Dr. Octopus
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If we're watching on TV - why would this really matter? I mean it's far from ideal but I would prefer to watch the games played in empty arenas then not at all.And no ones wants to watch sports with no one in the stands.
If we're watching on TV - why would this really matter? I mean it's far from ideal but I would prefer to watch the games played in empty arenas then not at all.And no ones wants to watch sports with no one in the stands.
what are you, from the future or sumthin'?Wouldn't they just be able to Skype, Zoom, Microsoft Teams, etc?
Wouldn't they just be able to Skype, Zoom, Microsoft Teams, etc?
Yes people I understand these things exist and are being used right now. I also understand it's sometimes a whole lot easier to sometimes walk into the office next to you ant want talk something out one on one, might want a private conversation or a non-whole group conversation, or review data together quickly. Also a lot of teams are heavily concerned about getting hacked.what are you, from the future or sumthin'?
you're almost certainly right. the nfl is essential. i'm personally giving them an exemption.I just doubt that some teams are not going to have a key analytical person or few key scouts come over to the like GM's house and be accessible in a back room or something.I just don't honestly believe entire teams will all be working from isolation of their homes.
sighyou're almost certainly right. the nfl is essential. i'm personally giving them an exemption.
IMO, people are underestimating how difficult it will be for Brady to get a new team to think and react like he does. How many times did we see him on the sideline in NE screaming at guys like Edelman about not being in the right place or cutting off a route at the wrong spot? Maybe it wasn't that NE could never draft receivers . . . maybe it was just too difficult for newbies to learn the offense and get in sync with Brady?Crowds play a factor in performance. Be an interesting experiment to see football teams without fans. Brady would be even more effective, no? The ability to change plays at the line without hindrance would be something.
I take your point. Actually, I fully get it, but I was just spitballing off of the top of my head and using the most obvious example of somebody who changes plays at the line. Think of Brady as a proxy for all QBs changing plays without noise, not as Brady qua Brady with Tampa.IMO, people are underestimating how difficult it will be for Brady to get a new team to think and react like he does. How many times did we see him on the sideline in NE screaming at guys like Edelman about not being in the right place or cutting off a route at the wrong spot? Maybe it wasn't that NE could never draft receivers . . . maybe it was just too difficult for newbies to learn the offense and get in sync with Brady?
Speaking in broader terms, a lot could be way different. If they end up playing games at remote sites without fans, homefield advantage would go out the window. There may or may not be an element of travel. Who knows how much each team would be able to get practices in. Would that help better defenses more than better offenses? I still think the advantage will be to teams with the most continuity from last year to this year. But there is no way of knowing any of that until we move forward in time and see what the available options are for games, practices, locations, etc.I take your point. Actually, I fully get it, but I was just spitballing off of the top of my head and using the most obvious example of somebody who changes plays at the line. Think of Brady as a proxy for all QBs changing plays without noise, not as Brady qua Brady with Tampa.
It was less football talk than a generalization about crowd noise. If I were a question writer for the LSAT, and you were taking the test and being asked to identify the main point of the passage, I would say it would be about crowd noise and QBs, not the minutiae of Brady within Tampa's offense.
But you're really rather correct about the minutiae, which is also important.
Sounds like some new cheating opportunities available for Belichick.Wouldn't they just be able to Skype, Zoom, Microsoft Teams, etc?
Sure - it's possible some teams do that as well - some (non-essential) companies still have people going into an office as well, that I know of, by saying the employees are essential to their business.Yes people I understand these things exist and are being used right now. I also understand it's sometimes a whole lot easier to sometimes walk into the office next to you ant want talk something out one on one, might want a private conversation or a non-whole group conversation, or review data together quickly. Also a lot of teams are heavily concerned about getting hacked.
I just doubt that some teams are not going to have a key analytical person or few key scouts come over to the like GM's house and be accessible in a back room or something.I just don't honestly believe entire teams will all be working from isolation of their homes.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "certain coaches and front-office staffers" are reluctant to have IT employees in their homes for fear of spreading the COVID-19 virus.
