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Gore to unseat Barlow at RB/Dorsey to start? (1 Viewer)

Kit Fisto,

I don't remember exactly what injuries Robert Edwards sufferred. I remember folks saying he'd struggle to walk normally never mind playing. When he played folks seemed to think of it more as a medical marvel or enormous progress in reconstructive surgery...it was a big deal that he could play.

I don't know much about Gore but I'll take a wild guess Edwards and his injury aren't a fair comparison.
The 2 injuries had very little in common as far as severity. I was content to let him continue to think that way though.
 
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He will get injured and Alex Smith will get some playing time.
Disagree.Smith will not play until he is ready. Rattay's inevitable injury, or lack of performance, will not get Smith on the field any faster--thats what Dorsey is around for.

 
He will get injured and Alex Smith will get some playing time. 
Disagree.Smith will not play until he is ready. Rattay's inevitable injury, or lack of performance, will not get Smith on the field any faster--thats what Dorsey is around for.
I don't agree. Smith will play this year. He will make some starts unless Rattay stays healthy for 16 games. This owner is a miser. Putting Smith in the game will sell jerseys. I don't think the owner has the patience to let the kid ride the pine and hold a clip board. This kid will see the field in 2005....
 
He will get injured and Alex Smith will get some playing time.  
Disagree.Smith will not play until he is ready. Rattay's inevitable injury, or lack of performance, will not get Smith on the field any faster--thats what Dorsey is around for.
I don't agree. Smith will play this year. He will make some starts unless Rattay stays healthy for 16 games. This owner is a miser. Putting Smith in the game will sell jerseys. I don't think the owner has the patience to let the kid ride the pine and hold a clip board. This kid will see the field in 2005....
This owner you refer to as a miser has turned a complete 180 degrees this offseason. This owner you refer to as a miser spent $12M to get rid of Donohue and Erickson.This miser overpaid for a decent LT.

This miser has also been the anti-Snyder, letting Nolan run the show the way he wants to.

What evidence makes you think York will have ANY input whatsoever in when Smith plays? :rolleyes: :no:

All the decisions this offseason have been Nolan's, and Nolan says Smith will play when he is ready--whether that is Week 4 or Week 17.

 
We never got to see Gore at his full potential where we did with McGahee. Nobody outside the UM can really make an accurate analysis of these 2 guys as far as talent is concerned IMO. You can specualte all you want as to weather or not you think he will gain his talent and ability back. However, very few people have seen him at full speed which we may get to see for the 1st time this year.
Not saying I know the answer, but how many RBs can we name who were not particularly successful in college yet became successful in the NFL?I think there have been guys who split time or even backed up other NFL-caliber backs in college and thus didn't get to fully show their talents on the field. But in Gore's case, he was the starter all of last year and was unimpressive. Any similar examples who later became great NFL backs?

 
"Pounding the ball" with a guy that's 5'9" and 208lbs with bad knees is going to be a daunting task. The only thing that is going to be pounded this year in San Fran is their franchise.
Sounds like a job more suited to 235lb. Barlow...
 
He will get injured and Alex Smith will get some playing time.  
Disagree.Smith will not play until he is ready. Rattay's inevitable injury, or lack of performance, will not get Smith on the field any faster--thats what Dorsey is around for.
I don't agree. Smith will play this year. He will make some starts unless Rattay stays healthy for 16 games. This owner is a miser. Putting Smith in the game will sell jerseys. I don't think the owner has the patience to let the kid ride the pine and hold a clip board. This kid will see the field in 2005....
:goodposting:
 
People seem to think that Miami is incapable of putting out pedestrian running backs.
No, people seem to find it hard to believe that Gore was good enough to keep such great RBs like Portis and McGahee off the field because they never saw him at full speed. There is a HUGE difference here. Just becasue you haven't seen it doesn't make it untrue.
Hey Jurb...that's fine to say but again, you can't convince me that ANY runner with Gore's career injury history and on-field achievements would get this much attention if he didn't a) play for the U and b) come after James, Portis and McGahee have had tremendous NFL success.
Of course not, but when did I say otherwise. Do you think that all the talking heads in Mia are lying too us about his ability or something? This is the RB they prefered to have running the ball OVER Porits and McGahee! Do I have to agree with that, no. It certainly speaks very highly of this kids potential though. Even if Mia was wrong about it.... its not like he could be much worse than the other 2 guys and the other 2 have proved to be 2 of the BEST RBs in the NFL. If you want to question his recovery to regain his ability, that is fine. I don't however see how anyone here on this board is more qualified to speak about his raw talent than the people who saw it 1st hand and evalutated it at Mia. So if your asking who has more credit IMO on this topic.... I'll take the Mia coaches over message board members in a heartbeat.
Wasn't he starting in front of those guys BEFORE his injuries? :unsure:
 
People seem to think that Miami is incapable of putting out pedestrian running backs.
No, people seem to find it hard to believe that Gore was good enough to keep such great RBs like Portis and McGahee off the field because they never saw him at full speed. There is a HUGE difference here. Just becasue you haven't seen it doesn't make it untrue.
Hey Jurb...that's fine to say but again, you can't convince me that ANY runner with Gore's career injury history and on-field achievements would get this much attention if he didn't a) play for the U and b) come after James, Portis and McGahee have had tremendous NFL success.
Of course not, but when did I say otherwise. Do you think that all the talking heads in Mia are lying too us about his ability or something? This is the RB they prefered to have running the ball OVER Porits and McGahee! Do I have to agree with that, no. It certainly speaks very highly of this kids potential though. Even if Mia was wrong about it.... its not like he could be much worse than the other 2 guys and the other 2 have proved to be 2 of the BEST RBs in the NFL. If you want to question his recovery to regain his ability, that is fine. I don't however see how anyone here on this board is more qualified to speak about his raw talent than the people who saw it 1st hand and evalutated it at Mia. So if your asking who has more credit IMO on this topic.... I'll take the Mia coaches over message board members in a heartbeat.
Wasn't he starting in front of those guys BEFORE his injuries? :unsure:
:yes: Exactly...actually, he was ahead of them on the depth chart, which makes sense since he was older...whether, if healthy, he would've earned the starting job over Portis or McGahee is something we'll never really know.
 
Here are some quick observations after viewing last weekend's 49ers minicamp:

- Frank Gore will unseat Kevan Barlow as the starting halfback. Gore looked lean and explosive during the practice sessions. His college career was slowed by two knee surgeries, but he has made a remarkable recovery. Barlow will need his "A" game this summer to keep his starting job.

