Doug B
Footballguy
You guys need to get into the main COVID thread here to get the skinny on this stuff. This study was debunked because they pulled some subjects out of the study midstream who would later pass away.
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How will CV affect the NFL? (1 Viewer)
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I get that they can still have the draft from a logistical point of view. I could see there still being a delay if at the time of the draft it is apparent that every team is dealing with personal issues related the peak virus. What if several potential draft choices get the virus. What if many key decision makers get it. What if these cases are sever? The NFL shutdown football for a week after 911. Things could get nasty at that time.
I have a feeling they are keeping the hope up as long as possible. This keeps the NFL relevant during this time. It shows that they are adjusting to the social distancing and being a role model through this. It's good for morale. It keeps a lot of people working and relevant...Sport shows, fantasy football, podcasts etc.
I just think this is horrible timing for the league. Let's all hope I am wrong!
DallasDMac
Footballguy
What is half the people that normally would be running the drafts for the teams are down with the virus?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Then the other half run it. Most of the people infected can do their jobs just fine anyway, remotely. They have all had ample time to prepare. There should be no excuses for not being able to formulate a draft board and make selections. There should be no excuses for poor communication amongst everyone.
If you dont think they should have the draft in April, then when? May or June? Nothing will be different then either.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
If the predictions are correct and this is gonna peak in a couple weeks then May or June might be better.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Unfortunately those predictions are not accurate, and even if they were that peak will last a long timeMongidig said:
ghostguy123
Footballguy
The point is, the sooner the better. Either that or wait till octoberDallasDMac said:
D-Day
Footballguy
One thing to consider is if there is a significant chance that the season gets cancelled, postponed, or cut down, would that change who a team may pick in 2020? Is Tua now more valuable vs Burrow due to having a year to medically heal? Would running backs drop because they tend to be "win now" kind of draft picks?
Drafting projects and positions that take longer to develop (O-line, WR and QB) be the better course of action vs and immediate impact player. Drafting quality of player instead of need. This may push Young to #1 vs the QBs.
Just some random thoughts.
Drafting projects and positions that take longer to develop (O-line, WR and QB) be the better course of action vs and immediate impact player. Drafting quality of player instead of need. This may push Young to #1 vs the QBs.
Just some random thoughts.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
This won't age well.
Drunk driving? 10,000. The flu? 60,000.
Current projections for this are 3x those two combined.
That's WITH strict stay at home.
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
Maybe this is the thread to say this, maybe not. Not sure, but going to say it anyway as the sentiment in here seems indicative of the head in the sand mentality of too many across the country.
There is 0% chance of a 2020 NFL season. Perhaps people will begin to understand this as the death toll rises, not sure what it will take for people to realize the gravity of what’s going on. Season isn’t happening, and soon that won’t even be debatable.
Hope I’m wrong with all of my being.
There is 0% chance of a 2020 NFL season. Perhaps people will begin to understand this as the death toll rises, not sure what it will take for people to realize the gravity of what’s going on. Season isn’t happening, and soon that won’t even be debatable.
Hope I’m wrong with all of my being.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
I’ve said it before in here but I disagree due to the overall callousness of the NFL owners and their closeness to Trump who will support it as “being good for the country”. I’d say there is actually a 100% chance of the season starting; now whether it finishes or when, I dunno.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Most of the RBs would still be around 25/26 years old when they're contracts ran out, even if they tolled a full season, so not sure why that would matter.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
Yes. I can’t say it strongly enough that they. don’t. care.And people think there aren’t going to play this season
pantherclub
Footballguy
I dont see a CV college football thread so I will say this here. I have strong doubts that college plays in the fall. The timeline doesn't match up with the graphs and predictions. If there is no football revenue it's going to wipe out athletic departments.
rockaction
Footballguy
If there's no vaccine, they're missing time this season. Laugh at it, but book it. They missed a week for 9/11. This will keep going on and they'll have no excuse. Right now it's the player's association in baseball that's making the noise about playing. The owners don't have to pay the players in baseball, apparently. At least that's what I caught out of the corner of my ear the other night.
Congress can always dangle the anti-trust stick, and the owners will blanch.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
I know right? It really sucks we all get to have fun one night. What a sham.Capella said:
Capella
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
It's a draft. This can safely be done without anyone being in the same room as each other.
If free agency happened, why cant the draft?
Capella
Footballguy
By the time the draft takes place, thousands will be dying every day. Totally different landscape.
Right now you are standing on the shore. You know a massive hurricane is on its way. You see the clouds, it's getting windy and it's starting to rain. Once the storm makes landfall we all will be hunkered down and probably not thinking about fun stuff at the moment. We will be thinking about survival. Now maybe the storm changes course, but probably not. I think it is easy to say what's the problem now with the draft scheduled when it is. I think our perceptions of the situation will be forced to change in a few weeks.
This years draft is unfortunately tmed for when we will see the spike of Covid. I don't mind the NFL keeping with their timeline at the moment for reasons I mentioned in a previous post. I just think that if things do go as bad as predicted then I can't imagine them not pushing it back a few weeks. If it was scheduled for May 23rd I'd feel fairly confident it was gonna happen.
I feel like a week from now we are gonna have a better feel for things. I would love to be wrong.
rockaction
Footballguy
If there is no medical treatment that is successful at stopping the disease from taking lives?
I mean, how remote does one have to allow the possibility to be?
And timelines are being adjusted on the vaccine protocol. In the early 20th Century, they were using malfunctioning vaccines on poor populations for smallpox. There is no set timeline for a vaccine. There's a set FDA process and scientific methodology. Nothing more than that.
Capella
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
To be clear, I don’t think they should play the games (as least not as things look now), just that they will.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I am a nurse. I am going to be front and center to a #### storm.
