HC Shane Steichen, IND (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

Colts hire Shane Steichen: Indianapolis brings aboard former Eagles OC as next head coach

The Colts have found their new coach

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[Leroy Hoard]

Colts hire Shane Steichen: Indianapolis brings aboard former Eagles OC as next head coach

The Colts have found their new coach

www.cbssports.com

Nice of them not to do it on a Saturday.

 

[JohnnyU]

Colts hire Shane Steichen: Indianapolis brings aboard former Eagles OC as next head coach

The Colts have found their new coach

www.cbssports.com

Nice of them not to do it on a Saturday.

If true, I'm just glad it's not another geezer. I may be throwing stones this time next year, but for now I'm happy.

 

[JohnnyU]

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Colts have informed other head coaching candidates that they are "moving in a different direction" as they eye Eagles OC Shane Steichen for their head coaching job.​

After earlier reports of the Colts having a "lengthy" interview with Steichen earlier in the week, it sounds like the team is nearing a decision to hire the Eagles' offensive coordinator as their next head coach. Steichen has been with the Eagles for the last two seasons, proving instrumental in the development of quarterback Jalen Hurts and the team's offensive success. Over the last two seasons, Steichen's Eagles have finished 12th and third in points per game, while ranking fourth in EPA per play (0.081). The Colts currently hold the fourth overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft, which Steichen will likely use to bring in a franchise quarterback to help with his rebuild. While a deal is not officially in place, it sounds like the Colts have their guy if all continues to go well.

 

[JohnnyU]

This is huge news IMO

 

[popeye]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

With a new HC, I could see them moving up to get “his guy”.

 

[menobrown]

FWIW, if we are trying to get a picture of the kind of offense he might like to run now that he has total control, he credits Norv Turner as his biggest influence.

 

[JohnnyU]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

With a new HC, I could see them moving up to get “his guy”.

He shouldn’t. They aren’t worth it. Sit tight.

 

[travdogg]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

With a new HC, I could see them moving up to get “his guy”.

I'd be almost shocked if they didn't, especially when 1 and probably 3 want to move down.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

With a new HC, I could see them moving up to get “his guy”.

Albert Breer
@AlbertBreer
Colts owner Jim Irsay may have tipped his team's hand, saying Indy favored an offensive coach, "Knowing we're going to have to find a young quarterback to develop." GM Chris Ballard's head whipped around as he said it. Indy's got the fourth pick.
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Brent Sobleski
@brentsobleski
It's hard to envision the Colts making a move for Bryce Young with Chris Ballard's preference toward high-end (physical) traits and Shane Steichen's coaching history. Young doesn't really fit into that mix. Mostly likely means Stroud or Levis.
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Ben Kiehl@KiehlBen
He had success with Jalen hurts though, and Bryce Young would fit better in that type of RPO offense you'd think?
Brent Sobleski@brentsobleski
Not sure if you want him running too many designed runs in the NFL. Stroud may not have been on the move as much, but his tape against Georgia shows he can potential thrive with that type of usage.

 

[JohnnyU]

Colts expected to sign Jim Bob Cooter as OC. With a name like that it safe to say he isn’t from New Jersey

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports the Colts are expected to name Jaguars passing game coordinator Jim Bob Cooter as their next offensive coordinator.​

Cooter reunites with Colts head coach Shane Steichen after the two spent 2021 as members of the Eagles' coaching staff. Cooter's last offensive coordinator role came with the Lions (2016-2018), where in his best season, he had them ranked 13th in yards per game (337.8) and seventh in points per game (25.60). He showed a propensity at times to throw early and often with then-Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford, and will likely have a young new signal-caller to coach up in 2023

 

[Chaka]

Colts expected to sign Jim Bob Cooter as OC. With a name like that it safe to say he isn’t from New Jersey

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports the Colts are expected to name Jaguars passing game coordinator Jim Bob Cooter as their next offensive coordinator.​

Cooter reunites with Colts head coach Shane Steichen after the two spent 2021 as members of the Eagles' coaching staff. Cooter's last offensive coordinator role came with the Lions (2016-2018), where in his best season, he had them ranked 13th in yards per game (337.8) and seventh in points per game (25.60). He showed a propensity at times to throw early and often with then-Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford, and will likely have a young new signal-caller to coach up in 2023

I have difficulty seeing JB Cooter as plus OC signing.