- Coach Mike Nolan wants to establish a punishing running game. He drafted two physical run-blocking linemen in David Baas and Adam Snyder, a 280-pound blocking tight end in Patrick Estes and signed 270-pound fullback Tony Ficklin of San Jose State after the draft. Center Jeremy Newberry said, "We're going to have a different mentality, pounding the football."

- The 49ers will be one of the most improved teams in the NFL simply because Nolan and his assistants are a real NFL-caliber staff. The Dennis Erickson/Terry Donahue regime was a joke, and this year will prove that fact.

- Ken Dorsey will win the starting quarterback job. Alex Smith is the future of this franchise, but Dorsey is primed and ready for a breakout performance in his third season.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/articles/2005/05...13_sp03_rap.txt

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Some quick observations:1. I took an initial pause after reading the Gore/Barlow item (as a Barlow owner in one of my main dynasty leagues), but after reading the "Most Improved Teams in the NFL" and "Ken Dorsey will win the starting QB job" comments, I simply write this thread/post and the SF writer off as someone who is either :banned: or had a dynasty draft that was coming up a day or two following the thread's creation.... :rolleyes:

2. Related to Barlow, I think 2005 will witness as much "anti-hype" as he had "hype" in 2004. Neither his 2004 hype or 2005's playah hate-ah comments are accurate, as the truth more than likely lies somewhere in between those two extremes. My selfish hope is that Barlow is motivated by Gore to live up to his potential....but that "potential" is not-nearly as high as many folks might have believed prior to last season.

You gotta love all the hype and conjecture that floats around FFL circles between the NFL draft and Training Camp! Is it July yet?!

 
Comparing Frank Gore to Willis McGahee is ridiculous. Frank Gore is garbage.
I want to clarify my point....McGahee ONLY had one bad wheel, and is built a lot more soundly for an NFL every down RB.

Gore is smaller than most, and while speedy, does have 2 repaired knees. So my original point was that comparing their situations isn't really smart. Barlow doesn't have Travis Henry's injury woes, and they have a lot of money tied up in Barlow. I think they'll give him the opportunity to keep the RB job.

 
I don't agree. Smith will play this year. He will make some starts unless Rattay stays healthy for 16 games. This owner is a miser. Putting Smith in the game will sell jerseys. I don't think the owner has the patience to let the kid ride the pine and hold a clip board. This kid will see the field in 2005....
Doesn't the NFL share all revenue generated from jersey sales? I'm not sure how much of a miser the owner is, but more Smith jerseys won't really help him.
 
He didn't view anything...Larry Krueger did. Look at the link in his original post.

BTW, Krueger is an idiot and I wouldn't put too much stock in anything he "observes." He has a local radio show here in the Bay Area, writes a couple columns a week for the Examiner, and generally doesn't know much.
:goodposting: Krueger :bag:

Tim Rattay will start the season. When he inevitably gets hurt, Dorsey will get another chance to showcase his peashooter and remind 49er faithful of the Steve Stenstrom era.

Alex Smith will start when he is ready.
Agreed. Rattay will be the starter. If healthy he will be the starter all season. Question is for year one is Smith the 2nd or the clipboard holder? Farther down the road we'll see how Rattay does and if he can hold off Smith. Rattay has good skills and should not be lightly dismissed.

 
:yes: Exactly...actually, he was ahead of them on the depth chart, which makes sense since he was older...whether, if healthy, he would've earned the starting job over Portis or McGahee is something we'll never really know.
Come on Jason even Willis' profile shows that Gore was the starter untill he got hurt...http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/mcgahee_willis

Prospect Profiles

Willis McGahee

Position: Running Back

College: Miami (Fla.)

Height: 6-0

Weight: 223

Hometown: Miami, Fla.

Career Notes | Agility | High School | Personal | Stats

ANALYSIS

Positives: Has good upper-body muscle development … More quick than fast, but can make cuts at the holes and has the hip swerve needed to avoid defenders slashing through traffic … Instinctive runner who sets up and uses his blocks well … Very creative and strong inside runner who plays at a low pad level, carrying defenders on contact and breaking arm tackles consistently … Has an above-average short burst to cut back or bounce outside and the acceleration to run away from defenders … Will usually improvise and create when the hole is clogged … Shows good ball security and will cut sharply while finding a way to get open on pass routes.

Negatives: Not asked to block and needs work on his technique, as he will overextend and lunge when trying to cut-block in pass protection … Can set up a defender, but seems to struggle a bit running in space … Used mainly on flares and screens and needs some pass-route refinement, but his hands appear natural.

CAREER NOTES

Scheduled to play behind Frank Gore in 2002, the third-year sophomore seized his opportunity to shine when Gore was injured prior to the season opener … Went on to establish himself as one of the most electrifying scoring machines in the history of college football … Gained 2,067 yards on 349 carries (5.9 avg.) with 31 touchdowns, caught 25 passes for 355 yards (13.1 avg.) and had a 35-yard kickoff return in only 21 games for the Hurricanes … His 2,067 yards on the ground and 31 scores rank fifth on the school's all-time record lists … His 186 points scored rank sixth in Hurricane annals.

2002 SEASON

Consensus All-America and All-Big East Conference first-team selection … Finalist for the Heisman Trophy, given to the nation's top player, finishing fourth in the voting (660 points) … Shattered school season records, carrying 282 times for 1,753 yards (6.2 avg.) and 28 touchdowns, breaking the previous marks of 1,416 yards and 17 scores by Edgerrin James in 1998 … Only Nebraska's Mike Rozier (29 in 1983) and Oklahoma State's Barry Sanders (37 in 1988) ran for more touchdowns in a season in NCAA Division I-A annals … His 10 100-yard performances broke the old Hurricanes season record of eight, set by Ottis Anderson in 1978 … Added 350 yards on 24 receptions (14.6 avg.) … Gained 2,108 all-purpose yards, breaking the old Miami season record of 1,708 by Anderson in 1978.

Florida A&M - Rushed 6 times for 60 yards and a 19-yard score.

Florida - Exploded for 204 yards on 24 attempts, joining Lorenzo Roan (249 vs. East Carolina in 1980) and Edgerrin James (271 vs. Boston College in 1977 and 299 vs. UCLA in 1998) as the only players in school history to rush for over 200 yards in a game.

