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at people who will continue to support a team even when the owner has given up on them.
I'm going to give Ralph Wilson this offseason to show me that he's not just Al Davis East. If I'm not satisfied that he's actually trying to put a winning product on the field, that's it. If the owner isn't even going to try, why should I bother sticking around?
Whatever happened to Captain Huck anyway?
Right. A fan makes a continued investment of time, money and emotion in his team. Dollar cost averaging is only a valid strategy when a rebound is likely to occur. Die hard Raider fans are the sports world's equivalent of people loading up on Enron stock right now. As a figurative shareholder, I see no problem with walking away after you've been beaten down enough.I'm going to give Ralph Wilson this offseason to show me that he's not just Al Davis East. If I'm not satisfied that he's actually trying to put a winning product on the field, that's it. If the owner isn't even going to try, why should I bother sticking around?
If you were a true fan you would have moved with them.
spending most of his free time picking out which team's jersey to wear on Sundays.
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I don't cheer for the owner, I cheer for my favourite team. Fandom is completely irrational, we're cheering for a group of men we don't know playing a game that has no relevance in our lives. I'm a Saints fan, and with persistent rumours of moving, I always contemplated if I would follow them. I don't think I would have the same attachment to the LA Saints or whatever as I do for the New Orleans Saints, even though I live in Canada. It makes no sense, just the way it is for me. I really doubt another team would ever come close to being as important as the Saints are to me. Which is really sad when you think about it, but to me it's what being a fan is about. Losing would never make me stop being a fan, it just makes winning 100x sweeter.at people who will continue to support a team even when the owner has given up on them.
You would lose it if you saw how many jerseys I own. I don't have a favorite team, but I like to go to games. I have Giants, Eagles and Skins jerseys; several NBA jerseys, a NJ Devils jersey and I just bought an Ovechkin jersey (Hockey jerseys are expensive as hell btw).
I've been giving Ralph Wilson every offseason since Gregg Williams. He keeps hiring head coaches on the cheap and keeps getting his money's worth. Now we have to factor in a mediocre front office as well with no real 'football guy' GM. I'm nearly hoping the team moves to L.A. so I can be free to root for someone else.at people who will continue to support a team even when the owner has given up on them.
You are the football version of those women who just move from one abusive relationship to another.
"Hey, wake up! Have you seen my Pierre Thomas replithentic?"
Again, see my posting above. It's all totally arbitrary. Fans just like to pretend they have some special, magical connection to the team they root for. Really, you don't. You like them because you grew up in that town, or your big brother liked them. That's about it.
btw, did you catch Barry Levinson's documentary on the Colts band on ESPN last night? After seeing that, I can see why you'd feel that way about Irsay.
that's actually the exact opposite of arbitrary.
"Determined by chance, whim, or impulse, and not by necessity, reason, or principle"You might as well choose your "favorite" team based on what state name you can spell using the letters of your name.
ar⋅bi⋅trar⋅y /ˈɑrbɪˌtrɛri/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ahr-bi-trer-ee] Show IPA adjective, noun, plural -trar⋅ies.
Well, usually the connection is geographical. You root for the teams that represent the community in which you live. Why wouldn't you feel a connection to that team?
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Glad this is turning into a dictionary battle.Regardless of the word we use, I think you get the point. At some point you are "picking" your favorite team. And it's based on something stupid. Like where you happened to be born. It's the same thing as the Christian nuts saying "Christianity is right; all other religions are wrong." So because you just happened to be born in Nebraska, your religion is right, and the poor schmuck in India is going to hell?Aaron Rudnicki said:
What if you don't live in a community with a major league sports team? Should you just root for the nearest team?Jeremy said:Well, usually the connection is geographical. You root for the teams that represent the community in which you live. Why wouldn't you feel a connection to that team?Otis said:
Get out a ruler & a map...
The team is bad, you disagree with the decisions made yet you continue to buy tickets?Aaron Rudnicki said:
Do you pick a religion as a kid, learn more and more reasons to believe otherwise yet continue to have "faith"?
