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Greatest Video Game Draft 2011 (1 Viewer)
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sports_fan
Footballguy
Lot of talk about NHL Hockey 94. It was a little before my time but I've played it a bit.
To the people who are considering buying a console to play it: you should try it on an emulator first before you go spend some money for it. From my experience, hockey games are best played in groups. This game is simple and easy to just pick up and start playing, but difficult to master, which makes it an ideal college game. It's still fun on single player but it's just not the same. IMO hockey games blow other sports games out of the water for multi-player. I played an older PS2 hockey game a lot with my roommates in college and we had a ton of fun with it. Completing multiple seasons together. But I didn't hardly ever play it just by myself.
To the people who are considering buying a console to play it: you should try it on an emulator first before you go spend some money for it. From my experience, hockey games are best played in groups. This game is simple and easy to just pick up and start playing, but difficult to master, which makes it an ideal college game. It's still fun on single player but it's just not the same. IMO hockey games blow other sports games out of the water for multi-player. I played an older PS2 hockey game a lot with my roommates in college and we had a ton of fun with it. Completing multiple seasons together. But I didn't hardly ever play it just by myself.
rikishiboy
Footballguy
darn you ...one of my favorite arcade games of all time.
rikishiboy
Footballguy
Gotta go to work...I pmed a list to Slax.
jwb
Footballguy
It's funny - I can never find old-school games in most arcades... except for Galaga. Staying power is impressive (I'm still good for 15 levels or so)
SlaX
Footballguy
The Chuck E Cheese here only has one old-school arcade game in it and it's a Galaga / *name omitted for until drafted* combo. I always pay it a visit when I'm in there. I don't understand why the founder of Atari creates a restaurant with an arcade in it and won't have more arcade classics in it.
Got the PM. Will do.
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Mario Kart
Footballguy
Figured larry would be around tonight.
SlaX
Footballguy
I thought he would be too.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
sorry about that, guys... My cousin's baby got baptized this morning, had family stuff all day... (not to mention church stuff and such)...
3.10 Super Mario 64, Platformer
Say what you will about Super Mario 3 and Super Mario World being revolutionary, but they don't come close to the impact that Mario 64 had. Making 3d legit and mainstream (and proving that it can work), giving Mario a voice (other than Captain Lou Albano), and just overall being an incredible game in and of itself.
Not that I'm confident it will be ranked above Mario 3 or Mario World, but (and this is what makes Mario so great), I don't see how you any of those three could be argued as not being the greatest of all time...
3.10 Super Mario 64, Platformer
Say what you will about Super Mario 3 and Super Mario World being revolutionary, but they don't come close to the impact that Mario 64 had. Making 3d legit and mainstream (and proving that it can work), giving Mario a voice (other than Captain Lou Albano), and just overall being an incredible game in and of itself.
Not that I'm confident it will be ranked above Mario 3 or Mario World, but (and this is what makes Mario so great), I don't see how you any of those three could be argued as not being the greatest of all time...
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SlaX
Footballguy
rikishiboy's pick
3.11 Ms. Pac-Man, Arcade
I'll also add a write-up for him. He can add one later if he likes. This one is a little longer.
Originally conceived as a bootlegged hack of Pac-Man called Crazy Otto, Ms Pac-Man is one of the most popular video games of all time.
Midway was impatiently waiting for Namco to release its sequel to Pac-Man, when they met a couple of guys from MIT, who found a way to make a living by building PAL boards that would fit onto the circuit boards of existing games and modify game play, basically hacking or modding them, as we call it today. They had planned on taking their enhancement kit for Pac-Man and selling it. But what they got surprised them further.
3.11 Ms. Pac-Man, Arcade
I'll also add a write-up for him. He can add one later if he likes. This one is a little longer.
Originally conceived as a bootlegged hack of Pac-Man called Crazy Otto, Ms Pac-Man is one of the most popular video games of all time.
