How's the Packer decision to go with Rodgers looking now? (2 Viewers)

[sho nuff]

As a Cowboys fan, I guess you (zDragon) are familiar with what it feels like to see your biggest rival pimp slap you on their way to a championship.

I'd trade a year of my rival winning (not that I'd like it) if it could help us dominate them for the next 5-10.

I would not trade watching Brett Favre hoist the Lombardi trophy wearing purple and gold for a possible 1st round pick that could fizzle out.Because them winning it all, means the team ended up with the last pick in the 1st round.Its not like they are getting a top 10 pick with it.

Once again your afraid of the old man. If it's that big a worry for the Pack then why trade him at all? After all the team was 13-3 last year and one game away right? He threw the game losing pick right? So from what i"ve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy in Min was very slim.Now you have him as a Jet possibly taking a terrible team into the play-offs and super bowl win hoisting the trophy. The whole time almost everyone is looking on laughing and smiling as the Pack losses mount and the Jets win go up. I can't imagine what everyone will think if the Lions actually pull off an upset and Brett and the Jets somehow win the division.

Afraid? No.I know what the Vikings lack and he is definitely it. They have the D and the run game. They are basically a decent QB away from a SB caliber team (even with Childress).I said it before the trade and say it now...trading him there would be completely foolish for the GM of the Packers. From what youve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy was very slim? Not really.Game losing pick? No, plenty of things went into that loss...as I have said over and over and over again. He might make the playoffs with the Jets...but IMO, have nearly a 0 chance at winning it all this year with them.

 

[zDragon]

As a Cowboys fan, I guess you (zDragon) are familiar with what it feels like to see your biggest rival pimp slap you on their way to a championship.

I'd trade a year of my rival winning (not that I'd like it) if it could help us dominate them for the next 5-10.

I would not trade watching Brett Favre hoist the Lombardi trophy wearing purple and gold for a possible 1st round pick that could fizzle out.Because them winning it all, means the team ended up with the last pick in the 1st round.

Its not like they are getting a top 10 pick with it.

Once again your afraid of the old man. If it's that big a worry for the Pack then why trade him at all? After all the team was 13-3 last year and one game away right? He threw the game losing pick right? So from what i"ve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy in Min was very slim.Now you have him as a Jet possibly taking a terrible team into the play-offs and super bowl win hoisting the trophy.

The whole time almost everyone is looking on laughing and smiling as the Pack losses mount and the Jets win go up. I can't imagine what everyone will think if the Lions actually pull off an upset and Brett and the Jets somehow win the division.

Afraid? No.I know what the Vikings lack and he is definitely it. They have the D and the run game. They are basically a decent QB away from a SB caliber team (even with Childress).

I said it before the trade and say it now...trading him there would be completely foolish for the GM of the Packers. From what youve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy was very slim? Not really.

Game losing pick? No, plenty of things went into that loss...as I have said over and over and over again.

He might make the playoffs with the Jets...but IMO, have nearly a 0 chance at winning it all this year with them.

But has already made the organization look foolish.

 

[sho nuff]

Already made the organization look foolish?

Ok...if you say so.

 

[ScottyFargo]

As a Cowboys fan, I guess you (zDragon) are familiar with what it feels like to see your biggest rival pimp slap you on their way to a championship.

I'd trade a year of my rival winning (not that I'd like it) if it could help us dominate them for the next 5-10.

I would not trade watching Brett Favre hoist the Lombardi trophy wearing purple and gold for a possible 1st round pick that could fizzle out.Because them winning it all, means the team ended up with the last pick in the 1st round.

Its not like they are getting a top 10 pick with it.

Once again your afraid of the old man. If it's that big a worry for the Pack then why trade him at all? After all the team was 13-3 last year and one game away right? He threw the game losing pick right? So from what i"ve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy in Min was very slim.Now you have him as a Jet possibly taking a terrible team into the play-offs and super bowl win hoisting the trophy.

The whole time almost everyone is looking on laughing and smiling as the Pack losses mount and the Jets win go up. I can't imagine what everyone will think if the Lions actually pull off an upset and Brett and the Jets somehow win the division.

Afraid? No.I know what the Vikings lack and he is definitely it. They have the D and the run game. They are basically a decent QB away from a SB caliber team (even with Childress).

