HOU running game (1 Viewer)

[RamMan]

It's still unclear whether or not A. Green will play this weekend. We probably won't know more until Friday. I just picked up Dayne off our waiver wire and plan to use him Sunday if Ahman is out (over KJ and Dunn. Yes, another hammered SJax owner here who missed out on Leonard this week ). What do you see for Houston's starting RB (whether it's Green or Dayne) vs. the ATL D? Foster ran all over them last weekend and AP did the same week 1. Does the trend continue?

I'm thinking around 80/1 and 25/0. Not stellar but good enough for your RB#2. Any other thoughts?

 

[purestrength]

Also, does Gado have a chance of being in the mix this weekend?

 

[texasbirdfan]

It's still unclear whether or not A. Green will play this weekend. We probably won't know more until Friday. I just picked up Dayne off our waiver wire and plan to use him Sunday if Ahman is out (over KJ and Dunn. Yes, another hammered SJax owner here who missed out on Leonard this week ). What do you see for Houston's starting RB (whether it's Green or Dayne) vs. the ATL D? Foster ran all over them last weekend and AP did the same week 1. Does the trend continue? I'm thinking around 80/1 and 25/0. Not stellar but good enough for your RB#2. Any other thoughts?

Fosters yards were late after punk D. Hall got his 69 yards in penalties and the D either ran out of gas or mental energy. Don't see them doing that again

 

[RamMan]

Also, does Gado have a chance of being in the mix this weekend?

In my opinion Gado gets some touches if Green is out (spelling Dayne here and there). However, if Green plays I don't think Gado does anything. Of course, if Green plays I don't think Dayne rates much either (might get a GL carry or two and/or a touch here and there to spell Green).

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Gado is not likely to start as one or both of the other guys will be available. If they reaggravate an injury, Gado could find himself right back in but for starting purposes, it's next to impossible to start Gado.

I like the Houston running game this week. Foster scored two TD's last week for Carolina.....if he can score 2 times then just about anyone can.

 

[laughinboy_2000]

It's still unclear whether or not A. Green will play this weekend. We probably won't know more until Friday. I just picked up Dayne off our waiver wire and plan to use him Sunday if Ahman is out (over KJ and Dunn. Yes, another hammered SJax owner here who missed out on Leonard this week ). What do you see for Houston's starting RB (whether it's Green or Dayne) vs. the ATL D? Foster ran all over them last weekend and AP did the same week 1. Does the trend continue? I'm thinking around 80/1 and 25/0. Not stellar but good enough for your RB#2. Any other thoughts?

Fosters yards were late after punk D. Hall got his 69 yards in penalties and the D either ran out of gas or mental energy. Don't see them doing that again

The Dirty Birds have the 25th ranked run defense, so whoever starts has a shot at 80-100 yards and a TD.

 

[Resident A]

I have both Green & Dayne. I'm hoping Green just sits this week. I don't want to risk starting him & then he leaves the game again after 4 carries.

Dayne did a great job as a starter last year, I think he muster 80 & a TD if he gets the start.

 

[TeamDingo]

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[letter_j]

Running game...sounds to me like it might be the passing game...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3037398

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Ahman Green - RB - Texans

The Houston Chronicle reports Ahman Green (knee) is "unlikely to contribute much, if anything" when the Texans take on Atlanta Sunday.

Coach Gary Kubiak said it'd be a "big, big bonus" if Green could do anything against the Falcons. It appears Ron Dayne is likely to start for Houston, with Samkon Gado potentially helping on third downs. Dayne would be a solid flex play at worst and remains a must grab in all leagues.

Sep. 26 - 4:27 p.m. ET

Source: Houston Chronicle

 

[SteelerMurf]

Running game...sounds to me like it might be the passing game...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3037398

It's all the same, early lead means more rushes...and without Hall they would most likely cheat a safety out of the box.

 

[The Mechanic]

If Green, who I have, is laid up and Dayne has bad ribs doesn't it seem Possible that Gado would be More productive? He seems to play well when given the touches al la G.B.

