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How many PKs could you make? (1 Viewer)

I mean, if you played competitively for 10-15 years and can kick the ball with pace in the same spot ten times in a row, you're a little different from the average guy.

But if you told a world cup goalie exactly where the ball was going to go, and then it went there 10 times in a row, you're daft if you think he's letting one through. 
If the guy has to start on the middle of the goal line and people said they were going top shelf left or right, there is no chance to even get a hand on the ball if you kick it there with any pace (assuming the guy doesn't move two seconds early).

If your keeper friend truly meant the guy off the street that never played and had no practice or warm up shots, he's probably right that none are getting in the net.

 
This is actually the most difficult part of the challenge.  

Its relatively easy to put one ball past the keeper.  But, most people, even soccer players - have a preferred shot selection.  And, they are probably decent at that specific shot selection, but having to vary the shots for 10 rounds means you'll be kicking towards less preferred spots - and that gives an advantage to the keeper.
One thing we used to practice on penalty kicks was our coach got to the point where he only counted PK goals in practice that hit a post/crossbar and went in. I think the best I had was 4 out of 10. But this was when I was playing on 3-4 teams and was going to summer soccer camps and clinics every summer.

I would be interested to learn how frequently the top players / teams practice penalty kicks.

 
If the guy has to start on the middle of the goal line and people said they were going top shelf left or right, there is no chance to even get a hand on the ball if you kick it there with any pace (assuming the guy doesn't move two seconds early).
Two points:

1st: I doubt anyone on this board could hit the top right or left shelf more than once in 10 shots - with no keeper present.  That is legitimately hard to do.  I am even more certain that nobody can do it at pace.

2nd:  Keeper is not required to stay in the middle on a Pen.

 
I would be interested to learn how frequently the top players / teams practice penalty kicks.
teams rarely practice it since it only comes up in tournament settings that you need multiple takers.

But the individual players who are assigned to take pk's as part of a regular game during the season I am sure practice them fairly regularly which also helps the keeper practice that skill.

 
2nd:  Keeper is not required to stay in the middle on a Pen.
I get that. But the requirement would be that would have to be his starting point (because in reality that's where they all start from). Clearly a keeper would have an advantage knowing where the shot is going, but even knowing where isn't enough on properly positioned shots.

I may just have to grab some soccer balls and go out one afternoon and see if I am fooling myself and having flashbacks to my days of youth that cannot be replicated or substantiated now.

 
Just exchanged a few texts with a guy I know who used to play pro keeper, and is still involved with the game. I'm being intentionally vague as to his qualifications, but he's got some authority. 

He said that the average guy off the street can't strike the ball well enough to force a pro keeper to commit, the keeper can just react, and if the keeper can react the average guy has "little to no chance" against a pro keeper. 

The average guy would have to get exceptionally lucky with the kick of his life in the perfect spot to even get one. If the over/under was set at .5, I'd take the under. 
Hugo Lloris?

 
I may just have to grab some soccer balls and go out one afternoon and see if I am fooling myself and having flashbacks to my days of youth that cannot be replicated or substantiated now.
don't forget to bring a 6'5'' keeper with a wing span of Rodan with you :)  

The goal looks a whole lot bigger with out that component.

 
Totally. Also you can probably take Pacquaio. 
To be fair, I imagine the shortest goal keeper in the World Cup towers over Pacquaio.

I'd give myself good odds to score 11 goals on 10 shots with Manny in goal.

 
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Steve Tasker said:
I tried to factor this into my thought process.  Ideally I'd like to think I can hit 1 out of 10 that is simply unstoppable...upper 90, side netting, something that no GK is going to stop.  I'd have to hit with enough power to actually force the GK to at least somewhat guess.....trying to simplyplace a ball, no matter how accurate I am, is going to allow the GK enough time to read the shot and react to stop it.  So inevitably I'd probably miss the net a few times.  Hopefully I'd get lucky 1-2 other times and get the GK going the wrong way.

I think what Kanell is underestimating is the power required to get a shot past one of the world's elite GKs.  Sure, it's a big net, but he's going to be off his line cutting down the angle as much as possible instantly, and if you don't hit it with power he's going to be able to see it off your foot and react with time to spare.  Hitting a soft line drive into the corner isn't all that difficult for an average Joe Sixpack who plays soccer regularly, but that's not going to beat an elite GK.
A good analysis here.  I've always had much more power than accuracy, so I'd just try to stay over it and hope to keep it on frame.