It makes me believe Steichen intends to call the offense, at least initially.

Cooter has never met a pass play he didn't need to immediately roll out.

 

[fatness]

Colts expected to sign Jim Bob Cooter as OC. With a name like that it safe to say he isn’t from New Jersey

ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports the Colts are expected to name Jaguars passing game coordinator Jim Bob Cooter as their next offensive coordinator.​

Cooter reunites with Colts head coach Shane Steichen after the two spent 2021 as members of the Eagles' coaching staff. Cooter's last offensive coordinator role came with the Lions (2016-2018), where in his best season, he had them ranked 13th in yards per game (337.8) and seventh in points per game (25.60). He showed a propensity at times to throw early and often with then-Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford, and will likely have a young new signal-caller to coach up in 2023

I have difficulty seeing JB Cooter as plus OC signing.

It makes me believe Steichen intends to call the offense, at least initially.

Cooter has never met a pass play he didn't need to immediately roll out.

You're right.

Steichen has already said he'll be the team's primary play-caller, and that the team's offensive system will be developed around the personnel, primarily the team's starting quarterback. "Yeah, I will call the plays here," Steichen said at his introductory press conference this week. "The offense is going to be dictated on who's playing quarterback. That's how you build the system."

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

I disagree Popeye, i think 1 QB stands head and shoulders above the rest and has the most upside of all the top 3-4-5 QB names that get tossed around. If it were the old days where Sam Bradford could be your #1 pick and get like $100M on Day 1(I'm exaggerating)). I don't think we would hear about more than 1-2 names being considered at the #1 QB taken off the board.

I would say Indy should seriously consider jumping the Texans but others feel differently and that's fine. Plenty of time to discuss, please don't take my post as a negative because I beleive the Colts are one of the few teams that has a shot until everyone starts coming to the same conclusions I have.

The media wants 3-4 QBs being hyped in the Top 5-10 picks, think about last year. It makes for better TV and radio if they have several fan bases believing the Savior is waiting for them in the Draft. Mahomes and Burrow just don't typically appear Year in and Year out but I do see 1 guy that did very well against a lot of the names that are going to be taken in the 1st Round, that's a good measuring stick in my book.

I always tell this story in the off season but one year in the 90s, a guy took a rag tag team of Golden Eagles into Doak Campbell at the height of the FSU/Miami glory days and knocked off the Seminoles and that was Brett Favre, competition and what players do vs other top selections, it matters to me.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

I disagree Popeye, i think 1 QB stands head and shoulders above the rest and has the most upside of all the top 3-4-5 QB names that get tossed around. If it were the old days where Sam Bradford could be your #1 pick and get like $100M on Day 1(I'm exaggerating)). I don't think we would hear about more than 1-2 names being considered at the #1 QB taken off the board.

I would say Indy should seriously consider jumping the Texans but others feel differently and that's fine. Plenty of time to discuss, please don't take my post as a negative because I beleive the Colts are one of the few teams that has a shot until everyone starts coming to the same conclusions I have.

The media wants 3-4 QBs being hyped in the Top 5-10 picks, think about last year. It makes for better TV and radio if they have several fan bases believing the Savior is waiting for them in the Draft. Mahomes and Burrow just don't typically appear Year in and Year out but I do see 1 guy that did very well against a lot of the names that are going to be taken in the 1st Round, that's a good measuring stick in my book.

I always tell this story in the off season but one year in the 90s, a guy took a rag tag team of Golden Eagles into Doak Campbell at the height of the FSU/Miami glory days and knocked off the Seminoles and that was Brett Favre, competition and what players do vs other top selections, it matters to me.

