"Hello Green Bay? This is Seattle..." (1 Viewer)

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

John: "Hi Ted. We're in a pickle here with Jackson, as you may have noticed. What are you asking for Flynn?"

Ted: "Well, I don't think he's available anymore, John. We're looking to repeat and we need an experienced backup to Rodgers in case..."

John: "How about our first round pick next year?"

(brief pause)

Ted: "That's a pretty good offer, but again, we're pretty late in the offseason to..."

John: "And we'll throw in our 4th-- conditional, of course-- along with Whitehurst if you want him."

(long pause)

Ted: "Well John, I think we might be able to do that."

Make. The. Call.

 

[ScottyDog]

No freakin' way. We are happy with Tavaris and his "ability" to get us Luck or Landry Jones for only a 1st rounder next year. Thanks for the offer though.

 

[Sabertooth]

John: "Hi Ted. We're in a pickle here with Jackson, as you may have noticed. What are you asking for Flynn?"

Ted: "Well, I don't think he's available anymore, John. We're looking to repeat and we need an experienced backup to Rodgers in case..."

John: "How about our first round pick next year?"

(brief pause)

Ted: "That's a pretty good offer, but again, we're pretty late in the offseason to..."

John: "And we'll throw in our 4th-- conditional, of course-- along with Whitehurst if you want him."

(long pause)

Ted: "Well John, I think we might be able to do that. But we'll give you a 5th to keep Whitehurst"

Make. The. Call.

Fixed.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

John: "Hi Ted. We're in a pickle here with Jackson, as you may have noticed. What are you asking for Flynn?"

Ted: "Well, I don't think he's available anymore, John. We're looking to repeat and we need an experienced backup to Rodgers in case..."

John: "How about our first round pick next year?"

(brief pause)

Ted: "That's a pretty good offer, but again, we're pretty late in the offseason to..."

John: "And we'll throw in our 4th-- conditional, of course-- along with Whitehurst if you want him."

(long pause)

Ted: "Well John, I think we might be able to do that. But we'll give you a 5th to keep Whitehurst"

Make. The. Call.

Fixed.

 

[Sweet Love]

Where's the guy who was obnoxiously bullish about the Hawks chances this year? Can't remember his handle, but he was leading the charge on each FA acquisition thread for Seattle that was started this past month.

 

[FUBAR]

Fynn worth a 1st? I don't see it.

But, the last Green Bay backup QB to hit Seattle worked out alright.

 

[Abraham]

Uh, no.

Luck, Jones, and (maybe) Barkley will grade out higher then this year's group.

 

[Sabertooth]

Uh, no.Luck, Jones, and (maybe) Barkley will grade out higher then this year's group.

This is all I heard last year. Now NEXT YEAR is going to be this epic class. I doubt it.

 

[Pipes]

Yeah no way does Seattle part with a top 5 pick for Flynn.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Fynn worth a 1st? I don't see it.But, the last Green Bay backup QB to hit Seattle worked out alright.

Flynn and Hasselback are similar players, though I would argue Flynn is more prepared to be a starter at this point than Hasselback was. And he's apprenticed under a solid QB and coaching staff. Hasselback had the coaching staff, but Favre (as has been leaked over the years now) wanted really nothing to do with mentoring.Flynn will be a solid starter wherever he ends up. Seattle needs him now.

 

[datonn]

Had a guy in one of my leagues giving me the business after TJax signed in Seattle, after I had told him most of the off-season to cut dead weight (aka TJax) off his roster to free up cap space in our contract league. To which I essentially told him: "No, you don't understand. The Colts could announce that Peyton Manning has "ball cancer," while also simultaneously announcing that they had signed Jackson to become the new face of their franchise at QB for the coming decade, and TJax STILL probably wasn't worth the roster spot." What's worse is that this other owner is also a Vikings homer (like me), and saw all the things TJax couldn't do while on the field in Minnesota pre-Favre.

TJax flashes just enough to tease you (and coaches/GMs)...but get him into game situations, where he needs to make quick reads/decisions, and it isn't pretty. FWIW though, I have watched the first two SEA preseason games, and I thought Whitehurst was clearly the better QB of the two. And that isn't saying much.

 

[Sabertooth]

Yeah no way does Seattle part with a top 5 pick for Flynn.

Um, this team beat the defending champs in the playoffs last season. No way they consider themselves to be in the Suck for Luck sweepstakes. If a coach thinks like that, he won't be coaching long.

 

[Abraham]

Uh, no.Luck, Jones, and (maybe) Barkley will grade out higher then this year's group.

This is all I heard last year. Now NEXT YEAR is going to be this epic class. I doubt it.

Really? IRRC, the only QBs getting hyped a year ago were Locker and Mallet. Locker didn't improve his accuracy and Mallet had some off-field issues. I don't remember anyone talking about Newton, Gabbert, or Ponder as top-tier prospects.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

The call needs to be made, I agreee, but not for a potential high 1st.

