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High School/Middle School potential walkout (1 Viewer)

Does having support from the parents increase the 'power' of the walk-out because it shows the Schoo

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I can assure one thing...if my kids were still in middle or HS they would not walk out for this.

They just interviewed a bunch of HS kids in Michigan where DeVos is from and they had no idea who she was.

 
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Ilov80s said:
Depends. Some schools won't let you make up work for when you are suspended. If you miss a test that can absolutely cause you to fail a class. 
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it would take a really, really strict teacher/principal with a strong desire to #### some kid up to fail them instead of offering the opportunity to re-take the test

if not for altruistic reasons then for reasons of not wanting the school's numbers to look bad so that they don't get screwed out of funding.

hell, i went to catholic school.. full of ####### derelicts and entitled pricks whose parents threatened and cajoled junior's way through school. "punishment", as it were, was doled out to those whose parents didn't wield some local influence, who didn't donate and/or who couldn't otherwise strong arm school in some way.

there was a kid a couple years ahead of me who, when he showed up, was drunk or high as balls.. who got the school raided.. every kid's locker rifled.. because he was a mid-level drug dealer selling both at school and in the school lot.  he graduated just fine. his parents are rich as ####.. so... different playing fields for different kids.

 
Meh. Isn't open defiance of authority (and the associated risk) the basis of protest? If there is nothing on the line, the protest is more of a happy hour than anything else. 

 
Da Guru said:
I can assure one thing...if my kids were still in middle or HS they would not walk out for this.

They just interviewed a bunch of HS kids in Michigan where DeVos is from and they had no idea who she was.
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How many of the retro kids picked This picture out of a picture line up when asked to identify DeVos? 

 
Ilov80s said:
It's funny that everyone knows so much about all these people they have never met.  Replace the word "kids" in all these posts with "blacks", "women", "Jews" and you might see how awful these takes are. Don't think teens don't see the way so many adults discriminate against them openly. It's a bad look. 

If the teachers planted the idea and pushed the idea, that's wrong. 
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Except, we have all been kids.  We have a pretty good idea of the adolescent mindset based on experience.  I have never been black...or a woman...or a Jew.  I won't pretend to know their perspective.   

 
I just checked our school board policy.  There is a specific provision for any non-authorized assembly that is detrimental to the operation of the school on school grounds.  The penalties appear to be anything from unexcused absence to long term suspension depending on how the assembly is conducted.  Looks like only bullying, violence and vandalism would lead to a long term suspension.  If any teachers were involved in the assembly (on school grounds) they would face a hearing with the superintendent and possibly the school board if deemed necessary.

 
Galileo said:
Except, we have all been kids.  We have a pretty good idea of the adolescent mindset based on experience.  I have never been black...or a woman...or a Jew.  I won't pretend to know their perspective.   
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Yeah all those adolescents think the same. 

 
mr. furley said:
it would take a really, really strict teacher/principal with a strong desire to #### some kid up to fail them instead of offering the opportunity to re-take the test

if not for altruistic reasons then for reasons of not wanting the school's numbers to look bad so that they don't get screwed out of funding.

hell, i went to catholic school.. full of ####### derelicts and entitled pricks whose parents threatened and cajoled junior's way through school. "punishment", as it were, was doled out to those whose parents didn't wield some local influence, who didn't donate and/or who couldn't otherwise strong arm school in some way.

there was a kid a couple years ahead of me who, when he showed up, was drunk or high as balls.. who got the school raided.. every kid's locker rifled.. because he was a mid-level drug dealer selling both at school and in the school lot.  he graduated just fine. his parents are rich as ####.. so... different playing fields for different kids.
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I know of a couple a schools that don't allow work missed due to a suspension to be made up. I went to Catholic School as well. We got away with murder compared to the public school kids I teach.

 
Galileo said:
Never said that...but come on, you're a teacher.  You are not being honest with yourself if you don't think there are common trends in the way adolescents think. 
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Sure there are, but I also know a lot of kids that are very interested in politics/current events. They aren't super knowledgeable because they are kids, but it's genuine. We do research projects where kids can literally write about  any topic so long as it can be researched. Sure, lots of kids choose video games or basketball because that's what they like or it will be easy. Also a lot of kids choose topics like Civil Rights, criminal justice issues, poverty, environmental issues, etc. The current generation of students puts my generation to shame. They are still kids and make mistakes, but they blow me away with how mature they are.

 
jabarony said:
What kind of parent would support this anyway? The general population anyway doesn't follow most of this stuff. And 16 year olds or younger even less so. These kids just want to get out of class.
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This is being orchestrated by anti-Trump teachers and parents.  Pathetic.