Agree 100%. This draft class is interesting in that there isn't a consensus #1 pick and none of the QBs are once in a decade type of players. But 3 QBs could go in the top 10. This isn't like last year, which may have been one of the worst QB classes of all time. None of these top ranked QBs went to Liberty. They all will go in the first round.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

I disagree Popeye, i think 1 QB stands head and shoulders above the rest and has the most upside of all the top 3-4-5 QB names that get tossed around. If it were the old days where Sam Bradford could be your #1 pick and get like $100M on Day 1(I'm exaggerating)). I don't think we would hear about more than 1-2 names being considered at the #1 QB taken off the board.

I would say Indy should seriously consider jumping the Texans but others feel differently and that's fine. Plenty of time to discuss, please don't take my post as a negative because I beleive the Colts are one of the few teams that has a shot until everyone starts coming to the same conclusions I have.

The media wants 3-4 QBs being hyped in the Top 5-10 picks, think about last year. It makes for better TV and radio if they have several fan bases believing the Savior is waiting for them in the Draft. Mahomes and Burrow just don't typically appear Year in and Year out but I do see 1 guy that did very well against a lot of the names that are going to be taken in the 1st Round, that's a good measuring stick in my book.

I always tell this story in the off season but one year in the 90s, a guy took a rag tag team of Golden Eagles into Doak Campbell at the height of the FSU/Miami glory days and knocked off the Seminoles and that was Brett Favre, competition and what players do vs other top selections, it matters to me.

Agree 100%. This draft class is interesting in that there isn't a consensus #1 pick and none of the QBs are once in a decade type of players. But 3 QBs could go in the top 10. This isn't like last year, which may have been one of the worst QB classes of all time. None of these top ranked QBs went to Liberty. They all will go in the first round.

And on that note and I make no apologies but I think Stroud from Ohio State is head and shoulders the top QB at this moment going into the draft.
I know the Bears like Fields and if that's how they are going to roll and not reset the Rookie QB clock at 36 months with a pretty empty surrounding cast then they better start looking at trade offers even if they aren't as lucrative as others have in the past. If they are set at QB they owe it to themselves to try and get a deal worked to move down.

What could the Bears get for Fields right now or on Draft Day? It's gotta be something nice.

 

[popeye]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

I disagree Popeye, i think 1 QB stands head and shoulders above the rest and has the most upside of all the top 3-4-5 QB names that get tossed around. If it were the old days where Sam Bradford could be your #1 pick and get like $100M on Day 1(I'm exaggerating)). I don't think we would hear about more than 1-2 names being considered at the #1 QB taken off the board.

I would say Indy should seriously consider jumping the Texans but others feel differently and that's fine. Plenty of time to discuss, please don't take my post as a negative because I beleive the Colts are one of the few teams that has a shot until everyone starts coming to the same conclusions I have.

The media wants 3-4 QBs being hyped in the Top 5-10 picks, think about last year. It makes for better TV and radio if they have several fan bases believing the Savior is waiting for them in the Draft. Mahomes and Burrow just don't typically appear Year in and Year out but I do see 1 guy that did very well against a lot of the names that are going to be taken in the 1st Round, that's a good measuring stick in my book.

I always tell this story in the off season but one year in the 90s, a guy took a rag tag team of Golden Eagles into Doak Campbell at the height of the FSU/Miami glory days and knocked off the Seminoles and that was Brett Favre, competition and what players do vs other top selections, it matters to me.

Agree 100%. This draft class is interesting in that there isn't a consensus #1 pick and none of the QBs are once in a decade type of players. But 3 QBs could go in the top 10. This isn't like last year, which may have been one of the worst QB classes of all time. None of these top ranked QBs went to Liberty. They all will go in the first round.

That these players are likely not 'once a decade' type talent is why I'd rather the Colts retain the picks they would otherwise need to use to move up. I don't see Stroud necessarily better than Young + pick 35 (and anything else the Colts would have to deal). If I'm Ballard, I sit at 1.4. Of course I'm not and he may believe one of these QB's are worth moving up.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Agree 100%. This draft class is interesting in that there isn't a consensus #1 pick and none of the QBs are once in a decade type of players. But 3 QBs could go in the top 10. This isn't like last year, which may have been one of the worst QB classes of all time. None of these top ranked QBs went to Liberty. They all will go in the first round.

