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How do you feel about baseball this year? (3 Viewers)
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Gr00vus
Footballguy
Parrothead
Footballguy
Angry Beavers
Footballguy
Absolutely true that it is their private business and they don't have to share that information, BUT it is tough to claim poverty and losing money while only telling part of the story.Cjw_55106 said:
purplehaze67
Footballguy
Eight Men OutJoe Mammy said:
Cobb
Fear Strikes Out
The Pride of the Yankees
Joe Mammy
Footballguy
I haven't seen Fear Strikes Out in probably 50 years, thanks!
Quick story, my dad took me to an Old Timers Game in Yankee stadium when I was about 10. After the OTG they played a regular game against the Red Sox. We were in about the third row in right field. Reggie Smith was the Sox right fielder. There was a very loud mouth Yankee fan sitting right behind us. Smith wore #7 and the fan kept yelling at the top of his lungs whenever Smith was in earshot, "hey #7, wasn't that Piersall's number? Hey Crazy #7, you're just like Piersall- you're nuts!" Over and over throughout the game.
I had just seen the movie and all I could think of was Anthony Perkins climbing the backstop crazily. I also looked up his number, it was #24. Crazy the little things you remember...
JaxBill
Footballguy
@JeffPassan: BREAKING: MLB commissioner Rob Manfred tells @Espngreeny that he’s “not confident” there will be a 2020 baseball season. “Unfortunately," Manfred said, "I can’t tell you that I’m a 100% certain that’s gonna happen.”
News at @espn: https://es.pn/37ysZDF
@ToddFuhrman: UPDATED: Commissioner Power Ratings
1) Dana White
2) Roger Goodell
3) Gary Bettman
4) Don Garber
5) Adam Silver
....
97) Rob Manfred
News at @espn: https://es.pn/37ysZDF
@ToddFuhrman: UPDATED: Commissioner Power Ratings
1) Dana White
2) Roger Goodell
3) Gary Bettman
4) Don Garber
5) Adam Silver
....
97) Rob Manfred
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Owners look horrible here. Hope the players don't cave.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Baseball has the scummiest owners in all the American sports, although NFL's are quickly catching up.
MAC_32
Footballguy
The loudest ones on twitter seem to know the end game, so I'd be surprised if they do. So many conflicting emotions about all of this.
Statorama
gangster
Gotta say I'm not missing MLB (or NBA for that matter) as much as I miss going to concerts. Completely ambivalent about baseballs return.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
The sport is dying anyways and in the era of COVID-19 thIs may be its deathknell.
Angry Beavers
Footballguy
WDIK2
Footballguy
They're going to have to bring the juiced ball/steroids and a home run record race back again if they don't have a season this year.
I would like to see baseball this year, but it's not that big of a deal to me. My dad and few of my friends are big baseball fans, and I would feel bad for them if there isn't a season.
The General
Footballguy
Maybe a bit of hyperbole there:
“Gross revenues for the league were $10.7 billion for 2019, up from $10.3 billion last year, according to industry sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity. That marks the 17th consecutive year that MLB has seen record growth”
Link
TLEF316
Footballguy
Yeah, the salaries for the top players continue to sky rocket, which would SEEM to be an indicator of growth.
Of course, the owners have been saving a bunch of $$ in recent years by wising up and no longer giving guys that are 33 years old 5 year contracts, so who knows.
The fact that most of the league doesn't hit true free agency until they turn like 28 years old (due to the absurd amount of team control/arbitration years) is a pretty good indicator that the owners hold the power in this relationship. So I can't totally blame the players for trying to get some power back. The next CBA negotiations are going to be an absolute blood bath.
Of course, the owners have been saving a bunch of $$ in recent years by wising up and no longer giving guys that are 33 years old 5 year contracts, so who knows.