I want the draft. Gonna need a nice evening of entertainment.
It's ok. You are allowed to forget about this crappy mess for a few hours and enjoy yourself.
NutterButter
Footballguy
I am thrilled they're having the draft. For a lot of people, its gonna be a nice distraction.
Niles Standish
Footballguy
I expect the vast majority of the US has gotten the disease by then. Figure back of napkin numbers based on 5,000 deaths and we are probably at 5-10 million cases in the US currently. Double rate every week or so with all our distancing. That means 10-20 million next week 20-40 2 weeks 40-80 3 weeks etc etc... Majority of the US has it by June.
At that point there is no point of distancing because the disease is over in this country and can't really spread because we have herd immunity.
Maybe I'm an optimist but that's how I see it progressing.
You want the whole country to get the disease by June and you consider yourself an optimist
. Umm ok
Capella
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
waiver wire
Footballguy
the only way I can see games being played is if there is a daily test and if that's even a stretch . The test would have to be able to catch the virus in the infancy in a person while they are asymptomatic
they would have to test the players in the morning and night daily
country will be under lax or severe restrictions depending on the state , county and city until july
training camps is suppose to start mid july
I can see then shortening the preseason or pushing back the start of the nfl season so they fulfill their tv contracts
here is the problems in my opinion
the virus is not going to be gone so players can still get infected and pass it on
so daily tests make alleviate that problem but it will still be a risk because you can have the virus and pass it on without knowing or showing symptoms
2nd problem would be how can you have fans in the stadiums, every sunday has the potential of being a new hotspot and starting it again
3rd problem with be the 2nd wave should hit this fall and we are right back to where were we almost started as past of the population would be immune because they had it and recovered in this wave
if this has been said sorry , just read the op and the last page
these are the thoughts that came to mind while reading those couple of pages . I could be totally wrong or change my mind with new facts but with what I understand of the virus at this time . this is what a I believe
hopefully im wrong and will listen to any opinions to change my mind on this
they would have to test the players in the morning and night daily
country will be under lax or severe restrictions depending on the state , county and city until july
training camps is suppose to start mid july
I can see then shortening the preseason or pushing back the start of the nfl season so they fulfill their tv contracts
here is the problems in my opinion
the virus is not going to be gone so players can still get infected and pass it on
so daily tests make alleviate that problem but it will still be a risk because you can have the virus and pass it on without knowing or showing symptoms
2nd problem would be how can you have fans in the stadiums, every sunday has the potential of being a new hotspot and starting it again
3rd problem with be the 2nd wave should hit this fall and we are right back to where were we almost started as past of the population would be immune because they had it and recovered in this wave
if this has been said sorry , just read the op and the last page
these are the thoughts that came to mind while reading those couple of pages . I could be totally wrong or change my mind with new facts but with what I understand of the virus at this time . this is what a I believe
hopefully im wrong and will listen to any opinions to change my mind on this
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Had an odd thought. Let’s assume there isn’t a vaccine by the time the season rolls around. Another option would be to expose and then isolate all the players to the virus. From what we’ve seen so far, athletes that have tested positive haven’t had severe reactions and most were mild or asymptotic.
That way the players wouldn’t need to be tested everyday and they wouldn’t have to worry about transmitting it to anyone else. I get that there is no way it will ever happen that way, but it would probably work and at least solve the players infecting each other or infecting fans issue.
That way the players wouldn’t need to be tested everyday and they wouldn’t have to worry about transmitting it to anyone else. I get that there is no way it will ever happen that way, but it would probably work and at least solve the players infecting each other or infecting fans issue.
NutterButter
Footballguy
Come fall, you're looking at a potentially new strain so immunity largely starts over. Should have much better testing then though.
Niles Standish
Footballguy
My Governor (Polis) said the numbers he looks at say that doubling has slowed to every 5 days (from every 2 days). That his team suspects is due to distancing. And Colorado has a shelter in place + criminal penalties for violating the shelter in place. Meaning we are one of the strictest distancing in the US.
Niles Standish
Footballguy
Possibly, although this one has not mutated much at this point so I think a new strain by fall is mostly doomers. If you're right, it will likely be here until the end of time and just a fact of life like the flu.
Niles Standish
Footballguy
1) If it is as prevalent as I think the death rate is closer to what populations that have more widely tested see (less than 1%) and what has been postulated by scientific journals like Lancet (less than 1%). And less like countries that are too overwhelmed to test like Italy or Spain are reporting (more than 10%). And while people will die (I think that is basically guaranteed at this point optimist or not) it's not going to be as bad as a lot of people are theorizing from an overall numbers standpoint.You want the whole country to get the disease by June and you consider yourself an optimist
2) Immunity which is speculated will hold and this thing won't mutate and hold the world hostage for the rest of time. A vaccine won't stop this if it mutates by the way. So the people that are guessing this will mutate and a new strain will hit by fall are basically saying this is just a fact of the world for the forseeable future.
I realize some people have put that theory forward, and I'm sure you can find some support for it, but it was been debunked by most, including our president.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-uk-herd-immunity-coronavirus-catastrophic-boris-johnson-covid-2020-4
Niles Standish
Footballguy
1) I don't believe much of what Trump says because he has lied at every opportunity.
2) The article you linked didn't say that herd immunity won't work, just that a lot of people will die getting there which is common sense. I don't think you can find anything legitimate that says we don't get immunity. The only speculation I have seen in the last few weeks is how long immunity holds. Scientists have found antibodies, China was using them to treat in January and we are now. They are not speculation they are scientific fact.
Yeah a lot of effing people will die, if you don't think that's 'not working' than not much point in saying anything else.