The more game tape I watch, the more convinced I am that Stroud will be the slam dunk 1.01 by the time the draft rolls around.

Young’s height/weight is going to be a deal-killer for too many teams.

Don’t get me wrong - I think Young can succeed at the next level, and I will likely be drafting him in one league.

I’m just getting a gut feeling that by the time we see Goodell walk on stage, there will be a consensus 1.01, and his name will be CJ Stroud.

I also believe he’s as good a QB prospect as any we’ve seen recently, and a better prospect than his OSU predecessor Fields, or Lance, Wilson, Pickett, and a few others. Stroud has all the tools to be a top 10 NFL QB.

That may not translate to being a top 10 FF QB, but he’s more mobile than people give him credit for, so he could be underrated in that aspect as well.

Planting my flag.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

And on that note and I make no apologies but I think Stroud from Ohio State is head and shoulders the top QB at this moment going into the draft.

I just wrote the post above before I saw this. I’m right there with you.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That these players are likely not 'once a decade' type talent is why I'd rather the Colts retain the picks they would otherwise need to use to move up. I don't see Stroud necessarily better than Young + pick 35 (and anything else the Colts would have to deal). If I'm Ballard, I sit at 1.4. Of course I'm not and he may believe one of these QB's are worth moving up.

I think the Colts would be absolutely foolish to pass on Stroud at 1.04

He’s absolutely worthy of that selection or higher, and he fits their needs to a tee.

There’s a lot of underrating going on this preseason. Using “generational talent” as a benchmark isn’t a very realistic process for evaluating the talent in a draft class.

They’re called generational talents because they show up once in a generation - so if a team is passing on a great QB because they’re not a “generational talent” they're gonna have to wait a long, long time for one who is to come along - and they may not be in a position to draft them when that happens.

Stroud could be the next great pocket passer - he may not be Payton Manning. That doesn’t mean the Colts should pass on him. IMO they’d be foolish to do so.

 

[JohnnyU]

That these players are likely not 'once a decade' type talent is why I'd rather the Colts retain the picks they would otherwise need to use to move up. I don't see Stroud necessarily better than Young + pick 35 (and anything else the Colts would have to deal). If I'm Ballard, I sit at 1.4. Of course I'm not and he may believe one of these QB's are worth moving up.

I think the Colts would be absolutely foolish to pass on Stroud at 1.04

He’s absolutely worthy of that selection or higher, and he fits their needs to a tee.

There’s a lot of underrating going on this preseason. Using “generational talent” as a benchmark isn’t a very realistic process for evaluating the talent in a draft class.

They’re called generational talents because they show up once in a generation - so if a team is passing on a great QB because they’re not a “generational talent” they're gonna have to wait a long, long time for one who is to come along - and they may not be in a position to draft them when that happens.

Stroud could be the next great pocket passer - he may not be Payton Manning. That doesn’t mean the Colts should pass on him. IMO they’d be foolish to do so.

I like Stroud the most in this draft, if I were the Colts I wouldn’t move up to 1.01 to get him unless the cost is reasonable. Otherwise I would sit tight and if “their guy” isn’t there at 1.04, then take BPA at 4 and take Hooker in the 2nd and sign a stop gap for a year.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

I disagree Popeye, i think 1 QB stands head and shoulders above the rest and has the most upside of all the top 3-4-5 QB names that get tossed around. If it were the old days where Sam Bradford could be your #1 pick and get like $100M on Day 1(I'm exaggerating)). I don't think we would hear about more than 1-2 names being considered at the #1 QB taken off the board.

I would say Indy should seriously consider jumping the Texans but others feel differently and that's fine. Plenty of time to discuss, please don't take my post as a negative because I beleive the Colts are one of the few teams that has a shot until everyone starts coming to the same conclusions I have.

