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***Howard Stern*** (1 Viewer)

Great to hear Hank again on the show. He was always good...

How much money do you think Jackie turned down when he quit?

 
jamny said:
Great to hear Hank again on the show. He was always good...

How much money do you think Jackie turned down when he quit?
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At least $615K. Interview with Jackie (with transcript): http://mixergy.com/interviews/jackie-martling-jokeland/

Jackie: The main thing of this story is everybody thinks I’m an idiot, so I want to give some background because I was totally fried. I couldn’t make myself come home and take a nap, which is the irony of that now is I’m 67 years old and all I want to do is take a nap. When I wake up in the morning, the only thing I’m thinking about is when can I lie down. But back then I’d come home, [inaudible 00:04:31], I’d work on my computer, me and Nancy would watch “Law and Order”. We’d watch “ER” and then they’d tease the news. I’d get to bed at 11:20 at 12:00 up at 4:20. By Wednesday I wanted to kill somebody.

So it’s really fried, so there was a lot of different things pulling at me. I knew I could never quit drinking if I was on the show. I wasn’t sure how bad my problem was or wasn’t, but there were a lot of intermingling of the factors. Then they put another writer next to me and there were just icky stuff in my life and I couldn’t break the logjam. And I said, “You know what? I’m going to ask for a certain amount of money.” And in my mind, I knew it was a five year deal. In my mind, I wanted to make a million dollars a year on average.

Andrew: Okay.

Jackie: When I left I was making 580. And we were printing, not we, they were printing money. Forget it, it was crazy how much money was coming in. I was making like 580 plus what I think the E-channel was giving me like 50,000 or something. And listen right now I’d kill for 50,000 or something else. I don’t mean to sound …

Andrew: Because they would also cut up the show and show video of it on E in half hour segments. So that was another 50 and what were you asking for, a million? What did they offer you?

Jackie: Well, I wanted a million on the average, so what I wanted was 809, a million, million one, a million two, that’s what we were going to ask for. So my lawyer started the million dollars a year. I was making like 578, and the first thing they offered me was, I think, six, whatever, 615 or something whatever 7% …

Andrew: I see.

Jackie: … sales ranges which is just like with the number one radio show in the history of the world, and depending on who you talk to, I was kind of valuable to the show. Some people think more than other and some people think less than others but the bottom line is that I was a necessary element. And for the amount of money we were making, it wasn’t one of those things I always tell people.
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650K I guess was the final offer:

Jackie: I was making 578 and I probably shouldn’t be talking figures but who cares, it’s so long ago.

Andrew: Who cares at this point?

Jackie: It was, and I wanted, and they offered me it was 616 or 620, whatever it was, and my lawyer said, “You know, we wanted a million.” And they came back and said,”All right, 650. That’s our final offer.” And he said, “All right. I think he said 900 and that was in January of 2001. We never heard from them again. And I’m sitting there on the show every day and after …
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Andrew: And so your lawyer goes to them and says, “Hey, how about 900?” They don’t say anything and then you walk off?

Jackie: And so two months later, my lawyer says, “You know, what are we going to do. They’re at a stalemate. They wouldn’t return the call, they wouldn’t…” it was like all the way or the highway, 650 or nothing. Which in a fair way 650 is a healthy leap from 580. I mean, I’m not lying to anybody that was a lot of money, but I was shocked and just not even giving me the courtesy of negotiating. So we went in and talked to the guy and said, “Listen, Jackie is not coming in Monday, because we are at stalemate here. And he said, “Well, I think you may get a problem. I think you’re making a mistake.” And we said, “We think you are making a mistake because you know Jackie is important to the show.”
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Long Ball Larry said:
650K I guess was the final offer:

Jackie: I was making 578 and I probably shouldn’t be talking figures but who cares, it’s so long ago.

Andrew: Who cares at this point?

Jackie: It was, and I wanted, and they offered me it was 616 or 620, whatever it was, and my lawyer said, “You know, we wanted a million.” And they came back and said,”All right, 650. That’s our final offer.” And he said, “All right. I think he said 900 and that was in January of 2001. We never heard from them again. And I’m sitting there on the show every day and after …

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Andrew: And so your lawyer goes to them and says, “Hey, how about 900?” They don’t say anything and then you walk off?