Midway was impatiently waiting for Namco to release its sequel to Pac-Man, when they met a couple of guys from MIT, who found a way to make a living by building PAL boards that would fit onto the circuit boards of existing games and modify game play, basically hacking or modding them, as we call it today. They had planned on taking their enhancement kit for Pac-Man and selling it. But what they got surprised them further.
Of course they decided to make the new Pac-Man female. After going through names, like Miss Pac-Man and Mrs. Pac-Man, they decided on Ms. Pac-Man.*Quote is by Doug Macrae, The Ultimate History of Video Games, 2001
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Mario Kart
Footballguy
Changed my pick last minute here because I hope my other pick makes it back to me after the turn. So, here it goes.
3.12 - Sephiroth, Villain, FFVII, Playstation
No write up due to spotlighting.
3.12 - Sephiroth, Villain, FFVII, Playstation
No write up due to spotlighting.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
All quiet after my villain pick. Don't know if that is good or not.
Anyone have Blue's picks?
Anyone have Blue's picks?
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larry_boy_44
Footballguy
over-rated <clap-clap-clapclapclap>Is he a top 10 villain? Absolutely...
Is he top 5? You could probably make an argument...
Is he number 1? Not a chance...
madshot31
Footballguy
How could I guess this before the post even happened? Travjam
isclaimer: I'm in the same boat as you.
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SlaX
Footballguy
How could I guess this before the post even happened? Travjam
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Maybe, maybe not, however the game is not the same if Sephiroth is any different. His character helped revive and rebuild a great franchise. He may not be the most devilish kind of character but the story is what makes it great and he is a part of that. Sure, another FF villain might play a role in this however, Sephiroth has more allure and is more memorable.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
I love RPGs (especially JRPGs)...I just don't understand the FFVII love... I DO NOT get it... I've never been able to understand it...How could I guess this before the post even happened? Travjam
Is it a good game? Yeah... But it is NOT in the same league as Final Fantasy VI... Its just not... and I have never been able to understand all the love its always gotten...
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I am as big a fan as anyone can be with FFIII however FFVII moved the franchise from kiddie play to gaming. Playstation showed what it can do with a game such as FF with the three-discs it took to tell the whole story for FFVII. I am not going to make a claim for its greatness or anything however I am a huge fan of innovation, origination and replayability. FFVII helped innovate gaming and helped remake FF. I won't say the story is better than FFIII because they are much different.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
the main reason that your statement is wrong, IMO, is because a great franchise doesn't need to be "rebuilt and revived" after the greatest game in the franchise's history.Super Mario World didn't need to be great because the Mario Franchise was in ruins after the greatness of Super Mario 3... That makes no sense...
You rebuild after bad games (which is basically what Final Fantasy should have been doing after just about every FF game after 8... Some were decent, but none were legendary like 6 and 7 were...)
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
See? This is it... This is why Sephiroth (and FFVII) gets the love.It isn't because its great, it isn't because it was the best story or the most engaging...Do you know why it is?Because it had pretty FMV sequences where FFVI didn't have the technology to do FMV. FFVI is NOT a "kiddie game", any game where the entire world is actually destroyed halfway through the game is NOT something a child should be playing with...
madshot31
Footballguy
I strongly disagree with this, but not on the one you think I do.
Super Mario World didn't need to be great because the Mario Franchise was in ruins after the greatness of Super Mario 3... That makes no sense...
You rebuild after bad games (which is basically what Final Fantasy should have been doing after just about every FF game after 8... Some were decent, but none were legendary like 6 and 7 were...)
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
if you're saying "decent" is not close enough for how good games were after 7... you're right... lol That is some hyperbole... lolI strongly disagree with this, but not on the one you think I do.the main reason that your statement is wrong, IMO, is because a great franchise doesn't need to be "rebuilt and revived" after the greatest game in the franchise's history.
Super Mario World didn't need to be great because the Mario Franchise was in ruins after the greatness of Super Mario 3... That makes no sense...
You rebuild after bad games (which is basically what Final Fantasy should have been doing after just about every FF game after 8... Some were decent, but none were legendary like 6 and 7 were...)
