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HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (5 Viewers)

Read the first four twice, back to back, between end of July and early December.

:bag:

ETA: you'll notice a ton more stuff the second time. Every chapter is packed with stuff that only makes sense once you know what happens later. It's even richer and more detailed than you can pick up the first time through.

 
Read the first four twice, back to back, between end of July and early December. :bag: ETA: you'll notice a ton more stuff the second time. Every chapter is packed with stuff that only makes sense once you know what happens later. It's even richer and more detailed than you can pick up the first time through.
I'm sure! I will start my re-read after this season on HBO I think.
 
After watching season one again recently on HBO, I picked up the first book two weeks ago. I'm now half way through A Clash of Kings. Really enjoying these books and really looking forward to season two on HBO. Hoping I can finish the third book before April 1 too.
The subsequent posts made me feel a bit better, but man your post made me feel like a slow reader. I started A Game of Thrones maybe six weeks ago, and I'm about a fifth of the way through A Clash of Kings now. And I've been spending what feels like a lot of time with these books.
I don't consider myself a fast reader, I'm just between jobs right now, so I get to spend 2-3 hours a day reading. Funny thing is I haven't read a book for about 20 years. Many nights I'll knock out 4-5 chapters before I sleep, I just kind of keep going because it's so good. 200 pages left in CoC and the next book should arrive shortly. :moneybag:
 
'jestertj said:
After watching season one again recently on HBO, I picked up the first book two weeks ago. I'm now half way through A Clash of Kings. Really enjoying these books and really looking forward to season two on HBO. Hoping I can finish the third book before April 1 too.
The subsequent posts made me feel a bit better, but man your post made me feel like a slow reader. I started A Game of Thrones maybe six weeks ago, and I'm about a fifth of the way through A Clash of Kings now. And I've been spending what feels like a lot of time with these books.
I don't consider myself a fast reader, I'm just between jobs right now, so I get to spend 2-3 hours a day reading. Funny thing is I haven't read a book for about 20 years. Many nights I'll knock out 4-5 chapters before I sleep, I just kind of keep going because it's so good. 200 pages left in CoC and the next book should arrive shortly. :moneybag:
Yeah, for the 1st 3 books at least, once I start reading I have a tough time putting it down. The last 2 books, easier to put down.
 
quick question:

Reek/Ramsay Bolton helped flay the millers boys' heads that were used as imposters for bran and rickon. He know they both are probably still alive, and are the rightful heirs to Kings Landing (over Arya). Does Roose know? I would think not. Why hasn't Ramsay sent out people looking for the boys? Why didn't he step in and kill the Starks back when he could have?
 
quick question:

Reek/Ramsay Bolton helped flay the millers boys' heads that were used as imposters for bran and rickon. He know they both are probably still alive, and are the rightful heirs to Kings Landing (over Arya). Does Roose know? I would think not. Why hasn't Ramsay sent out people looking for the boys? Why didn't he step in and kill the Starks back when he could have?
Don't read this if you haven't finished all the books.
It's hard to tell exactly how many days were involved, but IIRC soon after they returned to Winterfell with the miller's boys Ramsay left to bring his troops back to sack Winterfell, so he didn't really have time/resources to pursue Bran/Rickon then. After the sack he went home, probably in anticipation of some sort of Ironmen counterstrike (since they were still abroad in the area) rather than risking getting caught in the open with his roughly 200 troops. By the time he got back and situated he probably figured the trail had gone cold and he needed to re-consolidate his power base. Then he got busy preparing for his marriage, establishing Bolton dominance over the North, etc. I doubt he's forgotten about them, he might just assume they're no longer a threat, or he's planning to deal with them later. Since he ends up getting married to fake Arya, its in his best interest to let everyone think the other Starks are dead, so he maybe hasn't told his daddy. Then again daddy isn't exactly captain scruples, so it may be a moot point - Roose would rather have his ******* inheriting Winterfell anyway, so he'd be as likely to extinguish Bran and Rickon as Ramsay would, so telling daddy might not have hurt.
 