The fact that most of the league doesn't hit true free agency until they turn like 28 years old (due to the absurd amount of team control/arbitration years) is a pretty good indicator that the owners hold the power in this relationship. So I can't totally blame the players for trying to get some power back. The next CBA negotiations are going to be an absolute blood bath.
MAC_32
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
The most concerning data points involve age demo's. The death of baseball talk is forecasting related.
The General
Footballguy
My 11 year old son loves PLAYING baseball. Is on a travel team and little league team. NEVER watches it. Doesn't even know what a batting average is.
-OZ-
Footballguy
The scary part, in some ways, is that baseball is best option other than "sports" like NASCAR to return safely. I don't know how basketball could be safe for the players. Hockey and football at least have protective clothing.
Dentist
***Official FBG Dentist***
THe number of home runs and strikeouts has become so absurd to me that it's not a sport I recognize much anymore vs. one from as recently as 5-8 years ago.
Kind of similar to how NBA 3 pointers have exploded and NFL passing numbers are now super inflated
It's interesting to me how things have evolved so much in these sports in a short time frame... But none of these changes make for a better game or are suited to my interests though.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I don't think we're going to see most team sports for quite a while, in this environment.
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
Odd. I played from 6 to my senior year in high school and I always knew what my batting average was
RUSF18
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Like any numbers you can play with them but this is from the Forbes article:
"Since 1992, when Bud Selig took over as commissioner on a full-time basis, league gross revenues have grown from $1.2 billion, an 386% increase when accounting for inflation"
That the owners don't want to open their books and that whenever a team goes up for sale rich dudes are knocking themselves out to buy the teams tell me they are still good investments.
-OZ-
Footballguy
You're probably right.
Sports teams are the real status symbol of choice among the elite.
Even minor league teams get interest. I'm not sure if they're good investments or just fun toys.
nirad3
Footballguy
0 is pretty easy to remember....Odd. I played from 6 to my senior year in high school and I always knew what my batting average was
That's certainly true, though the ongoing disaster that is Manfred's tenure would seem to give some people pause, though that's likely just me.
The General
Footballguy
I think they are both. Probably better ways to make a buck but they aren't losing money on these for sure and there aren't many of them.
More Van Goghs for sale than MLB teams.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Theses guys really blew it. They could be playing right now and absolutely dominating tv when people are still desperate for sports and something different on tv.
It’s be interesting to know exactly how the tv contracts are setup, because all these networks and regional sports networks that are being forced to show old games and movies have to be plenty unhappy about that. If I were them, I’m not sure I’d be as willing to shell out as much money in the next contract knowing that the league is such a mess that they’d screw me over if something like this happened again.
It’s be interesting to know exactly how the tv contracts are setup, because all these networks and regional sports networks that are being forced to show old games and movies have to be plenty unhappy about that. If I were them, I’m not sure I’d be as willing to shell out as much money in the next contract knowing that the league is such a mess that they’d screw me over if something like this happened again.
nirad3
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I’ve kind of rekindled my love for baseball during quarantine. Looking forward to 2021!
Joe Summer
Footballguy
The franchises are supposedly worth a billion dollars apiece and yet the public could pretty much take 'em or leave 'em.
The game was America's pastime, now we don't have time for it. I remember reading that games for years would be finished in about 90 minutes, now they're 4 hours long, and every minute is boring now.
The General
Footballguy
From what I read, they will have a season, the players will make bank, the owners will make more bank.
A longer season without fans in the stands wasn’t profitable for the owners so it was never going to happen unless the players gave them some crazy concessions.
I want to know the details of what happens if a player on a team gets Covid. What do they do?
This goes for all sports.
A longer season without fans in the stands wasn’t profitable for the owners so it was never going to happen unless the players gave them some crazy concessions.
I want to know the details of what happens if a player on a team gets Covid. What do they do?
This goes for all sports.
nirad3
Footballguy
Huh. I wonder if this makes fantasy baseball viable. I'm in a H2H league, so probably not enough games for that to work, but maybe an all-play type of thing will work.
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