Tennessee - Carried 21 times for 134 yards with scores of 1, 6, 1 and 4 yards, adding 33 yards on 3 catches.

Boston College - Followed with 17 attempts for 135 yards and a pair of touchdowns and made 3 catches for 86 yards.

Connecticut - Rushed 11 times for 107 yards, including a pair of 15-yard touchdowns and an 11-yard touchdown … Also snared a pair of passes for 10 yards.

Florida State - Gained 95 yards on 26 tries with a 4-yard score and 78 yards on 3 catches.

West Virginia - Had his only two turnovers of the season (fumbled twice), but made up for by rushing 31 times for 112 yards with a pair of 1-yard touchdowns and a and 2-yard score … Caught 2 passes for 71 yards.

Rutgers - Followed with 23 attempts for 187 yards and 2 touchdowns, gaining 13 yards on a pair of grabs.

Tennessee - Collected 154 yards with a 1-yard score on 20 carries and 17 yards on 2 catches.

Pittsburgh - Rushed 19 times for 159 yards, including 7- and 69-yard touchdowns and made 4 catches for 11 yards.

Syracuse - Amassed 134 yards on 14 tries with touchdowns of 61 and 51 yards.

Virginia Tech - Closed out the regular season in record-shattering fashion, becoming the first player in school history to rush for over 200 yards twice in the same season (joined Edgerrin James as the only players in Miami annals to run for over 200 yards twice in a career), as he totaled 205 yards on 39 carries with scores of 1, 4, 3, 10, 1 and 31 yards … His 6 touchdowns broke the old school record of 5 in a game, set by Bill L'Italien vs. Piedmont in 1933 … Only Illinois' Howard Griffith (8 vs. Southern Illinois, 1990) and Mississippi's Showboat Boykin (7 vs. Mississippi State, 1951) rushed for more touchdowns in a game in NCAA Division I-A history … Also snatched 2 passes for 21 yards.

Ohio State (Fiesta Bowl) - Held to 67 yards and a score on 20 carries, leaving the game after tearing his medial collateral and anterior cruciate ligaments (also damaged his posterior cruciate ligament) in his left knee … Underwent reconstructive surgery immediately after the game.

2001 SEASON

Reserve tailback, seeing action in eight games … Finished with 67 carries for 314 yards (4.7 avg.) and 3 touchdowns … Did not catch any passes, but added 35 yards on a kickoff return.

2000 SEASON

Redshirted as a freshman.

INJURY REPORT

Missed the Temple and Boston College games in 2002 after suffering a knee sprain vs. West Virginia (Oct. 25, 2001) … Tore his medial collateral and anterior cruciate ligaments (also damaged his posterior cruciate ligament) in his left knee vs. Ohio State in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl … Underwent reconstructive surgery immediately after the game.

CAMPUS AGILITY TESTS

4.24 in the 40-yard dash … 3.69 in the 20-yard shuttle … 41-inch vertical jump … 10-foot-11 broad jump … 375-pound bench press.

COMBINE AGILITY TESTS

ARM HAND TEST 40 20 10 225 VJ BJ SHUTTLE CONE

30 9¼ 12

HIGH SCHOOL

Regarded as one of the top running backs in the nation and the best in Florida, as he was listed as the sixth-best running back on PrepStar's 1999 Top 100 Dream Team and the 10th-best overall prospect in the Southeast Region, adding SuperPrep All-America honors as a senior at Central (Miami, Fla.) High … Rated the fifth-best running back nationally 11-best overall prospect in Florida by SuperPrep … USA Today honorable mention All-American … Named to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Super Southern 100, Dallas Morning News National Top 100 and listed as one of the South's top players by recruiting analyst Bill Buchalter of the Orlando Sentinel … Named the best tailback in Florida on the Florida Times-Union Super 75 list … Miami Herald Class 6A-5A All-Dade selection … Listed among the top I-backs nationally by recruiting analyst Max Emfinger … Played just five games during his senior season due to a knee injury … In those five games, rushed for 677 yards and scored 11 touchdowns on 77 carries … Averaged more than 8 yards per carry as a junior … Played for Team Florida in the 2000 Florida/Georgia All-Star Game … Coached by Tim Harris.

PERSONAL

Criminology major … Son of Jannie Jones and Willis McGahee … Born Willis Andrew McGahee on Oct. 21, 1981 … Resides in Miami, Fla.
As for your point about their ages, I don't know what your talknig about? JGore was the last one to reach the UM campus, yet was still listed as the STARTER.Portis came to UM in 1999

McGahee in 2000

Gore in 2001

 
We never got to see Gore at his full potential where we did with McGahee.  Nobody outside the UM can really make an accurate analysis of these 2 guys as far as talent is concerned IMO.  You can specualte all you want as to weather or not you think he will gain his talent and ability back.  However, very few people have seen him at full speed which we may get to see for the 1st time this year.
Not saying I know the answer, but how many RBs can we name who were not particularly successful in college yet became successful in the NFL?I think there have been guys who split time or even backed up other NFL-caliber backs in college and thus didn't get to fully show their talents on the field. But in Gore's case, he was the starter all of last year and was unimpressive. Any similar examples who later became great NFL backs?
Was Edge impressive in his 1st year back? How about Lewis or McGahee? I think not or at least not what they should have been. Why should Gore be expected to be 100% in his 1st go around when it is rather clear that this injury takes longer than that to heal properly? Another key point that people seem to be ignoring is that Gore played 20 lbs over weight last year! Thats a lot of extra weight to be carrying around on a knee that is not 100% and for a RB that is known for explosivness and speed. That extra weight has been lost now. This is a clear indication that he is improving IMO.
 
I don't mind the Frank Gore hype and respect his determination to come back from all the knee injuries and potentially be a star in the NFL. But please no Ken Dorsey hype. He is not an NFL caliber starting QB. He's not even Ty Detmer caliber. He seriously does not have what it takes, as his arm strength, velocity, and accuracy is so lacking that he would not even be successful with a short passing WCO team. So please do not hype Ken Dorsey. He sucks. Thank you that is all....

 
How does Gore’s injury compare to those of Terry Allen?It one injury to each knee or is it two injuries to the same knee?

