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[Peter Lemonjello]

I know much has been discussed about the decline in production from DWill and Stewart this year. It got me to thinking if there have been other players that went from fantasy stalwarts to nonfactors as quickly as these 2 guys based on seemingly nothing other than offensive gameplan. These 2 have either individually or in combination, put up RB1 numbers for several years now but are basically unstartable in most formats this year. Neither had injury contract holdout. They have simply been phased out of the gameplan.

 

[FavreCo]

I can't think of anyone. The biggest problem is that the coaching staff found the Fox/Davidson playbook for 2010 and not 2008 when the 2 were unstoppable. Instead of letting each RB play the whole series, like in 2008, they went with letting each player shuffle in and out constantly thus neither gets a rythym.

 

[packersfan]

It got me to thinking if there have been other players that went from fantasy stalwarts to nonfactors as quickly as these 2 guys based on seemingly nothing other than offensive gameplan.

Eric Decker comes to mind.

 

[Cenobite]

I know much has been discussed about the decline in production from DWill and Stewart this year. It got me to thinking if there have been other players that went from fantasy stalwarts to nonfactors as quickly as these 2 guys based on seemingly nothing other than offensive gameplan. These 2 have either individually or in combination, put up RB1 numbers for several years now but are basically unstartable in most formats this year. Neither had injury contract holdout. They have simply been phased out of the gameplan.

Boldin's production has dropped dramatically due to the Ravens' game plan.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I know much has been discussed about the decline in production from DWill and Stewart this year. It got me to thinking if there have been other players that went from fantasy stalwarts to nonfactors as quickly as these 2 guys based on seemingly nothing other than offensive gameplan. These 2 have either individually or in combination, put up RB1 numbers for several years now but are basically unstartable in most formats this year. Neither had injury contract holdout. They have simply been phased out of the gameplan.

Boldin's production has dropped dramatically due to the Ravens' game plan.

couldn't be more wrong.2010 -Pass: 491Rush: 4872011 - Pass: 501Rush: 370

 

[thatguy]

I know much has been discussed about the decline in production from DWill and Stewart this year. It got me to thinking if there have been other players that went from fantasy stalwarts to nonfactors as quickly as these 2 guys based on seemingly nothing other than offensive gameplan. These 2 have either individually or in combination, put up RB1 numbers for several years now but are basically unstartable in most formats this year. Neither had injury contract holdout. They have simply been phased out of the gameplan.

Boldin's production has dropped dramatically due to the Ravens' game plan.

couldn't be more wrong.2010 -Pass: 491Rush: 4872011 - Pass: 501Rush: 370

He could be referring to how his targets have declined this season (to clarify, I mean in season, not from last season to this season)...First 9 games: 82 targets, 9.1/gameLast 5 games: 24 targets, 4.8/gameGranted, he wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire through the first 9 games, but he was at least a low end WR2. The past 5 weeks he's been unstartable.

 

[Chaka]

I know much has been discussed about the decline in production from DWill and Stewart this year. It got me to thinking if there have been other players that went from fantasy stalwarts to nonfactors as quickly as these 2 guys based on seemingly nothing other than offensive gameplan. These 2 have either individually or in combination, put up RB1 numbers for several years now but are basically unstartable in most formats this year. Neither had injury contract holdout. They have simply been phased out of the gameplan.

Boldin's production has dropped dramatically due to the Ravens' game plan.

couldn't be more wrong.2010 -Pass: 491Rush: 4872011 - Pass: 501Rush: 370

He could be referring to how his targets have declined this season (to clarify, I mean in season, not from last season to this season)...First 9 games: 82 targets, 9.1/gameLast 5 games: 24 targets, 4.8/gameGranted, he wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire through the first 9 games, but he was at least a low end WR2. The past 5 weeks he's been unstartable.

It was smart to change their game plan. They were 6-3 in their first 9 (not bad) and 4-1 in their last 5. Ray Rice averaged 8.6 carries in their first three losses even though the most they were ever down at halftime was 12 points, that isn't exactly a break out the hurry up offense situation. Getting 5 carries @ Seattle was the height of stupidity and something needed to change.

 

[Warrior]

I know much has been discussed about the decline in production from DWill and Stewart this year. It got me to thinking if there have been other players that went from fantasy stalwarts to nonfactors as quickly as these 2 guys based on seemingly nothing other than offensive gameplan. These 2 have either individually or in combination, put up RB1 numbers for several years now but are basically unstartable in most formats this year. Neither had injury contract holdout. They have simply been phased out of the gameplan.

Boldin's production has dropped dramatically due to the Ravens' game plan.

couldn't be more wrong.2010 -Pass: 491Rush: 4872011 - Pass: 501Rush: 370

He could be referring to how his targets have declined this season (to clarify, I mean in season, not from last season to this season)...First 9 games: 82 targets, 9.1/gameLast 5 games: 24 targets, 4.8/gameGranted, he wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire through the first 9 games, but he was at least a low end WR2. The past 5 weeks he's been unstartable.

It was smart to change their game plan. They were 6-3 in their first 9 (not bad) and 4-1 in their last 5. Ray Rice averaged 8.6 carries in their first three losses even though the most they were ever down at halftime was 12 points, that isn't exactly a break out the hurry up offense situation. Getting 5 carries @ Seattle was the height of stupidity and something needed to change.

