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How's the Jets decision to go with Favre looking now? (1 Viewer)

Its the coach...
There is a report (more like an opinion) from BobGlauber over at Newsday that if they choke the season away (just like the Mets are fond of doing recently.... maybe there is something in the NY/NJ water) Mangini is gone. Of course Favre is referenced in that - but really it's the abysmal play calling. Favre or not, they've lost more due to coaching than QB play.
 
Its the coach...
Of course. It couldn't be a good trade by the Packers. :bs:
:lmao: I have no dog in this hunt fan wise or even FF wise, but it is funny to see a Packers fan enjoying the trade in any way. The Jets went from 4-12 to 9-6 and may still make the playoffs and just a couple weeks ago after beating the Titans looked like the team to beat in the AFC. The Packers went from 13-3 to 5-9 and nowhere close to playoff contention. Seems to me pretty easy to see that the +5/6 win Jets got the better of the deal than the -6/7/8 win Packers. Talk about glass half full.
 
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Its the coach...
Of course. It couldn't be a good trade by the Packers. :goodposting:
:bag: I have no dog in this hunt fan wise or even FF wise, but it is funny to see a Packers fan enjoying the trade in any way. The Jets went from 4-12 to 9-6 and may still make the playoffs and just a couple weeks ago after beating the Titans looked like the team to beat in the AFC. The Packers went from 13-3 to 5-9 and nowhere close to playoff contention. Seems to me pretty easy to see that the +5/6 win Jets got the better of the deal than the -6/7/8 win Packers. Talk about glass half full.
The Dolphins look to have the best end out of that deal. Gave up nothing more than a contract and got Pennington.The Jets gave up a 3rd right now, which could become a 2nd if they make the playoffs. For a 39 year old QB.They got the hype out of him, got the excitement for sure. But over the past few weeks (along with other parts of their game sucking) they got poor play from Favre out of it.To just quote win totals is one of the most simplistic views out there and does not get close to being the whole picture as to who to what end of that deal.In the end, all 3 teams seem to have come out of it pretty good.GB got to see that Rodgers can handle the load as a starting QB in the NFL. Yes, their record dipped, but little of that, IMO, is due to Rodgers and not other factors involved. It appears to have been the right decision for the Packers. 3rd rounder is ok, 2nd would be nice.The Jets got rejuvenated a bit. it seems to be crumbling lately, but with one game left, they at least have a chance at the postseason. Not all of that is Favre though. But he has been a big factor.The Dolphins gave up next to nothing and got a starting QB who has played pretty well for them.
 
Its the coach...
Of course. It couldn't be a good trade by the Packers. :goodposting:
:bag: I have no dog in this hunt fan wise or even FF wise, but it is funny to see a Packers fan enjoying the trade in any way. The Jets went from 4-12 to 9-6 and may still make the playoffs and just a couple weeks ago after beating the Titans looked like the team to beat in the AFC. The Packers went from 13-3 to 5-9 and nowhere close to playoff contention. Seems to me pretty easy to see that the +5/6 win Jets got the better of the deal than the -6/7/8 win Packers. Talk about glass half full.
GB got to see that Rodgers can handle the load as a starting QB in the NFL. Yes, their record dipped, but little of that, IMO, is due to Rodgers and not other factors involved. It appears to have been the right decision for the Packers. 3rd rounder is ok, 2nd would be nice.
The Packers record did more than take a dip.... it took a severe nosedive that has left the team with seveal questions marks heading into next year. That nosedive has put Ted Thompson directly on the hotseat for 2009.- One more loss means this Packers team will set the 90-year team record for biggest drop-off in victories from one season to the next, a sobering record of ineffectiveness.

-- Two more losses would mean a 1-8 finish, the worst over the final nine games of a season in 50 years and tied for the worst in the history of the team.

Even during the lean years, coach Dan Devine never finished worse than 2-5-2. Bart Starr, Forrest Gregg and Lindy Infante, meanwhile, never finished worse than 2-7 as head coaches. This year’s team needs one more victory just to reach that dreadful level.

 
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Its the coach...
Of course. It couldn't be a good trade by the Packers. :)
:lmao: I have no dog in this hunt fan wise or even FF wise, but it is funny to see a Packers fan enjoying the trade in any way. The Jets went from 4-12 to 9-6 and may still make the playoffs and just a couple weeks ago after beating the Titans looked like the team to beat in the AFC. The Packers went from 13-3 to 5-9 and nowhere close to playoff contention. Seems to me pretty easy to see that the +5/6 win Jets got the better of the deal than the -6/7/8 win Packers. Talk about glass half full.
Not enjoying the trade, enjoying blaming the coach. Admit it may have been a good trade. Take responsibility.
 