 
We never got to see Gore at his full potential where we did with McGahee. Nobody outside the UM can really make an accurate analysis of these 2 guys as far as talent is concerned IMO. You can specualte all you want as to weather or not you think he will gain his talent and ability back. However, very few people have seen him at full speed which we may get to see for the 1st time this year.
Not saying I know the answer, but how many RBs can we name who were not particularly successful in college yet became successful in the NFL?I think there have been guys who split time or even backed up other NFL-caliber backs in college and thus didn't get to fully show their talents on the field. But in Gore's case, he was the starter all of last year and was unimpressive. Any similar examples who later became great NFL backs?
Was Edge impressive in his 1st year back? How about Lewis or McGahee? I think not or at least not what they should have been. Why should Gore be expected to be 100% in his 1st go around when it is rather clear that this injury takes longer than that to heal properly? Another key point that people seem to be ignoring is that Gore played 20 lbs over weight last year! Thats a lot of extra weight to be carrying around on a knee that is not 100% and for a RB that is known for explosivness and speed. That extra weight has been lost now. This is a clear indication that he is improving IMO.
Ok, so we have a guy who keeps blowing out his knees, can't spell cat if you spot him "c & a ", and has a weight problem. He used to be a phenomenal speedster, supposedly beating both Portis and McGahee in a race, but now runs 4.65 in the 40.I agree that he should improve in time, and maybe he'll become the RB everyone thought he was, but based on what I'm seeing right now it seems that people are overrating his chances.

Sure, I'd still stash him away in a dynasty league if I had the chance. But he went before my pick.

 
I don't mind the Frank Gore hype and respect his determination to come back from all the knee injuries and potentially be a star in the NFL.

But please no Ken Dorsey hype. He is not an NFL caliber starting QB. He's not even Ty Detmer caliber. He seriously does not have what it takes, as his arm strength, velocity, and accuracy is so lacking that he would not even be successful with a short passing WCO team.

So please do not hype Ken Dorsey. He sucks. Thank you that is all....
Let's play devil's advocate here for a second.Dorsey DID throw 191/3/0 to lead the 49ers over the Cardinals last year. Arizona was top ten in passing yards allowed and passing TDs allowed. Here's a quote from that game:

Dorsey threw for the first three touchdowns of his two-year NFL career, two of them to Cedrick Wilson. The biggest play of that drive, though, came on third-and-17 from the San Francisco 44, when Dorsey threw 19 yards to Wilson. "Ken, boy, fires that thing in there," Wilson said. "That's the best play that we've made in a long time."

Player X: 226 attempts, 54.4% completion rate, 1,231 yards, 5.4 Y/A; 6 TD/9 INT

Player Y: 197 attempts, 48.2% completion rate, 1,043 yards, 5.3 Y/A; 6 TD/9 INT

Pretty similar stat lines eh? And both were rookies last year.

Player X was Ken Dorsey. Player Y was Eli Manning.

 
How does Gore’s injury compare to those of Terry Allen?

It one injury to each knee or is it two injuries to the same knee?
Both knees have had the injury:http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/gore_frank

Prospect Profiles

Frank Gore

Position: Running Back

College: Miami (Fla.)

Height: 5-9 3/8

Weight: 217

Hometown: Coral Gables, Fla.

Analysis | Injury Report | Agility | High School | Personal

OVERVIEW

The star running back twice returned from reconstructive knee surgery and was still considered among the top backs in the nation. Gore suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee in 2001 and redshirted in 2002. He returned and rushed for 100 yards in each of his first three games of the 2003 season, then tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee in the season's fifth game. Determined to continue his career, Gore returned again in 2004 to rush for nearly 1,000 yards.

Gore is a breakaway threat who is also a tough inside runner, often knocking back tacklers on his way to the end zone.

Gore was one of the nation's most heavily recruited and highly regarded running backs coming out of Coral Gables High School. He set a Dade County record for rushing yardage in a season in 2000 with 2,953 yards and 34 touchdowns in his senior year. He rushed for 1,559 yards and 28 touchdowns in 1999, in addition to 301 receiving yards and four more scores through the air.

Gore showed outstanding strength and peripheral vision throughout his high school career. He was the third-rated prospect in Dade County by the Miami Herald, as well as the fourth best in Florida. Gore was listed as the best tailback on the Florida Times-Union Super 75 list and earned SuperPrep All-American. That publication also rated him the seventh best prospect overall and the top-rated running back in Florida.

As a true freshman for Miami in 2001, he totaled 562 yards with five touchdowns on 62 carries (9.1-yard avg.), the third-best season total in school history by a freshman. He spent the 2002 season recovering from knee surgery and then started the first five games of the 2003 campaign. Gore rushed 89 times for 468 yards (5.3 avg.) and four scores, adding 105 yards on 12 receptions. He tore his right knee ligament in the first half of the West Virginia game and spent the rest of the year on the sidelines.

Back on the field for the 2004 season, Gore looked to change his luck and also changed his uniform number, discarding No. 32 for No. 3. He started 11 of 12 games, lining up at tailback for 10 contests and at fullback vs. Clemson. He led the team with 945 yards and eight touchdowns on 197 carries (4.8 avg.). He also snared 10 passes for 106 yards (10.6 avg.).

In 28 games with the Hurricanes, Gore rushed 348 times for 1,975 yards (5.7 avg.) and 17 touchdowns. His 1,975 yards rank seventh on the school's career-record list and his 17 scores are tied for 10th. He also caught 23 passes for 225 yards (9.8 avg.), returned two kickoffs for 48 yards and recorded five tackles on special teams. Gore fumbled seven times, with five being recovered by the opposition. He lost 89 yards on his 348 rushing attempts.

ANALYSIS

Positives Has An adequate frame with solid upper body development, tight waist, good bubble and thick hamstrings … Tough inside runner who finds a way to move the pile to get the yardage up the middle … Can slip through the line to break tackles while maintaining balance … Shows the lower-body strength to break tackles and fight for extra yardage … Plays with good balance and body control after initial contact … Sees the holes develop and can gain the tough yardage when the lanes are clogged by using his leg drive … Has some burst to the outside and the shows the ability to work back for the ball … Will play hurt … Has minimum wiggle in his run, but is effective eluding defenders due to his leg strength, as he can be slippery … Shows good acceleration during the first five yards on his run.

Negatives More effective when used to move the chains rather than go for the big gainer, as he does not have the speed to bounce outside, lacking the burst to consistently reach the edge … Willing blocker, but his hits pack little power and he frequently lunges at the ankles of defenders, making him of little use vs. the blitz … Has to line up tighter to the line in order to gain advantage, as he does not show explosion coming out of his stance … Not used much as a receiver, as he has stiff hands and will either cradle the ball or double catch … Rounds his cuts and fails to defeat the press when lining up in the slot in short passing situations … Has the lower-body strength to break tackles, but does not protect himself well vs. leg tackles … Very low intelligence test score (6) brings concerns about his ability to digest a complicated playbook.