What about J. Cook?

Might have to make a move on a flex spot...

 

[Bri]

They lost their C this week to IR

 

[Cowtippers]

For what it's worth it looks like Dayne practiced today..........Found this on KFFL tonight.........

Texans | A. Green unlikely to play Week 4

Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:42:13 -0700

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports Houston Texans RB Ahman Green (knee) is unlikely to play Week 4.

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Texans | Dayne practices Wednesday

Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:41:50 -0700

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports Houston Texans RB Ron Dayne (ribs) practiced Wednesday, Sept. 26, and is expected to play Week 4. He will likely start the team's game.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Sep 26 Green has not practiced this week, and, according to the Houston Chronicle, he isn't expected to see much playing time this weekend.

 

[RamMan]

Sep 26 Green has not practiced this week, and, according to the Houston Chronicle, he isn't expected to see much playing time this weekend.

Green could be a GTD. Hopefully we'll know more by Friday's injury report.

 

[greenline]

If Ahman Green is expected to make little, if any contribution, then why does Dodds have him projected for 19 carries and 71 yards?

 

[faux_bear]

If Ahman Green is expected to make little, if any contribution, then why does Dodds have him projected for 19 carries and 71 yards?

Because those projections were made early in the week. Fridays update will surely see that number knocked down significantly. I'll just be curious to see where Ron Dayne is ranked.

 

[packersfan]

Dayne was removed from the injury report today. Green missed practice again and isn't expected to play.

I'm liking Dayne a lot this week for what it's worth. Falcons' run defense is bad and they will be without Rod Coleman and Jonathan Babineaux up front.

 

[MOAT]

Dayne was removed from the injury report today. Green missed practice again and isn't expected to play. I'm liking Dayne a lot this week for what it's worth. Falcons' run defense is bad and they will be without Rod Coleman and Jonathan Babineaux up front.

That's good news for Dayne renters...like me.

 

[thatguythere]

Ahman Green says the swelling has gone down in his sore knee and he'll know whether he'll play Sunday "when I wake up in the morning that day."

Coach Gary Kubiak also says Green will be a game-time decision, but has not been overly optimistic about his chances of playing. "Everything is getting better because I'm not pounding on it," Green said. "I'm getting treatment."

Source: Houston Chronicle

It was looking like Ron Dayne all the way until I saw this. Anyone think Dayne is still worthy of a pickup for a wait and see Sunday morning?

 

[packersfan]

Even if Green plays, Dayne's no worse than a RB3 this week in my opinion because he will be involved and there are no guarantees Green doesn't re-injure the knee by playing on it. As Green said, he's getting better because he's not running on it. What happens when he does or when he takes a hit? The other issue is with their WR corps thinned out, it's logical to assume the Texans will run it even more - and that's an even better strategy considering Atlanta's run defense is among the worst in the league. And in the first two weeks, Dayne was getting double-digit carries as the backup. If they run it 30-35 times against the Falcons, Dayne could get 15 carries minimum and maybe a lot of carries late in the game should Houston have a lead.

If you picked up Dayne this week certainly his stock will take a hit if Green does play, but I still think he can put up numbers along the lines of 15-65 with a good shot at a TD even as the backup this week. Upside is over 100 yards and 2 TDs. I like Dayne a lot this week if he's the starter and would consider him a nice RB2 pick. As the backup, I'd still start him as a RB3 if you have injury or bye-week issues.