Its the coach...
Of course. It couldn't be a good trade by the Packers. :pickle:
:pickle: I have no dog in this hunt fan wise or even FF wise, but it is funny to see a Packers fan enjoying the trade in any way. The Jets went from 4-12 to 9-6 and may still make the playoffs and just a couple weeks ago after beating the Titans looked like the team to beat in the AFC. The Packers went from 13-3 to 5-9 and nowhere close to playoff contention. Seems to me pretty easy to see that the +5/6 win Jets got the better of the deal than the -6/7/8 win Packers. Talk about glass half full.
Not enjoying the trade, enjoying blaming the coach.
You really have no clue about Mangini and the Jets.
 
The Packers record did more than take a dip.... it took a severe nosedive that has left the team with seveal questions marks heading into next year. That nosedive has put Ted Thompson directly on the hotseat for 2009.

- One more loss means this Packers team will set the 90-year team record for biggest drop-off in victories from one season to the next, a sobering record of ineffectiveness.

-- Two more losses would mean a 1-8 finish, the worst over the final nine games of a season in 50 years and tied for the worst in the history of the team.

Even during the lean years, coach Dan Devine never finished worse than 2-5-2. Bart Starr, Forrest Gregg and Lindy Infante, meanwhile, never finished worse than 2-7 as head coaches. This year’s team needs one more victory just to reach that dreadful level.
Link to anyone in the Packers organization saying Ted is on the hot set. The rest of this sounds plagiarized.
 
The Packers record did more than take a dip.... it took a severe nosedive that has left the team with seveal questions marks heading into next year. That nosedive has put Ted Thompson directly on the hotseat for 2009.

- One more loss means this Packers team will set the 90-year team record for biggest drop-off in victories from one season to the next, a sobering record of ineffectiveness.

-- Two more losses would mean a 1-8 finish, the worst over the final nine games of a season in 50 years and tied for the worst in the history of the team.

Even during the lean years, coach Dan Devine never finished worse than 2-5-2. Bart Starr, Forrest Gregg and Lindy Infante, meanwhile, never finished worse than 2-7 as head coaches. This year’s team needs one more victory just to reach that dreadful level.
Link to anyone in the Packers organization saying Ted is on the hot set. The rest of this sounds plagiarized.
Are you that blinded by your homersim that you don't read the Packer beat reporters from the Journal Sentinel or Press Gazette? After this season Thompson is under a lot of pressure to perform next season including his draft. That has been written about over and over. His job is safe for now but if they perform like this next year his job is in jeopardy.Lastly, the rest isn't plagarized. The link was posted in several threads and if you want the link I would be happy to provide it.

 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.

 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
Sure...why not?? I am here to be entertained...What am I going to wear instead? My Foley, O'Donnell or Clemens jersey?? As long as he does the franchise right, he helped this team after a big drop. Parcells, for example, came and went within a few years; but he put the francise in a position to be successful over the next decade. Will Favre do the same? Probably not...but I have enjoyed the "product" this season and all it cost us was a crap shoot pick in the draft.There are 32 teams in the NFL and only one can win it all each year. I would rather have one exciting year than five years of mediocrity...however this turns out, it has been exciting.

On the Penny note, I was one of the few backers of Penny, but realized his brand of football had worn out its welcome (whether right or wrong). I flat-out love the guy and as much as it pains me he is successful as a Dolphin, I am glad he rebounded. I think he caught lightning in a bottle and would be surprised if it went beyond this year, but I do wish him well.

 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
Sure...why not?? I am here to be entertained...What am I going to wear instead? My Foley, O'Donnell or Clemens jersey?? As long as he does the franchise right, he helped this team after a big drop. Parcells, for example, came and went within a few years; but he put the francise in a position to be successful over the next decade. Will Favre do the same? Probably not...but I have enjoyed the "product" this season and all it cost us was a crap shoot pick in the draft.There are 32 teams in the NFL and only one can win it all each year. I would rather have one exciting year than five years of mediocrity...however this turns out, it has been exciting.