INJURY REPORT

2002 -- Redshirted after undergoing reconstructive surgery to repair a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee.

2003 -- Suffered a torn right knee anterior cruciate ligament vs. West Virginia (Oct. 2) and missed the rest of the season to undergo reconstructive surgery.

2004 -- Left the Houston contest (Sept. 23) in the first quarter when tendonitis in his right knee flared up.

AGILITY

4.66 in the 40-yard dash … 4.13 20-yard shuttle … 11.33 60-yard shuttle … 6.95 three-cone drill … 32-inch vertical jump … 9-foot-1broad jump … Bench pressed 225 pounds 15 times.

HIGH SCHOOL

Attended Coral Gables (Fla.) High School, playing football for coach Joe Montoya … Was one of the nation's most heavily recruited and highly regarded running backs … Set a Dade County record for rushing yardage in a season in 2000 with 2,953 yards and 34 touchdowns in his senior year … Rushed for 1,559 yards and 28 touchdowns in 1999, in addition to 301 receiving yards and four more scores through the air … Showed outstanding strength and peripheral vision throughout his high school career … Third-rated prospect in Dade County by the Miami Herald, as well as the fourth-best in Florida … Listed as the best tailback on the Florida Times-Union Super 75 list and earned SuperPrep All-American … That publication also rated him the seventh-best prospect overall and the top-rated running back in Florida.

PERSONAL

Business Management and Organization major … Son of Lizzie Gore … Born May 14, 1983 … Resides in Coral Gables, Fla.
 
We never got to see Gore at his full potential where we did with McGahee.  Nobody outside the UM can really make an accurate analysis of these 2 guys as far as talent is concerned IMO.  You can specualte all you want as to weather or not you think he will gain his talent and ability back.  However, very few people have seen him at full speed which we may get to see for the 1st time this year.
Not saying I know the answer, but how many RBs can we name who were not particularly successful in college yet became successful in the NFL?I think there have been guys who split time or even backed up other NFL-caliber backs in college and thus didn't get to fully show their talents on the field. But in Gore's case, he was the starter all of last year and was unimpressive. Any similar examples who later became great NFL backs?
Was Edge impressive in his 1st year back? How about Lewis or McGahee? I think not or at least not what they should have been. Why should Gore be expected to be 100% in his 1st go around when it is rather clear that this injury takes longer than that to heal properly? Another key point that people seem to be ignoring is that Gore played 20 lbs over weight last year! Thats a lot of extra weight to be carrying around on a knee that is not 100% and for a RB that is known for explosivness and speed. That extra weight has been lost now. This is a clear indication that he is improving IMO.
6...out...of...50... :shock: His knee may be fine but he'll always be a liability on the field because of his learning problems.

 
Another key point that people seem to be ignoring is that Gore played 20 lbs over weight last year! Thats a lot of extra weight to be carrying around on a knee that is not 100% and for a RB that is known for explosivness and speed. That extra weight has been lost now. This is a clear indication that he is improving IMO.
So in other words, Gore lacked the work ethic to maintain his weight during rehab and the college season thus playing overweight. Now that he's lost the weight he's well on his way to becoming a smaller change of pace RB weighing in at 208 lbs. when the Head Coach wants to turn the running game into a power running game and Barlow weighs in at 230+ lbs. You do the math.
 
Ok, so we have a guy who keeps blowing out his knees, can't spell cat if you spot him "c & a ", and has a weight problem. He used to be a phenomenal speedster, supposedly beating both Portis and McGahee in a race, but now runs 4.65 in the 40.

I agree that he should improve in time, and maybe he'll become the RB everyone thought he was, but based on what I'm seeing right now it seems that people are overrating his chances.

Sure, I'd still stash him away in a dynasty league if I had the chance. But he went before my pick.
So you don't find it at all possible that the knee injury is what led to the weight problem in the 1st place? I know I do. Not being able to run and do things normally he could do prior to the injury while rehabing it. This lost weight seems to be a VERY GOOD sign IMO. It at least shows he is capable of the conditioning that he was doing when he was healthy, or near it. Though that does not mean he is 100% jback to his ability on the field. I will be watching this guy very closly and I suggest anyone who owns Barlow does as well.
 
:yes: Exactly...actually, he was ahead of them on the depth chart, which makes sense since he was older...whether, if healthy, he would've earned the starting job over Portis or McGahee is something we'll never really know.
I'm amazed at how people on this board are offering their opinions on something they have very little knowledge about and that is UM football. Portis and McGahee are BOTH older than Gore, I don't know where you got that Gore was older. And Gore WAS the 1st RB on the depth chart after Portis came out to the NFL ahead of Willis McGahee. Gore was Portis' backup as a true freshman, the starting job was never up for grabs that season. UM was even considering moving McGahee to FB because of how great Gore was and the depth they had at RB.
 
Bottom line, several Scouts and GMs liked Gore's chances and they were not overly concerned about his knees.LOL at all of the physical therapists in this thread. :lmao:

 
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:yes: Exactly...actually, he was ahead of them on the depth chart, which makes sense since he was older...whether, if healthy, he would've earned the starting job over Portis or McGahee is something we'll never really know.
I'm amazed at how people on this board are offering their opinions on something they have very little knowledge about and that is UM football. Portis and McGahee are BOTH older than Gore, I don't know where you got that Gore was older. And Gore WAS the 1st RB on the depth chart after Portis came out to the NFL ahead of Willis McGahee. Gore was Portis' backup as a true freshman, the starting job was never up for grabs that season. UM was even considering moving McGahee to FB because of how great Gore was and the depth they had at RB.
We may as well give it up... they will believe what they want to believe. :wall:
 
:yes: Exactly...actually, he was ahead of them on the depth chart, which makes sense since he was older...whether, if healthy, he would've earned the starting job over Portis or McGahee is something we'll never really know.
I'm amazed at how people on this board are offering their opinions on something they have very little knowledge about and that is UM football. Portis and McGahee are BOTH older than Gore, I don't know where you got that Gore was older. And Gore WAS the 1st RB on the depth chart after Portis came out to the NFL ahead of Willis McGahee. Gore was Portis' backup as a true freshman, the starting job was never up for grabs that season. UM was even considering moving McGahee to FB because of how great Gore was and the depth they had at RB.
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Bottom line, several Scouts and GMs liked Gore's chances and they were not overly concerned about his knees.