I said it before the trade and say it now...trading him there would be completely foolish for the GM of the Packers. From what youve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy was very slim? Not really.

Game losing pick? No, plenty of things went into that loss...as I have said over and over and over again.

He might make the playoffs with the Jets...but IMO, have nearly a 0 chance at winning it all this year with them.

But has already made the organization look foolish.

Again, it's silly to assume that any team in the Playoffs coudln't go all the way. The Jets already beat the titans this year, and lost to a lot of opponents that people didn't expect them to. Once a team is in the playoffs, anything can happen.

 

[sho nuff]

As a Cowboys fan, I guess you (zDragon) are familiar with what it feels like to see your biggest rival pimp slap you on their way to a championship.

I'd trade a year of my rival winning (not that I'd like it) if it could help us dominate them for the next 5-10.

I would not trade watching Brett Favre hoist the Lombardi trophy wearing purple and gold for a possible 1st round pick that could fizzle out.Because them winning it all, means the team ended up with the last pick in the 1st round.

Its not like they are getting a top 10 pick with it.

Once again your afraid of the old man. If it's that big a worry for the Pack then why trade him at all? After all the team was 13-3 last year and one game away right? He threw the game losing pick right? So from what i"ve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy in Min was very slim.Now you have him as a Jet possibly taking a terrible team into the play-offs and super bowl win hoisting the trophy.

The whole time almost everyone is looking on laughing and smiling as the Pack losses mount and the Jets win go up. I can't imagine what everyone will think if the Lions actually pull off an upset and Brett and the Jets somehow win the division.

Afraid? No.I know what the Vikings lack and he is definitely it. They have the D and the run game. They are basically a decent QB away from a SB caliber team (even with Childress).

I said it before the trade and say it now...trading him there would be completely foolish for the GM of the Packers. From what youve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy was very slim? Not really.

Game losing pick? No, plenty of things went into that loss...as I have said over and over and over again.

He might make the playoffs with the Jets...but IMO, have nearly a 0 chance at winning it all this year with them.

But has already made the organization look foolish.

Again, it's silly to assume that any team in the Playoffs coudln't go all the way. The Jets already beat the titans this year, and lost to a lot of opponents that people didn't expect them to. Once a team is in the playoffs, anything can happen.

Which is why I said a nearly 0 chance.Do championship teams lose to two of the worst teams in the league in their championship year?

I don't think they have the offense or the defense to go into TN and beat them again...or go into Pitt and beat them.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Nah, I'm sure the Vikings can't go all the way.

 

[zDragon]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

Everyone I watch the games with laughs when the scroll bar comes by and the Jets are up and the Pack are down. The image of going from 13-3 to 5-9 is the biggest factor for the casual fan. Heck most of them think the Lions beat the Pack. I think the Packers blow them out but that's my opinion.Only 7 teams have a worse record right now than the packers. Last year 1 team had a better record and they were trying to make history.The Jets last year only had 2 teams with a worse record than them. This year only 5 teams have a better record than them.So the Packers trading away the QB (future HOF) that got them to within one of the Super Bowl and plummet while the terrible team they trade him to are looking at the play-offs makes people laugh at the entire Packer organization.I think it was the right thing to do but a lot of people are watching and enjoying it.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

There are many, many people out there laughing at Packers.

 

[sho nuff]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

There are many, many people out there laughing at Packers.

And there are many many people who agree it was the right decision seeing how this team is playing.

 

[FavreCo]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

There are many, many people out there laughing at Packers.

Those people would be just plain stupid. The team needs to repair the horrid defense. Do that and they are in contention. I'm retiring after this year so this way Rodgers did get 1 full year under his belt. Should improve easily next year with a 3rd place schedule to boot.

 

[sho nuff]

That 3rd place schedule would get them Philly and Atlanta if the standings remains the same today.

Not quite a cake draw there.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

This is just unhealthy.

 

[zDragon]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

There are many, many people out there laughing at Packers.

Those people would be just plain stupid. The team needs to repair the horrid defense. Do that and they are in contention. I'm retiring after this year so this way Rodgers did get 1 full year under his belt. Should improve easily next year with a 3rd place schedule to boot.