SlaX
Footballguy
Well, you have to remember that Final Fantasy VII was the first game that Square released after they severed ties with Nintendo and signed with Sony. Final Fantasy's move to the Sony Playstation may have been the defining reason that the system succeeded.
Super Mario World didn't need to be great because the Mario Franchise was in ruins after the greatness of Super Mario 3... That makes no sense...
You rebuild after bad games (which is basically what Final Fantasy should have been doing after just about every FF game after 8... Some were decent, but none were legendary like 6 and 7 were...)
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Nintendo could not produce the game so Square moved it to Playstation. This game helped move from cartridge to discs. The games, like life, grow with its consumers. A game with cartoon characters and pixels want to be played by adults as they grow. Not many want to remain in the "kiddie" world. Like I said, I love FFIII story as well as round about story and so on but there are no memorable characters as big as Sephiroth and the hero in FFVII.
madshot31
Footballguy
Stupid quote limit.Didn't mean to bold the decent part. I believe there are two all timers in the Final Fantasy series. FF VI/III and one other one that doesn't get the same love as others do. :sleeper pick:if you're saying "decent" is not close enough for how good games were after 7... you're right... lol That is some hyperbole... lolI strongly disagree with this, but not on the one you think I do.
the main reason that your statement is wrong, IMO, is because a great franchise doesn't need to be "rebuilt and revived" after the greatest game in the franchise's history.
Super Mario World didn't need to be great because the Mario Franchise was in ruins after the greatness of Super Mario 3... That makes no sense...
You rebuild after bad games (which is basically what Final Fantasy should have been doing after just about every FF game after 8... Some were decent, but none were legendary like 6 and 7 were...)
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
I'm sorry, but Final Fantasy VII's characters are MORE immature than FF VI's... Its not even close...Just because they went all emo, doesn't mean that they were better characters...
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Due to spotlighting, I will not name any, however, FFIII is a kid's game. I love it, don't get me wrong, but it is not a game that a 40-year old (minus larry) will play. FFVII moved these types of games forward in many aspects with story telling, adult themes, and the like being a part of that. At the center of it all was the hero and Sephiroth.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I PM'ed Blue but it looks like this is where we stop tonight. I was hoping to make my 4th round pick. Oh well.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
you know what?We need to have this discussion later... Way too many games and characters being alluded to that could get drafted...Truce for now?
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SlaX
Footballguy
Well, if everyone gets their picks in before I go to my apt. in the morning, I'll make my pick before I leave. Otherwise, you'll have to wait until I return.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Truce for now but I am not really going to debate the merits of why FFVII is more adult themed than FFIII. It just is and using swears and alluding to other things does not make it more adult themed, if that is your contention. FFIII is child's play compared to games nowadays and it is fun but it is fun in a childish way. That is all. It is like a Disney story video game that paints a pretty picture. Its a good story but is child oriented.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I will look to PM people but I also work second shift (central time). I am thinking 2-hours might be a bit low in the early rounds, no?
madshot31
Footballguy
Its what we sort of agreed on in the proposal thread but I don't have any experience on how much they usually have an effect on a big draft like this or not.
SlaX
Footballguy
Does this give blue 4 hours after 8AM, giving him until noon EST, since he has back-to-back picks?
madshot31
Footballguy
No, people on the turns just get 2 hours.
grateful zed
Footballguy
asteroids
defender
joust
defender
joust
Yo Mama
Footballguy
Any chance we can make the start time 8 AM Pacific for those of us enjoying the 80 degree weather on the left coast?I'll deal with it either way, just wondering.
madshot31
Footballguy
Na, although that would work better for me. Its just the clock is in place to try and stimulate people making their picks quicker. If we move it to 11 AM EST, then we could have a possible 3 picks made in a day before people start getting into the night, where there's a lesser chance of people being around to make picks.
