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Hopeless guy tries to get girl.Hopeless guy becomes friend or weird stalker type.Just got here. Who can give me a synopsis (or even a smilie recap)?
Hopeless guy gets a sore palm from wanking.
Hopeless guy tries to get girl.Hopeless guy becomes friend or weird stalker type.Just got here. Who can give me a synopsis (or even a smilie recap)?
If you think 7+7 is less then 9, you need to get a new Abacus.Colinhow can you make that claim, so you would rather bag some 7's killing your chances with a 9?7 + 7 < 9Horrible decision.I could have easily have gotten action from some of the broads in the house but that would have definitely killed my chances with this one![]()
Did she remember your dress size, too?She just wanted to confirm that the number was 0.I forgot to mention she remembered how old I was from the 1st weekend, and she was bold enough to ask me when I lost my virginity and how many women I have slept with, I don't have too many female friends that ask those types of questions.
She remembered probably because 19-0-0 is her locker combination or something.I forgot to mention she remembered how old I was from the 1st weekend, and she was bold enough to ask me when I lost my virginity and how many women I have slept with, I don't have too many female friends that ask those types of questions.
Following this thread and getting a very good feel for your "game" I'm convinces this chick isn't even a 7 let alone a 9. I have a sneaking suspicion we're dealing with 5s and 6s here....how can you make that claim, so you would rather bag some 7's killing your chances with a 9?7 + 7 < 9Horrible decision.I could have easily have gotten action from some of the broads in the house but that would have definitely killed my chances with this one![]()
I forgot to mention she remembered how old I was from the 1st weekend, and she was bold enough to ask me when I lost my virginity and how many women I have slept with, I don't have too many female friends that ask those types of questions.
Women that are interested don't ask those questions because they don't care how many women you've slept with . If a chick wants to hook up with you, she will. Sounds to me like she's excuse fishing... looking for information to shoot you down with... Ie "sorry you're too old" or "sorry you've slept with too many people"OMG!!!!!Did you tell her your favorite color too?I forgot to mention she remembered how old I was from the 1st weekend, and she was bold enough to ask me when I lost my virginity and how many women I have slept with, I don't have too many female friends that ask those types of questions.
She remembered probably because 19-0-0 is her locker combination or something.I forgot to mention she remembered how old I was from the 1st weekend, and she was bold enough to ask me when I lost my virginity and how many women I have slept with, I don't have too many female friends that ask those types of questions.
10.So he should have gone all-in when he thought he had pocket 5's? Help me out.. I'm about as good at poker as Wolf is at Poke Her.,Jun 27 2005, 03:11 PM]
Following this thread and getting a very good feel for your "game" I'm convinces this chick isn't even a 7 let alone a 9. I have a sneaking suspicion we're dealing with 5s and 6s here....how can you make that claim, so you would rather bag some 7's killing your chances with a 9?7 + 7 < 9Horrible decision.I could have easily have gotten action from some of the broads in the house but that would have definitely killed my chances with this one![]()
Wolf,
You are in die or need of a capable wing man. Actually you should probably just start out being the "wing-man". Do the ugly friends for a while. Practice on the ugly ones.
You need game.

aren't you missing summer school?Wolf,
You are in die or need of a capable wing man. Actually you should probably just start out being the "wing-man". Do the ugly friends for a while. Practice on the ugly ones.
You need game.
zing!!!aren't you missing summer school?Wolf,
You are in die or need of a capable wing man. Actually you should probably just start out being the "wing-man". Do the ugly friends for a while. Practice on the ugly ones.
You need game.
She did want to hook up with me that first weekend, but I pissed her off by talking about the quiet chick since I had no clue she was digging my #### - I got this info. 2nd hand from one of her friends in the house, she was getting a really good vibe from me and then "he started talking about <quiet chick>" and she stormed out of the room, trust me the opportunity is still there.]I forgot to mention she remembered how old I was from the 1st weekend, and she was bold enough to ask me when I lost my virginity and how many women I have slept with, I don't have too many female friends that ask those types of questions.Women that are interested don't ask those questions because they don't care how many women you've slept with . If a chick wants to hook up with you, she will. Sounds to me like she's excuse fishing... looking for information to shoot you down with... Ie "sorry you're too old" or "sorry you've slept with too many people"
Did you make it up?It's a saying.......
Translation
He really needs a wing man.
Why should we believe you will have the poise to not talk about <quiet chick> the next time you have her attention?She did want to hook up with me that first weekend, but I pissed her off by talking about the quiet chick since I had no clue she was digging my #### - I got this info. 2nd hand from one of her friends in the house, she was getting a really good vibe from me and then "he started talking about <quiet chick>" and she stormed out of the room, trust me the opportunity is still there.,Jun 27 2005, 01:12 PM]
I forgot to mention she remembered how old I was from the 1st weekend, and she was bold enough to ask me when I lost my virginity and how many women I have slept with, I don't have too many female friends that ask those types of questions.Women that are interested don't ask those questions because they don't care how many women you've slept with . If a chick wants to hook up with you, she will. Sounds to me like she's excuse fishing... looking for information to shoot you down with... Ie "sorry you're too old" or "sorry you've slept with too many people"
Dude, you haven't touched a girl all summer. You should have been ballz deep many times. No game.......aren't you missing summer school?Wolf,
You are in die or need of a capable wing man. Actually you should probably just start out being the "wing-man". Do the ugly friends for a while. Practice on the ugly ones.
You need game.
C'mon Keerock. Haven't you ever heard of Money for Nothin' by Die Or Straits?Wolf,
You are in die or need of a capable wing man. Actually you should probably just start out being the "wing-man". Do the ugly friends for a while. Practice on the ugly ones.
You need game.![]()
Pretty sure Robin Williams uses it in the movie Good Morning Vietnam.Did you make it up?It's a saying.......
Translation
He really needs a wing man.
You mean dire need.Wolf,
You are in die or need of a capable wing man. Actually you should probably just start out being the "wing-man". Do the ugly friends for a while. Practice on the ugly ones.