On the Penny note, I was one of the few backers of Penny, but realized his brand of football had worn out its welcome (whether right or wrong). I flat-out love the guy and as much as it pains me he is successful as a Dolphin, I am glad he rebounded. I think he caught lightning in a bottle and would be surprised if it went beyond this year, but I do wish him well.
Awesome post. It is too bad that some Packer fans have turned their backs on a QB that Green Bay will never see the likes of again!
 
favre has been terrible since the Titans game. His arm looks weak and tired. Im ready for the Brett Ratliff era to start in 09, and I think(hope) a lot of Jets fans are with me. I think we could have been just as good with Pennington, and the Dolphins would have been a lot worse had Pennington never left NY. Add that the Jets are on the hook for pick and it seems like the Jets didnt make out too well to me. The Packers made the right decision to let Favre seek a trade and see what they have in Rodgers. Yes the Packers havent had a great year, but after watching Favre in every game this season, its my opinion that the Packers wouldnt have been in contention this year even had he stayed. Despite the team record, I doubt there are a lot of Packers fans that are not excited about the upside of Rodgers. Favre sold some tickets and Jerseys in NY, and got some fans(like me) excited, but at the end of the day hes a legend that cant perform to the expectations of his status and has become mediocre.

 
Its the coach...
Of course. It couldn't be a good trade by the Packers. :D
:lmao: I have no dog in this hunt fan wise or even FF wise, but it is funny to see a Packers fan enjoying the trade in any way. The Jets went from 4-12 to 9-6 and may still make the playoffs and just a couple weeks ago after beating the Titans looked like the team to beat in the AFC. The Packers went from 13-3 to 5-9 and nowhere close to playoff contention. Seems to me pretty easy to see that the +5/6 win Jets got the better of the deal than the -6/7/8 win Packers. Talk about glass half full.
GB got to see that Rodgers can handle the load as a starting QB in the NFL. Yes, their record dipped, but little of that, IMO, is due to Rodgers and not other factors involved. It appears to have been the right decision for the Packers. 3rd rounder is ok, 2nd would be nice.
The Packers record did more than take a dip.... it took a severe nosedive that has left the team with seveal questions marks heading into next year. That nosedive has put Ted Thompson directly on the hotseat for 2009.- One more loss means this Packers team will set the 90-year team record for biggest drop-off in victories from one season to the next, a sobering record of ineffectiveness.

-- Two more losses would mean a 1-8 finish, the worst over the final nine games of a season in 50 years and tied for the worst in the history of the team.

Even during the lean years, coach Dan Devine never finished worse than 2-5-2. Bart Starr, Forrest Gregg and Lindy Infante, meanwhile, never finished worse than 2-7 as head coaches. This year’s team needs one more victory just to reach that dreadful level.
Do you just have that little bit of data saved...hoping someone cares next time you post it?
 
Its the coach...
Of course. It couldn't be a good trade by the Packers. :D
:lmao: I have no dog in this hunt fan wise or even FF wise, but it is funny to see a Packers fan enjoying the trade in any way. The Jets went from 4-12 to 9-6 and may still make the playoffs and just a couple weeks ago after beating the Titans looked like the team to beat in the AFC. The Packers went from 13-3 to 5-9 and nowhere close to playoff contention. Seems to me pretty easy to see that the +5/6 win Jets got the better of the deal than the -6/7/8 win Packers. Talk about glass half full.
GB got to see that Rodgers can handle the load as a starting QB in the NFL. Yes, their record dipped, but little of that, IMO, is due to Rodgers and not other factors involved. It appears to have been the right decision for the Packers. 3rd rounder is ok, 2nd would be nice.
The Packers record did more than take a dip.... it took a severe nosedive that has left the team with seveal questions marks heading into next year. That nosedive has put Ted Thompson directly on the hotseat for 2009.- One more loss means this Packers team will set the 90-year team record for biggest drop-off in victories from one season to the next, a sobering record of ineffectiveness.

-- Two more losses would mean a 1-8 finish, the worst over the final nine games of a season in 50 years and tied for the worst in the history of the team.

Even during the lean years, coach Dan Devine never finished worse than 2-5-2. Bart Starr, Forrest Gregg and Lindy Infante, meanwhile, never finished worse than 2-7 as head coaches. This year’s team needs one more victory just to reach that dreadful level.
Do you just have that little bit of data saved...hoping someone cares next time you post it?
LOL....that is the best you can come up with!
 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
Sure...why not?? I am here to be entertained...What am I going to wear instead? My Foley, O'Donnell or Clemens jersey?? As long as he does the franchise right, he helped this team after a big drop. Parcells, for example, came and went within a few years; but he put the francise in a position to be successful over the next decade. Will Favre do the same? Probably not...but I have enjoyed the "product" this season and all it cost us was a crap shoot pick in the draft.There are 32 teams in the NFL and only one can win it all each year. I would rather have one exciting year than five years of mediocrity...however this turns out, it has been exciting.