LOL at all of the physical therapists in this thread. :lmao:
LoL @ this coming from the guy who can't shut up about Chris Browns health.
 
Bottom line, several Scouts and GMs liked Gore's chances and they were not overly concerned about his knees.

LOL at all of the physical therapists in this thread. :lmao:
LoL @ this coming from the guy who can't shut up about Chris Browns health.
:rolleyes: at "can't shutup"Simmer down Mr. Barlow owner.

...and the difference between Chris Brown and Frank Gore is that Brown was/is getting drafted in the second round ;)

Further, there is a difference between assessing a player's risk and giving medical evaluations on a runningback's knees.

 
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We never got to see Gore at his full potential where we did with McGahee.  Nobody outside the UM can really make an accurate analysis of these 2 guys as far as talent is concerned IMO.  You can specualte all you want as to weather or not you think he will gain his talent and ability back.  However, very few people have seen him at full speed which we may get to see for the 1st time this year.
Not saying I know the answer, but how many RBs can we name who were not particularly successful in college yet became successful in the NFL?I think there have been guys who split time or even backed up other NFL-caliber backs in college and thus didn't get to fully show their talents on the field. But in Gore's case, he was the starter all of last year and was unimpressive. Any similar examples who later became great NFL backs?
Was Edge impressive in his 1st year back? How about Lewis or McGahee? I think not or at least not what they should have been. Why should Gore be expected to be 100% in his 1st go around when it is rather clear that this injury takes longer than that to heal properly? Another key point that people seem to be ignoring is that Gore played 20 lbs over weight last year! Thats a lot of extra weight to be carrying around on a knee that is not 100% and for a RB that is known for explosivness and speed. That extra weight has been lost now. This is a clear indication that he is improving IMO.
I'm not sure if you interpreted my question as I intended it.Edge is not a valid example, since he was both a college and NFL star before getting injured and subsequently coming back from that injury.

I don't know as much about Lewis, but I believe he was also a college star first... but maybe star is overstating it?

My point was, Gore was never a college star, despite the fact that he was the unquestioned starter in his final year at RB in college. Yet many here are suggesting that he will be at least a quality NFL starting RB. I'm just looking for examples of players who accomplished that same progression in the past.

 
I'm not sure if you interpreted my question as I intended it.

Edge is not a valid example, since he was both a college and NFL star before getting injured and subsequently coming back from that injury.

I don't know as much about Lewis, but I believe he was also a college star first... but maybe star is overstating it?

My point was, Gore was never a college star, despite the fact that he was the unquestioned starter in his final year at RB in college. Yet many here are suggesting that he will be at least a quality NFL starting RB. I'm just looking for examples of players who accomplished that same progression in the past.
Ahh, sorry about the confusion. With out thinking too much, 2 that come to mind easily are Holmes and DD. I'm sure there are more though.
 
Jurb26 must be either Gore's agent or his brother because he sure devotes the greater part of his day defending the ##### bag.

 
I see Barlow getting the majority of the carries early in the year and then Gore sharing the load as the year goes on.  Not exactly the quality or production of the Hearst/Barlow tandem, but I do see Nolan running more than throwing this year and both back by years end being decent bye week options.

:)
:goodposting: I agree. For better or worse, while they are in rebuilding mode, I think SF is going to try to run, run, run. Getting the running game in order will only help with Rattay's health, Doresey's ability to fill-in, and Smith's overall development. It also will allow their young and raw receivers a chance to get open and further their development.

Thus, I don't see Barlow or Gore becoming dominant this season. Because there will be so many carries to go around, there may be anywhere from a 60/40 or 75/25 split with Barlow getting the majority of carries. However, this should give Gore enough carries to give Gore owners hope. If the 49ers like what they see from Gore, then they can dump Barlow. If they don't, then Gore will be a backup for a long time.

Thus, I don't it as a question of whether Gore gets a healthy number of carries. I think it's a question of what the 49ers think of him after he gets those carries. The Gore lovers obviously think he will succeed in that situation. The Gore haters obviously think he is poised for failure.

Personally, I have not decided how I think he'll do. But, I do think he'll get some carries this year.

 
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Jurb26 must be either Gore's agent or his brother because he sure devotes the greater part of his day defending the ##### bag.
To personally insult Gore so badly, you must know him intimately.... hidding something from us Slash? :unsure:
 
Jurb26 must be either Gore's agent or his brother because he sure devotes the greater part of his day defending the ##### bag.
To personally insult Gore so badly, you must know him intimately.... hidding something from us Slash? :unsure:
:lmao: Dammit Slash, Gore said it was just a one night thing!

 
Let's see... Gore didn't do as well in Florida as was expected. But, he'll succeed in California and hope to unseat the incumbent.Which Gore are we talking about here anyway? :P

 
Let's see... Gore didn't do as well in Florida as was expected. But, he'll succeed in California and hope to unseat the incumbent.

Which Gore are we talking about here anyway? :P
The other Gore, the one that 'invented' the internet, did not actually run against the incumbent :bag: :brush: ;)
 
Both sides of this argument are being very shortsighted and not recognizing some very simple truths.

Those pointing to his senior stats and saying they weren't impressive seem to have no idea what they are looking at. He was 1 year removed from ACL surgery and nobody plays all world one year after ACL surgery.

While it is an extremely safe bet that he would have played better at Miami two years after his surgery, his ceiling was not able to be seen and could have been slightly higher or it could have been tremendously higher.
While Barlow has the size and talent and the big contract, the fact is that no matter how much you can blame of last year's performance on the supporting cast, he was outplayed for the majority of the year by an undrafted free agent in Maurice Hicks. While the starting job should be his to lose, he has certainly shown the capability of losing it so seeing him lose his job to a 3rd round pick isn't exactly that crazy of a prediction.
He undoubtedly was seen as having top notch talent and was ahead of McGahee and Portis on the depth chart his Sophomore year. You can point to the fact that he was a "high school" talent that was only at the top of the depth chart on paper and for the time being but keep in mind that all three guys had been on the team and seen playing time and practice time the previous season and the coaches had been able to take the time to evaluate them before placing him at the top of the depth chart. It wasn't like he was a hot freshman recruit that was slated to start. He'd been in the system a year and so had the other two.You can take a look at these things and you can declare him the next McGahee or you can declare him the next bust, but the fact remains that neither side has enough evidence to declare themselves to be the victor in this debate. ALL RB's IN THIS DRAFT CARRY RISK. Gore carries more risk than a lot of people feel comfortable with for an early rookie draft pick but to say he has no talent or to declare him to be a no brainer are both so obviously moronic it hurts to read it. People need to see this for what it is, a risk/reward type pick that could come back to burn you or it could work out phenomenally for you.