You need game.
Section 9:I will now attempt to give you some grasp of the above seductive behaviours that will create an optimum level of attraction, and some grasp of those that will make you seem a loser or move things in the wrong directions.Operating under an understanding that women love sex, need their desires filled the same as men, and shouldn't be paid or rewarded for something they want to share just as much as you do, will allow you to avoid the damning behaviours covered in section 9.9.1 Chump or champ? The chump thinks women “GIVE” a man sex because its more important to them, and they should be paid for it by means such as "dates" undeserved compliments, humour, entertainment ect. A champ knows women love sex just as much as men so therefore the gift that is given in return for sex with a woman is the sex itself. Which are you? When was the last time you complimented a woman? Was it a woman that you wanted sex with? Have you ever complimented a woman you didn't want sex with? Have you ever complimented someone for something other than their appearance? Ask yourself these questions and you’ll know if you are acting like a chump or a champ.9.2 Do you brag around women? Well stop it if you do. If she isn't attracted to you, and even if she is, this isn't moving things into any kind of a sexual encounter. It is a waste of time and energy to brag, as everyone can see it when someone does it, and takes the claims made as lies, even if they are true. BE SEXUAL, as this serves to project without words that you are good in bed, well endowed, and worthwhile enough to be this confident. Of course don’t put yourself down either. This is very powerful knowledge that I’m giving you here, which few people know, and since I have a 130 IQ I can decipher this type of thing.See that was bragging and it was kinda lame huh? That was a joke, and ALSO not a good idea during a seduction. Here is why......9.3 A commonly observed scenario: a woman laughs at guy’s jokes, and then ends up having sex with him later on. Predictably, every guy there says, "She must like a guy with a sense of humour", and proceed to go out and ENTERTAIN, rather than seduce women, in hopes that she will like them SOOO much she will jump his bones right there. Not gonna happen unless she is VERY attracted. We wanna work with what looks we have and move them in the right directions for sex better than other guys, not create a non sexual rapport with jokes and funny stories.When a woman is asked "what do you like in a guy?", she doesn’t usually say "LOOKS and GOOD SEX" or else be branded a slut. SO, she grumbles "a guy with a sense of humour". She LIKES those funny men, she doesn't HAVE SEX WITH those funny men unless they happen to be attractive as well as funny. By the way, when a woman says "confidence" that's as close to saying " a guy who knows I wanna have sex and creates the opportunity for it aggressively" as women usually get. Don't listen to what women (or men) say, but rather observe what they do, and your eyes will not deceive or confuse you like your mind’s interpretations of the words will. A sense of humour isn't a bad thing, but its not sexually motivating or progressive. Stand up comedians are often natural entertainers because they have learned that their poor looks can be accepted that way. Check stand or bar stool comedians are the same entity with less talent. At the end of the night they go home and #### the sleeve of their favourite jacket rather than a woman. Some people say "nice guys finish last", because they see the funny entertainer go home alone. While the horny aggressive "jerk" gets the woman sexually turned on and moves her into isolation with him, rather than entertaining her endlessly in public.9.4 Payment based behaviours such as buying drinks for women at bars, giving them flowers, fixing their things, driving them places you aren’t going with her to, are all LOSER actions. Of course people like things like this, but these things conveys to her sexuality as "he isn't valid sexually because he is a poor lover or has a small penis, so he pays for sex with gifts of his time and money, he is a beta male". During ALL initial encounters with women, if requests are made for anything, ask yourself "would I do this for a causal acquaintance or male stranger?" If your answer is “no”, then don't do it. Of course you might buy a good friend accompanied to a bar a drink, but would you really buy a male stranger a drink? Didn't think so, unless it was to PAY him for something. Wanna test it out? Go buy 10 women at a bar a drink, and see if you don't walk out alone with 4-5 "thank yous”, a glare, and 4-5 waves of astonishment for your troubles. Do it 100 times and you may get a girl that's REALLY attracted to you that will engage sex with you, but you've now paid 500 dollars (5 bucks a drink) to get there. Go to a brothel if you want to pay for sex like a lowly ‘john’.9.5 Reading her palm, doing a psychic "cold reading", doing a handwriting analysis, playing a game of some kind ARE all LOSER behaviours as well. You may get lucky and she wont decipher that you are paying her with this entertainment and brand you a poor lover or micro penis equipped man, but it STILL does not move them into a sexual direction of any kind, so don't waste the time. Besides, tampering with these mystic forces is a one-way ticket to eternity in hell, ha ha ha.9.6 Speaking romantically or about wonderful states of mind and such may brand you a good boyfriend or husband material, which may eventually lead you to sex with her. It will go WITH her social conditioning rather than busting through it and getting to the natural woman who likes sex. However, she will most times "make you wait" or want to "date" first in this context. "Making the guy wait" is a time-honoured bull#### social conditioning that being romantic or "Don Juan" "Casanova" style will get you into 75% of the time with any given women. This is STILL paying for sex, just in a more effective though more time consuming way than other standard suck up tactics. Do this kind of thing AFTER sex if you want to see her again and pursue a long-term relationship. There is no more sure-fire way to get a woman into a romantic relationship than to have sex with her right away, because unless she has one night stands A LOT she will justify her break in conditioning with "it was love at first sight" or "we just had such a good chemistry I couldn't make my new boyfriend wait". By the way get caller id if you are gonna have a lot of one night stands, or avoid the woman knowing where you live or your phone number. The same dynamic I just wrote about will cause women to stalk you and demand relationships, if you aren't ready for one be prepared to say "get lost" a lot.Entertainment, gimmicks and flattery can only buy you RAPPORT with women, they do not build attraction or guarantee sex. If after using something like this to get a rapport, you find yourself in bed with a girl, she would’ve been there FASTER if you hadn’t used the pandering, entertaining and ### kissing beforehand. CONSERVE YOUR TIME, creativity, and passion for women who are actually attracted to you.9.7 DATES: NO DATES from here on out. The simple act of going on a date immediately puts her social conditioning into play HEAVY and the "make him wait" dynamic is introduced. I have NEVER been on a date with a woman, and I have had