I would offer a 3rd and a 4th as starting point for the negotiations.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Graham Harrell would be better than Jackson.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

With the progress that Graham Harrell has made, TT might actually trade Flynn.

My guess is a 2nd and a 5th.

 

[FF Ninja]

Where's the guy who was obnoxiously bullish about the Hawks chances this year? Can't remember his handle, but he was leading the charge on each FA acquisition thread for Seattle that was started this past month.

I think his handle was ImTheScientist or something like that. Very obnoxious.

 

[massraider]

Fynn worth a 1st? I don't see it.But, the last Green Bay backup QB to hit Seattle worked out alright.

Flynn and Hasselback are similar players, though I would argue Flynn is more prepared to be a starter at this point than Hasselback was. And he's apprenticed under a solid QB and coaching staff. Hasselback had the coaching staff, but Favre (as has been leaked over the years now) wanted really nothing to do with mentoring.Flynn will be a solid starter wherever he ends up. Seattle needs him now.

You are right. Maybe they should ask for two first round picks.

 

[trader jake]

Any team wanting Matt Flynn would have to drastically overpay for him right now. The Packers obviously have a win now team and there's no need to risk being one Aaron Rodgers concussion away from losing two or three games.

 

[Pipes]

Yeah no way does Seattle part with a top 5 pick for Flynn.

Um, this team beat the defending champs in the playoffs last season. No way they consider themselves to be in the Suck for Luck sweepstakes. If a coach thinks like that, he won't be coaching long.

But this is a completely different team than last year's 7-9 version. The division is better and without a QB Seattle is a 5 or 6 win team at best. Of course GM's don't anticipate having a terrible year that doesn't mean they'd seriously consider trading a 1st rounders for a unproven talent like Flynn. Even the QB desperate cards didn't part with a 1st for a guy who has a more proven track record than Flynn.

 

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I am so glad my team doesn't throw in the towel on seasons before they even start.

 

[MarcO]

I realize how ridiculous it sounds, but Whitehurst has looked good in the preseason.

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Yeah no way does Seattle part with a top 5 pick for Flynn.

Um, this team beat the defending champs in the playoffs last season. No way they consider themselves to be in the Suck for Luck sweepstakes. If a coach thinks like that, he won't be coaching long.

But this is a completely different team than last year's 7-9 version. The division is better and without a QB Seattle is a 5 or 6 win team at best. Of course GM's don't anticipate having a terrible year that doesn't mean they'd seriously consider trading a 1st rounders for a unproven talent like Flynn. Even the QB desperate cards didn't part with a 1st for a guy who has a more proven track record than Flynn.

"Unproven talent"? The guy almost beat the Patriots on the road in a real game last year. Maybe Luck could, too, but you know what u have in Flynn far more than the next possible Ryan Leaf.

 

[zilladog]

And to think, it maybe could have been avoided if they just drafted Mallet, who, IMO is the best qb of the class.

Fwiw, I think the call should also be made. Also to NE. I doubt they would part with Mallet, but Hoyer is a good prospect too and a second in 2012 might get that done.

Or better yet, Just go with whitehurst, who they already overpaid to get.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Where's the guy who was obnoxiously bullish about the Hawks chances this year? Can't remember his handle, but he was leading the charge on each FA acquisition thread for Seattle that was started this past month.

I think his handle was ImTheScientist or something like that. Very obnoxious.

Oh little ninja you have so much to learn. Hawks are sucking for luck. Get your story right bro.LEG SWEPT

 

[Sabertooth]

Maybe the Packers should think about what happened when they traded Hass away. They moved up 7 spots in the draft and selected......drumroll......Jamal Reynolds.

The Hawks got Hass and .....drumroll.......All Pro Steve Hutchinson.

Packers = fail on that.

Although subsequently trading Fred Vinson for Ahman Green worked out.

 

[sho nuff]

The call needs to be made, I agreee, but not for a potential high 1st.I would offer a 3rd and a 4th as starting point for the negotiations.

And get laughed at. They could get a 3rd compensatory for him if he goes in fa...why give him up for so little now?

 

[zilladog]

Why not offer a first? I get its a steep price but the number 1 most important thing a team needs is a capable quarterback. If they believe in Flynn they shouldn't hesitate. Ask the dolphins what that's like. They've been building "from the inside out" for years and look where its gotten them. It starts with the QB.

The question is...is Flynn for real?

 

[Pipes]

Yeah no way does Seattle part with a top 5 pick for Flynn.

Um, this team beat the defending champs in the playoffs last season. No way they consider themselves to be in the Suck for Luck sweepstakes. If a coach thinks like that, he won't be coaching long.