On the Penny note, I was one of the few backers of Penny, but realized his brand of football had worn out its welcome (whether right or wrong). I flat-out love the guy and as much as it pains me he is successful as a Dolphin, I am glad he rebounded. I think he caught lightning in a bottle and would be surprised if it went beyond this year, but I do wish him well.
Awesome post. It is too bad that some Packer fans have turned their backs on a QB that Green Bay will never see the likes of again!
You are so full of it.Thinking it was the right move and Favre has been playing poorly lately is not turning our back on him.

 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
Sure...why not?? I am here to be entertained...What am I going to wear instead? My Foley, O'Donnell or Clemens jersey?? As long as he does the franchise right, he helped this team after a big drop. Parcells, for example, came and went within a few years; but he put the francise in a position to be successful over the next decade. Will Favre do the same? Probably not...but I have enjoyed the "product" this season and all it cost us was a crap shoot pick in the draft.There are 32 teams in the NFL and only one can win it all each year. I would rather have one exciting year than five years of mediocrity...however this turns out, it has been exciting.

On the Penny note, I was one of the few backers of Penny, but realized his brand of football had worn out its welcome (whether right or wrong). I flat-out love the guy and as much as it pains me he is successful as a Dolphin, I am glad he rebounded. I think he caught lightning in a bottle and would be surprised if it went beyond this year, but I do wish him well.
Awesome post. It is too bad that some Packer fans have turned their backs on a QB that Green Bay will never see the likes of again!
You are so full of it.Thinking it was the right move and Favre has been playing poorly lately is not turning our back on him.
You are so full of it.I guess you missed all the posts by Packer fans that rip on Favre. It has nothing to do with him "playing poorly lately" because it goes back well before that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Anyone in sports is smart to end their career in NY..its the $$$$ town..its like a normal worker who tries to get the best highest salary for last three years to pump up their social security. Look at Manny R. who's going to join the Yankees..3 years at 24 mil a year nice ending and laughing all the way!

 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
Sure...why not?? I am here to be entertained...What am I going to wear instead? My Foley, O'Donnell or Clemens jersey?? As long as he does the franchise right, he helped this team after a big drop. Parcells, for example, came and went within a few years; but he put the francise in a position to be successful over the next decade. Will Favre do the same? Probably not...but I have enjoyed the "product" this season and all it cost us was a crap shoot pick in the draft.There are 32 teams in the NFL and only one can win it all each year. I would rather have one exciting year than five years of mediocrity...however this turns out, it has been exciting.

On the Penny note, I was one of the few backers of Penny, but realized his brand of football had worn out its welcome (whether right or wrong). I flat-out love the guy and as much as it pains me he is successful as a Dolphin, I am glad he rebounded. I think he caught lightning in a bottle and would be surprised if it went beyond this year, but I do wish him well.
Awesome post. It is too bad that some Packer fans have turned their backs on a QB that Green Bay will never see the likes of again!
You are so full of it.Thinking it was the right move and Favre has been playing poorly lately is not turning our back on him.
You are so full of it.I guess you missed all the posts by Packer fans that rip on Favre. It has nothing to do with him "playing poorly lately" because it goes back well before that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I missed it being from more than a very small amount of people that are just ripping him.
 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
Sure...why not?? I am here to be entertained...What am I going to wear instead? My Foley, O'Donnell or Clemens jersey?? As long as he does the franchise right, he helped this team after a big drop. Parcells, for example, came and went within a few years; but he put the francise in a position to be successful over the next decade. Will Favre do the same? Probably not...but I have enjoyed the "product" this season and all it cost us was a crap shoot pick in the draft.There are 32 teams in the NFL and only one can win it all each year. I would rather have one exciting year than five years of mediocrity...however this turns out, it has been exciting.

On the Penny note, I was one of the few backers of Penny, but realized his brand of football had worn out its welcome (whether right or wrong). I flat-out love the guy and as much as it pains me he is successful as a Dolphin, I am glad he rebounded. I think he caught lightning in a bottle and would be surprised if it went beyond this year, but I do wish him well.
Awesome post. It is too bad that some Packer fans have turned their backs on a QB that Green Bay will never see the likes of again!
You are so full of it.Thinking it was the right move and Favre has been playing poorly lately is not turning our back on him.
You are so full of it.I guess you missed all the posts by Packer fans that rip on Favre. It has nothing to do with him "playing poorly lately" because it goes back well before that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I missed it being from more than a very small amount of people that are just ripping him.
Of course you missed that with those blinding homer glasses you have on.
 