Easy to call someone stupid because they don't agree with you. Just makes you look foolish to start out that way.Define Horrid in your mind. To me horrid describes the Lions or the bottom 10% of the leauge. So your probably a little off on the description of the defense. Especially since they have two pro-bowlers to the offenses 0.More than likely you are but that does not make the Pack look any less foolish when they are losing and the Jets are winning.Sure easier schedule could mean better record or it might be worse. That's to be determined next year.

 

[zDragon]

That 3rd place schedule would get them Philly and Atlanta if the standings remains the same today.Not quite a cake draw there.

True. Plus some of the easier teams will be better. So no telling.

 

[sho nuff]

That 3rd place schedule would get them Philly and Atlanta if the standings remains the same today.Not quite a cake draw there.

True. Plus some of the easier teams will be better. So no telling.

Yup...they get the NFC West and AFC North next year for the others.The NFC West should be easy...but you never know.

 

[Stinger Ray]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

There are many, many people out there laughing at Packers.

Those people would be just plain stupid. The team needs to repair the horrid defense. Do that and they are in contention. I'm retiring after this year so this way Rodgers did get 1 full year under his belt. Should improve easily next year with a 3rd place schedule to boot.

They do have reason to laugh considering....-- One more loss means this Packers team will set the 90-year team record for biggest drop-off in victories from one season to the next, a sobering record of ineffectiveness.-- Two more losses would mean a 1-8 finish, the worst over the final nine games of a season in 50 years and tied for the worst in the history of the team. Even during the lean years, coach Dan Devine never finished worse than 2-5-2. Bart Starr, Forrest Gregg and Lindy Infante, meanwhile, never finished worse than 2-7 as head coaches. This year’s team needs one more victory just to reach that dreadful level.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

There are many, many people out there laughing at Packers.

Those people would be just plain stupid. The team needs to repair the horrid defense. Do that and they are in contention. I'm retiring after this year so this way Rodgers did get 1 full year under his belt. Should improve easily next year with a 3rd place schedule to boot.

They do have reason to laugh considering....-- One more loss means this Packers team will set the 90-year team record for biggest drop-off in victories from one season to the next, a sobering record of ineffectiveness.-- Two more losses would mean a 1-8 finish, the worst over the final nine games of a season in 50 years and tied for the worst in the history of the team. Even during the lean years, coach Dan Devine never finished worse than 2-5-2. Bart Starr, Forrest Gregg and Lindy Infante, meanwhile, never finished worse than 2-7 as head coaches. This year’s team needs one more victory just to reach that dreadful level.

Do you have a pull string coming out of your back?

 

[Phurfur]

You people are insane! Arguing about something that will not be resolved for years, I don't get it. You do know that all of our opinions are meaningless don't you?

 

[zDragon]

You people are insane! Arguing about something that will not be resolved for years, I don't get it. You do know that all of our opinions are meaningless don't you?

yep.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Some are more meaningless than others.

 

[Irish]

Favre is a glorified has-been who only made the Pro Bowl on career accomplishments and not based on his play this year. Same way Faneca got voted to the Pro Bowl. This year Rodgers>>>>>>>>>>>>>Favre. Last years GB defense>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This years GB defense. The defense is to blame for the Packers poor record not Rodgers.

awesome empirical evidence here.

Favre's last 10 games he has thrown for 9 Tds and 13 Ints. He has not thrown for over 300 yds in a game this season. In 6 games he has failed to even throw for 200 yards. These are not Pro Bowl numbers especially when Rivers and Pennington play in the same conference. Favre is spent and has set the Jets back a few years.

 

[Irish]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

Everyone I watch the games with laughs when the scroll bar comes by and the Jets are up and the Pack are down. The image of going from 13-3 to 5-9 is the biggest factor for the casual fan. Heck most of them think the Lions beat the Pack. I think the Packers blow them out but that's my opinion.Only 7 teams have a worse record right now than the packers. Last year 1 team had a better record and they were trying to make history.The Jets last year only had 2 teams with a worse record than them. This year only 5 teams have a better record than them.So the Packers trading away the QB (future HOF) that got them to within one of the Super Bowl and plummet while the terrible team they trade him to are looking at the play-offs makes people laugh at the entire Packer organization.I think it was the right thing to do but a lot of people are watching and enjoying it.