It's the first true hang-up execs have experienced since the league announced it would be ignorantly pushing forward with this year's draft. Not only are some coaches and front-office members concerned about sharing their homes with IT employees, some of the latter have also reportedly voiced their concerns about going into others homes to equip them. With a handful of general managers and head coaches continuing to push back, it will be interesting to hear Commissioner Roger Goodell's response to any who audibly oppose his iron fist. This new development likely won't effect the draft from commencing as scheduled on April 23.
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SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Apr 8, 2020, 3:57 PM ET
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "certain coaches and front-office staffers" are reluctant to have IT employees in their homes for fear of spreading the COVID-19 virus.
It's the first true hang-up execs have experienced since the league announced it would be ignorantly pushing forward with this year's draft. Not only are some coaches and front-office members concerned about sharing their homes with IT employees, some of the latter have also reportedly voiced their concerns about going into others homes to equip them. With a handful of general managers and head coaches continuing to push back, it will be interesting to hear Commissioner Roger Goodell's response to any who audibly oppose his iron fist. This new development likely won't effect the draft from commencing as scheduled on April 23.
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SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Apr 8, 2020, 3:57 PM ET
Gotta love the commentary they can't help but slip in. Trolls.This would be great for Arizona hotels/resorts. It would have to be all night games or super early in the morning games because of the heat.Sources: MLB, union focused on plan that could allow season to start as early as May in Arizona
MLB is discussing plans to have the whole season in Arizona, with no fans at games and personnel staying in a baseball bubble without outside contact.
Zero chance, literally zero, of him cancelling it.Just 15 more days Roger. Hold!!!!!!! Hold!!!!!!!!!
So you're saying there isn't a chance?Zero chance, literally zero, of him cancelling it.
Totally disagree with the last sentence. If they can get the games played with even one camera, Im in.The NFL playing this season, never mind starting anything close to on time, is a pipe dream.
60K+ plus cannot congregate until there is a vaccine. And no ones wants to watch sports with no one in the stands.
you shut your whore mouthSo the draft is going to happen. Now what happens if the season does not? How will they determine 2021 draft order?
I mean I guess you could just go with whoever won SB 52 gets the first pick but that’s just one guys opinion.
fly eagles fly
There is a 0.0% chance that there isnt some sort of delay or revised schedule when it comes to both college and football this fall.waiver wire said:Santa Clara County executive doesn’t expect sports until Thanksgiving
this was posted on profootballtalk tonight
still guess work and conjecture by him , others and us
there are so many variables in play
the 1st ball to hit the ground for the NFL is training camp , if it starts on time then there is a chance for the season to start on time
if not then the speculation really runs wild
I agree about college football. No way Universities are gonna risk the whole school being shut down.There is a 0.0% chance that there isnt some sort of delay or revised schedule when it comes to both college and football this fall.
I think the college season is shot, there is talk about a spring season but I have no clue how that would work.
That's an interesting question, saw raised as related to fantasy football as well. Will be complicated, hopefully there's at least some type of partial season so it doesn't come to that.Wooderson said:So the draft is going to happen. Now what happens if the season does not? How will they determine 2021 draft order?
I mean I guess you could just go with whoever won SB 52 gets the first pick but that’s just one guys opinion.
fly eagles fly
Sold more what, gump, massage gift certificates?Just a note on the Free Agent business in comparison to other years...
Brady / Bucs has sold more than the combined FA sales from '12-'19.
Sorry, Licensed product...mostly jerseys and tees with the free agents new team.Sold more what, gump, massage gift certificates?
I was just teasing, bud. I figured.Sorry, Licensed product...mostly jerseys and tees with the free agents new team.
Interesting article by a woman who actually had a hand in constructing the current mode of contracts, per her saying so in the article.
The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach relays that many of the college athletic directors and commissioners whom she has spoken with are looking toward the end of May to make a decision on the 2020 CFB season.
