Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Gore was a workhorse. Westbrook also got very little work. Is that because he sucks?
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Grab Dixon ASAP! (1 Viewer)
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SomeGuyNamedDavid
Footballguy
Most people who grabbed Dixon didn't do it for this week.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
I'm sure the same applies to those who picked up Westbrook.
yoadrian
Footballguy
Actually I heard he was expected to go much higher. Whatever, Brady went in the 6th round too, but he could have been a first. Sometimes draft round dont mean jack
LawFitz
Footballguy
Exactly. I bet Sammy Traveller doesn't recall in what round Gore was drafted.
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
He was drafted in the 3rd round, 65th overall, smartypants. There's a much better track record for 3rd rounders than 6ths. It takes a lot more luck to succeed out of the 6th round. For every Brady, there were many 6th rounders who didn't pan out. Kurt Warner was even more lucky - he was never drafted.
Good list here.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Brandon Jackson was a third rounder while Ryan Grant went undrafted. Who do you think is better?
yoadrian
Footballguy
I don't anyone here mistakes this guy for LT or Marshall Faulk or something, but he does have an opportunity, sometimes that's all it takes (see Arian Foster, undrafted free agent)
Andrew Garda
Moderator
The Niners under Singletary don't split carries much. That's why neither Dixon nor Westy saw much action this year until now. This may be different with these two guys since Dixon is still developing and Westbrook is as brittle as stale crackers but we won't know until this weekend and honestly, it wouldn't shock me if one emerged as 'the guy' for the rest of the year.
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
Ryan Grant. Still beside the point. Ryan Grant came out of nowhere and people went all over to get him. If Dixon blows up next week, FF owners will clamor to get him.Point is: good luck with Dixon. He could pan out, or not. I'd take my chances on proven players. Dixon didn't do much during the season to take the load off Gore.
Feel free to blackdot here and prove me wrong if Dixon does very well in the next few games.
SomeGuyNamedDavid
Footballguy
How many "proven" players are sitting on waivers in week 13?
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
Not many. So take Dixon if there are few other options.
Koya
Footballguy
100% chance at the right prediction though. Gotta like them odds.
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
Deadpanning is not tolerated in this forum.
I wonder if you used the same logic this year with Arian Foster: "If Arian was really that good he wouldn't have been on the practice squad last year, only dummies will draft him in the 4th round!" Or perhaps Brady: "Brady will never be a good NFL QB since he was picked in the 6th or 7th round, if he was any good he would have been picked in the 1st round...Tom the bust Brady will be his nick name is a few years."We will see what Dixon offers soon.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
From a guy who watched a decent amount of SEC football over the last couple years, I was and am still of the strong opinion that Dixon was leaps and bounds better than Tate. Said that in the pre-draft and post-draft threads. Now, at least one GM disagreed with me and took Tate early. I thought Dixon would be late 2nd, early 3rd, but that Tate should go 20+ picks later. What I saw reminded me of a shiftier Shonn Greene.