Were you asleep when the Jets spent a boatload of money on free agents this offseason? Favre has little to do with the Jets record or the Packers record this season.

 

[DropKick]

I think I'll chime in after more than 2,000 posts.

Having no dog in this fight, it is clear to me the Packers made the right decision. There comes a point where you just need to move on. Although Favre brings some intangibles to the Jets, he has not been "special" and actually very ordinary as of late. Statistically, Rodgers is having the better season. Looking forward, as the franchise must do, Rodgers is clearly the better option and the "transition" season is a necessity.

IMHO... I think Pennington could have the Jets where they are now... in a season where NE has been hit hard by injury.

 

[zDragon]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

Everyone I watch the games with laughs when the scroll bar comes by and the Jets are up and the Pack are down. The image of going from 13-3 to 5-9 is the biggest factor for the casual fan. Heck most of them think the Lions beat the Pack. I think the Packers blow them out but that's my opinion.Only 7 teams have a worse record right now than the packers. Last year 1 team had a better record and they were trying to make history.The Jets last year only had 2 teams with a worse record than them. This year only 5 teams have a better record than them.So the Packers trading away the QB (future HOF) that got them to within one of the Super Bowl and plummet while the terrible team they trade him to are looking at the play-offs makes people laugh at the entire Packer organization.I think it was the right thing to do but a lot of people are watching and enjoying it.

Were you asleep when the Jets spent a boatload of money on free agents this offseason? Favre has little to do with the Jets record or the Packers record this season.

Apparently enough people disagreed with you to get him in the pro-bowl.

 

[sho nuff]

What a great 4th quarter comeback by Manning.

Never mind that the Jags had the ball with about 4 minutes left in a tie game and the Colts defense scored a TD then held off the final drive by the Jags....

You see...that is how you close out a game.

Not by allowing an 80 yard drive (one of 5 I think the Jags have had all year).

 

[sho nuff]

I think I'll chime in after more than 2,000 posts.Having no dog in this fight, it is clear to me the Packers made the right decision. There comes a point where you just need to move on. Although Favre brings some intangibles to the Jets, he has not been "special" and actually very ordinary as of late. Statistically, Rodgers is having the better season. Looking forward, as the franchise must do, Rodgers is clearly the better option and the "transition" season is a necessity.IMHO... I think Pennington could have the Jets where they are now... in a season where NE has been hit hard by injury.

You TT loving Favre hater.

 

[hauser42]

As a Cowboys fan, I guess you (zDragon) are familiar with what it feels like to see your biggest rival pimp slap you on their way to a championship.

I'd trade a year of my rival winning (not that I'd like it) if it could help us dominate them for the next 5-10.

I would not trade watching Brett Favre hoist the Lombardi trophy wearing purple and gold for a possible 1st round pick that could fizzle out.Because them winning it all, means the team ended up with the last pick in the 1st round.

Its not like they are getting a top 10 pick with it.

Once again your afraid of the old man. If it's that big a worry for the Pack then why trade him at all? After all the team was 13-3 last year and one game away right? He threw the game losing pick right? So from what i"ve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy in Min was very slim.Now you have him as a Jet possibly taking a terrible team into the play-offs and super bowl win hoisting the trophy.

The whole time almost everyone is looking on laughing and smiling as the Pack losses mount and the Jets win go up. I can't imagine what everyone will think if the Lions actually pull off an upset and Brett and the Jets somehow win the division.

Afraid? No.I know what the Vikings lack and he is definitely it. They have the D and the run game. They are basically a decent QB away from a SB caliber team (even with Childress).

I said it before the trade and say it now...trading him there would be completely foolish for the GM of the Packers. From what youve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy was very slim? Not really.

Game losing pick? No, plenty of things went into that loss...as I have said over and over and over again.

He might make the playoffs with the Jets...but IMO, have nearly a 0 chance at winning it all this year with them.

But has already made the organization look foolish.

Please explain how he made this happen??Was it that he has thrown the most picks in the season??

No wait maybe it is that he has not decided to come back next year although he has the team on the brink of a division title and a solid team around him. Wait he had that last year and QUIT on that team!!

I know so many voters decided to make him a Pro Bowl QB wich he will not play in for again like he has in the past.

Facts:

Favre was part of a new group of players that helped turn the Jets around this year.