The media wants 3-4 QBs being hyped in the Top 5-10 picks, think about last year. It makes for better TV and radio if they have several fan bases believing the Savior is waiting for them in the Draft. Mahomes and Burrow just don't typically appear Year in and Year out but I do see 1 guy that did very well against a lot of the names that are going to be taken in the 1st Round, that's a good measuring stick in my book.

I always tell this story in the off season but one year in the 90s, a guy took a rag tag team of Golden Eagles into Doak Campbell at the height of the FSU/Miami glory days and knocked off the Seminoles and that was Brett Favre, competition and what players do vs other top selections, it matters to me.

Agree 100%. This draft class is interesting in that there isn't a consensus #1 pick and none of the QBs are once in a decade type of players. But 3 QBs could go in the top 10. This isn't like last year, which may have been one of the worst QB classes of all time. None of these top ranked QBs went to Liberty. They all will go in the first round.

And on that note and I make no apologies but I think Stroud from Ohio State is head and shoulders the top QB at this moment going into the draft.
I know the Bears like Fields and if that's how they are going to roll and not reset the Rookie QB clock at 36 months with a pretty empty surrounding cast then they better start looking at trade offers even if they aren't as lucrative as others have in the past. If they are set at QB they owe it to themselves to try and get a deal worked to move down.

What could the Bears get for Fields right now or on Draft Day? It's gotta be something nice.

I agree on Stroud. But he also had one of the best WR groups of all time. Fields has a bigger arm and can run. Stroud is the better QB. But are either of these guys a franchise guy? I would rather have Stroud in general. But if I'm the Bears, I would rather have Fields. They have nobody at WR. Who would Stroud throw it to? I honestly hope the Lions draft Stroud if he is there. Let him sit behind Goff for a year or two. But you know they are going defense with #6.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

I disagree Popeye, i think 1 QB stands head and shoulders above the rest and has the most upside of all the top 3-4-5 QB names that get tossed around. If it were the old days where Sam Bradford could be your #1 pick and get like $100M on Day 1(I'm exaggerating)). I don't think we would hear about more than 1-2 names being considered at the #1 QB taken off the board.

I would say Indy should seriously consider jumping the Texans but others feel differently and that's fine. Plenty of time to discuss, please don't take my post as a negative because I beleive the Colts are one of the few teams that has a shot until everyone starts coming to the same conclusions I have.

The media wants 3-4 QBs being hyped in the Top 5-10 picks, think about last year. It makes for better TV and radio if they have several fan bases believing the Savior is waiting for them in the Draft. Mahomes and Burrow just don't typically appear Year in and Year out but I do see 1 guy that did very well against a lot of the names that are going to be taken in the 1st Round, that's a good measuring stick in my book.

I always tell this story in the off season but one year in the 90s, a guy took a rag tag team of Golden Eagles into Doak Campbell at the height of the FSU/Miami glory days and knocked off the Seminoles and that was Brett Favre, competition and what players do vs other top selections, it matters to me.

Agree 100%. This draft class is interesting in that there isn't a consensus #1 pick and none of the QBs are once in a decade type of players. But 3 QBs could go in the top 10. This isn't like last year, which may have been one of the worst QB classes of all time. None of these top ranked QBs went to Liberty. They all will go in the first round.

And on that note and I make no apologies but I think Stroud from Ohio State is head and shoulders the top QB at this moment going into the draft.
I know the Bears like Fields and if that's how they are going to roll and not reset the Rookie QB clock at 36 months with a pretty empty surrounding cast then they better start looking at trade offers even if they aren't as lucrative as others have in the past. If they are set at QB they owe it to themselves to try and get a deal worked to move down.

What could the Bears get for Fields right now or on Draft Day? It's gotta be something nice.

I agree on Stroud. But he also had one of the best WR groups of all time. Fields has a bigger arm and can run. Stroud is the better QB. But are either of these guys a franchise guy? I would rather have Stroud in general. But if I'm the Bears, I would rather have Fields. They have nobody at WR. Who would Stroud throw it to? I honestly hope the Lions draft Stroud if he is there. Let him sit behind Goff for a year or two. But you know they are going defense with #6.