 
We never got to see Gore at his full potential where we did with McGahee.  Nobody outside the UM can really make an accurate analysis of these 2 guys as far as talent is concerned IMO.  You can specualte all you want as to weather or not you think he will gain his talent and ability back.  However, very few people have seen him at full speed which we may get to see for the 1st time this year.
Not saying I know the answer, but how many RBs can we name who were not particularly successful in college yet became successful in the NFL?I think there have been guys who split time or even backed up other NFL-caliber backs in college and thus didn't get to fully show their talents on the field. But in Gore's case, he was the starter all of last year and was unimpressive. Any similar examples who later became great NFL backs?
Was Edge impressive in his 1st year back? How about Lewis or McGahee? I think not or at least not what they should have been. Why should Gore be expected to be 100% in his 1st go around when it is rather clear that this injury takes longer than that to heal properly? Another key point that people seem to be ignoring is that Gore played 20 lbs over weight last year! Thats a lot of extra weight to be carrying around on a knee that is not 100% and for a RB that is known for explosivness and speed. That extra weight has been lost now. This is a clear indication that he is improving IMO.
6...out...of...50... :shock: His knee may be fine but he'll always be a liability on the field because of his learning problems.
Understanding which way to run or block is different process being able to take a test. Plenty of guys running around the NFL who made less than 10 or 12 on that test. Some of these guys would even be considered "intelligent football players"
 
Both sides of this argument are being very shortsighted and not recognizing some very simple truths.

Those pointing to his senior stats and saying they weren't impressive seem to have no idea what they are looking at. He was 1 year removed from ACL surgery and nobody plays all world one year after ACL surgery.

While it is an extremely safe bet that he would have played better at Miami two years after his surgery, his ceiling was not able to be seen and could have been slightly higher or it could have been tremendously higher.
While Barlow has the size and talent and the big contract, the fact is that no matter how much you can blame of last year's performance on the supporting cast, he was outplayed for the majority of the year by an undrafted free agent in Maurice Hicks. While the starting job should be his to lose, he has certainly shown the capability of losing it so seeing him lose his job to a 3rd round pick isn't exactly that crazy of a prediction.
He undoubtedly was seen as having top notch talent and was ahead of McGahee and Portis on the depth chart his Sophomore year. You can point to the fact that he was a "high school" talent that was only at the top of the depth chart on paper and for the time being but keep in mind that all three guys had been on the team and seen playing time and practice time the previous season and the coaches had been able to take the time to evaluate them before placing him at the top of the depth chart. It wasn't like he was a hot freshman recruit that was slated to start. He'd been in the system a year and so had the other two.You can take a look at these things and you can declare him the next McGahee or you can declare him the next bust, but the fact remains that neither side has enough evidence to declare themselves to be the victor in this debate. ALL RB's IN THIS DRAFT CARRY RISK. Gore carries more risk than a lot of people feel comfortable with for an early rookie draft pick but to say he has no talent or to declare him to be a no brainer are both so obviously moronic it hurts to read it. People need to see this for what it is, a risk/reward type pick that could come back to burn you or it could work out phenomenally for you.
:goodposting:
 
Yeah, um, thanks azcards. Your ability to copy and paste offers an unrivaled resource to the FBG community.Try acting like you respect your sources, rather than trying to pose as a scout next time. Just a thought.

 
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Both sides of this argument are being very shortsighted and not recognizing some very simple truths.

Those pointing to his senior stats and saying they weren't impressive seem to have no idea what they are looking at.  He was 1 year removed from ACL surgery and nobody plays all world one year after ACL surgery.

While it is an extremely safe bet that he would have played better at Miami two years after his surgery, his ceiling was not able to be seen and could have been slightly higher or it could have been tremendously higher.
While Barlow has the size and talent and the big contract, the fact is that no matter how much you can blame of last year's performance on the supporting cast, he was outplayed for the majority of the year by an undrafted free agent in Maurice Hicks.  While the starting job should be his to lose, he has certainly shown the capability of losing it so seeing him lose his job to a 3rd round pick isn't exactly that crazy of a prediction.
He undoubtedly was seen as having top notch talent and was ahead of McGahee and Portis on the depth chart his Sophomore year.  You can point to the fact that he was a "high school" talent that was only at the top of the depth chart on paper and for the time being but keep in mind that all three guys had been on the team and seen playing time and practice time the previous season and the coaches had been able to take the time to evaluate them before placing him at the top of the depth chart.  It wasn't like he was a hot freshman recruit that was slated to start.  He'd been in the system a year and so had the other two.You can take a look at these things and you can declare him the next McGahee or you can declare him the next bust, but the fact remains that neither side has enough evidence to declare themselves to be the victor in this debate.  ALL RB's IN THIS DRAFT CARRY RISK.  Gore carries more risk than a lot of people feel comfortable with for an early rookie draft pick but to say he has no talent or to declare him to be a no brainer are both so obviously moronic it hurts to read it.  People need to see this for what it is, a risk/reward type pick that could come back to burn you or it could work out phenomenally for you.
:goodposting:
:goodposting: x2that would pretty much end this thread...thank you, drive thru

 
Both sides of this argument are being very shortsighted and not recognizing some very simple truths.

Those pointing to his senior stats and saying they weren't impressive seem to have no idea what they are looking at. He was 1 year removed from ACL surgery and nobody plays all world one year after ACL surgery.