Jackie: And so two months later, my lawyer says, “You know, what are we going to do. They’re at a stalemate. They wouldn’t return the call, they wouldn’t…” it was like all the way or the highway, 650 or nothing. Which in a fair way 650 is a healthy leap from 580. I mean, I’m not lying to anybody that was a lot of money, but I was shocked and just not even giving me the courtesy of negotiating. So we went in and talked to the guy and said, “Listen, Jackie is not coming in Monday, because we are at stalemate here. And he said, “Well, I think you may get a problem. I think you’re making a mistake.” And we said, “We think you are making a mistake because you know Jackie is important to the show.”
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Wow...thx for the info.

That's crazy money to pass up.

I was thinking it was in the 250 range

 
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Does he make anything now?

Howard must really hate him to not throw him a bone from the Sirius pile.

Edit: of course everybody else hung on and he didn't.

 
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Capella said:
Does he make anything now?

Howard must really hate him to not throw him a bone from the Sirius pile.

Edit: of course everybody else hung on and he didn't.
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He had been gone for 5 years when they got to Sirius. He has (had?) the Joke hunt, which at least let him promote stuff.

Jackie was continually a problem when it came to negotiations and was a no-show on more than one occasion when he didn't get what he wanted, which really pissed Howard off. None of the rest of the core ever did any #### like that. So I think that he considered Jackie to be somewhat disloyal.

Of course, he let a heroin addict sleep through the show, but ultimately it's about giving content. If Jackie had come in and #####ed about his contract for days, rather than sitting out, and provided good content, all probably would have been forgiven.

 
What do the writers write on the show? Do they just write bits or do they write jokes/ideas in real time that Howard delivers and riffs on?

I never found Jackie or Benji particularly funny, but I assume they are good writers. Writing and performing are definitely different skill sets. but Jackie in particular thought of himself as a performer.

 
jackie screwed up and thought he was irreplaceable. Benji had already gotten into the studio to write for howard (through Jackie), likely bc 1) that fat ### is funny and 2) Jackie had already done this before. Jackie walks out, Benji moves up, and then all they nerd is to fill the jackie chair. Artie was great, but the truth is they didn't really need another voice (or better put, they rotate Ronnie, JD, Sal, and richard around the chair at this point)

 
jeez did Jackie screw up. Staying with the show he woulda probably banked like another 20 million+ by now.

He actually believed he was going to make it without the show, so sad, he's done nothing of note since he quit.

The big money was Sirius, if he stayed till then woulda been loaded.

 
Fennis said:
What do the writers write on the show? Do they just write bits or do they write jokes/ideas in real time that Howard delivers and riffs on?

I never found Jackie or Benji particularly funny, but I assume they are good writers. Writing and performing are definitely different skill sets. but Jackie in particular thought of himself as a performer.
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Both.

Yes, they both have a lot of funny ideas that Howard is then able to shape and improvise around.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
Fennis said:
What do the writers write on the show? Do they just write bits or do they write jokes/ideas in real time that Howard delivers and riffs on?

I never found Jackie or Benji particularly funny, but I assume they are good writers. Writing and performing are definitely different skill sets. but Jackie in particular thought of himself as a performer.
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Both.

Yes, they both have a lot of funny ideas that Howard is then able to shape and improvise around.
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Either Howard has gotten a lot better at making the jokes he gets handed his own or Benji is more in sync than Jackie was with Howard. I think the latter. It was easy to tell a lot of times when something Howard said was from Jackie. And not just because Jackie always laughed to make sure you knew it was his.

So Benji probably makes at least million a year now, no?

Any guesses (or facts) on Robin, Fred and Gary?

 
Speculation is Robin between $2-$5 million and Fred and Gary around $1 million.

Not too sure about Benji. Seems completely ridiculous that he could make $1 million, but I guess that would be in line with Jackie and Artie.

 
I'd be surprised if Benji makes much more then 250.

He was complaining about how Elisa wants to go out to eat all the time and he can't afford it.

 
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Long Ball Larry said:
Speculation is Robin between $2-$5 million and Fred and Gary around $1 million.

Not too sure about Benji. Seems completely ridiculous that he could make $1 million, but I guess that would be in line with Jackie and Artie.
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i think that is WAY lowballing, especially for Fred and Gary. would be shocked if Fred/Gary aren't pulling in 3+ million a year, and Robin probably 5+ million.

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
Long Ball Larry said:
Speculation is Robin between $2-$5 million and Fred and Gary around $1 million.

Not too sure about Benji. Seems completely ridiculous that he could make $1 million, but I guess that would be in line with Jackie and Artie.
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i think that is WAY lowballing, especially for Fred and Gary. would be shocked if Fred/Gary aren't pulling in 3+ million a year, and Robin probably 5+ million.
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Yeah, I think this is more accurate

 
So imagine how scary it is wondering if Howard will re-sign.