Good stuff, I'll piggyback on @Hot Sauce Guy
He's not a generational talent but very few are or could be if they are "generational"
Are the WRs he threw to staying in school because I don't see too many Buckeye WRs going high in the draft.
Very good points about being on a loaded team.
I know many are fans of Bryce Young, I just can't get past the size/weight and his long term NFL upside. Not rooting against him, enjoy watching him in college, not sure it works on next level. And Young is projected as a possible Top5, perhaps even #1 overall, that scares me.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

and sign a stop gap for a year.

That's a new and interesting concept for the Colts!!

 

[JohnnyU]

and sign a stop gap for a year.

That's a new and interesting concept for the Colts!!

Only this time they could have Hooker in the 2nd round. No matter who the Colts draft at QB in 2023 they aren't winning in 2023, so it doesn't really matter if they have a veteran this year as long as they have someone to groom for 2024. Hell, if they lose big in 2023 and have another top 5 pick in 2024, that isn't a bad thing when you're not winning in 2023.

 

[Skipdog77]

What kind of effect can we expect Steichen (and ol' Jim Bob) to have on Jonathan Taylor's workload?

 

[JohnnyU]

What kind of effect can we expect Steichen (and ol' Jim Bob) to have on Jonathan Taylor's workload?

Steichen will want to throw it, but that will depend on who the QB is. I think Taylor will get more in the passing game.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

I disagree Popeye, i think 1 QB stands head and shoulders above the rest and has the most upside of all the top 3-4-5 QB names that get tossed around. If it were the old days where Sam Bradford could be your #1 pick and get like $100M on Day 1(I'm exaggerating)). I don't think we would hear about more than 1-2 names being considered at the #1 QB taken off the board.

I would say Indy should seriously consider jumping the Texans but others feel differently and that's fine. Plenty of time to discuss, please don't take my post as a negative because I beleive the Colts are one of the few teams that has a shot until everyone starts coming to the same conclusions I have.

The media wants 3-4 QBs being hyped in the Top 5-10 picks, think about last year. It makes for better TV and radio if they have several fan bases believing the Savior is waiting for them in the Draft. Mahomes and Burrow just don't typically appear Year in and Year out but I do see 1 guy that did very well against a lot of the names that are going to be taken in the 1st Round, that's a good measuring stick in my book.

I always tell this story in the off season but one year in the 90s, a guy took a rag tag team of Golden Eagles into Doak Campbell at the height of the FSU/Miami glory days and knocked off the Seminoles and that was Brett Favre, competition and what players do vs other top selections, it matters to me.

Agree 100%. This draft class is interesting in that there isn't a consensus #1 pick and none of the QBs are once in a decade type of players. But 3 QBs could go in the top 10. This isn't like last year, which may have been one of the worst QB classes of all time. None of these top ranked QBs went to Liberty. They all will go in the first round.

And on that note and I make no apologies but I think Stroud from Ohio State is head and shoulders the top QB at this moment going into the draft.
I know the Bears like Fields and if that's how they are going to roll and not reset the Rookie QB clock at 36 months with a pretty empty surrounding cast then they better start looking at trade offers even if they aren't as lucrative as others have in the past. If they are set at QB they owe it to themselves to try and get a deal worked to move down.

What could the Bears get for Fields right now or on Draft Day? It's gotta be something nice.

I agree on Stroud. But he also had one of the best WR groups of all time. Fields has a bigger arm and can run. Stroud is the better QB. But are either of these guys a franchise guy? I would rather have Stroud in general. But if I'm the Bears, I would rather have Fields. They have nobody at WR. Who would Stroud throw it to? I honestly hope the Lions draft Stroud if he is there. Let him sit behind Goff for a year or two. But you know they are going defense with #6.