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quick question:

Reek/Ramsay Bolton helped flay the millers boys' heads that were used as imposters for bran and rickon. He know they both are probably still alive, and are the rightful heirs to Kings Landing (over Arya). Does Roose know? I would think not. Why hasn't Ramsay sent out people looking for the boys? Why didn't he step in and kill the Starks back when he could have?
Don't read this if you haven't finished all the books.
It's hard to tell exactly how many days were involved, but IIRC soon after they returned to Winterfell with the miller's boys Ramsay left to bring his troops back to sack Winterfell, so he didn't really have time/resources to pursue Bran/Rickon then. After the sack he went home, probably in anticipation of some sort of Ironmen counterstrike (since they were still abroad in the area) rather than risking getting caught in the open with his roughly 200 troops. By the time he got back and situated he probably figured the trail had gone cold and he needed to re-consolidate his power base. Then he got busy preparing for his marriage, establishing Bolton dominance over the North, etc. I doubt he's forgotten about them, he might just assume they're no longer a threat, or he's planning to deal with them later. Since he ends up getting married to fake Arya, its in his best interest to let everyone think the other Starks are dead, so he maybe hasn't told his daddy. Then again daddy isn't exactly captain scruples, so it may be a moot point - Roose would rather have his ******* inheriting Winterfell anyway, so he'd be as likely to extinguish Bran and Rickon as Ramsay would, so telling daddy might not have hurt.
thanks. that is line with what I was thinking. It's just a loop that is out there that hasn't been closed (among many) (and rarely gets discussed - I think).
 
quick question:

Reek/Ramsay Bolton helped flay the millers boys' heads that were used as imposters for bran and rickon. He know they both are probably still alive, and are the rightful heirs to Kings Landing (over Arya). Does Roose know? I would think not. Why hasn't Ramsay sent out people looking for the boys? Why didn't he step in and kill the Starks back when he could have?
Don't read this if you haven't finished all the books.It's hard to tell exactly how many days were involved, but IIRC soon after they returned to Winterfell with the miller's boys Ramsay left to bring his troops back to sack Winterfell, so he didn't really have time/resources to pursue Bran/Rickon then. After the sack he went home, probably in anticipation of some sort of Ironmen counterstrike (since they were still abroad in the area) rather than risking getting caught in the open with his roughly 200 troops. By the time he got back and situated he probably figured the trail had gone cold and he needed to re-consolidate his power base. Then he got busy preparing for his marriage, establishing Bolton dominance over the North, etc. I doubt he's forgotten about them, he might just assume they're no longer a threat, or he's planning to deal with them later. Since he ends up getting married to fake Arya, its in his best interest to let everyone think the other Starks are dead, so he maybe hasn't told his daddy. Then again daddy isn't exactly captain scruples, so it may be a moot point - Roose would rather have his ******* inheriting Winterfell anyway, so he'd be as likely to extinguish Bran and Rickon as Ramsay would, so telling daddy might not have hurt.
thanks. that is line with what I was thinking. It's just a loop that is out there that hasn't been closed (among many) (and rarely gets discussed - I think).
I don't know why, but it's bugged me so far that Rickon is mostly undeveloped and essentially vanishes from the story after they leave Winterfell. I'd like to believe Skaagos gets woven into the plot somehow. You can't just have Shaggydog drop out like that. Similarly with Nymeria - those wolves have to come back into play, don't they?
 
quick question:

Reek/Ramsay Bolton helped flay the millers boys' heads that were used as imposters for bran and rickon. He know they both are probably still alive, and are the rightful heirs to Kings Landing (over Arya). Does Roose know? I would think not. Why hasn't Ramsay sent out people looking for the boys? Why didn't he step in and kill the Starks back when he could have?
Don't read this if you haven't finished all the books.It's hard to tell exactly how many days were involved, but IIRC soon after they returned to Winterfell with the miller's boys Ramsay left to bring his troops back to sack Winterfell, so he didn't really have time/resources to pursue Bran/Rickon then. After the sack he went home, probably in anticipation of some sort of Ironmen counterstrike (since they were still abroad in the area) rather than risking getting caught in the open with his roughly 200 troops. By the time he got back and situated he probably figured the trail had gone cold and he needed to re-consolidate his power base. Then he got busy preparing for his marriage, establishing Bolton dominance over the North, etc. I doubt he's forgotten about them, he might just assume they're no longer a threat, or he's planning to deal with them later. Since he ends up getting married to fake Arya, its in his best interest to let everyone think the other Starks are dead, so he maybe hasn't told his daddy. Then again daddy isn't exactly captain scruples, so it may be a moot point - Roose would rather have his ******* inheriting Winterfell anyway, so he'd be as likely to extinguish Bran and Rickon as Ramsay would, so telling daddy might not have hurt.
thanks. that is line with what I was thinking. It's just a loop that is out there that hasn't been closed (among many) (and rarely gets discussed - I think).
I don't know why, but it's bugged me so far that Rickon is mostly undeveloped and essentially vanishes from the story after they leave Winterfell. I'd like to believe Skaagos gets woven into the plot somehow. You can't just have Shaggydog drop out like that. Similarly with Nymeria - those wolves have to come back into play, don't they?
ya, you have to think they will. Especially Nymeria.
 
quick question:

Reek/Ramsay Bolton helped flay the millers boys' heads that were used as imposters for bran and rickon. He know they both are probably still alive, and are the rightful heirs to Kings Landing (over Arya). Does Roose know? I would think not. Why hasn't Ramsay sent out people looking for the boys? Why didn't he step in and kill the Starks back when he could have?
Don't read this if you haven't finished all the books.It's hard to tell exactly how many days were involved, but IIRC soon after they returned to Winterfell with the miller's boys Ramsay left to bring his troops back to sack Winterfell, so he didn't really have time/resources to pursue Bran/Rickon then. After the sack he went home, probably in anticipation of some sort of Ironmen counterstrike (since they were still abroad in the area) rather than risking getting caught in the open with his roughly 200 troops. By the time he got back and situated he probably figured the trail had gone cold and he needed to re-consolidate his power base. Then he got busy preparing for his marriage, establishing Bolton dominance over the North, etc. I doubt he's forgotten about them, he might just assume they're no longer a threat, or he's planning to deal with them later. Since he ends up getting married to fake Arya, its in his best interest to let everyone think the other Starks are dead, so he maybe hasn't told his daddy. Then again daddy isn't exactly captain scruples, so it may be a moot point - Roose would rather have his ******* inheriting Winterfell anyway, so he'd be as likely to extinguish Bran and Rickon as Ramsay would, so telling daddy might not have hurt.
thanks. that is line with what I was thinking. It's just a loop that is out there that hasn't been closed (among many) (and rarely gets discussed - I think).
I don't know why, but it's bugged me so far that Rickon is mostly undeveloped and essentially vanishes from the story after they leave Winterfell. I'd like to believe Skaagos gets woven into the plot somehow. You can't just have Shaggydog drop out like that. Similarly with Nymeria - those wolves have to come back into play, don't they?
ya, you have to think they will. Especially Nymeria.
Nobody puts Shaggydog in the corner!
 
quick question:

Reek/Ramsay Bolton helped flay the millers boys' heads that were used as imposters for bran and rickon. He know they both are probably still alive, and are the rightful heirs to Kings Landing (over Arya). Does Roose know? I would think not. Why hasn't Ramsay sent out people looking for the boys? Why didn't he step in and kill the Starks back when he could have?
Don't read this if you haven't finished all the books.It's hard to tell exactly how many days were involved, but IIRC soon after they returned to Winterfell with the miller's boys Ramsay left to bring his troops back to sack Winterfell, so he didn't really have time/resources to pursue Bran/Rickon then. After the sack he went home, probably in anticipation of some sort of Ironmen counterstrike (since they were still abroad in the area) rather than risking getting caught in the open with his roughly 200 troops. By the time he got back and situated he probably figured the trail had gone cold and he needed to re-consolidate his power base. Then he got busy preparing for his marriage, establishing Bolton dominance over the North, etc. I doubt he's forgotten about them, he might just assume they're no longer a threat, or he's planning to deal with them later. Since he ends up getting married to fake Arya, its in his best interest to let everyone think the other Starks are dead, so he maybe hasn't told his daddy. Then again daddy isn't exactly captain scruples, so it may be a moot point - Roose would rather have his ******* inheriting Winterfell anyway, so he'd be as likely to extinguish Bran and Rickon as Ramsay would, so telling daddy might not have hurt.
thanks. that is line with what I was thinking. It's just a loop that is out there that hasn't been closed (among many) (and rarely gets discussed - I think).
I don't know why, but it's bugged me so far that Rickon is mostly undeveloped and essentially vanishes from the story after they leave Winterfell. I'd like to believe Skaagos gets woven into the plot somehow. You can't just have Shaggydog drop out like that. Similarly with Nymeria - those wolves have to come back into play, don't they?
ya, you have to think they will. Especially Nymeria.
Nobody puts Shaggydog in the corner!
[Nymeria
Fairly sure she is the she-wolf that gets mentioned roaming the Riverlands throughout the books. I tend to think the unaccounted for wolves have joined up with her, or that Shaggydog is with Rickon under Manderly's protection.
 
quick question:

Reek/Ramsay Bolton helped flay the millers boys' heads that were used as imposters for bran and rickon. He know they both are probably still alive, and are the rightful heirs to Kings Landing (over Arya). Does Roose know? I would think not. Why hasn't Ramsay sent out people looking for the boys? Why didn't he step in and kill the Starks back when he could have?
Don't read this if you haven't finished all the books.It's hard to tell exactly how many days were involved, but IIRC soon after they returned to Winterfell with the miller's boys Ramsay left to bring his troops back to sack Winterfell, so he didn't really have time/resources to pursue Bran/Rickon then. After the sack he went home, probably in anticipation of some sort of Ironmen counterstrike (since they were still abroad in the area) rather than risking getting caught in the open with his roughly 200 troops. By the time he got back and situated he probably figured the trail had gone cold and he needed to re-consolidate his power base. Then he got busy preparing for his marriage, establishing Bolton dominance over the North, etc. I doubt he's forgotten about them, he might just assume they're no longer a threat, or he's planning to deal with them later. Since he ends up getting married to fake Arya, its in his best interest to let everyone think the other Starks are dead, so he maybe hasn't told his daddy. Then again daddy isn't exactly captain scruples, so it may be a moot point - Roose would rather have his ******* inheriting Winterfell anyway, so he'd be as likely to extinguish Bran and Rickon as Ramsay would, so telling daddy might not have hurt.
thanks. that is line with what I was thinking. It's just a loop that is out there that hasn't been closed (among many) (and rarely gets discussed - I think).
I don't know why, but it's bugged me so far that Rickon is mostly undeveloped and essentially vanishes from the story after they leave Winterfell. I'd like to believe Skaagos gets woven into the plot somehow. You can't just have Shaggydog drop out like that. Similarly with Nymeria - those wolves have to come back into play, don't they?
ya, you have to think they will. Especially Nymeria.
Nobody puts Shaggydog in the corner!
[Nymeria
Fairly sure she is the she-wolf that gets mentioned roaming the Riverlands throughout the books. I tend to think the unaccounted for wolves have joined up with her, or that Shaggydog is with Rickon under Manderly's protection.
Nymeria definitely
is the "large shewolf" leader of the pack of roaming riverland wolves. And Arya has been warging in her and even pulled Catelyn's body from the river which allowed the brothers without banners to resurrect her. Shaggydog I assume is with Rickon still off in Skaggos. I guess we will find that out next time we hear from Davos.I am wondering if there is some weird twist where Rickon ends up the actual heir to Winterfell but all this drama he has had to undergo (and he already is seemingly angry and unstable through Shaggydog) makes him more of a Ramsey Bolton type than a Stark.
 