I don't think there's any doubt he'll sign another contract. Might only be 3 years though.

 
jamny said:
So imagine how scary it is wondering if Howard will re-sign.

I don't think there's any doubt he'll sign another contract. Might only be 3 years though.
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Scary for the 2nd/3rd tier guys, but the main crew could easily retire and live out their lives comfortably.

But yeah, with him saying he's done with AGT it pretty much means he's gonna keep going.

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
jamny said:
So imagine how scary it is wondering if Howard will re-sign.

I don't think there's any doubt he'll sign another contract. Might only be 3 years though.
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Scary for the 2nd/3rd tier guys, but the main crew could easily retire and live out their lives comfortably.

But yeah, with him saying he's done with AGT it pretty much means he's gonna keep going.
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Forgot about those guys, SiriusXM would take a huge hit. They will lose a significant number of subscribers.

 
I would keep my sub if he left. I enjoy what they offer

I think there is no doubt he is staying on the air. I am not so sure it's with sirius though. The lack of original stuff outside of his show and Rileys is evident of that

 
AcerFC said:
I would keep my sub if he left. I enjoy what they offer

I think there is no doubt he is staying on the air. I am not so sure it's with sirius though. The lack of original stuff outside of his show and Rileys is evident of that
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Once he lost the lawsuit, he saw zero reason to provide original content on 101 to try and bring in more subscribers. He is paid a flat fee to run the 2 channels and why spend any of that money on things people want if it will not get him anything.

 
Gotta love Beetle..great appearance.

And forgot to mention but I was dying when Howard was doing his parents voices as he blew his father...omg. :lmao:

 
When he does his parents, it's my single favorite part of the show. I almost wish he did it more often, but I also think the reason why it always strikes me so funny is that he DOESN'T overdo it.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
When he does his parents, it's my single favorite part of the show. I almost wish he did it more often, but I also think the reason why it always strikes me so funny is that he DOESN'T overdo it.
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I can hear him talk about blueberries in yogurt every day. It's funny, and sad, because he captures them as they get older too.

 
Was Michael Rapaport serious this morning?

As lame as it is to talk "trash" in a fantasy football league, (which is obviously mostly luck, especially when you're in a 10 team league) its about 100,000x worse to do so when your 12 year old son and his friend are drafting and running your team for you.

I don't know the guy outside his movies, but unless this was 100% schtick to try to get people riled up, he might be the biggest tool on the planet

 
TLEF316 said:
Was Michael Rapaport serious this morning?

As lame as it is to talk "trash" in a fantasy football league, (which is obviously mostly luck, especially when you're in a 10 team league) its about 100,000x worse to do so when your 12 year old son and his friend are drafting and running your team for you.

I don't know the guy outside his movies, but unless this was 100% schtick to try to get people riled up, he might be the biggest tool on the planet
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That's been his shtick for a while now. I'm about 100% sure it was all shtick.

 
TLEF316 said:
Was Michael Rapaport serious this morning?

As lame as it is to talk "trash" in a fantasy football league, (which is obviously mostly luck, especially when you're in a 10 team league) its about 100,000x worse to do so when your 12 year old son and his friend are drafting and running your team for you.

I don't know the guy outside his movies, but unless this was 100% schtick to try to get people riled up, he might be the biggest tool on the planet
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He portrays this image as an enormous Knicks fan...he directed a 30 for 30 on the 70s Knicks, he's incorporated the Knicks into some of his roles. But honestly I think it's all bull####. I was standing on a corner in midtown waiting to cross and realized he was standing next to me. This was a few months ago on the day of the NBA draft lottery. I asked him if he thought they'd end up with the #1 pick and he had no idea what I was talking about, and he said he didn't realize they had a chance to get it. I mean come on...it was the biggest storyline of the season. I walked with him for a couple blocks telling him about the top guys available. Didn't mention Porzingis of course.

 
jamny said:
I like him but mostly because I believe it's just ball busting schtick.
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yeah, pretty clear he's just busting balls, and the guys on the show ripping on him are as well, it's all for fun. He's be an awesome guy to have in a FF league, who cares if his 12 year old son runs the team.

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
jamny said:
I like him but mostly because I believe it's just ball busting schtick.
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yeah, pretty clear he's just busting balls, and the guys on the show ripping on him are as well, it's all for fun. He's be an awesome guy to have in a FF league, who cares if his 12 year old son runs the team.
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Exactly. I've played in leagues with guys that were relentless like that and saw how it wore on some others but I always thought it was a positive for the enjoyment.
 
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