Nope...just because it has been so little that nobody is seeing it much.

Though, you take anyone saying anything bad about the guys play as just ripping on Favre or diminishing him...so I guess we should take your comment on that with a grain of salt huh?

 
so let's see.........

Packers lose: Rodgers fault

Jets lose: Defense, Coach, Waterboy, anybody fault but not FAVRE

:nerd: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
Sure...why not?? I am here to be entertained...What am I going to wear instead? My Foley, O'Donnell or Clemens jersey?? As long as he does the franchise right, he helped this team after a big drop. Parcells, for example, came and went within a few years; but he put the francise in a position to be successful over the next decade. Will Favre do the same? Probably not...but I have enjoyed the "product" this season and all it cost us was a crap shoot pick in the draft.There are 32 teams in the NFL and only one can win it all each year. I would rather have one exciting year than five years of mediocrity...however this turns out, it has been exciting.

On the Penny note, I was one of the few backers of Penny, but realized his brand of football had worn out its welcome (whether right or wrong). I flat-out love the guy and as much as it pains me he is successful as a Dolphin, I am glad he rebounded. I think he caught lightning in a bottle and would be surprised if it went beyond this year, but I do wish him well.
Awesome post. It is too bad that some Packer fans have turned their backs on a QB that Green Bay will never see the likes of again!
You are so full of it.Thinking it was the right move and Favre has been playing poorly lately is not turning our back on him.
You are so full of it.I guess you missed all the posts by Packer fans that rip on Favre. It has nothing to do with him "playing poorly lately" because it goes back well before that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I started posted ill of him as soon as he stabbed the organization in the back by talking to the Vikings.
 
so let's see.........Packers lose: Rodgers faultJets lose: Defense, Coach, Waterboy, anybody fault but not FAVRE :rolleyes: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
:headbang: Best post in the entire thread.
Not by Jets fans though.. Only by Favre lovers and haters...The funny dynamic in all of this is that I suspect most Jets fans don't have the passion for or against Favre that NFC fans have.... To us, he was the guy we saw on MNF, the guy Madden pumped up, the guy who had a long, really good career but, who often threw pics in bad spots... Not someone most Jets fans had a lot of passion for.... Personally I never loved Favre and I always said he was someone just out of the top 10 for all time QB's, and not the best of the best... We see these 30 page Battles between the fans passionate about Favre and it's kinda weired...To me, it's still very simple... GB needed to move on and Favre never comitted... Plus they have a good QB - DONE!Jets rolled the dice and can hardly be faulted.... DONE!I do remember when Marino was thinking about going to the Vikings at the end of his career - This whole thing might have played out in reverse with AFC east fans having strong opinions on Marino and Vikings fans just hoping for the best, wondering what all the hub bub is about.
 
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Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
Sure...why not?? I am here to be entertained...What am I going to wear instead? My Foley, O'Donnell or Clemens jersey?? As long as he does the franchise right, he helped this team after a big drop. Parcells, for example, came and went within a few years; but he put the francise in a position to be successful over the next decade. Will Favre do the same? Probably not...but I have enjoyed the "product" this season and all it cost us was a crap shoot pick in the draft.There are 32 teams in the NFL and only one can win it all each year. I would rather have one exciting year than five years of mediocrity...however this turns out, it has been exciting.

On the Penny note, I was one of the few backers of Penny, but realized his brand of football had worn out its welcome (whether right or wrong). I flat-out love the guy and as much as it pains me he is successful as a Dolphin, I am glad he rebounded. I think he caught lightning in a bottle and would be surprised if it went beyond this year, but I do wish him well.
Awesome post. It is too bad that some Packer fans have turned their backs on a QB that Green Bay will never see the likes of again!
You are so full of it.Thinking it was the right move and Favre has been playing poorly lately is not turning our back on him.
You are so full of it.I guess you missed all the posts by Packer fans that rip on Favre. It has nothing to do with him "playing poorly lately" because it goes back well before that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I started posted ill of him as soon as he stabbed the organization in the back by talking to the Vikings.
That would have never happened if Thompson wanted Favre back. Also, did you know that whole story about Favre using a team issued cell phone to call the Vikings was bogus?
 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
Sure...why not?? I am here to be entertained...What am I going to wear instead? My Foley, O'Donnell or Clemens jersey?? As long as he does the franchise right, he helped this team after a big drop. Parcells, for example, came and went within a few years; but he put the francise in a position to be successful over the next decade. Will Favre do the same? Probably not...but I have enjoyed the "product" this season and all it cost us was a crap shoot pick in the draft.There are 32 teams in the NFL and only one can win it all each year. I would rather have one exciting year than five years of mediocrity...however this turns out, it has been exciting.