End of DoD seems to suggest that Bran will be able to warg into one of the dragons. I see some sort of Targaryen-Stark alliance to reclaim the Seven Kingdoms at some point soon, maybe in the next couple of books. It's being setup as whoever can defeat the White Walkers during the Winter will rule, and I severely doubt that is anyone currently in the Seven Kingdoms.
 
quick question:

Reek/Ramsay Bolton helped flay the millers boys' heads that were used as imposters for bran and rickon. He know they both are probably still alive, and are the rightful heirs to Kings Landing (over Arya). Does Roose know? I would think not. Why hasn't Ramsay sent out people looking for the boys? Why didn't he step in and kill the Starks back when he could have?
Don't read this if you haven't finished all the books.It's hard to tell exactly how many days were involved, but IIRC soon after they returned to Winterfell with the miller's boys Ramsay left to bring his troops back to sack Winterfell, so he didn't really have time/resources to pursue Bran/Rickon then. After the sack he went home, probably in anticipation of some sort of Ironmen counterstrike (since they were still abroad in the area) rather than risking getting caught in the open with his roughly 200 troops. By the time he got back and situated he probably figured the trail had gone cold and he needed to re-consolidate his power base. Then he got busy preparing for his marriage, establishing Bolton dominance over the North, etc. I doubt he's forgotten about them, he might just assume they're no longer a threat, or he's planning to deal with them later. Since he ends up getting married to fake Arya, its in his best interest to let everyone think the other Starks are dead, so he maybe hasn't told his daddy. Then again daddy isn't exactly captain scruples, so it may be a moot point - Roose would rather have his ******* inheriting Winterfell anyway, so he'd be as likely to extinguish Bran and Rickon as Ramsay would, so telling daddy might not have hurt.
thanks. that is line with what I was thinking. It's just a loop that is out there that hasn't been closed (among many) (and rarely gets discussed - I think).
I don't know why, but it's bugged me so far that Rickon is mostly undeveloped and essentially vanishes from the story after they leave Winterfell. I'd like to believe Skaagos gets woven into the plot somehow. You can't just have Shaggydog drop out like that. Similarly with Nymeria - those wolves have to come back into play, don't they?
ya, you have to think they will. Especially Nymeria.
Nobody puts Shaggydog in the corner!
[Nymeria
Fairly sure she is the she-wolf that gets mentioned roaming the Riverlands throughout the books. I tend to think the unaccounted for wolves have joined up with her, or that Shaggydog is with Rickon under Manderly's protection.
I figured that Nymeria is terrorizing the riverlands and it seems obvious Shaggydog is with Rickon and Osha in Skagos. Summer is with Bran, Ghost is with Jon. Lady and Grey Wind - valar morghulis. My complaint is that Martin has basically consigned Ricon, Shaggydog, and Nymeria to the periphery for most of the story since book one. It seems a certainty they still have a big part to play, so it's a tad aggravating they get less lines than clods like Poderick Payne and Quentyn "Toast" Martel.
 
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I remember there were some people in here wondering if they would miss stuff by starting from the second book. Well, the DVD extras appear to cover absolutely eveything in the first book and then some.

 
'Clifford said:
End of DoD seems to suggest that Bran will be able to warg into one of the dragons. I see some sort of Targaryen-Stark alliance to reclaim the Seven Kingdoms at some point soon, maybe in the next couple of books. It's being setup as whoever can defeat the White Walkers during the Winter will rule, and I severely doubt that is anyone currently in the Seven Kingdoms.
elaborate? I must have missed this point.
 