Jets played a schedule based on a 4-12 record last year.

Jets have not locked any game up past week 17 in the NFL.

Packers have lost some close games with a new QB.

Packers COULD turn the corner the like the JETS with a easier schedule next year.

Rodger has more yards, TDS, and less picks than Brett this year.

 

[tonydead]

Is this the same team that is 5-9 and lost 4 in a row? Why are we even talking about them? ???sho-nuff

 

[zDragon]

What a great 4th quarter comeback by Manning.Never mind that the Jags had the ball with about 4 minutes left in a tie game and the Colts defense scored a TD then held off the final drive by the Jags....You see...that is how you close out a game.Not by allowing an 80 yard drive (one of 5 I think the Jags have had all year).

They barely beat a 5-9 team that is averaging 19.4 pts a game and gave up 24 points (isn't the packs average). The defense allowed the Jags to drive something like 80 yards and they stalled on the 7 when time ran out. Luckily the offense did it's job and the Jags had to score 7 to tie otherwise you wouldn't be posting this.Oh yeah they gave up over 300 yards passing and 100 rushing.Seems like the offense did it's job versus the defense to me. Nice try though.

 

[sho nuff]

What a great 4th quarter comeback by Manning.Never mind that the Jags had the ball with about 4 minutes left in a tie game and the Colts defense scored a TD then held off the final drive by the Jags....You see...that is how you close out a game.Not by allowing an 80 yard drive (one of 5 I think the Jags have had all year).

They barely beat a 5-9 team that is averaging 19.4 pts a game and gave up 24 points (isn't the packs average). The defense allowed the Jags to drive something like 80 yards and they stalled on the 7 when time ran out. Luckily the offense did it's job and the Jags had to score 7 to tie otherwise you wouldn't be posting this.Oh yeah they gave up over 300 yards passing and 100 rushing.Seems like the offense did it's job versus the defense to me. Nice try though.

Would you rather have them drive 80 yards and stall on the 7 (after stopping them one other time in the under 4 minute time perdiod...or have them go 80 for the tying (or in last week's case winning) TD? The offense did its job to get the team tied (GB's had a lead).The defense closed out the game. Unlike GBs.Both sides did their job.Last week for the Packers, neither side did.

 

[zDragon]

As a Cowboys fan, I guess you (zDragon) are familiar with what it feels like to see your biggest rival pimp slap you on their way to a championship.

I'd trade a year of my rival winning (not that I'd like it) if it could help us dominate them for the next 5-10.

I would not trade watching Brett Favre hoist the Lombardi trophy wearing purple and gold for a possible 1st round pick that could fizzle out.Because them winning it all, means the team ended up with the last pick in the 1st round.

Its not like they are getting a top 10 pick with it.

Once again your afraid of the old man. If it's that big a worry for the Pack then why trade him at all? After all the team was 13-3 last year and one game away right? He threw the game losing pick right? So from what i"ve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy in Min was very slim.Now you have him as a Jet possibly taking a terrible team into the play-offs and super bowl win hoisting the trophy.

The whole time almost everyone is looking on laughing and smiling as the Pack losses mount and the Jets win go up. I can't imagine what everyone will think if the Lions actually pull off an upset and Brett and the Jets somehow win the division.

Afraid? No.I know what the Vikings lack and he is definitely it. They have the D and the run game. They are basically a decent QB away from a SB caliber team (even with Childress).

I said it before the trade and say it now...trading him there would be completely foolish for the GM of the Packers. From what youve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy was very slim? Not really.

Game losing pick? No, plenty of things went into that loss...as I have said over and over and over again.

He might make the playoffs with the Jets...but IMO, have nearly a 0 chance at winning it all this year with them.

But has already made the organization look foolish.

Please explain how he made this happen??Was it that he has thrown the most picks in the season??

No wait maybe it is that he has not decided to come back next year although he has the team on the brink of a division title and a solid team around him. Wait he had that last year and QUIT on that team!!

I know so many voters decided to make him a Pro Bowl QB wich he will not play in for again like he has in the past.

Facts:

Favre was part of a new group of players that helped turn the Jets around this year.

Jets played a schedule based on a 4-12 record last year.

Jets have not locked any game up past week 17 in the NFL.