A May decision makes sense given that schools will past the spring semester at that point and looking to lock in plans -- if possible -- for the fall semester. Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick noted that in order for the college football season to be played as scheduled, it would require (for obvious reasons) all campuses to be open, rather than just select ones. Which could be an issue given that the coronavirus is not impacting every state in the country in a static, blanket fashion. There are some states which smartly issued stay-at-home orders and the like very early, but others (such as football hotbed states like Florida, South Carolina and Georgia) which dragged their heels. The spread of the virus is not uniform, which makes a uniform decision on college football a complicated one. Hopefully we'll have more information in another month or so.
SOURCE: NBC Sports College Football Talk
Apr 15, 2020, 5:47 PM ET
FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports Rams C Brian Allen is the first active NFL player to test positive for COVID-19.
Allen tested positive three weeks ago but is expecting the "all clear" later this week now that he is system free. It was basically inevitable that an NFL player was going to test positive, and Allen could easily not be the last. Now that this news is public, it'll be interesting to see how the NFL responds. Thus far, the league has stayed on course with most of their current plans. The free agency period started on time, the NFL Draft is set for next week, and the regular season hasn't been rescheduled at all.
SOURCE: Jay Glazer on Twitter
Apr 15, 2020, 11:05 PM ET
Solid article. They're not. It's not feasible. We're used to getting what we want, specie-wise, but this is certainly one where we're at the mercy of another, really.
Raiders fan here. We have 2 firsts and 3 thirds. DVR-ing it and Watching. Every. Second.Between my dolphins having a bunch of picks and the absence of live sporting events, I've never been this excited for an nfl draft. I'm going to watch every single minute of it.
As a Cleveland Browns fan, I have been through the "bunch of picks" scenario many times. Enjoy it. It is a fun time. Unfortunately, for me, the #### always seems to go South soon after. So, yes. make the most of it!Between my dolphins having a bunch of picks and the absence of live sporting events, I've never been this excited for an nfl draft. I'm going to watch every single minute of it.
Us Raider fans have no idea what you’re talking aboutAs a Cleveland Browns fan, I have been through the "bunch of picks" scenario many times. Enjoy it. It is a fun time. Unfortunately, for me, the #### always seems to go South soon after. So, yes. make the most of it!
Von Miller is recovering from a case of COVID-19.
Per NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, Miller is "at home resting and in good spirits." Rapsheet reports Miller will speak publicly on Friday. It is unknown if Miller has been around other Broncos players or officials. Rams C Brian Allen was announced as the league's first confirmed case of COVID-19 on Wednesday, but the reality is there are probably several dozen players infected. Elite athletes, NFL players are in the demographic that should mostly be untroubled by the coronavirus, but as we have learned, the disease can be arbitrary and capricious. Hopefully the cases remain low and there are swift recoveries for all.
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Apr 16, 2020, 5:43 PM ET
Bundesliga is starting back up on May 9th.Solid article. They're not. It's not feasible. We're used to getting what we want, specie-wise, but this is certainly one where we're at the mercy of another, really.
I think Germany had a different experience with COVID, from inception and tracking to lull. I think the U.S. is much more logistically difficult to pull off.Dr. Octopus said:Bundesliga is starting back up on May 9th.
The US has the advantage of time. Nfl is still months away. Germany probably turned it around more quickly than we have, but they are at least showing that no-fan games make sense.I think Germany had a different experience with COVID, from inception and tracking to lull. I think the U.S. is much more logistically difficult to pull off.
If you can contract COVID from touch or saliva or sweat then football is radically different than most jobs. Not only is there chance of infection, there's what you'd have to do every time a player caught it, which is to quarantine every sick player fourteen days in isolation. They'd -- each and every player -- have to be tested every day for it...the logistics of testing and preparing for outbreaks would be monumental to overcome. I don't see it happening. Perhaps societal demand weighs the pros and cons differently than I, but I can't imagine this going off without significant quarantines and spread.The US has the advantage of time. Nfl is still months away. Germany probably turned it around more quickly than we have, but they are at least showing that no-fan games make sense.
Take away the crowd aspect of it (because clearly if things don’t change in a hurry that’s not happening), what is the difference between them and most jobs? I find it almost a given that by September we will be going back to work along with whatever risk that entails. If we can build widgets In a factory, they can play with no fans. It’s no more or less safe than most jobs.