On the Penny note, I was one of the few backers of Penny, but realized his brand of football had worn out its welcome (whether right or wrong). I flat-out love the guy and as much as it pains me he is successful as a Dolphin, I am glad he rebounded. I think he caught lightning in a bottle and would be surprised if it went beyond this year, but I do wish him well.
Awesome post. It is too bad that some Packer fans have turned their backs on a QB that Green Bay will never see the likes of again!
You are so full of it.Thinking it was the right move and Favre has been playing poorly lately is not turning our back on him.
You are so full of it.I guess you missed all the posts by Packer fans that rip on Favre. It has nothing to do with him "playing poorly lately" because it goes back well before that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I started posted ill of him as soon as he stabbed the organization in the back by talking to the Vikings.
That would have never happened if Thompson wanted Favre back. Also, did you know that whole story about Favre using a team issued cell phone to call the Vikings was bogus?
Yup...did you know there is absolutely no evidence of the Packers ever claiming it was a team issued phone.
 
Why did they file tampering charges then?

http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/20...rts/00favre.txt

MINNEAPOLIS — The Green Bay Packers apparently had proof that Brett Favre made phone calls to Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress when they filed tampering charges against the Vikings for “inappropriate dialogue” with the quarterback.

According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, a source said Favre continued to use a Packers-issued cell phone after his retirement. When the team checked the phone records, there were “repeated calls to coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.” Brett Favre

Favre’s odd decision to use a phone on which the Packers could review all calls had been speculated on last week after The Associated Press reported that Green Bay informed the NFL it felt “an investigation of the phone records would show more than ’normal contact’ between the Vikings and Favre, even before he formally asked for his release to play for another team.”

Bevell and Favre became friends when the former served on the Packers’ coaching staff from 2000 to 2005 — Bevell was Green Bay’s quarterbacks coach for the final three seasons—and have continued to stay in touch.

That made it difficult to believe the Packers could prove much by simply pointing to conversations between Bevell and Favre. If Favre’s phone records provide evidence of multiple calls to Childress, it’s a different story.

Favre announced his retirement in March, then decided he wanted to play in 2008. He asked for his release when the Packers told him Aaron Rodgers is their starter.

The Vikings are believed to be Favre’s top choice for a landing spot, in part because they run a version of the West Coast offense with which he is familiar. Childress has stated publicly that Tarvaris Jackson is his starting quarterback, but the opportunity to plug in a veteran like Favre could be tempting.

The Vikings, if found guilty, could face penalties that include loss of draft picks and/or fines.

The Packers have made it clear they have no intention of granting Favre his release. The NFL Network reported Tuesday that the Packers have talked to multiple teams about what they would be willing to offer in a trade and that calls have been made to teams in both conferences. It has been suggested the Packers wouldn’t trade Favre within the NFC, but that might not be the case.

The Vikings remained quiet on the tampering charge since news broke last week. The team issued a statement last week, saying the Vikings “are not commenting on this issue. These types of matters are handled by the league.”

A Vikings spokesman said Tuesday the club would have no comment about the Journal Sentinel report.

Vikings owner Zygi Wilf told the Star Tribune last week that he wouldn’t comment on the Packers’ accusation but added, “Let’s put it this way, I look forward to the opening game in Green Bay.” The Vikings will face the Packers in the season opener Sept. 8 in Green Bay.

 
Ummm...tampering does not have to be with any team issued cell phone.

They filed the charges because they had been informed that the offensive coordinator and head coach had been talking with Favre. Which all parties fully admit took place. There was not enough evidence to prove any tampering occurred. But does anyone think they were just talking favorite colors and good places to eat in Minneapolis?

What you left out of your bold part was "a source said that Favre".

It does not say a Packer team source...it says a source.

Investigations into the phone records...you know, it does not say any packer issued phone records...it says the phone records...like the Vikings phone records that they would keep too. Things the NFL would look at.

You are again spinning actual words...to what you want them to mean.

It was interesting that someone leaked the story...but nobody knows who the source is...and it was not even listed as a source inside the team (as things are often listed).

 
Favre is over the hill (and through the woods).