plenty of sex. Get the woman isolated with you (alone. just you and her out of public) soon after the initial approach for your "date" aka getting to know each other. I’ll discuss how to do this later on.9.8 NO PHONE NUMBERS, from here on out, you can go out and get 10 numbers a day for 30 days, that's 300 numbers, of those 300 maybe ONE will end up in bed with you after you call. If on all 300 you had stayed there after you approached, conveyed your sexual state, waited for her to go into sexual state, and then isolated her, you would have only approached 50 tops the whole month as you would have been to preoccupied in bed with 10 of those 50, avoiding another 250 approaches. If she finds you at all attractive she will talk to you right then and there, and most likely if you play the game right go home with you that day or from that bar, or into the sex room at a party.Of course calling a woman, buying her a gift or going on a date with her inside the context of a relationship is fine, but not before she’s proven herself attracted to you enough for sex to happen.Section 10: Sexual state broken down.Sexual state is THE most important thing you will learn from this guide. It is THE mind state you will be using to deal with women you want to sleep with. It is most likely the mind state you've had every time you ever sexed a woman in the past, at least as soon as the point came when you KNEW it was gonna happen. There is a certain "walks like a duck acts like a duck, must be a duck" dynamic working for you in the sexual state. If you act like her lover, act like you are in a sexual encounter and assume the behaviours and actions of a great lover, she eventually will start to think you are a waterfowl. Just kidding, of course she starts to go into the same states of mind from other sexual encounters she has had in the past, if she is at all attracted. This is what’s called "rapport congruency". You can look it up if you want to read 300 pages of dime store psychology, but suffice to say, if all the actions and states are present your mind kinda starts to assume it's the same situation, a milder form of "déjà vu".Furthermore, when someone perceives something in someone, but isn't directly told to them verbally by the person, they tend to think its THEY who are the ones imagining it – that it is comes from within them. That's why I tell you later to not verbalize your sexual intent in any way, as when you don’t, she will more likely to think, "Why am I thinking sexually about this guy….hmmm I must want him or else I wouldn't see him as such a horny guy."The "sexual state" is readily stepped into by imagining how you interacted with your last lover when in the bedroom before sex, or during pillow talk, and had a lustful desire for the woman. These are the things that it should encompass. These specifics are not to be used individually, but as an overall state that you go into when dealing with a woman. Read Bruce Lees Tao of Jeet Kune Do for an understanding of not focusing on specific technique but rather on overall strategy that encompasses several techniques. My method has been compared to this type of "fluid" theory, contrasting other seduction methods that are closer to classical Karate, which focuses on memorized techniques that take longer to master, and are harder to remember under stress. What follows of more of a troubleshooting guide.10.1 Sensual eye contact (EC). Proper eye contact with a woman is an important piece of your sexual state. The "bedroom eyes" are something you will need to convey during the encounter, since you want her to develop them as well, as she gets more and more comfortable with you and begins to mirror your actions and "vibe". "Bedroom eyes" are also much more attractive than darting or fearful eyes.10.2 Closeness, or for the nit picks "physical proximity" to her is also very important. Since you aren't gonna be seductive or sensual standing 2 feet away from her, you need to be within 6-8 inches of her - VERY CLOSE. You slowly move into this as you sense her loosening up a bit. Of course good breath is a crucial at this point. Brush you tongue and FLOSS those back molars out so your mouth doesn't smell like something that passed through the system of a morbidly obese 10-year-old boy. See "conversation" section for why not to say that last sentence in front of a woman, as well.10.3 Touch her. Since touch is the first step in getting her comfortable with you as a sexual creature, you want to sneak this in slowly. A good progression is: hands, arms, lowers back, upper back, face (while whispering something to her) and hair, then thighs (hand placed but relatively stationary), and upper legs. You should NOT look at you hands as you touch her, as this alerts her to a "question" - "is it ok to touch there?" in dynamic. Also, her eyes will follow your eyes to the touching and it will be unnatural, thus questioned by her or rejected. Touching also shows that "confidence", and may alert her to your being good with women, a fine lover, and confident lover. It demonstrates, "I am not afraid to touch women, because women like to be touched by me", to her inner workings.Touch early on also is a HUGE time saver, if she is so uncomfortable with you touching her right from the start as to physically or verbally stop it, NOTHING you say or do, short of saving her life is gonna get her into a sexual state for you.10.4 Tone of voice should be that of a sexual tone. You can’t run up yelling like Adolf Hitler at a nazi youth rally speech, or mumbling and stammering like Woody Allen. NOT SEXY. Not "talks like a duck". Imagine you are talking to a former or current girlfriend in a bed and about to have sex. You soften your voice, you deepen your voice, you speak slower and with an inflection of optimism and kindness. Not your regular speaking voice but YOUR sensual sexual voice. They were right when they said "just be yourself" they just never told you what "self" to be.Simply sliding into the sexual state will usually encompass the above behaviours inside of itself. Overall these are the medium sized chunks of sexual state, the large being "be horny", and the small likely being to many to ever be fully understood. The small chunks may encompass micro facial expressions, body positioning, or even ESP (extra sensory perception) . Its like how knowing there are vitamins A, C, D in a fruit, and taking those things out and using them in a pill, doesn't give you all of the undiscovered things that are inside a fruit that may be beneficial. We just KNOW A,C,D are essential for good health. It's the same here, we know that sections 10.1,2,3 of this guide are the medium chunks of what’s essential, and we know that eating the fruit is essential (natural sexual state). Lets just live naturally rather than trying to condense it all into a pill or formula and ENJOY eating the fruit (being horny) that gives us all we need.Now, advanced deal here. Not really a part of sexual state itself, but an obstacle to it sometimes and dealing with it.10.5 State matching. Quickly notice her state before you approach, is she UP, kinda down, or laughing a lot? STAY in the sexual state, but keep your actions kind of similar to hers so as to not break her state entirely, causing you to be seen as intrusive (breaking rapport). You want to convey the sexual state, but you don't wanna break her state either. This is another