While it is an extremely safe bet that he would have played better at Miami two years after his surgery, his ceiling was not able to be seen and could have been slightly higher or it could have been tremendously higher.
While Barlow has the size and talent and the big contract, the fact is that no matter how much you can blame of last year's performance on the supporting cast, he was outplayed for the majority of the year by an undrafted free agent in Maurice Hicks. While the starting job should be his to lose, he has certainly shown the capability of losing it so seeing him lose his job to a 3rd round pick isn't exactly that crazy of a prediction.
He undoubtedly was seen as having top notch talent and was ahead of McGahee and Portis on the depth chart his Sophomore year. You can point to the fact that he was a "high school" talent that was only at the top of the depth chart on paper and for the time being but keep in mind that all three guys had been on the team and seen playing time and practice time the previous season and the coaches had been able to take the time to evaluate them before placing him at the top of the depth chart. It wasn't like he was a hot freshman recruit that was slated to start. He'd been in the system a year and so had the other two.You can take a look at these things and you can declare him the next McGahee or you can declare him the next bust, but the fact remains that neither side has enough evidence to declare themselves to be the victor in this debate. ALL RB's IN THIS DRAFT CARRY RISK. Gore carries more risk than a lot of people feel comfortable with for an early rookie draft pick but to say he has no talent or to declare him to be a no brainer are both so obviously moronic it hurts to read it. People need to see this for what it is, a risk/reward type pick that could come back to burn you or it could work out phenomenally for you.
You obviously do not understand this forum. You HAVE to pick a side, and once you do, slam the other side for how stupid they are. Do not waiver, do not be flexible, do not have an open mind. This can only be seen as weakness.
 
Both sides of this argument are being very shortsighted and not recognizing some very simple truths.

Those pointing to his senior stats and saying they weren't impressive seem to have no idea what they are looking at.  He was 1 year removed from ACL surgery and nobody plays all world one year after ACL surgery.

While it is an extremely safe bet that he would have played better at Miami two years after his surgery, his ceiling was not able to be seen and could have been slightly higher or it could have been tremendously higher.
While Barlow has the size and talent and the big contract, the fact is that no matter how much you can blame of last year's performance on the supporting cast, he was outplayed for the majority of the year by an undrafted free agent in Maurice Hicks.  While the starting job should be his to lose, he has certainly shown the capability of losing it so seeing him lose his job to a 3rd round pick isn't exactly that crazy of a prediction.
He undoubtedly was seen as having top notch talent and was ahead of McGahee and Portis on the depth chart his Sophomore year.  You can point to the fact that he was a "high school" talent that was only at the top of the depth chart on paper and for the time being but keep in mind that all three guys had been on the team and seen playing time and practice time the previous season and the coaches had been able to take the time to evaluate them before placing him at the top of the depth chart.  It wasn't like he was a hot freshman recruit that was slated to start.  He'd been in the system a year and so had the other two.You can take a look at these things and you can declare him the next McGahee or you can declare him the next bust, but the fact remains that neither side has enough evidence to declare themselves to be the victor in this debate.  ALL RB's IN THIS DRAFT CARRY RISK.  Gore carries more risk than a lot of people feel comfortable with for an early rookie draft pick but to say he has no talent or to declare him to be a no brainer are both so obviously moronic it hurts to read it.  People need to see this for what it is, a risk/reward type pick that could come back to burn you or it could work out phenomenally for you.
You obviously do not understand this forum. You HAVE to pick a side, and once you do, slam the other side for how stupid they are. Do not waiver, do not be flexible, do not have an open mind. This can only be seen as weakness.
LOL...while that might seem the case sometimes, it's really not.While I personally think it's downright illogical to suggest that Gore is anything more than a 50/50 shot at being a successful NFL RB (and don't think he graded out as a 1st day pick), it's entirely possible that he could buck his injury history and ultimately beat out Kevan Barlow for the job.

Here's what we know so far:

Barlow has been a disappointment
The team made a financial commitment to bring Barlow back for another shot at starting in 2005
Barlow, when focused, can be effective
Gore, before his injuries, was considered an elite tailback prospect
His injuries robbed him of the chance to prove (or disprove) that reputation on the field
The 49ers coaches saw enough of him, on film and in person, to think his injury history is something worth betting is surmountable
The 49ers won't hesitate to play whichever back is the more deserving
Next year, neither of these backs could be the 49ers starter...or one could be on their way to a 2nd consecutive 1,000 yard seasonI said after the draft that Barlow got about as lucky as he could've with the 49ers choice of Gore. Because of Gore's injury history and his lack of on-field production; it's IMHO a much easier leap of faith to think Barlow can outperform him and retain his job. It's by no means a foregone conclusion, far from it, but had any number of other collegiate backs been the 49ers choice, I would be far less sanguine about the situation. Had the Niners drafted: Benson, Brown, Williams, Arrington, Moats, Barber instead; I would already be penciling in the rookie ahead of Barlow on the depth chart.

My $0.02

 
Gore carries more risk than a lot of people feel comfortable with for an early rookie draft pick but to say he has no talent or to declare him to be a no brainer are both so obviously moronic it hurts to read it. People need to see this for what it is, a risk/reward type pick that could come back to burn you or it could work out phenomenally for you.
I have seen several people try to claim that Gore has no talent (which is why I feel the need to defend him).... but who has been saying he is a no brainer? I absolutly agree, Gore is a high risk/reward player that warrents watching. Thats not the point though. The point is that there is a good chance he eats into Barlow's numbers either way.
 
I look at it like this, Barlow almost lost his job to Hicks last year, so pretty much any RB they took in this draft has a decent shot at beating Barlow out for the starting job. Like Wood said though, there were at least a half dozen RB's that could have been taken that would have made things alot more bleak for Barlow. When it comes down to it though, the Niners staff felt like Gore was worth the first pick in the 3rd round(ahead of guys like Barber, Morency, Moats etc.) for a reason, and who am i or anyone else on this board to argue?With Gore now two years removed from his latest knee surgery, he should be close to 100%. As far as people being concerned about him reinjuring his knees, who is the last person to tear the same ACL twice? As far as i am concerned, Gore is one of the safests bets in the league to NOT tear an ACL this coming year(and not just because he will be on the bench) ;) Anyway, after watching Barlow last year, i know one thing, he is not a good NFL starting RB. While Gore may be completely unproven, at least he hasnt proven that he sucks yet(unlike Barlow)

 
When it comes down to it though, the Niners staff felt like Gore was worth the first pick in the 3rd round(ahead of guys like Barber, Morency, Moats etc.) for a reason, and who am i or anyone else on this board to argue?
Exactly. Neither you, I, the other posters, or even the esteemed staff of this publication have a personal stake in how well Gore ultimately performs. The Niners coaching staff/scouting dept. are literally staking their jobs/careers on the draft picks they have made. Doesn't mean they always know what they are doing (see Ditka and Ricky Williams) but I do give more credibility to people who do this for a living than a bunch of amateurs who think they know better.
 

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