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
You all are missing the point. Have you read my more recent posts?Not many studs come out of these 6th rounders. For every Arian Foster there's an AP, McCoy, Gore and Mendenhall. Up and until they are proven they are just that -- we just don't know. Who knew Arian Foster would bust out like he did? He was lucky Ben Tate was out before the season even started and he took the opportunity. Same with Brady -- it was not until he took the field that he dominated. Can't predict Dixon. If he busts out then
footballnerd
Footballguy
Blount Force Trauma, Mike Hart, The Law Firm, Fred Jackson.....etc etc.Sometimes its just a matter of getting the opportunity to become a productive back
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WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
Call me crazy, but I certainly don't think that it's outside the realm of possibility that Westbrook stays healthy and productive the rest of the year. He has basically had a year and a half off to rest. Even before the season started the word was that he was in the best shape that he had been in years. Now with only 4 weeks to go in the fantasy season... and him being rested at practices until Fridays.... I think he will be fine.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
What round was Antonio Gates drafted?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Exactly. NFL talent evaluators are hired and fired all the time. It is an inexact science.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Coach Mike Singletary confirmed that he's taking it easy on Brian Westbrook (ankle) because of the short practice week.It's not just Westbrook. Singletary has conducted lighter practices with more rest for all players. Westbrook is fully expected to start Sunday at Green Bay after returning to practice Friday afternoon. He's a good bet for 15-18 touches and RB2 status.Source: San Francisco Chronicle A bump/pot hole in the Dixon road
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Not sure it's an either/or proposition with Westbrook and Dixon. This article quoting Singletary suggests more of a Jacobs/Bradshaw split prior to Bradshaw's fumble issues.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../SPCR1GKLC8.DTL
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../SPCR1GKLC8.DTL
The one thing Westbrook has going for him is that the NFL has placed such an emphasis on preventing concussions, so he faces less of a likelihood of getting a hit to the head. The two concussions he suffered in a 3 week span make him prone to future concussions, if he suffers one this year he's probably done for the season, and I hope he calls it a career. Aside from concussions, Westbrook has always had injury problems. Granted we're talking about him finishing out 4 or 5 games, so it's not an impossibility that he'll finish, but if I were a Westbrook owner I'd probably stash Dixon on my bench.
stp-d
Footballguy
One hard hit & Westy is gone. He was always injury prone, but the concussions is a scarier prospect as he is more susceptible to getting a concussion after a hit than others who have yet to have one or more. I like Dixon on the goal-line to start and then in about 2 weeks when San Fran is out of contention he should see at least 1/2 the carries.You're exactly right. In a sport like Basketball, it is easier it seems to judge talent via draft order, and even in basketball you have some guys undrafted or not drafted early who turn into studs and vice versa (wasn't kwame brown the #1 pick?). But in football it is a completely different story, draft position matters about as much as Obama's ideas regarding talent. 1st round picks are busts all the time while undrafted grocery baggers win superbowls for the Rams. Opportunity is 75% of the battle in football. Dixon will get his, we will see what happens.
stp-d
Footballguy
Looks like i was 2 weeks offOne hard hit & Westy is gone. He was always injury prone, but the concussions is a scarier prospect as he is more susceptible to getting a concussion after a hit than others who have yet to have one or more. I like Dixon on the goal-line to start and then in about 2 weeks when San Fran is out of contention he should see at least 1/2 the carries.
ixon 9 carriesWesty 9 carries
footballnerd
Footballguy
Wasn't expecting much from either player, but thought being down we'd see more catches from Westy out of the backfield. In the end Dixon beat him out in receiving with 1 rec to 0Looks like i was 2 weeks off
Utter Chaos
Footballguy
Gates is not a good example if you want to make an argument that NFL talent evaluators don't know what they're doing. He did not play football at all in college. His first love was basketball but there's not a huge demand for 6'4" power forwards in the NBA. I doubt the Chargers, or anybody else for that matter, expected Gates to perform as well as he has. All they add to go on was some high school footage and his workout.
what are we expecting from Dixon this week vs Seattle? They are 28th in fantasy pts given up to RBs, so it's a nice matchup, but will the carries be there? I don't know how many carries he got once the game was out of hand vs while they were still in contention. Who got the GL carries this week?
Some of us are hurting at RB and could use some RB2 help for playoff week 1. It's either Dixon, Bradshaw vs a tough MIN run def, or James Starks...so I am curious how he looked and what you guys expect next week.
Some of us are hurting at RB and could use some RB2 help for playoff week 1. It's either Dixon, Bradshaw vs a tough MIN run def, or James Starks...so I am curious how he looked and what you guys expect next week.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Good question. It looks like most of his work came when the game was still competitive. He only had 1 target and no touches in the 4th quarter. After GB went up 21-13 in the 3rd, he got 5 of his 9 carries in a drive that resulted in a FG. Game wasn't really out of hand until the 4th.I would bet on a healthy workload vs. Seattle. Don't think I can bench Bradshaw for him regardless of the matchup.