reason lone wolfs are easier to go for, as they usually aren't in some kind of "group state" of ruckus or laughter ect. You can approach women in strange states by matching theirs once you get far more advanced, but go more for the calm ones at first. This takes a butload of practice to get down, but as I said this is a trouble-shooting section and not techniques to obsess on.As an example of state matching WHILE conveying sexual state: Imagine your girlfriend just got home from work she’s EXCITED as hell about a promotion she got at work. Now you've been waiting all day to have sex with her, but you wouldn't just walk up and go sexual on her because it might break her state and cause her to kind of reel back. Instead, you would put your arms around her and say some sort of “wow that's great”, in about half the excitement level she has. This will curb her excited state slightly enough for her to begin recognizing your sexual state.So say she’s really down because her cat just died, you kinda get a little bit down too, but not completely as down as she is. This makes her kinda follow you into the less depressed state, enough so that she can pickup on your sexual state. She of course assumes it’s HER sexual state, since you aren't saying anything sexual and she just perceives it. So, "I must be horny cause I’m so sad" or "getting excited about this promotion got me excited about other things as well" is what she thinks. Of course it works a little less on strangers than a girlfriend, as they don't yet see you as a sexual outlet (except by virtue of being a man and having a penis). So it takes them some time to say "why am I horny for this guy".Simple huh? No? Sorry, this last one takes some field practice to get down.Section 11:What to say. What you say isn't that important – rather, its how you present yourself to her. Still you need to talk or be labelled an alien so here goes. Simple advice and techniques, as the sexual state, is FAR more important to convey than what you say to her is.The opener, as I said can just be simple a "hi", "hello", or "you from around here" ect. Introduce yourself at some point with your FULL name, first and last. People used to do this and it had a touch of class, dignity, pride and authority. Now its like, "I’m Dan, I don't have a last name I’m just Dan, I’m simple Dan ". Also being on first and last name basis is good, as she won’t feel like a "slut" for having sex with some guy who she can’t delude herself to think she knows. Get used to introducing yourself this way all the time and within 6 months it’ll be natural so you don't have to think about it.Say her first name a few times after meeting her, like before a question - "Becky, how do you find yourself in Los Angeles?" Many psychologists say that hearing your name from someone builds a connection, as they usually only hear it from friends, family, and people they like. Don't obsess on these small details, but if you can remember to work it into your convo, great. So long as its not at the expense of breaking your sexual state, and failing to convey that to her. Might be a buncha pop psychology bull#### anyway. Try to get used to doing it though, as it can’t really hurt anything and may help.The conversation. You don't need to worry about what you aren't saying to get into women’s pants. It’s what you’re saying to keep you -out of them- that you need be concerned about. Try not to swear so much you ####### #######, its not really sexy. Don't talk about puke, ####, piss, ejaculate, death, your horrid job, her horrid job, illness, religion, politics, rape, child molestation, pornography, or SEX (yes that's right no sex talk, being sexual yet tactful with your words is what women call "subtle”, and as was mentioned, gets them thinking sexually EASIER than saying it outright). Nothing NEGATIVE. You don't wanna talk about her problems or negative things, so if it comes up change the subject. Otherwise, she'll tend to associate negative things with you. It’s the same problem that talking about romance and love ect, causes, except in reverse. You don’t wanna talk about these things that she associates as GOOD with you, because it will prod her to put you into a dating "make him wait" “start a relationship” frame of reference. The same goes for negative topics. You want the topics as neutral. People underestimate the power of just getting to know each other as a comfort builder between folks, so they complicate it with LOADS of "say this, say that" armchair psychology.Just get to know each other as you convey your sexual state, and watch for hers to appear. "Where are you from?", " what do ya like bout the area", "what’s your favourite TV show?", "why do you like it?", "what do you like to do for fun", "ok well IDEALY what would you LIKE to do for fun?" (they never DO what they like for fun, but like to talk about it). Keep it light -> "getting to know each other before we ####" kinda dynamic. More important to stay in sexual state than to try to "say the right thing" or "get her to think this about me by saying this" ect. Have some ####### curiosity about people you are gonna do the wamba mamba with would ya!!!!!!!! Her imagining you doing your hobbies, watching the same TV show, going out to the same drive in ect, gets her to imagine you as a normal person, not some guy with a van, ball gag, camera equipment, and a pistol outside waiting to lure her into the lead role of a "snuff" film.The power of "me too-ing". Saying, "oh my god that's so true", or "me too I love that" ect even when it's a lie, makes you seem more "meant to be" or “compatible”. This is the best verbal technique I've come across yet. Opposites attract? BULL, people hook up with people who are in the same kind of place mentally, or at least who are somewhat agreeable with their little "model of the world".Let her get to know you. If she’s at all attracted the conversation will get 2 sided within a minute or so.BIGGEST OF ALL, don't leave, eject, walk off ect just because there is a lull in conversation. She may like you ALOT but she’s nervous and can’t think of much to say. You just haven't verbally connected yet or found out anything about each other. Do you know how many people have lost the love of their life because they didn't give it 5 more seconds???? 910,876,531 that's how many! No I don't ####### know, but GET REJECTED, don't just walk off. "make the ho say no"Not a lot of conversation material here huh? Well most guys who are getting bikini models and strippers, as well as all other women into bed, have NO scripts, NO hypnosis phooey, and NO lines. They are just acceptably attractive enough, even slightly overweight, maybe a little short, maybe a kinda odd looking, BUT GO FOR IT! They don't hide their sexuality and they persist where other men tuck tail and run.I commonly get snubbed, the cold shoulder ect or overall rejected with the women I have sex with right away, but I just persist and eventually things take a turn. You love to breath right? Well I don't care how bad a fart is lingering around you are eventually gonna say "#### I love to breath I think its worth it to smell the fart". Air = sex, bad fart smell = your love handles, bad teeth, short stature or balding head in this metaphor. Cyanide gas = morbid obesity, stinky armpits, deformities and such. They’d rather hold their breath forever = rather go without sex than have it with him.