 
Johnny Bing said:
Because I wouldn't use my kids for a political agenda. Their minds are far too immature to understand what is going on.
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I guess I disagree with #2.  Of course it depends on what age we are talking about.  Middle Schoolers I might agree to an extent, but not if we are talking HS seniors. 

Love the assumption that this is coming from the parents/teachers too.  In my mind I pictured a scenario where my kid came up to me and said they were going to participate in this without me knowing about it in advance and how I would handle it. 

 
BowieMercs said:
Meh. Isn't open defiance of authority (and the associated risk) the basis of protest? If there is nothing on the line, the protest is more of a happy hour than anything else. 
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Threads like these are usually pretty entertaining because posters reveal their innate reaction to civil disobedience. Disobedience of any kind enrages some and encourages others. I'm pretty energized by civil disobedience.

Colleges aren't much inclined to turn away politically active students. Chances are that the people who run the admissions departments got into a little trouble themselves once in a while. Getting thrown out for fighting or bullying might hurt your chances of getting in because nobody wants to have ### holes on campus but walking out of class to protest political stupidity is pretty much a non-negative issue.

 
roadkill1292 said:
Threads like these are usually pretty entertaining because posters reveal their innate reaction to civil disobedience. Disobedience of any kind enrages some and encourages others. I'm pretty energized by civil disobedience.

Colleges aren't much inclined to turn away politically active students. Chances are that the people who run the admissions departments got into a little trouble themselves once in a while. Getting thrown out for fighting or bullying might hurt your chances of getting in because nobody wants to have ### holes on campus but walking out of class to protest political stupidity is pretty much a non-negative issue.
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Well it certainly makes the protesters feel better about themselves for doing something. With the instant news cycles we have today, it is absolutely more than just symbolic as others may be encouraged to speak out, even if the message is poorly defined. 

 
I should also add to my post above that, if your daddy has lots of money and is willing to splash some of it around above and beyond the tuition, just about any kind of doofus with a HS diploma can get into a private school in this country.

 
I am surprised by how much my 4th grader and all his teammates talked about Hillary and Trump all of last year.  I have no idea where they pick up all their information but it was a good surprise they new what was going on.  Could it have been teachers with an agenda?  Maybe  Could it have been from just having the news on at home at night?  Maybe could have been a lot of things.

 
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I would think the tax payers should be reimbursed for time the students are out of class. Preferably by the students themselves and not the parents. They can protest all they want when school is out,

If they don't care enough to attend class and get an education, what difference does it make who is in Washington.

 
roadkill1292 said:
Threads like these are usually pretty entertaining because posters reveal their innate reaction to civil disobedience. Disobedience of any kind enrages some and encourages others. I'm pretty energized by civil disobedience.
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These threads always remind me of my youth.  When I was in 8th grade, I took a civil disobedience stand in school.  It wasn't a political stand but was school-related, something I felt strongly about.  My mother is a teacher (different school); I was always raised and taught to respect my teachers.  I spoke with my parents about what I thought was right, what I was going to do, etc.  My parents gave me their blessing and told me that they wouldn't fight my battles for me and that I would have to accept the school's punishment, but that they wouldn't punish me at home.  I like to think that if my middle school or high school kid can articulate why they are taking part in this protest, I'd have the same response as my parents.

 
zeamax said:
I would think the tax payers should be reimbursed for time the students are out of class. Preferably by the students themselves and not the parents. They can protest all they want when school is out,

If they don't care enough to attend class and get an education, what difference does it make who is in Washington.
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lol

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
A lot of kids left school around here to protest the election back in November.  It's anecdotal, but I think most parents were OK with it.

I'd rather my kid miss a few hours of school than become a Republican.
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My opinion is different...

Protest on your own time -- make a weekend protest -- this is just an excuse to miss some school time.