But this is a completely different team than last year's 7-9 version. The division is better and without a QB Seattle is a 5 or 6 win team at best. Of course GM's don't anticipate having a terrible year that doesn't mean they'd seriously consider trading a 1st rounders for a unproven talent like Flynn. Even the QB desperate cards didn't part with a 1st for a guy who has a more proven track record than Flynn.

"Unproven talent"? The guy almost beat the Patriots on the road in a real game last year. Maybe Luck could, too, but you know what u have in Flynn far more than the next possible Ryan Leaf.

Yes he's unproven since that's been his only career start. Not one GM is going to trade a 1st round pick for a guy who was drafted in the 7th round just a couple of years ago. Luck could be the next Ryan Leaf or he could be the next Peyton Manning who knows. But a GM isn't going to be fired for drafting Andrew Luck. I'd love for the Packers to get a 1st round pick for Flynn but the chances of this happening are somewhere between slim and none...and it's much closer to none.

 

[Adebisi]

A 1st?

 

[Andrew Garda]

Uh, no.Luck, Jones, and (maybe) Barkley will grade out higher then this year's group.

This is all I heard last year. Now NEXT YEAR is going to be this epic class. I doubt it.

Not an epic class, but a much better crop then this year's. Most of the QBs in the 2011 class don't get drafted as high as they did almost any other year.

 

[eakfootball]

sounds like a hopeful Pack fan. I would be surprised if they got a 3rd for him.

 

[Captain Hook]

I'd love for the Packers to get a 1st round pick for Flynn but the chances of this happening are somewhere between slim and none...and it's much closer to none.

This is so WRONG. The Cardinals traded a 1st AND DRC for Kolb who hadn't showed much more than Flynn.....and IMO Flynn is a better potential quarterback....so there ARE teams that would offer a 1st.....but I doubt that the Packers - looking to repeat would deal Rodgers' backup....at least for now....but if they were inclined to do so they would definitely be happy tucking away a first round pick

 

[Adebisi]

I'd love for the Packers to get a 1st round pick for Flynn but the chances of this happening are somewhere between slim and none...and it's much closer to none.

This is so WRONG. The Cardinals traded a 1st AND DRC for Kolb who hadn't showed much more than Flynn.....and IMO Flynn is a better potential quarterback....so there ARE teams that would offer a 1st.....but I doubt that the Packers - looking to repeat would deal Rodgers' backup....at least for now....but if they were inclined to do so they would definitely be happy tucking away a first round pick

Well, if it's your opinion that Flynn is a better potential QB than Kolb, then who are NFL GM's to argue with that logic?

 

[Couch Potato]

Wow, reading this thread, Flynn sounds pretty awesome. Maybe GB should trade Rodgers instead and keep the Flynnster.

 

[Couch Potato]

LEG SWEPT

This is so dopey it makes me every time. Never gets old.

 

[RBM]

Where's the guy who was obnoxiously bullish about the Hawks chances this year? Can't remember his handle, but he was leading the charge on each FA acquisition thread for Seattle that was started this past month.

I think his handle was ImTheScientist or something like that. Very obnoxious.

Was wondering about that guy too

 

[Sabertooth]

sounds like a hopeful Pack fan. I would be surprised if they got a 3rd for him.

I doubt they'd let him slide for that. Judging by what Hass got in FA, he'll sign a nice contract somewhere and the Packers will get awarded a compensatory pick for him. Probably a 4th or 5th. I think with the concussion rules, they'd just as soon wait a year and drop 60 picks in the 2013 draft.

 

[ChainsawU]

Wow, reading this thread, Flynn sounds pretty awesome. Maybe GB should trade Rodgers instead and keep the Flynnster.

Matt Flynn nearly perfect

Published Sat Aug 20 12:44:38 a.m. ET 2011

(KFFL) Green Bay Packers QB Matt Flynn completed five of his six passes for 141 yards, including a 97-yard touchdown to WR Chastin West. Flynn has been having a strong camp, and he has looked good in both preseason games and reportedly is having a stronger camp than starter QB Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Steelfan7]

Wow, reading this thread, Flynn sounds pretty awesome. Maybe GB should trade Rodgers instead and keep the Flynnster.

Matt Flynn nearly perfect

Published Sat Aug 20 12:44:38 a.m. ET 2011

(KFFL) Green Bay Packers QB Matt Flynn completed five of his six passes for 141 yards, including a 97-yard touchdown to WR Chastin West. Flynn has been having a strong camp, and he has looked good in both preseason games and reportedly is having a stronger camp than starter QB Aaron Rodgers.

I hope this doesn't start an epic thread on how much better the Pack would be with Flynn than Rodgers ...ala Favre vs Rodgers thread.

 

[Pipes]

I'd love for the Packers to get a 1st round pick for Flynn but the chances of this happening are somewhere between slim and none...and it's much closer to none.