C'mon Keerock. Haven't you ever heard of Money for Nothin' by Die Or Straits?Wolf,
You are in die or need of a capable wing man. Actually you should probably just start out being the "wing-man". Do the ugly friends for a while. Practice on the ugly ones.
You need game.![]()
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There's your first problem. This book was written for nailing British chicks.Section 9:
I will now attempt to give you some grasp of the above seductive behaviours that will create an optimum level of attraction, and some grasp of those that will make you seem a loser or move things in the wrong directions.
Sure I have seen it spelled both ways.....geez.Let's get back to the virgin.You mean dire need.Wolf,
You are in die or need of a capable wing man. Actually you should probably just start out being the "wing-man". Do the ugly friends for a while. Practice on the ugly ones.
You need game.
You bought a book on how to pick up women?a few chapters from my bible - enjoy
Section 9:
I will now attempt to give you some grasp of the above seductive behaviours that will create an optimum level of attraction, and some grasp of those that will make you seem a loser or move things in the wrong directions.
Operating under an understanding that women love sex, need their desires filled the same as men, and shouldn't be paid or rewarded for something they want to share just as much as you do, will allow you to avoid the damning behaviours covered in section 9.
9.1 Chump or champ? The chump thinks women “GIVE” a man sex because its more important to them, and they should be paid for it by means such as "dates" undeserved compliments, humour, entertainment ect. A champ knows women love sex just as much as men so therefore the gift that is given in return for sex with a woman is the sex itself. Which are you? When was the last time you complimented a woman? Was it a woman that you wanted sex with? Have you ever complimented a woman you didn't want sex with? Have you ever complimented someone for something other than their appearance? Ask yourself these questions and you’ll know if you are acting like a chump or a champ.
9.2 Do you brag around women? Well stop it if you do. If she isn't attracted to you, and even if she is, this isn't moving things into any kind of a sexual encounter. It is a waste of time and energy to brag, as everyone can see it when someone does it, and takes the claims made as lies, even if they are true. BE SEXUAL, as this serves to project without words that you are good in bed, well endowed, and worthwhile enough to be this confident. Of course don’t put yourself down either. This is very powerful knowledge that I’m giving you here, which few people know, and since I have a 130 IQ I can decipher this type of thing.
See that was bragging and it was kinda lame huh? That was a joke, and ALSO not a good idea during a seduction. Here is why......
9.3 A commonly observed scenario: a woman laughs at guy’s jokes, and then ends up having sex with him later on. Predictably, every guy there says, "She must like a guy with a sense of humour", and proceed to go out and ENTERTAIN, rather than seduce women, in hopes that she will like them SOOO much she will jump his bones right there. Not gonna happen unless she is VERY attracted. We wanna work with what looks we have and move them in the right directions for sex better than other guys, not create a non sexual rapport with jokes and funny stories.
When a woman is asked "what do you like in a guy?", she doesn’t usually say "LOOKS and GOOD SEX" or else be branded a slut. SO, she grumbles "a guy with a sense of humour". She LIKES those funny men, she doesn't HAVE SEX WITH those funny men unless they happen to be attractive as well as funny. By the way, when a woman says "confidence" that's as close to saying " a guy who knows I wanna have sex and creates the opportunity for it aggressively" as women usually get. Don't listen to what women (or men) say, but rather observe what they do, and your eyes will not deceive or confuse you like your mind’s interpretations of the words will. A sense of humour isn't a bad thing, but its not sexually motivating or progressive. Stand up comedians are often natural entertainers because they have learned that their poor looks can be accepted that way. Check stand or bar stool comedians are the same entity with less talent. At the end of the night they go home and #### the sleeve of their favourite jacket rather than a woman. Some people say "nice guys finish last", because they see the funny entertainer go home alone. While the horny aggressive "jerk" gets the woman sexually turned on and moves her into isolation with him, rather than entertaining her endlessly in public.
9.4 Payment based behaviours such as buying drinks for women at bars, giving them flowers, fixing their things, driving them places you aren’t going with her to, are all LOSER actions. Of course people like things like this, but these things conveys to her sexuality as "he isn't valid sexually because he is a poor lover or has a small penis, so he pays for sex with gifts of his time and money, he is a beta male". During ALL initial encounters with women, if requests are made for anything, ask yourself "would I do this for a causal acquaintance or male stranger?" If your answer is “no”, then don't do it. Of course you might buy a good friend accompanied to a bar a drink, but would you really buy a male stranger a drink? Didn't think so, unless it was to PAY him for something. Wanna test it out? Go buy 10 women at a bar a drink, and see if you don't walk out alone with 4-5 "thank yous”, a glare, and 4-5 waves of astonishment for your troubles. Do it 100 times and you may get a girl that's REALLY attracted to you that will engage sex with you, but you've now paid 500 dollars (5 bucks a drink) to get there. Go to a brothel if you want to pay for sex like a lowly ‘john’.
9.5 Reading her palm, doing a psychic "cold reading", doing a handwriting analysis, playing a game of some kind ARE all LOSER behaviours as well. You may get lucky and she wont decipher that you are paying her with this entertainment and brand you a poor lover or micro penis equipped man, but it STILL does not move them into a sexual direction of any kind, so don't waste the time. Besides, tampering with these mystic forces is a one-way ticket to eternity in hell, ha ha ha.
9.6 Speaking romantically or about wonderful states of mind and such may brand you a good boyfriend or husband material, which may eventually lead you to sex with her. It will go WITH her social conditioning rather than busting through it and getting to the natural woman who likes sex. However, she will most times "make you wait" or want to "date" first in this context. "Making the guy wait" is a time-honoured bull#### social conditioning that being romantic or "Don Juan" "Casanova" style will get you into 75% of the time with any given women. This is STILL paying for sex, just in a more effective though more time consuming way than other standard suck up tactics. Do this kind of thing AFTER sex if you want to see her again and pursue a long-term relationship. There is no more sure-fire way to get a woman into a romantic relationship than to have sex with her right away, because unless she has one night stands A LOT she will justify her break in conditioning with "it was love at first sight" or "we just had such a good chemistry I couldn't make my new boyfriend wait". By the way get caller id if you are gonna have a lot of one night stands, or avoid the woman knowing where you live or your phone number. The same dynamic I just wrote about will cause women to stalk you and demand relationships, if you aren't ready for one be prepared to say "get lost" a lot.