Mangini is one of the worst coaches in the league.

Combine those two things, and you get what we are seeing right now. The Jets would be two games back in the division right now, if not for a couple of big breaks late in their games against Buffao and NE.

 
Ummm...tampering does not have to be with any team issued cell phone.They filed the charges because they had been informed that the offensive coordinator and head coach had been talking with Favre. Which all parties fully admit took place. There was not enough evidence to prove any tampering occurred. But does anyone think they were just talking favorite colors and good places to eat in Minneapolis?What you left out of your bold part was "a source said that Favre".It does not say a Packer team source...it says a source.Investigations into the phone records...you know, it does not say any packer issued phone records...it says the phone records...like the Vikings phone records that they would keep too. Things the NFL would look at.You are again spinning actual words...to what you want them to mean.It was interesting that someone leaked the story...but nobody knows who the source is...and it was not even listed as a source inside the team (as things are often listed).
You just keep on thinking that someone inside the Packers organization didn't have anything to do with the team issued cell phone story. :cry:
 
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Ummm...tampering does not have to be with any team issued cell phone.They filed the charges because they had been informed that the offensive coordinator and head coach had been talking with Favre. Which all parties fully admit took place. There was not enough evidence to prove any tampering occurred. But does anyone think they were just talking favorite colors and good places to eat in Minneapolis?What you left out of your bold part was "a source said that Favre".It does not say a Packer team source...it says a source.Investigations into the phone records...you know, it does not say any packer issued phone records...it says the phone records...like the Vikings phone records that they would keep too. Things the NFL would look at.You are again spinning actual words...to what you want them to mean.It was interesting that someone leaked the story...but nobody knows who the source is...and it was not even listed as a source inside the team (as things are often listed).
You just keep on thinking that someone inside the Packers organization didn't have anything to do with the team issued cell phone story. :cry:
I will keep thinking that there is no evidence to suggest it.Do you not find it odd that it did not say "sources inside the Packers"? A line they use quite often when quoting team sources?
 
3 picks.... including the game losing interception as the Jets were driving to tie the game
Yeah but remember that's the coach's fault and NY had a way better record than GB therefore GB made a bad move and Favre is better than Rogers this year and blah blah blah blah :thumbup: lmao at the idiocy peppered throughout this thread.
 
Mangina is horrible. This team weekly drives down the field on their 1st series only to lay an egg the rest of the game. That's bad coaching, not QB play.
While he may be a poor coach.The QB play has not been great the past few weeks either.As for the decision.I agree with Reaper...while the net gain might not be there other than the excitement over much of the season.It was time to move on.Just because Pennington is doing well in Miami, does not mean he would have still fared well in NY...or even had the job anyway (he lost it last year remember).In the end, those who keep questioning the Packers decision may rethink their stance (though, I doubt some of them will).It was nice to roll the dice...if they don't make the playoffs...they give up a 3rd rounder.
I don't understand why anyone questioned the Jets or the Packers....GB needed to move on once Favre didn't commit.. The Jets had little to lose.I don't get those 20 page threads on Favre at all or why people get roped into them... It's pretty simple, GB has a good QB and moved on.
:goodposting: The move made sense for both teams. For some people, they just can't accept that, especially some of my fellow Packer fans.
 
The move made sense for both teams.
It made sense for the Packers. For the Jets, I'm not so sure. They're going to be sitting at home this year, while the guy who was all set to be their opening-day starter is busy preparing for a home playoff game.
 
The move made sense for both teams.
It made sense for the Packers. For the Jets, I'm not so sure. They're going to be sitting at home this year, while the guy who was all set to be their opening-day starter is busy preparing for a home playoff game.
Do you think Pennington would have led the Jets to the playoffs this year? Pennington has the intelligence and accuracy to be a solid NFL QB, it's his arm that gave him problems in NY. I wonder what has been so different in Miami.
 
The move made sense for both teams.
It made sense for the Packers. For the Jets, I'm not so sure. They're going to be sitting at home this year, while the guy who was all set to be their opening-day starter is busy preparing for a home playoff game.
Do you think Pennington would have led the Jets to the playoffs this year?
He should. The Jets have more supporting talent than the Dolphins do, IMO. I will freely grant that the Jets coaching staff is atrocious, and as a Bills fan I can recognize bad coaching when I see it, so I should know. :unsure:Edit: Seriously, though, Pennington does a good job taking care of the football. You have to admit that the Jets paid dearly for Favre's inability to do the same.
 