'CBusAlex said:
I remember there were some people in here wondering if they would miss stuff by starting from the second book. Well, the DVD extras appear to cover absolutely eveything in the first book and then some.
howso? extra scenes?
 
'CBusAlex said:
I remember there were some people in here wondering if they would miss stuff by starting from the second book. Well, the DVD extras appear to cover absolutely eveything in the first book and then some.
howso? extra scenes?
There's a menu you can turn on while you're watching the episodes. When a character's on screen or when some piece of the history of Westeros is referenced, it'll pop up and you can play a short video explaining all the backstory for that item.Like, whenever Robert refers to Lyanna, you can go to that menu and watch a 5 minute clip narrated by Robert describing the events leading up to the rebellion, or one about the history of the Stark family.
 
Pretty interesting article about Season 2 -- "Can Game of Thrones season two live up to season one?"

DON'T READ IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THROUGH BOOK 3. Lots of spoilers about those books.

Link

 
I almost forgot how good last night's episode was. Almost.So, do we know how to access all the dragon eggs on the bluray yet?
Last night? Did it start already, I thought it was starting in April?
Yeah season two starts April 1st, the week after Mad Men. The next few months worth of sundays are going to be excellent. I'm guessing he just got the DVDs or something and accidentally left a word or two out of his post.
 
I almost forgot how good last night's episode was. Almost.So, do we know how to access all the dragon eggs on the bluray yet?
Last night? Did it start already, I thought it was starting in April?
Yeah season two starts April 1st, the week after Mad Men. The next few months worth of sundays are going to be excellent. I'm guessing he just got the DVDs or something and accidentally left a word or two out of his post.
OK, thanks.
 
Pretty interesting article about Season 2 -- "Can Game of Thrones season two live up to season one?"

DON'T READ IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THROUGH BOOK 3. Lots of spoilers about those books.

Link
the show's already proved that viewers will listen to any amount of exposition, if it's delivered in the form of a lecture to a naked lady.
:lol: So true.I wish they'd make more than 10 episodes.

 
I went and bought the Blu-ray for season 1 (was thinking the $34.99 price isn't going to last forever, and it'll likely go up in the future) even though I don't have a Blu-ray player yet (just recently got a TV worthy of getting the player.) Now it sits their mocking me cause I can't play it.

 
man, I hate the fact that all the :nerd: have probably read the books and know what's going to happen in Season 2. I've been extremely cautious to read anything online re the show in fear of spoilers :kicksrock:

You guys doing a good job of keeping spoilers out of this thread?

 
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man, I hate the fact that all the :nerd: have probably read the books and know what's going to happen in Season 2. I've been extremely cautious to read anything online re the show in fear of spoilers :kicksrock:

You guys doing a good job of keeping spoilers out of this thread?
Excellent job in this thread. I haven't read any of the books yet, and I don't think I've seen one spoiler here.
 
man, I hate the fact that all the :nerd: have probably read the books and know what's going to happen in Season 2. I've been extremely cautious to read anything online re the show in fear of spoilers :kicksrock:

You guys doing a good job of keeping spoilers out of this thread?
Excellent job in this thread. I haven't read any of the books yet, and I don't think I've seen one spoiler here.
HARRY AND DUMBLEDORF DIE AT THE END
 
I'm halfway through Storm of Swords now, and watching the previews is even more exciting than before now that I recognize what the scenes in the previews are from reading the books. I'll have to decide whether to just enjoy season 2 without starting book 4 or to keep reading.

 
man, I hate the fact that all the :nerd: have probably read the books and know what's going to happen in Season 2. I've been extremely cautious to read anything online re the show in fear of spoilers :kicksrock:

You guys doing a good job of keeping spoilers out of this thread?
Excellent job in this thread. I haven't read any of the books yet, and I don't think I've seen one spoiler here.
I agree. Thanks to everyone here for using the spoiler tag so effectively. It is really apprecaited!
 
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