Entertainment, gimmicks and flattery can only buy you RAPPORT with women, they do not build attraction or guarantee sex. If after using something like this to get a rapport, you find yourself in bed with a girl, she would’ve been there FASTER if you hadn’t used the pandering, entertaining and ### kissing beforehand. CONSERVE YOUR TIME, creativity, and passion for women who are actually attracted to you.
9.7 DATES: NO DATES from here on out. The simple act of going on a date immediately puts her social conditioning into play HEAVY and the "make him wait" dynamic is introduced. I have NEVER been on a date with a woman, and I have had plenty of sex. Get the woman isolated with you (alone. just you and her out of public) soon after the initial approach for your "date" aka getting to know each other. I’ll discuss how to do this later on.
9.8 NO PHONE NUMBERS, from here on out, you can go out and get 10 numbers a day for 30 days, that's 300 numbers, of those 300 maybe ONE will end up in bed with you after you call. If on all 300 you had stayed there after you approached, conveyed your sexual state, waited for her to go into sexual state, and then isolated her, you would have only approached 50 tops the whole month as you would have been to preoccupied in bed with 10 of those 50, avoiding another 250 approaches. If she finds you at all attractive she will talk to you right then and there, and most likely if you play the game right go home with you that day or from that bar, or into the sex room at a party.
Of course calling a woman, buying her a gift or going on a date with her inside the context of a relationship is fine, but not before she’s proven herself attracted to you enough for sex to happen.
Section 10: Sexual state broken down.
Sexual state is THE most important thing you will learn from this guide. It is THE mind state you will be using to deal with women you want to sleep with. It is most likely the mind state you've had every time you ever sexed a woman in the past, at least as soon as the point came when you KNEW it was gonna happen. There is a certain "walks like a duck acts like a duck, must be a duck" dynamic working for you in the sexual state. If you act like her lover, act like you are in a sexual encounter and assume the behaviours and actions of a great lover, she eventually will start to think you are a waterfowl. Just kidding, of course she starts to go into the same states of mind from other sexual encounters she has had in the past, if she is at all attracted. This is what’s called "rapport congruency". You can look it up if you want to read 300 pages of dime store psychology, but suffice to say, if all the actions and states are present your mind kinda starts to assume it's the same situation, a milder form of "déjà vu".
Furthermore, when someone perceives something in someone, but isn't directly told to them verbally by the person, they tend to think its THEY who are the ones imagining it – that it is comes from within them. That's why I tell you later to not verbalize your sexual intent in any way, as when you don’t, she will more likely to think, "Why am I thinking sexually about this guy….hmmm I must want him or else I wouldn't see him as such a horny guy."
The "sexual state" is readily stepped into by imagining how you interacted with your last lover when in the bedroom before sex, or during pillow talk, and had a lustful desire for the woman. These are the things that it should encompass. These specifics are not to be used individually, but as an overall state that you go into when dealing with a woman. Read Bruce Lees Tao of Jeet Kune Do for an understanding of not focusing on specific technique but rather on overall strategy that encompasses several techniques. My method has been compared to this type of "fluid" theory, contrasting other seduction methods that are closer to classical Karate, which focuses on memorized techniques that take longer to master, and are harder to remember under stress. What follows of more of a troubleshooting guide.
10.1 Sensual eye contact (EC). Proper eye contact with a woman is an important piece of your sexual state. The "bedroom eyes" are something you will need to convey during the encounter, since you want her to develop them as well, as she gets more and more comfortable with you and begins to mirror your actions and "vibe". "Bedroom eyes" are also much more attractive than darting or fearful eyes.
10.2 Closeness, or for the nit picks "physical proximity" to her is also very important. Since you aren't gonna be seductive or sensual standing 2 feet away from her, you need to be within 6-8 inches of her - VERY CLOSE. You slowly move into this as you sense her loosening up a bit. Of course good breath is a crucial at this point. Brush you tongue and FLOSS those back molars out so your mouth doesn't smell like something that passed through the system of a morbidly obese 10-year-old boy. See "conversation" section for why not to say that last sentence in front of a woman, as well.
10.3 Touch her. Since touch is the first step in getting her comfortable with you as a sexual creature, you want to sneak this in slowly. A good progression is: hands, arms, lowers back, upper back, face (while whispering something to her) and hair, then thighs (hand placed but relatively stationary), and upper legs. You should NOT look at you hands as you touch her, as this alerts her to a "question" - "is it ok to touch there?" in dynamic. Also, her eyes will follow your eyes to the touching and it will be unnatural, thus questioned by her or rejected. Touching also shows that "confidence", and may alert her to your being good with women, a fine lover, and confident lover. It demonstrates, "I am not afraid to touch women, because women like to be touched by me", to her inner workings.
Touch early on also is a HUGE time saver, if she is so uncomfortable with you touching her right from the start as to physically or verbally stop it, NOTHING you say or do, short of saving her life is gonna get her into a sexual state for you.
10.4 Tone of voice should be that of a sexual tone. You can’t run up yelling like Adolf Hitler at a nazi youth rally speech, or mumbling and stammering like Woody Allen. NOT SEXY. Not "talks like a duck". Imagine you are talking to a former or current girlfriend in a bed and about to have sex. You soften your voice, you deepen your voice, you speak slower and with an inflection of optimism and kindness. Not your regular speaking voice but YOUR sensual sexual voice. They were right when they said "just be yourself" they just never told you what "self" to be.