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The move made sense for both teams.
It made sense for the Packers. For the Jets, I'm not so sure. They're going to be sitting at home this year, while the guy who was all set to be their opening-day starter is busy preparing for a home playoff game.
Do you think Pennington would have led the Jets to the playoffs this year? Pennington has the intelligence and accuracy to be a solid NFL QB, it's his arm that gave him problems in NY. I wonder what has been so different in Miami.
I think Penni would have had a decent season in NY this year with that oline and power run game. Which the Jets decided not to use most of the latter half of the season, relying on Favre's arm for even third and 1 yard situation.Favre certainly deserves his share of the blame for this collapse (including his lame speech prior to the game - good lord man, try to sound excited) but the playcalling on both sides of the ball is the difference.The coaching staff in miami was fantastic this year, inventive and courageous while NY's was often very predictable and timid. I've never seen a team go into a shell like NYJ has this year.Penni has had a fantastic year and I think the Jets would have run the offense much differently with Penni than they did with Favre so who knows.Amazing year for the Phins and Pennington.
 
The move made sense for both teams.
It made sense for the Packers. For the Jets, I'm not so sure. They're going to be sitting at home this year, while the guy who was all set to be their opening-day starter is busy preparing for a home playoff game.
Do you think Pennington would have led the Jets to the playoffs this year?
He should. The Jets have more supporting talent than the Dolphins do, IMO. I will freely grant that the Jets coaching staff is atrocious, and as a Bills fan I can recognize bad coaching when I see it, so I should know. :unsure:Edit: Seriously, though, Penningtong does a good job taking care of the football. You have to admit that the Jets paid dearly for Favre's inability to do the same.
Believe me, as a Packer fan, I know Favre's gunslinging, especially in recent season, can hurt. And I really like Pennington as a game manager. Not going to make many mistakes, smart player, and accurate. Perfect fit for the Dolphins.
 
Farve looked like an old QB today..he aged every quarter.

It hurt to watch him today. Like Ali when he was past his prime.

 
Jets must be one of the dumbest teams in the NFL. Anyone can seee that they should be pounding Jones and Leon most of the game.
Thanks, got my new team name for next year.
Wow...ood call. As a Jets fan and all things "graphic", I may may that one of my team names..lol.On the subject of the trade, you HAVE to look beyond true results. This includes merchandising (I am about to buy a NY Bretts T-shirt on E-bay), how he helped turn the team around and his flat-out presence for the franchise. While I believe Curtis Martin is the best Jet ever, Favre brings a star-power to a franchise without a face for the past 20+ years (Gastineau is the last Jet household name). Draft picks mean squat...in the last 12 years the Jets have burned first-rounders on Dorian Boose, Kyle Brady and Anthony Becht...yeah, i could waste a 2nd rounder on what Favre has brouht to the franchise, even if it is for just one year.
So if the Favre led Jets miss the playoffs and he retires after this year you're going to wear that jersey proudly?
Sure...why not?? I am here to be entertained...What am I going to wear instead? My Foley, O'Donnell or Clemens jersey?? As long as he does the franchise right, he helped this team after a big drop. Parcells, for example, came and went within a few years; but he put the francise in a position to be successful over the next decade. Will Favre do the same? Probably not...but I have enjoyed the "product" this season and all it cost us was a crap shoot pick in the draft.There are 32 teams in the NFL and only one can win it all each year. I would rather have one exciting year than five years of mediocrity...however this turns out, it has been exciting.

On the Penny note, I was one of the few backers of Penny, but realized his brand of football had worn out its welcome (whether right or wrong). I flat-out love the guy and as much as it pains me he is successful as a Dolphin, I am glad he rebounded. I think he caught lightning in a bottle and would be surprised if it went beyond this year, but I do wish him well.
Awesome post. It is too bad that some Packer fans have turned their backs on a QB that Green Bay will never see the likes of again!
You are so full of it.Thinking it was the right move and Favre has been playing poorly lately is not turning our back on him.
You are so full of it.I guess you missed all the posts by Packer fans that rip on Favre. It has nothing to do with him "playing poorly lately" because it goes back well before that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I started posted ill of him as soon as he stabbed the organization in the back by talking to the Vikings.
That would have never happened if Thompson wanted Favre back. Also, did you know that whole story about Favre using a team issued cell phone to call the Vikings was bogus?
I know about that being bogus. Doesn't matter. He quit on the team. Plain and simple. Then he tried to play for their biggest rival. It hurt his legacy a little bit. Nobody will care in 5 years.
 

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