This is so WRONG. The Cardinals traded a 1st AND DRC for Kolb who hadn't showed much more than Flynn.....and IMO Flynn is a better potential quarterback....so there ARE teams that would offer a 1st.....but I doubt that the Packers - looking to repeat would deal Rodgers' backup....at least for now....but if they were inclined to do so they would definitely be happy tucking away a first round pick

Try again it was a 2nd and DRC for Kolb...not a 1st. Huge difference there. Again anyone thinking the Packers are going to get a 1st for Flynn are crazy.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Yeah no way does Seattle part with a top 5 pick for Flynn.

Um, this team beat the defending champs in the playoffs last season. No way they consider themselves to be in the Suck for Luck sweepstakes. If a coach thinks like that, he won't be coaching long.

But this is a completely different team than last year's 7-9 version. The division is better and without a QB Seattle is a 5 or 6 win team at best. Of course GM's don't anticipate having a terrible year that doesn't mean they'd seriously consider trading a 1st rounders for a unproven talent like Flynn. Even the QB desperate cards didn't part with a 1st for a guy who has a more proven track record than Flynn.

"Unproven talent"? The guy almost beat the Patriots on the road in a real game last year. Maybe Luck could, too, but you know what u have in Flynn far more than the next possible Ryan Leaf.

Rob Johnson had a good game too once in Jacksonville, how did his career turn out after getting traded

 

[Sabertooth]

Yeah no way does Seattle part with a top 5 pick for Flynn.

Um, this team beat the defending champs in the playoffs last season. No way they consider themselves to be in the Suck for Luck sweepstakes. If a coach thinks like that, he won't be coaching long.

But this is a completely different team than last year's 7-9 version. The division is better and without a QB Seattle is a 5 or 6 win team at best. Of course GM's don't anticipate having a terrible year that doesn't mean they'd seriously consider trading a 1st rounders for a unproven talent like Flynn. Even the QB desperate cards didn't part with a 1st for a guy who has a more proven track record than Flynn.

"Unproven talent"? The guy almost beat the Patriots on the road in a real game last year. Maybe Luck could, too, but you know what u have in Flynn far more than the next possible Ryan Leaf.

Rob Johnson had a good game too once in Jacksonville, how did his career turn out after getting traded

The more relevant question would be "what did he get traded for?"

 

[mad sweeney]

Where's the guy who was obnoxiously bullish about the Hawks chances this year? Can't remember his handle, but he was leading the charge on each FA acquisition thread for Seattle that was started this past month.

Dunno, but I'm not sorry he isn't around. I wish he was a Rams or 9ers fan alias but I think he's just an annoying Seahawks fan. Between him and Cacksman, the Hawks fans are poorly represented.That said, I just don't understand the Luck comments. Seattle isn't even the worst looking team in the NFCW, much less the league. They're improved from last year, there are plenty of worse teams out there. Not that I think they're the faves either, I'm going with the Rams as the best chance to win the division. Pete tried trading for a backup already, if he goes after Luck it will be through trade, not ignominy.

 

[ready5]

Where's the guy who was obnoxiously bullish about the Hawks chances this year? Can't remember his handle, but he was leading the charge on each FA acquisition thread for Seattle that was started this past month.

I think his handle was ImTheScientist or something like that. Very obnoxious.

lol, and be sure to ask him about cobra kai

 

[ready5]

Oh little ninja you have so much to learn. Hawks are sucking for luck. Get your story right bro.LEG SWEPT

oh wait, there it is.

This is so dopey it makes me every time. Never gets old.

um, yes it does.

 

[Instinctive]

I'd love for the Packers to get a 1st round pick for Flynn but the chances of this happening are somewhere between slim and none...and it's much closer to none.

This is so WRONG. The Cardinals traded a 1st AND DRC for Kolb who hadn't showed much more than Flynn.....and IMO Flynn is a better potential quarterback....so there ARE teams that would offer a 1st.....but I doubt that the Packers - looking to repeat would deal Rodgers' backup....at least for now....but if they were inclined to do so they would definitely be happy tucking away a first round pick

Try again it was a 2nd and DRC for Kolb...not a 1st. Huge difference there. Again anyone thinking the Packers are going to get a 1st for Flynn are crazy.

You mean former first round pick and still highly regarded DRC?

 

[I Love Your Fantasy Team]

Where's the guy who was obnoxiously bullish about the Hawks chances this year? Can't remember his handle, but he was leading the charge on each FA acquisition thread for Seattle that was started this past month.

I think his handle was ImTheScientist or something like that. Very obnoxious.

 

[Donnybrook]

A 1st?

It's not like Pat fans weren't convinced they were getting a 1st or more for Matt Cassel.

 

[LHUCKS]

Just an FYI...high draft picks are worth a lot more now with the new rookie salary pay scale.

You'll hardly ever see first rounders traded anymore. Even second and third rounders wont be swapped very often.