Simply sliding into the sexual state will usually encompass the above behaviours inside of itself. Overall these are the medium sized chunks of sexual state, the large being "be horny", and the small likely being to many to ever be fully understood. The small chunks may encompass micro facial expressions, body positioning, or even ESP (extra sensory perception) . Its like how knowing there are vitamins A, C, D in a fruit, and taking those things out and using them in a pill, doesn't give you all of the undiscovered things that are inside a fruit that may be beneficial. We just KNOW A,C,D are essential for good health. It's the same here, we know that sections 10.1,2,3 of this guide are the medium chunks of what’s essential, and we know that eating the fruit is essential (natural sexual state). Lets just live naturally rather than trying to condense it all into a pill or formula and ENJOY eating the fruit (being horny) that gives us all we need.
Now, advanced deal here. Not really a part of sexual state itself, but an obstacle to it sometimes and dealing with it.
10.5 State matching. Quickly notice her state before you approach, is she UP, kinda down, or laughing a lot? STAY in the sexual state, but keep your actions kind of similar to hers so as to not break her state entirely, causing you to be seen as intrusive (breaking rapport). You want to convey the sexual state, but you don't wanna break her state either. This is another reason lone wolfs are easier to go for, as they usually aren't in some kind of "group state" of ruckus or laughter ect. You can approach women in strange states by matching theirs once you get far more advanced, but go more for the calm ones at first. This takes a butload of practice to get down, but as I said this is a trouble-shooting section and not techniques to obsess on.
As an example of state matching WHILE conveying sexual state: Imagine your girlfriend just got home from work she’s EXCITED as hell about a promotion she got at work. Now you've been waiting all day to have sex with her, but you wouldn't just walk up and go sexual on her because it might break her state and cause her to kind of reel back. Instead, you would put your arms around her and say some sort of “wow that's great”, in about half the excitement level she has. This will curb her excited state slightly enough for her to begin recognizing your sexual state.
So say she’s really down because her cat just died, you kinda get a little bit down too, but not completely as down as she is. This makes her kinda follow you into the less depressed state, enough so that she can pickup on your sexual state. She of course assumes it’s HER sexual state, since you aren't saying anything sexual and she just perceives it. So, "I must be horny cause I’m so sad" or "getting excited about this promotion got me excited about other things as well" is what she thinks. Of course it works a little less on strangers than a girlfriend, as they don't yet see you as a sexual outlet (except by virtue of being a man and having a penis). So it takes them some time to say "why am I horny for this guy".
Simple huh? No? Sorry, this last one takes some field practice to get down.
Section 11:
What to say. What you say isn't that important – rather, its how you present yourself to her. Still you need to talk or be labelled an alien so here goes. Simple advice and techniques, as the sexual state, is FAR more important to convey than what you say to her is.
The opener, as I said can just be simple a "hi", "hello", or "you from around here" ect. Introduce yourself at some point with your FULL name, first and last. People used to do this and it had a touch of class, dignity, pride and authority. Now its like, "I’m Dan, I don't have a last name I’m just Dan, I’m simple Dan ". Also being on first and last name basis is good, as she won’t feel like a "slut" for having sex with some guy who she can’t delude herself to think she knows. Get used to introducing yourself this way all the time and within 6 months it’ll be natural so you don't have to think about it.
Say her first name a few times after meeting her, like before a question - "Becky, how do you find yourself in Los Angeles?" Many psychologists say that hearing your name from someone builds a connection, as they usually only hear it from friends, family, and people they like. Don't obsess on these small details, but if you can remember to work it into your convo, great. So long as its not at the expense of breaking your sexual state, and failing to convey that to her. Might be a buncha pop psychology bull#### anyway. Try to get used to doing it though, as it can’t really hurt anything and may help.
The conversation. You don't need to worry about what you aren't saying to get into women’s pants. It’s what you’re saying to keep you -out of them- that you need be concerned about. Try not to swear so much you ####### #######, its not really sexy. Don't talk about puke, ####, piss, ejaculate, death, your horrid job, her horrid job, illness, religion, politics, rape, child molestation, pornography, or SEX (yes that's right no sex talk, being sexual yet tactful with your words is what women call "subtle”, and as was mentioned, gets them thinking sexually EASIER than saying it outright). Nothing NEGATIVE. You don't wanna talk about her problems or negative things, so if it comes up change the subject. Otherwise, she'll tend to associate negative things with you. It’s the same problem that talking about romance and love ect, causes, except in reverse. You don’t wanna talk about these things that she associates as GOOD with you, because it will prod her to put you into a dating "make him wait" “start a relationship” frame of reference. The same goes for negative topics. You want the topics as neutral. People underestimate the power of just getting to know each other as a comfort builder between folks, so they complicate it with LOADS of "say this, say that" armchair psychology.
Just get to know each other as you convey your sexual state, and watch for hers to appear. "Where are you from?", " what do ya like bout the area", "what’s your favourite TV show?", "why do you like it?", "what do you like to do for fun", "ok well IDEALY what would you LIKE to do for fun?" (they never DO what they like for fun, but like to talk about it). Keep it light -> "getting to know each other before we ####" kinda dynamic. More important to stay in sexual state than to try to "say the right thing" or "get her to think this about me by saying this" ect. Have some ####### curiosity about people you are gonna do the wamba mamba with would ya!!!!!!!! Her imagining you doing your hobbies, watching the same TV show, going out to the same drive in ect, gets her to imagine you as a normal person, not some guy with a van, ball gag, camera equipment, and a pistol outside waiting to lure her into the lead role of a "snuff" film.
The power of "me too-ing". Saying, "oh my god that's so true", or "me too I love that" ect even when it's a lie, makes you seem more "meant to be" or “compatible”. This is the best verbal technique I've come across yet. Opposites attract? BULL, people hook up with people who are in the same kind of place mentally, or at least who are somewhat agreeable with their little "model of the world".
Let her get to know you. If she’s at all attracted the conversation will get 2 sided within a minute or so.