 

[Nigel]

Even if Green plays, Dayne's no worse than a RB3 this week in my opinion because he will be involved and there are no guarantees Green doesn't re-injure the knee by playing on it. As Green said, he's getting better because he's not running on it. What happens when he does or when he takes a hit? The other issue is with their WR corps thinned out, it's logical to assume the Texans will run it even more - and that's an even better strategy considering Atlanta's run defense is among the worst in the league. And in the first two weeks, Dayne was getting double-digit carries as the backup. If they run it 30-35 times against the Falcons, Dayne could get 15 carries minimum and maybe a lot of carries late in the game should Houston have a lead. If you picked up Dayne this week certainly his stock will take a hit if Green does play, but I still think he can put up numbers along the lines of 15-65 with a good shot at a TD even as the backup this week. Upside is over 100 yards and 2 TDs. I like Dayne a lot this week if he's the starter and would consider him a nice RB2 pick. As the backup, I'd still start him as a RB3 if you have injury or bye-week issues.

Assume Green does not go - does Gado get 10 carries spelling Dayne?

 

[packersfan]

Even if Green plays, Dayne's no worse than a RB3 this week in my opinion because he will be involved and there are no guarantees Green doesn't re-injure the knee by playing on it. As Green said, he's getting better because he's not running on it. What happens when he does or when he takes a hit? The other issue is with their WR corps thinned out, it's logical to assume the Texans will run it even more - and that's an even better strategy considering Atlanta's run defense is among the worst in the league. And in the first two weeks, Dayne was getting double-digit carries as the backup. If they run it 30-35 times against the Falcons, Dayne could get 15 carries minimum and maybe a lot of carries late in the game should Houston have a lead. If you picked up Dayne this week certainly his stock will take a hit if Green does play, but I still think he can put up numbers along the lines of 15-65 with a good shot at a TD even as the backup this week. Upside is over 100 yards and 2 TDs. I like Dayne a lot this week if he's the starter and would consider him a nice RB2 pick. As the backup, I'd still start him as a RB3 if you have injury or bye-week issues.

Assume Green does not go - does Gado get 10 carries spelling Dayne?

Depends on the game. If the Texans are rolling he could get 10. Otherwise I'd probably guess around 5. Here are Dayne's carries compared to the other RBs in the games he started late last season:Week 13: Dayne 18 (Lundy 9)Week 14: Dayne 21 (Lundy 5)Week 15: Dayne 18 (Lundy 3)Week 16: Dayne 32 (Taylor 8)

 

[thatguythere]

Even if Green plays, Dayne's no worse than a RB3 this week in my opinion because he will be involved and there are no guarantees Green doesn't re-injure the knee by playing on it. As Green said, he's getting better because he's not running on it. What happens when he does or when he takes a hit? The other issue is with their WR corps thinned out, it's logical to assume the Texans will run it even more - and that's an even better strategy considering Atlanta's run defense is among the worst in the league. And in the first two weeks, Dayne was getting double-digit carries as the backup. If they run it 30-35 times against the Falcons, Dayne could get 15 carries minimum and maybe a lot of carries late in the game should Houston have a lead. If you picked up Dayne this week certainly his stock will take a hit if Green does play, but I still think he can put up numbers along the lines of 15-65 with a good shot at a TD even as the backup this week. Upside is over 100 yards and 2 TDs. I like Dayne a lot this week if he's the starter and would consider him a nice RB2 pick. As the backup, I'd still start him as a RB3 if you have injury or bye-week issues.

I picked him up and dumped Fred Taylor...I just don't see Fred getting more than yardage points and we only get 1 per 25 yds. Now I have to decide between Sammy Morris and Dayne for the flex spot.I doesn't really sound to me like Green is going to play this weekend. I think Dayne can put up some real decent numbers against Atl as long as Schaub can move the ball even a little thru the air. Plus there are a few other teams that might be hurting for a RB this week and if Green doesn't play Dayne will be the hottest pickup. He always seems to have a few games a year where he puts up great numbers. Plus it's only $5

 

[Nigel]