rikishiboy
Footballguy
Thanks for the write-up..I am just gonna add my reason for the selection. First I will concur that Pac-Man desrved it's top spot..it is an iconic game. However, it cannot be denied that Ms. Pac-Man was a much much better game (is also the top selling arcade game evah). In the early 80's my father used to take me down to the local pub and I would spend most of my time drinking root beers and playing Ms. Pac-Man. Naturally, I got pretty good...but I never did reach level 256, which is unplayable.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Most draft clocks around here have a 1 hour clock. The ADD video game crowd in here shouldn't have a problem keeping up with that if the old farts in the novel draft can.
rikishiboy
Footballguy
I am in both. I have also done a lot of these style drafts (even ran several) however, this novel draft is the first one I entered with the FBG standard 1 hour clock. I was always afraid because I live in Japan...however, it has worked out surprisingly well for me. Of course I also have not read a lot of the novels selected, which I am sure helps me out.Most draft clocks around here have a 1 hour clock. The ADD video game crowd in here shouldn't have a problem keeping up with that if the old farts in the novel draft can.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
My two favorite arcade games have traditionally been Galaxian and Ms. PacMan
I particularly like Ms. Pac-Man games where it's been modded to put the Ms. at super speed.
I particularly like Ms. Pac-Man games where it's been modded to put the Ms. at super speed.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Well, since Blue is skipped, I will go this route. Hard to pass on a guy who is a quintessential bad guy over a long period of games. He keeps on trying to be the ruler and while others fit this description as well, Ganon is arguably in the best game series of all time and does more than jump around and fly ships.
4.02 - Ganondorf Dragmire, Zelda, Villain
In the games, Ganon is the archenemy of Link and the leader of the Gerudo, a race of desert brigands, until he acquires great magical power to become a king of evil.[1][2][3][4][5][6] His specific motives vary from game to game, but most often they include capturing Princess Zelda, and planning to achieve the domination of Hyrule and presumably the world beyond it. To this end, he seeks the Triforce, a powerful magical relic. Frequently, he already possesses a portion of the Triforce called the Triforce of Power, which gives him great strength but not enough to accomplish his ends, leading him to hunt the remaining Triforce pieces.
Mario Kart
Arcade(1)
Arcade(2)
Third Generation (1983-1990)
Fourth Generation (1987-1995)
Fifth Generation (1993-2001)
Sixth Generation (1998-2009)
Seventh Generation (2005-Present)
FPS/TPS
Sports
Strategy/RTS
Racing
Puzzle
Fighter
Action/Adventure
Platformer
Hack and Slash/Beat 'em Up
Role Playing
Suspense/Horror
Best Multiplayer
Best Story
Best Main Character(1) Link (1.12)
Best Main Character(2) Samus Aran (2.02)
Best Villain(1) Sephiroth (3.12)
Best Villain(2) Ganondorf Dragmire (4.02)
Worst Game
Flex Video Game(1)
Flex Video Game(2)
4.02 - Ganondorf Dragmire, Zelda, Villain
In the games, Ganon is the archenemy of Link and the leader of the Gerudo, a race of desert brigands, until he acquires great magical power to become a king of evil.[1][2][3][4][5][6] His specific motives vary from game to game, but most often they include capturing Princess Zelda, and planning to achieve the domination of Hyrule and presumably the world beyond it. To this end, he seeks the Triforce, a powerful magical relic. Frequently, he already possesses a portion of the Triforce called the Triforce of Power, which gives him great strength but not enough to accomplish his ends, leading him to hunt the remaining Triforce pieces.
Mario Kart
Arcade(1)
Arcade(2)
Third Generation (1983-1990)
Fourth Generation (1987-1995)
Fifth Generation (1993-2001)
Sixth Generation (1998-2009)
Seventh Generation (2005-Present)
FPS/TPS
Sports
Strategy/RTS
Racing
Puzzle
Fighter
Action/Adventure
Platformer
Hack and Slash/Beat 'em Up
Role Playing
Suspense/Horror
Best Multiplayer
Best Story
Best Main Character(1) Link (1.12)
Best Main Character(2) Samus Aran (2.02)
Best Villain(1) Sephiroth (3.12)
Best Villain(2) Ganondorf Dragmire (4.02)
Worst Game
Flex Video Game(1)
Flex Video Game(2)
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