Good stuff, I'll piggyback on @Hot Sauce Guy
He's not a generational talent but very few are or could be if they are "generational"
Are the WRs he threw to staying in school because I don't see too many Buckeye WRs going high in the draft.
Very good points about being on a loaded team.
I know many are fans of Bryce Young, I just can't get past the size/weight and his long term NFL upside. Not rooting against him, enjoy watching him in college, not sure it works on next level. And Young is projected as a possible Top5, perhaps even #1 overall, that scares me.

Agree on Bryce. I hope he succeeds, but its risky taking a huge outlier (size) like that for any position in the first round, let alone QB.
I'm a Michigan fan and these recent OSU teams have some of the best WR that I have ever seen. And, as much as I have been bearish on Buckeye QBs historically, there is something special about Stroud. He has some of that Joe Burrow cool under pressure swagger and he's going to win at the next level. But he needs a team with a WR room that doesn't suck. I think a team moves up to select him.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Good hire - let's see who they land at 1.4. We don't need to trade up for any of these QBs.

I disagree Popeye, i think 1 QB stands head and shoulders above the rest and has the most upside of all the top 3-4-5 QB names that get tossed around. If it were the old days where Sam Bradford could be your #1 pick and get like $100M on Day 1(I'm exaggerating)). I don't think we would hear about more than 1-2 names being considered at the #1 QB taken off the board.

I would say Indy should seriously consider jumping the Texans but others feel differently and that's fine. Plenty of time to discuss, please don't take my post as a negative because I beleive the Colts are one of the few teams that has a shot until everyone starts coming to the same conclusions I have.

The media wants 3-4 QBs being hyped in the Top 5-10 picks, think about last year. It makes for better TV and radio if they have several fan bases believing the Savior is waiting for them in the Draft. Mahomes and Burrow just don't typically appear Year in and Year out but I do see 1 guy that did very well against a lot of the names that are going to be taken in the 1st Round, that's a good measuring stick in my book.

I always tell this story in the off season but one year in the 90s, a guy took a rag tag team of Golden Eagles into Doak Campbell at the height of the FSU/Miami glory days and knocked off the Seminoles and that was Brett Favre, competition and what players do vs other top selections, it matters to me.

Agree 100%. This draft class is interesting in that there isn't a consensus #1 pick and none of the QBs are once in a decade type of players. But 3 QBs could go in the top 10. This isn't like last year, which may have been one of the worst QB classes of all time. None of these top ranked QBs went to Liberty. They all will go in the first round.

And on that note and I make no apologies but I think Stroud from Ohio State is head and shoulders the top QB at this moment going into the draft.
I know the Bears like Fields and if that's how they are going to roll and not reset the Rookie QB clock at 36 months with a pretty empty surrounding cast then they better start looking at trade offers even if they aren't as lucrative as others have in the past. If they are set at QB they owe it to themselves to try and get a deal worked to move down.

What could the Bears get for Fields right now or on Draft Day? It's gotta be something nice.

I agree on Stroud. But he also had one of the best WR groups of all time. Fields has a bigger arm and can run. Stroud is the better QB. But are either of these guys a franchise guy? I would rather have Stroud in general. But if I'm the Bears, I would rather have Fields. They have nobody at WR. Who would Stroud throw it to? I honestly hope the Lions draft Stroud if he is there. Let him sit behind Goff for a year or two. But you know they are going defense with #6.

Good stuff, I'll piggyback on @Hot Sauce Guy
He's not a generational talent but very few are or could be if they are "generational"
Are the WRs he threw to staying in school because I don't see too many Buckeye WRs going high in the draft.
Very good points about being on a loaded team.
I know many are fans of Bryce Young, I just can't get past the size/weight and his long term NFL upside. Not rooting against him, enjoy watching him in college, not sure it works on next level. And Young is projected as a possible Top5, perhaps even #1 overall, that scares me.

Not really the right thread for this, but yes on the WR. Wilson and Olave went rd 1 last year. JSN is going rd 1 this year and Marvin Harrison Jr is better than Wilson and will go top 10 of next years draft.