Even if Green plays, Dayne's no worse than a RB3 this week in my opinion because he will be involved and there are no guarantees Green doesn't re-injure the knee by playing on it. As Green said, he's getting better because he's not running on it. What happens when he does or when he takes a hit? The other issue is with their WR corps thinned out, it's logical to assume the Texans will run it even more - and that's an even better strategy considering Atlanta's run defense is among the worst in the league. And in the first two weeks, Dayne was getting double-digit carries as the backup. If they run it 30-35 times against the Falcons, Dayne could get 15 carries minimum and maybe a lot of carries late in the game should Houston have a lead. If you picked up Dayne this week certainly his stock will take a hit if Green does play, but I still think he can put up numbers along the lines of 15-65 with a good shot at a TD even as the backup this week. Upside is over 100 yards and 2 TDs. I like Dayne a lot this week if he's the starter and would consider him a nice RB2 pick. As the backup, I'd still start him as a RB3 if you have injury or bye-week issues.

Assume Green does not go - does Gado get 10 carries spelling Dayne?

Depends on the game. If the Texans are rolling he could get 10. Otherwise I'd probably guess around 5. Here are Dayne's carries compared to the other RBs in the games he started late last season:Week 13: Dayne 18 (Lundy 9)Week 14: Dayne 21 (Lundy 5)Week 15: Dayne 18 (Lundy 3)Week 16: Dayne 32 (Taylor 8)

thanks for looking that up

 

[packersfan]

Even if Green plays, Dayne's no worse than a RB3 this week in my opinion because he will be involved and there are no guarantees Green doesn't re-injure the knee by playing on it. As Green said, he's getting better because he's not running on it. What happens when he does or when he takes a hit? The other issue is with their WR corps thinned out, it's logical to assume the Texans will run it even more - and that's an even better strategy considering Atlanta's run defense is among the worst in the league. And in the first two weeks, Dayne was getting double-digit carries as the backup. If they run it 30-35 times against the Falcons, Dayne could get 15 carries minimum and maybe a lot of carries late in the game should Houston have a lead. If you picked up Dayne this week certainly his stock will take a hit if Green does play, but I still think he can put up numbers along the lines of 15-65 with a good shot at a TD even as the backup this week. Upside is over 100 yards and 2 TDs. I like Dayne a lot this week if he's the starter and would consider him a nice RB2 pick. As the backup, I'd still start him as a RB3 if you have injury or bye-week issues.

Assume Green does not go - does Gado get 10 carries spelling Dayne?

Depends on the game. If the Texans are rolling he could get 10. Otherwise I'd probably guess around 5. Here are Dayne's carries compared to the other RBs in the games he started late last season:Week 13: Dayne 18 (Lundy 9)Week 14: Dayne 21 (Lundy 5)Week 15: Dayne 18 (Lundy 3)Week 16: Dayne 32 (Taylor 8)

thanks for looking that up

Not a problem. I've been paying very close attention to this situation all week knowing I might need to grab Dayne as a replacement for Rudi Johnson.

 

[faux_bear]

Not a problem. I've been paying very close attention to this situation all week knowing I might need to grab Dayne as a replacement for Rudi Johnson.

Count me in this boat. Fortunately I grabbed Dayne LAST week before Rudi got hurt. What I am a bit worried about is Andre Johnson and Jacoby Jones being out. Will Atlanta just put 8 in the box all game or will Schaub and the coaches find ways of spreading out the offense a bit? I have to say though, as an MJD owner, I feel better putting Dayne in my lineup this week than him.

 

[packersfan]

This is from John Clayton's Friday night injury report - nothing new but just further confirmation of what is expected:

Halfback Ahman Green is questionable with a knee injury and hasn't practiced all week. He probably will miss the game, so expect Ron Dayne to start.

 

[prymetyme25]

I really hope the Texans either trade for one of the denver backs (M. Bell if healthy) or call up D. Walker fromt he PS. Right now all we have are pile movers and no real speed back there or true talent for that matter.

Think Det would trade T. Bell?

Did someone pick up W. Lundy? As much as i hate him he wouldn't be too bad right now.

 

[rabidfireweasel]

I really hope the Texans either trade for one of the denver backs (M. Bell if healthy) or call up D. Walker fromt he PS. Right now all we have are pile movers and no real speed back there or true talent for that matter.Think Det would trade T. Bell?Did someone pick up W. Lundy? As much as i hate him he wouldn't be too bad right now.