Who said it wasn't smart?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I hate to say it because I face a team that has him in the playoffs but Williams could turn hero again in week 16 vs the Bucs.

 

[Chaka]

I know much has been discussed about the decline in production from DWill and Stewart this year. It got me to thinking if there have been other players that went from fantasy stalwarts to nonfactors as quickly as these 2 guys based on seemingly nothing other than offensive gameplan. These 2 have either individually or in combination, put up RB1 numbers for several years now but are basically unstartable in most formats this year. Neither had injury contract holdout. They have simply been phased out of the gameplan.

Boldin's production has dropped dramatically due to the Ravens' game plan.

couldn't be more wrong.2010 -Pass: 491Rush: 4872011 - Pass: 501Rush: 370

He could be referring to how his targets have declined this season (to clarify, I mean in season, not from last season to this season)...First 9 games: 82 targets, 9.1/gameLast 5 games: 24 targets, 4.8/gameGranted, he wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire through the first 9 games, but he was at least a low end WR2. The past 5 weeks he's been unstartable.

It was smart to change their game plan. They were 6-3 in their first 9 (not bad) and 4-1 in their last 5. Ray Rice averaged 8.6 carries in their first three losses even though the most they were ever down at halftime was 12 points, that isn't exactly a break out the hurry up offense situation. Getting 5 carries @ Seattle was the height of stupidity and something needed to change.

Who said it wasn't smart?

I don't think anyone did, but I haven't been following that closely. Does my post require that someone said it was smart to marginalize the running game?

 

[duaneok66]

still trying to find a valid argument as to why Deangelo was re-signed by the Panthers. That money should have been spent on the defense - they would still have Stewart and Goodson.

 

[sports_fan]

still trying to find a valid argument as to why Deangelo was re-signed by the Panthers. That money should have been spent on the defense - they would still have Stewart and Goodson.

Only reasonable explanation is that they didn't expect Newton to be so good so soon. When Newton started lighting it up they had to open up the playbook for him. If they had known he Newton was going to be an uber stud, they wouldn't have been so aggressive in resigning DeAngelo.

 

[Bankerguy]

Larry Johnson?

 

[rickyg]

still trying to find a valid argument as to why Deangelo was re-signed by the Panthers. That money should have been spent on the defense - they would still have Stewart and Goodson.

Only reasonable explanation is that they didn't expect Newton to be so good so soon. When Newton started lighting it up they had to open up the playbook for him. If they had known he Newton was going to be an uber stud, they wouldn't have been so aggressive in resigning DeAngelo.

Bingo. But can you blame them? NOONE foresaw newtons stud production coming. Just imagine if all of cams rushing Tds went to deangelo and Stewart. They'd both be every week high end rb2 bordering in rb1

 

[Shutout]

Its been years ago but Torry Holt and david Boston were a couple of guys that had big years and then completely flatlined, never to return. Holt obviously was older but had also had a very steady track record until that point.

If these two RBs dont get split up, I don't know what to do with them.

 

[MindCrime]

Shaun Alexander. From 5.1 YPC to 3.6 in one year.

 

[BassNBrew]

still trying to find a valid argument as to why Deangelo was re-signed by the Panthers. That money should have been spent on the defense - they would still have Stewart and Goodson.

Only reasonable explanation is that they didn't expect Newton to be so good so soon. When Newton started lighting it up they had to open up the playbook for him. If they had known he Newton was going to be an uber stud, they wouldn't have been so aggressive in resigning DeAngelo.

This is the biggest reason.Also factor in the health of the RBs. Stewart has never been healthy enough to practice prior to this year. Goodson is also prone to fumblitis, Williams and Stewart are secure the ball like gold in Fort Knox.http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb

 

[thatguy]

Larry Johnson?

Good call. Also, Daunte Culpepper.

 

[thatguy]

Also, back in the day, Darryl Jackson. And to a lesser extent Koren Robinson.

 

[thatguy]

Javon Walker.

 

[thatguy]

Steve Slaton. (after their respective rookie seasons, a lot of people had Slaton ranked ahead of CJ)

Domanick Davis (Williams)

 

[thatguy]

Roy Williams: 82-1310-7 in 2006

Has been worthless ever since.

 

[thatguy]

And on the IDP side, Demeco Ryans... What a fall from grace for this kid.

His was gradual, he followed up his monster rookie season as the LB1 with a solid sophomore campaign in which he finished LB3. Then two straight very useful LB14 finishes. Injured last season in which he was on pace to once again finish as a solid LB2 (somewhere in the 12-20 range probably). And now this season, he has done absolutely nothing.

 

[Fred Lane]

For this year, I think Austin Collie went from overperforming last year, to underperforming this year...

 

[thatguy]

For this year, I think Austin Collie went from overperforming last year, to underperforming this year...

I think of we're speaking just this season, the player who has probably burned owners the most is Michael Vick.I know he was a first round pick in a lot of leagues, and further, probably the first QB off the board in quite a few as well, with owners expecting a repeat of last season's amazing performance. All they could see was that he was the top scorer despite missing, I think, 3 games, and only playing in one half of another game. Well, that didn't work out so well. That's not to say when he's played, he's been awful. In fact, he is still a top 10 QB on a PPG basis. But that massive edge that those who drafted him were hoping for just never materialized, and I'm sure the trickle down effect that it had on getting weaker players at other positions led to a lot of disappointing seasons for a lot of disappointed owners.