I guess this is what it comes down to.I'm no longer a fan of the Knicks because they are heartless, brutally bad, and have sucked hard for too many years now. I was a big Knicks fan growing up because I grew up in New York. I guess I haven't "chosen" a new favorite team yet, since the NBA pretty much sucks, but the Nets are supposedly moving to a block from my apartment in Brooklyn next year. Maybe I'll become a Nets fan. Assuming I decide to start watching basketball again. Does this make me a lame fan? Probably by whatever metric we are using in this thread. I always find it funny the way the sports nerds in the FFA all are up in arms about who is a fan of who, and whether or not it is justified.Jeremy said:Well, usually the connection is geographical. You root for the teams that represent the community in which you live. Why wouldn't you feel a connection to that team?Otis said:
It seems like that's what the rule is to these folks.What if you don't live in a community with a major league sports team? Should you just root for the nearest team?Jeremy said:Well, usually the connection is geographical. You root for the teams that represent the community in which you live. Why wouldn't you feel a connection to that team?Otis said:
And I completely understand that. As a Nashvillian and Titans fan...just don't be one of those "Titans' Fans"...except when they play your team guys. I hate them even more.I wasn't and NFL fan prior to us having a team so I didn't have to deal with that.GoFishTN said:
do people root for their religion to win a championship?how many teams are in the league and how many games do they play each season?The team is bad, you disagree with the decisions made yet you continue to buy tickets?Aaron Rudnicki said:
I don't know. For me it's always been geographical. I guess you're sort of a free agent then. I've never been able to get into sports like hockey or arena football where no WI sports team exists. Beyond the geographical, it does seem kind of arbitrary (if that is the correct wordWhat if you don't live in a community with a major league sports team? Should you just root for the nearest team?Jeremy said:Well, usually the connection is geographical. You root for the teams that represent the community in which you live. Why wouldn't you feel a connection to that team?Otis said:
) I guess it's up to every person to come up with their own way of connecting with a team.
Assuming he attended both UNC and Miami, this is fine. Otherwise it's pretty weak. I don't understand the concept of being a "fan" of a college that you never attended, let alone two such colleges.
So if you like a college team, but never attended the college what are you if not a fan?Assuming he attended both UNC and Miami, this is fine. Otherwise it's pretty weak. I don't understand the concept of being a "fan" of a college that you never attended, let alone two such colleges.How do you guys feel about someone that pulls for 2 college teams? For example, a guy I work with pulls for UNC in basketball and Miami U in football. For some reason this doesn't sit well with me but to each his own.
We get that in Los Angeles quite a bit -- people who are fans of USC Football and UCLA basketball. In my experience, these people typically have no ties to either school.How do you guys feel about someone that pulls for 2 college teams? For example, a guy I work with pulls for UNC in basketball and Miami U in football. For some reason this doesn't sit well with me but to each his own.
Wait? So you're not allowed to be a fan of a college until you graduate high school? "Oh yeah. I've been a North Carolina fan all my life. Oh wait, I forgot. I wasn't allowed to be one until I started going there."
Assuming he attended both UNC and Miami, this is fine. Otherwise it's pretty weak. I don't understand the concept of being a "fan" of a college that you never attended, let alone two such colleges.How do you guys feel about someone that pulls for 2 college teams? For example, a guy I work with pulls for UNC in basketball and Miami U in football. For some reason this doesn't sit well with me but to each his own.
I'm above all else a Nebraska football fan. I'd give up watching every other sporting event combined before I'd give up Nebraska games. I never went to the school and only lived in the state until I was 7. I think some team traditions and fan bases extend far beyond their actual alumni.
I think the Colts are a "secondary" team for a lot of Tennessee fans. You are correct, once Peyton is gone they will no longer be fans. I don't see anything wrong with that personally.
The Bruins are the only one I abandonned in favor of the local Sharks after moving out west. It took years as during the '90s I went to every Bruins/Sharks game rooting for Boston. I started going to Sharks games when the Bruins weren't in town as I simply love the game. Thought the crowd was awesome considering the team mostly sucked since it's 1991 inception. Enjoyed watching them on TV, mostly to fill the hockey void. Liked the fact they were San Jose's team, not another SF/Oakland team that stretches their market radius.Earlier this decade, as I was circling the Boston visit on the calendar, my wife asked me to name every Bruins player. I named about 6 or so. Then she asked me to name every Sharks player and I nailed the usual 20 who suit up plus a few healthy scratches. She then pings me with, "So why do you root for the Bruins again?" Good point. I guess I was in denial that I was more of a Sharks fan than Bruins fan at that point. Been a Sharks fan first and foremost ever since. As the two teams were #1 seeds in last year's playoffs, my father asked me how'd I feel if the Bruins and Sharks met for the Cup. I told him if the Bruins won, it would bring a smile to my face, but if the Sharks won I'd be dancing in the living room.
I just don't like the concept of "secondary" teams.