Packers have lost some close games with a new QB.

Packers COULD turn the corner the like the JETS with a easier schedule next year.

Rodger has more yards, TDS, and less picks than Brett this year.

Facts:Rodgers has been in the system for 3 years and has helped turn the packers around this year.

What the actual SOS data for this year? Your point is irrelevant since teams change take for example the Jets.

Who said they have. Everything I've posted says possible play-off team.

Jets have lost some close games with a new QB that hasn't been in the system for three years. They have also won more games.

Then again they may not and I don't recall seeing a ticker on ESPN predicting future wins next year.

400 (26 more yards per game) ,2 (.14 more per game), and 5 (.35 more per game) funny how you didn't post the actual numbers.

 

[zDragon]

As a Cowboys fan, I guess you (zDragon) are familiar with what it feels like to see your biggest rival pimp slap you on their way to a championship.

I'd trade a year of my rival winning (not that I'd like it) if it could help us dominate them for the next 5-10.

I would not trade watching Brett Favre hoist the Lombardi trophy wearing purple and gold for a possible 1st round pick that could fizzle out.Because them winning it all, means the team ended up with the last pick in the 1st round.

Its not like they are getting a top 10 pick with it.

Once again your afraid of the old man. If it's that big a worry for the Pack then why trade him at all? After all the team was 13-3 last year and one game away right? He threw the game losing pick right? So from what i"ve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy in Min was very slim.Now you have him as a Jet possibly taking a terrible team into the play-offs and super bowl win hoisting the trophy.

The whole time almost everyone is looking on laughing and smiling as the Pack losses mount and the Jets win go up. I can't imagine what everyone will think if the Lions actually pull off an upset and Brett and the Jets somehow win the division.

Afraid? No.I know what the Vikings lack and he is definitely it. They have the D and the run game. They are basically a decent QB away from a SB caliber team (even with Childress).

I said it before the trade and say it now...trading him there would be completely foolish for the GM of the Packers. From what youve seen posted the chances of him hoisting the trophy was very slim? Not really.

Game losing pick? No, plenty of things went into that loss...as I have said over and over and over again.

He might make the playoffs with the Jets...but IMO, have nearly a 0 chance at winning it all this year with them.

But has already made the organization look foolish.

Please explain how he made this happen??Was it that he has thrown the most picks in the season??

No wait maybe it is that he has not decided to come back next year although he has the team on the brink of a division title and a solid team around him. Wait he had that last year and QUIT on that team!!

I know so many voters decided to make him a Pro Bowl QB wich he will not play in for again like he has in the past.

Facts:

Favre was part of a new group of players that helped turn the Jets around this year.

Jets played a schedule based on a 4-12 record last year.

Jets have not locked any game up past week 17 in the NFL.

Packers have lost some close games with a new QB.

Packers COULD turn the corner the like the JETS with a easier schedule next year.

Rodger has more yards, TDS, and less picks than Brett this year.

So since he's B. Favre he can't change his mind? Do you ever change your mind? He retired and realized he did the wrong thing. Seems to me you used the word QUIT to make it seem worse than it was. He retired.

You have no clue if he'll play or not and yes voters did vote him in and i'm sure they had good reason to do so or at least as good a reason as anyone on this board would one way or another.

 

[Irish]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

Everyone I watch the games with laughs when the scroll bar comes by and the Jets are up and the Pack are down. The image of going from 13-3 to 5-9 is the biggest factor for the casual fan. Heck most of them think the Lions beat the Pack. I think the Packers blow them out but that's my opinion.Only 7 teams have a worse record right now than the packers. Last year 1 team had a better record and they were trying to make history.The Jets last year only had 2 teams with a worse record than them. This year only 5 teams have a better record than them.So the Packers trading away the QB (future HOF) that got them to within one of the Super Bowl and plummet while the terrible team they trade him to are looking at the play-offs makes people laugh at the entire Packer organization.I think it was the right thing to do but a lot of people are watching and enjoying it.

Were you asleep when the Jets spent a boatload of money on free agents this offseason? Favre has little to do with the Jets record or the Packers record this season.

Apparently enough people disagreed with you to get him in the pro-bowl.

I'm right and they are wrong. I don't care how many people voted Favre into the Pro Bowl. He did not deserve it this year.