I don't care if my kid is Republican, Democrat, Independent....whatever.  That is for my child to decide.  It's the values on which they decide that are more important to me...

 
Fred Lane said:
Protest on your own time -- make a weekend protest
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if there was something you were truly passionate about, that you thought was egregious to the point of warranting protest,  you'd ..... wait until the weekend?

what time of day on the weekend?

saturday mornings are pretty busy, lots of dads driving around, going to Home Depot and such. it would be bad to interrupt them. saturday afternoons are prime lunch and shopping time. imagine the disruption if you tried to protest then! and you can write saturday night right off, that's date night. no way your wife lets you protest then. not unless you like sleeping on the couch for a month.

sunday, church. dios mio if you interrupt church. i'd protest you organizing a protest during church hours and i'm not even a church guy. then you've got brunch.. and if it's the fall or winter, football.  can't protest then. sunday night is family dinner. if your grandma is anything like mine, she'd cut your ####### fingers off if you miss her sunday dinner.

maybe you can squeeze it in after that? but if you have kids, got to put them to bed and, let's face it.. you haven't had a moment to yourself all week.. sunday nights are for rest. good luck organizing people to go out in the cold on a sunday night.

and, boy, if you do find a way to squeeze in some protesting you'd better make sure you do it out of the way.. in such a way that no one will notice.. or be offended. then you're just drawing attention to yourself, snowflake.

might as well go ahead and silent protest

or self immolate silently in your own home away from prying eyes

 
mr. furley said:
if there was something you were truly passionate about, that you thought was egregious to the point of warranting protest,  you'd ..... wait until the weekend?

what time of day on the weekend?

saturday mornings are pretty busy, lots of dads driving around, going to Home Depot and such. it would be bad to interrupt them. saturday afternoons are prime lunch and shopping time. imagine the disruption if you tried to protest then! and you can write saturday night right off, that's date night. no way your wife lets you protest then. not unless you like sleeping on the couch for a month.

sunday, church. dios mio if you interrupt church. i'd protest you organizing a protest during church hours and i'm not even a church guy. then you've got brunch.. and if it's the fall or winter, football.  can't protest then. sunday night is family dinner. if your grandma is anything like mine, she'd cut your ####### fingers off if you miss her sunday dinner.

maybe you can squeeze it in after that? but if you have kids, got to put them to bed and, let's face it.. you haven't had a moment to yourself all week.. sunday nights are for rest. good luck organizing people to go out in the cold on a sunday night.

and, boy, if you do find a way to squeeze in some protesting you'd better make sure you do it out of the way.. in such a way that no one will notice.. or be offended. then you're just drawing attention to yourself, snowflake.

might as well go ahead and silent protest

or self immolate silently in your own home away from prying eyes
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Boy! Your MS (or HS) son (or daughter) sure has a grown up life!!

 
90% of kids in this protest probably don't have a clue what they're even protesting.  But if it makes roadkills day more power to them. 

 
Ramblin Wreck said:
90% of kids in this protest probably don't have a clue what they're even protesting.  But if it makes roadkills day more power to them. 
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I get the feeling that this is one of those situations where they can't win for people like you anyway.  They are either too dumb to have a clue what the issue is about, or if they took the time to learn about it or talk to adults about it, they are just pawns in their parent or teacher's liberal games. 

 
KarmaPolice said:
I get the feeling that this is one of those situations where they can't win for people like you anyway.  They are either too dumb to have a clue what the issue is about, or if they took the time to learn about it or talk to adults about it, they are just pawns in their parent or teacher's liberal games. 
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Well if any of them state why they're protesting and what they want to accomplish I'm listening. But that's also likely to be the 10% doing the articulating. 

 
Gr00vus said:
Maybe not the kid, but the parents have to deal with it - that's where I was going with that statement. With so many families with 2 working parents, having to babysit junior on work days because the kid's suspended is an inconvenience at least.
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Babysitting a high schooler? Really?

 
Gr00vus said:
Yeah, let's just have 14 year olds hanging around the house unsupervised for a few days. What could go wrong?
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Part of the problem I see with the youth is that their parents don't let them do anything on their own.  If you teach your kid to be self sufficient they should have no problem staying at home for the 8-10 hours you are at work and if you don't trust your kid to be alone then maybe you should be teaching them some lessons in life.   

 
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