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You're right that we need to manage risk. I like the idea of banning fans over 50 and making everyone else sign a waiver.
Say 2 minutes. Multiply that by 25% capacity so maybe 15000 people. That is 30000 minutes. To make this 1 hour extra there would need to be 500 people performing tests at the gates. Think that through
All except New York. They are 50/50.
Now add the extra time to take each fan's temperature and to make them sign a waiver saying they won't hold the league responsible if they get infected.
This...........wont work.
it will be all automated through apps by the same people that check you in now. They will just add it to checking your bags and be wanded.
can all be done with an app before hand. many teams in sports have already switched to digital tickets only. This will be an added check box.
Please explain this processGetzlaf15 said:
Also, please work up another Venn diagram, showing the convergence of "you can't make me wear a mask" people and "I'm totally willing to download an app, sign a waiver which forfeits my legal rights if I become critically ill, and also let the authorities track my movements" people.
I didn't comment on it's effectiveness. It will mostly be for show. Show is what will still be required for something we really should just chalk up as a problem for the sick and elderly. A lot of what we'll be doing going forward will be simply going through the motions. There's no going back to shutdowns. And that means we find ways at an accelerating pace to open up every aspect of society. If for sports that means a flashy, high tech thermal camera to pull a few people out of line for testing, then that's what they'll do. I'm sure the auto-response / thought for some will be that no one will feel safe enough to attend. Nonsense. Not when I see people flocking into the first casinos to reopen. I think people are going to be awfully surprised to see how quickly people brush this off and get back to consumerism.ghostguy123 said:
It'll be like the same delay we experienced at airports after 9/11 when TSA started checking more stringently. Just another added layer to the system already in place.
and just like the TSA, they will randomly pull out every 25th person just for appearances
Their have been LEGAL disclaimers on the back of tickets forever.If they wanna watch an nfl game live, they would if it was required right?They can rant and rave on fb about how unAmerican it is all they want. We sign waivers all the time for activities. No reason that shouldn't be part of the ticket buying process.
You act as if COVID is a sentient being which will be intimidated by things such as "confidence" and "Security Theater".
Bingo. It may be like what you described, what I described, or both. The bottom line is that the shift is happening to living with coronavirus, not eliminating coronavirus. Business and industry will be tasked with coming up with some show measures to give off the appearance that they're doing something. Look, we had show measures in place at grocery stores. All it told us is that there's a small percentage of the population that needs to exercise extra due diligence. Everyone else can wear masks, wash their hands, be thermally scanned, tested, verified asymptopmatic, immune etc. And even those measures are really to protect the vulnerable around us, not really as a self-protective measure for most people.
Those legal disclaimers are fine when it's only 1-2 fans dying per year. Not sure if you can indemnify a team for allowing a superspreader to infect thousands of people.
Just in case you don't know, the normal four game pre season schedule is on NFL.com.
Yeah and a week ago 4th of July festivities, concerts and plays were still on in Oregon. They are until they aren't.
Glad I live in a state with a reasonable governor that shut down things before most and has a 4-level plan to reopen.
It's about what will be legal mostly.
Now you're understanding the motions. We're not going to be testing 330 million people daily. Eventually the show fades away.
And I'm glad I live in a state with one of the latest rates of infection because my governor listens to the experts.
Yeah why bother testing at all. Just open it all up since it's going to go away like a miracle some day.
don't know. Why not get tested a week before the first game? We've had 3-day results since the day they opened up drive-thru testing. I'm sure by that time, it'll just take a minute or two for results.
I don't. Which is why they arent going to slam 20000 people together with a bunch of half assed measures.
Personally, I would not fault our government if they just came out and said F it, everything is open.
your state has 50% more cases and 133% more deaths than mine. Still very low though, so kudos for that. Our rates per mil are about the same. Likely due to being more rural than most. Gov Little here waited with extra caution an extra two weeks IMO. Been very cautious. 30% of our counties have had 0 cases. 60% have had 5 or less. 4 of the 66 counties account for 71% of all cases. No need to shut the world down for all. We've been at 20 or under cases per day for 6 weeks now. It's not spreading like wild fire here.
Governors should not be encouraged to make life-and-death decisions based on politics. Those who open up out of fear of losing their job, are just as bad as those who are politically motivated to close down.
Government is in the business of mitigating risk and finding a threshold of acceptability.
It's not here in Oregon either. We've had 6 deaths under the age of 60. ****SIX**** We've had 3 days in the last 7 with zero new cases.
my post is compared to Oregon. CR69 mentioned he was from there also.
Right, its spreading far less because.........wait for it.........shelter in place and no larger gatherings.
If you talk about how great she is I have to point out how awful she is. This isn't the place for that, so let's not.
Meh...maybe. I agree it has to stop, and I actually agree MOST mass gatherings are probably done as well for a while. My only bone of contention is I think the NFL can do a modified version. I admit I could be wrong, but that's my opinion.
If you're numbers are correct, then not allowing the Blazers to play is 100 percent political.
It goes beyond where people are inside the stadium with seating, concessions, bathrooms.......but also the crowds coming into and leaving the stadium at the same time.
Last week's State Gov report on COVID19
"100% political" would mean that the governor was going against advice of state and national medical & scientific advisors. I don't think that's happened.