 
James Daulton said:
This is just like the catch a punt thread or return a tennis pro's serve thread.  We act like these pro athletes are super human sometimes.

I'd put the house that I could get at least 2 of 10 past.  Which is pathetic by the way since I know where I'm going to kick the ball and the goalie doesn't.  And kicking a ball hard really isn't that difficult to do.  I know, I know I have no idea how hard real soccer guys kick the ball, yada yada.
The last time I truly tried to kick a soccer ball hard I tore a muscle in my hip.  You are in your 50’s - you don’t kick the ball as hard as you think and you definitely don’t do it accurately.  I’d guess 0 or 1 if I got lucky and hit it pure and away from the keeper.

 
1st: I doubt anyone on this board could hit the top right or left shelf more than once in 10 shots - with no keeper present.  That is legitimately hard to do.  I am even more certain that nobody can do it at pace.
At pace is a completely different ballgame.

From the spot?  8/10 or so.  You underestimate what experience some folks may have on this board.  

That said, even if I did hit those I'd expect Courtois or Lloris to save one or two of those.  I've gone against some high grade keepers, but nothing that even approaches those guys.  Watching Courtois stand in the middle of the net, spread his arms out (while touching the crossbar), and covering about 2/3 of the net without having even moved is one of the most intimidating things I remember seeing in this WC.  Mother of God that guy is ridiculous.

 
I played varsity soccer is HS, and never missed a PK then, but the keeper talent was obviously much lower than world-class.  Considering top pros only make around 70% I think it's pretty foolish to expect to make any more than that, but with enough pace on the ball and keeping it low it should be possible to keep the goalie guessing.  I'll say that I'd make 3-4

 
The last time I truly tried to kick a soccer ball hard I tore a muscle in my hip.  You are in your 50’s - you don’t kick the ball as hard as you think and you definitely don’t do it accurately.  I’d guess 0 or 1 if I got lucky and hit it pure and away from the keeper.
Even with a week of prep?  And I'm 50, not in my 50's!

 
I would just kick it straight all 10 times. Id assume one of the times the GK would fly to the left and the ball would roll straight in for a goal 

 
From the spot?  8/10 or so.  You underestimate what experience some folks may have on this board.
:lmao:

Watch this from about 3:07 - includes a professional soccer player - 0/10 combined

Hitting top corner is really hard.  Nobody on this board is hitting 8/10.

ETA - I am probably top-5 in actual experience, and in the top 2 or 3 in taking actual PKs.  In my prime, I could not hit 8/10 top corners - the margin for error is so much smaller than people realize.

 
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Tom Servo said:
Danny Kannell ( :rolleyes:  I know, but bear with me here) said he could easily make 3 of 10 PKs  against a goalie. 

Now, some commenters added that you would be doing this after 120 minutes of running. I didn’t get that from his comment, but I’ll ask this way:

1. 10 penalty kicks against a World Cup goalie. 

2. Full crowd of however many thousand people. 

3. Both of you are fully rested and ready to go. 

Questions:

1. How many do you make?

2. How would a punter or FG kicker do? Better or worse than a retired QB?
I make all 10 kicking the ball completely straight.

 
This is actually the most difficult part of the challenge.  

Its relatively easy to put one ball past the keeper.  But, most people, even soccer players - have a preferred shot selection.  And, they are probably decent at that specific shot selection, but having to vary the shots for 10 rounds means you'll be kicking towards less preferred spots - and that gives an advantage to the keeper.
I was thinking about that one too.  I can put the ball into the left side-netting (if you're looking at the net from the spot) with relative frequency.  But I can't place it into the right side-netting with power with any real consistency.  It's not going to take long for a top GK to figure out where I'm trying to go every time.

 
I am getting zero or 1 and am relying on luck. 

Kick the ball as hard as you can. Even if I get 1 I am probably missing the net the other 9 times. 

Kicking it softer and trying to hit the net all 10 times it is for sure zero. But if I kick as hard as I can I think I can net 1. 

 
:lmao:

Watch this from about 3:07 - includes a professional soccer player - 0/10 combined

Hitting top corner is really hard.  Nobody on this board is hitting 8/10.