BIGGEST OF ALL, don't leave, eject, walk off ect just because there is a lull in conversation. She may like you ALOT but she’s nervous and can’t think of much to say. You just haven't verbally connected yet or found out anything about each other. Do you know how many people have lost the love of their life because they didn't give it 5 more seconds???? 910,876,531 that's how many! No I don't ####### know, but GET REJECTED, don't just walk off. "make the ho say no"
Not a lot of conversation material here huh? Well most guys who are getting bikini models and strippers, as well as all other women into bed, have NO scripts, NO hypnosis phooey, and NO lines. They are just acceptably attractive enough, even slightly overweight, maybe a little short, maybe a kinda odd looking, BUT GO FOR IT! They don't hide their sexuality and they persist where other men tuck tail and run.
I commonly get snubbed, the cold shoulder ect or overall rejected with the women I have sex with right away, but I just persist and eventually things take a turn. You love to breath right? Well I don't care how bad a fart is lingering around you are eventually gonna say "#### I love to breath I think its worth it to smell the fart". Air = sex, bad fart smell = your love handles, bad teeth, short stature or balding head in this metaphor. Cyanide gas = morbid obesity, stinky armpits, deformities and such. They’d rather hold their breath forever = rather go without sex than have it with him.

or CanadianThere's your first problem. This book was written for nailing British chicks.Section 9:
I will now attempt to give you some grasp of the above seductive behaviours that will create an optimum level of attraction, and some grasp of those that will make you seem a loser or move things in the wrong directions.
If it was "die or", it was wrong, fwiw.Sure I have seen it spelled both ways.....geez.
Let's get back to the virgin.
Did I miss a memo?9.3 A commonly observed scenario: a woman laughs at guy’s jokes, and then ends up having sex with him later on.
I'm a funny guy. 
Sure I have seen it spelled both ways.....geez.Let's get back to the virgin.You mean dire need.Wolf,
You are in die or need of a capable wing man. Actually you should probably just start out being the "wing-man". Do the ugly friends for a while. Practice on the ugly ones.
You need game.

FYI.. your avatar is crazy hot. THAT is the sort of #### that Wolf should be getting going... instead he's on his 3rd bottle of Jer(k)gen's hand lotion....Two things that have come to mind from reading this thread....
1. Wolf doesn't have any game. We all pretty much know this now. He's playing the good guy role where he writes to her and finds out what she likes and doesn't like and blah blah blah. This rarely works and you'll regret this later in life. You'll wish you had just gone for it instead of worrying about 7+7<9 or whatever.
2. When I was 19, you tried to get some action one weekend and if that didn't work you just waited and gave it another try next weekend. Not a big deal, that's part of life. There were no message boards full of 30+ year old guys that you would write to about your failed attempts to get some.![]()
Wasn't a grammatical error at all. Was more an error of ignorance than anything else.May I have everyone's attention,
Earlier in the post I made a gramatical error. I would like to apologize to anyone who may have been offended. I will be more careful on future postings.
Once again my deepest apologies,
The "Banker"
Editted for grammar
I think we should start a new thread called "I got a saying wrong" when putting it into written form. OMFG!!!He was looking for "dire"Did you make it up?It's a saying.......
Translation
He really needs a wing man.
ROTFLMAOWolf,
3 words for you....YOU ARE GAY.
You couldn't get nailed in woodshop.
We need a :blueballs: smilie for it to make any sense.Just got here. Who can give me a synopsis (or even a smilie recap)?
Wolf,
You know I've been pulling for you this whole time. You now have one week to bag the Andie McDowell look-alike. If you do not, you are gayer than a Richard Simmons / Nathan Lane oil wrestling match with Air Supply playing in the background. Don't let me down here, dude. I expect you to spend that week playing so much "Barbecue" that people will think you're Bobby Flay when you get back.
What we really need is for wolf to post a pic of himself to determine if he is wasting his time or not!I will be more careful on future postings.
Keep trying.Editted for grammar
I am pretty confident going into the week (75% chance) - expect an update July 11th (when I return to civilization) so set your FBG thread alarm for the inevitable "update?" and I will see what I can do about getting bikini pics - but no promises.Wolf,
You know I've been pulling for you this whole time. You now have one week to bag the Andie McDowell look-alike. If you do not, you are gayer than a Richard Simmons / Nathan Lane oil wrestling match with Air Supply playing in the background. Don't let me down here, dude. I expect you to spend that week playing so much "Barbecue" that people will think you're Bobby Flay when you get back.
Evil grin,That's nice.....but Wolf doesn't need any help "pulling it"Wolf,
You know I've been pulling for you this whole time. You now have one week to bag the Andie McDowell look-alike. If you do not, you are gayer than a Richard Simmons / Nathan Lane oil wrestling match with Air Supply playing in the background. Don't let me down here, dude. I expect you to spend that week playing so much "Barbecue" that people will think you're Bobby Flay when you get back.![]()
What we really need is for wolf to post a pic of himself to determine if he is wasting his time or not!
I agree with this wholeheartedly.Wolf, from what source is the text you posted taken?Not enough attention is being paid to the fact that Wolf apparently has a book or some other written source on how to pick up women. I believe it came as a 2 for 1 special with his pocket ######.
Link to Wolf's "Bible"I agree with this wholeheartedly.Wolf, from what source is the text you posted taken?Not enough attention is being paid to the fact that Wolf apparently has a book or some other written source on how to pick up women. I believe it came as a 2 for 1 special with his pocket ######.
Good find. I sincerely hope you didn't have that bookmarked. Luckily for you there is a nice 9 minute gap between posts.Link to Wolf's "Bible"I agree with this wholeheartedly.Wolf, from what source is the text you posted taken?Not enough attention is being paid to the fact that Wolf apparently has a book or some other written source on how to pick up women. I believe it came as a 2 for 1 special with his pocket ######.
Good find. I sincerely hope you didn't have that bookmarked. Luckily for you there is a nice 9 minute gap between posts.Link to Wolf's "Bible"I agree with this wholeheartedly.Wolf, from what source is the text you posted taken?Not enough attention is being paid to the fact that Wolf apparently has a book or some other written source on how to pick up women. I believe it came as a 2 for 1 special with his pocket ######.
Google is my friend.