DAYNE=Speed

 

[Toxic Gatorade]

From what I understand, Green will probably sit the ATL game and let Dayne take the reps. I read in the Houston Chronicle during the week that Kubes said he messed up last week by deactivating Dayne for the INDY game. He coulda/shoulda played and let Ahman rest his knee. So I'm on the side of the fence that Dayne starts, Ahman sits a week to give it more time away from the poundings.

If Dayne does get the start, 2 TDs and 90yds look good for a fill-in RB.

 

[rawdog]

From what I understand, Green will probably sit the ATL game and let Dayne take the reps. I read in the Houston Chronicle during the week that Kubes said he messed up last week by deactivating Dayne for the INDY game. He coulda/shoulda played and let Ahman rest his knee. So I'm on the side of the fence that Dayne starts, Ahman sits a week to give it more time away from the poundings.If Dayne does get the start, 2 TDs and 90yds look good for a fill-in RB.

Toxic– From the Texans avatar, take it you're a Texans homer. How likely is it that Green's injury continues to bother him and Dayne is more than just a one-week filler?

 

[ELI2TYREE]

Ahman Green - RB - Texans The Houston Chronicle reports Ahman Green (knee) is "unlikely to contribute much, if anything" when the Texans take on Atlanta Sunday. Coach Gary Kubiak said it'd be a "big, big bonus" if Green could do anything against the Falcons. It appears Ron Dayne is likely to start for Houston, with Samkon Gado potentially helping on third downs. Dayne would be a solid flex play at worst and remains a must grab in all leagues.Sep. 26 - 4:27 p.m. ET Source: Houston Chronicle

If this is the case, look for Gado to vulture goal line situations. IMO.

 

[Toxic Gatorade]

You are correct......I am a Houstonian and a Texans homer.

To answer your question, I'd say it's pretty good that the knee issue lingers. I also think that Dayne is more than a 1 week wonder down here. Gado may steal some reps here and there, but Dayne "should" be the horse if Green stays out for a period of time. Something that I learned is that Ahman has been hampered with this knee problem since Week 1 vs KC. Now it has flared to the point where he isn't able to contribute or be inactive. When I came across that info, I went and snatched Dayne in every league I'm in LAST WEEK.

 

[uncleleo]

I may play Dayne over Cadilac this weekend....

 

[SteelerMurf]

Ahman Green - RB - Texans The Houston Chronicle reports Ahman Green (knee) is "unlikely to contribute much, if anything" when the Texans take on Atlanta Sunday. Coach Gary Kubiak said it'd be a "big, big bonus" if Green could do anything against the Falcons. It appears Ron Dayne is likely to start for Houston, with Samkon Gado potentially helping on third downs. Dayne would be a solid flex play at worst and remains a must grab in all leagues.Sep. 26 - 4:27 p.m. ET Source: Houston Chronicle

If this is the case, look for Gado to vulture goal line situations. IMO.

you guys read waaaay too much into what coaches sayNo RB plays the entire game without being subbed in at some point by the backup......this would be Gado. How you would transfer Gado on 3rd down to him being a goalline vulture is beyond me

 

[RamMan]

Quick bump for any additional information anyone might have on the HOU starting RB situation. Homers or others feel free to chime in...

 

[Qtip Callahan]

Most sharks should know this additional tidbit, but Kubiak has been pretty high on Dayne since they both spent some brief time together in Denver. I'm getting the feeling that Kubiak would like to see how Dayne looks at RB with Schaub behind center. Dayne wasn't too effective last season (the memorable Indy game aside), but neither was anyone else either and teams certainly didn't fear David Carr too much.. I wouldn't expect spectacular numbers from Dayne, but I think 70+ yards and a TD looks very possible.

Don't see why Gado would be the goalline back. 3rd down/change of pace, more likely. Goalline, why?