ETA - I am probably top-5 in actual experience, and in the top 2 or 3 in taking actual PKs.  In my prime, I could not hit 8/10 top corners - the margin for error is so much smaller than people realize.
Your definition of top corner is much smaller than I would put it at.  I was thinking the size of what a goalie can't get to, which is a good bit larger.  At that size in my prime maybe a couple with lots of variance.

 
Do I have at least a week to practice ahead of time? 

I was good at PKs when I played.  If I had a week to get some rhythm and pace down I think I could get some low, hard shots down.  I guess the difficulty would be trying to ensure I'm not telegraphing too badly. 

Man.  This is tough.  I think I'd make at least one if I had some practice (if I went in cold right now I'd need some serious luck to make one) so I'd set the line at over/under 1.5.   

 
:lmao:

Watch this from about 3:07 - includes a professional soccer player - 0/10 combined

Hitting top corner is really hard.  Nobody on this board is hitting 8/10.

ETA - I am probably top-5 in actual experience, and in the top 2 or 3 in taking actual PKs.  In my prime, I could not hit 8/10 top corners - the margin for error is so much smaller than people realize.
Yeah going top corner seems incredibly dumb for most if not all of us.  Would assume the play would be low and hard* to a post with something off the inside of our foot. 

*If it's ten in succession I'd take at least one right at the keeper to see if that worked. 

 
Just exchanged a few texts with a guy I know who used to play pro keeper, and is still involved with the game. I'm being intentionally vague as to his qualifications, but he's got some authority. 

He said that the average guy off the street can't strike the ball well enough to force a pro keeper to commit, the keeper can just react, and if the keeper can react the average guy has "little to no chance" against a pro keeper. 

The average guy would have to get exceptionally lucky with the kick of his life in the perfect spot to even get one. If the over/under was set at .5, I'd take the under. 
Wow.  Interesting. I guess not too far off from what I thought but I did initially think somebody of still reasonable athletic ability that played for several years could get at least one by (likely struck just hard enough and just inside one of the posts). 

 
Brony said:


Just exchanged a few texts with a guy I know who used to play pro keeper, and is still involved with the game. I'm being intentionally vague as to his qualifications, but he's got some authority. 

He said that the average guy off the street can't strike the ball well enough to force a pro keeper to commit, the keeper can just react, and if the keeper can react the average guy has "little to no chance" against a pro keeper. 

The average guy would have to get exceptionally lucky with the kick of his life in the perfect spot to even get one. If the over/under was set at .5, I'd take the under. 
In the video above, people literally off the street went 2/10, and another guy just missed with one hard off the crossbar.

 
the keeper was not even trying as others in the thread have mentioned.  This is what it looks like when he tries

https://youtu.be/NWctO3DnqYI?t=1m46s
I agree he wasn't giving it full effort, but the whole point of shooting the video was to see if random people could score on him, and pretty much any athlete is going to not want to look bad in that kind of situation, so he wasn't half assing it either.

Crossbar guy goes top center and easily would have scored... the keeper guessed right side on him and looked like he was giving full effort to me - he dove all the way to his right goal post.

On the 1st made goal he guesses left and easily gets beat to his right side.

With the woman, I don't think he thought she could strike it hard enough to get it past him... then she hit a really nice shot just inside his left goal post and he literally had no chance and barely moved.

 
I agree he wasn't giving it full effort, but the whole point of shooting the video was to see if random people could score on him.
the point of the video was a very light hearted way to create a little marketing for the new team.  Nothing more than that.

 
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the point of the video was a very light hearted way to create a little marketing for the new team.  Nothing more than that.
Perhaps, but either way the guy that put one off the crossbar illustrated pretty well that a guy off the street has a puncher's chance of putting one in the net.

Which is at odds with what the pro keeper told proninja.

It reminds me of something Joe Nuxhall used to say... "If you swing the bat, you're dangerous".

 
We should start a thread where the question is "what could you be as good as a top pro in, with only one week of practice?"  Doesn't even have to be sport.  We could do music, cooking, what ever.  

I am going to guess acting in porn won't be high on the list  :kicksrock:
I could cut a wrestling promo with Bobby Heenan and Jim Cornette. :thumbup:

 
The main theme to all threads in this genre is that normal people drastically underestimate how good professional athletes are at their job. 
I'm not arguing that they aren't.  This particular aspect of their job is designed for the keeper to lose and to lose big. 

 

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