 

[Warhogs]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.

I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

I agree with the first part of your post. And I certainly love what I see from Rodgers for long term. I still very much disagree that it was the right move for the franchise. We could have had the best of both worlds. Rodgers was still under contract in 2009. We could have had Favre for one more year. If the Packers would have regressed I think Favre would have lost the itch to play and could have gone out with a bit of a Kareem farewell tour. If the Packers wouldnt have regressed well they would be doing awesome and then why even think about Rodgers?

 

[sho nuff]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

I agree with the first part of your post. And I certainly love what I see from Rodgers for long term. I still very much disagree that it was the right move for the franchise. We could have had the best of both worlds. Rodgers was still under contract in 2009. We could have had Favre for one more year. If the Packers would have regressed I think Favre would have lost the itch to play and could have gone out with a bit of a Kareem farewell tour. If the Packers wouldnt have regressed well they would be doing awesome and then why even think about Rodgers?

I can see what you are saying...but don't disagree that its the best of both worlds.If they had regressed under Favre and he lost his itch and retired for good this time...how is that the best of both worlds?They would have spent another year not knowing what Rodgers could do, have Rodgers with just one year left...went another year without him getting real action or starter like reps. Pretty much just a total waste of the year.While this year was a waste in many aspects, having a better idea of Rodgers ability and giving him that year of experience is a huge positive IMO.

 

[zDragon]

Already made the organization look foolish?Ok...if you say so.

Everyone I watch the games with laughs when the scroll bar comes by and the Jets are up and the Pack are down. The image of going from 13-3 to 5-9 is the biggest factor for the casual fan. Heck most of them think the Lions beat the Pack. I think the Packers blow them out but that's my opinion.Only 7 teams have a worse record right now than the packers. Last year 1 team had a better record and they were trying to make history.The Jets last year only had 2 teams with a worse record than them. This year only 5 teams have a better record than them.So the Packers trading away the QB (future HOF) that got them to within one of the Super Bowl and plummet while the terrible team they trade him to are looking at the play-offs makes people laugh at the entire Packer organization.I think it was the right thing to do but a lot of people are watching and enjoying it.

Were you asleep when the Jets spent a boatload of money on free agents this offseason? Favre has little to do with the Jets record or the Packers record this season.

Apparently enough people disagreed with you to get him in the pro-bowl.

I'm right and they are wrong. I don't care how many people voted Favre into the Pro Bowl. He did not deserve it this year.

So if he was voted in doesn't that mean the majority believe he does?

 

[zDragon]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

The packers did make the right decision.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

I agree with the first part of your post. And I certainly love what I see from Rodgers for long term. I still very much disagree that it was the right move for the franchise. We could have had the best of both worlds. Rodgers was still under contract in 2009. We could have had Favre for one more year. If the Packers would have regressed I think Favre would have lost the itch to play and could have gone out with a bit of a Kareem farewell tour. If the Packers wouldnt have regressed well they would be doing awesome and then why even think about Rodgers?

I can see what you are saying...but don't disagree that its the best of both worlds.If they had regressed under Favre and he lost his itch and retired for good this time...how is that the best of both worlds?They would have spent another year not knowing what Rodgers could do, have Rodgers with just one year left...went another year without him getting real action or starter like reps. Pretty much just a total waste of the year.While this year was a waste in many aspects, having a better idea of Rodgers ability and giving him that year of experience is a huge positive IMO.

I dont really think Rodgers experience this year is too huge of a factor for the future. It will help a bit, but if this really were such a huge factor I think we would see a huge improvement from day 1 til now. I think it is pretty impossible to argue that Rodgers has really improved too much. In fact you could probably make the argument he has regressed. There are tons of non rookie first year starting QBs that are extremely successful right off the bat. There is also no doubt that they were committed to locking Rodgers up no matter what. They only waited til 7 games in this year and I am sure those negotiations didnt just start the day before they signed him. If all these injuries were going to happen and the team wasnt very good like many argue, I think a farewell tour for Brett Favre would have been far better for the fans than this big dump of a season.

 

[Sabertooth]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

I agree with the first part of your post. And I certainly love what I see from Rodgers for long term. I still very much disagree that it was the right move for the franchise. We could have had the best of both worlds. Rodgers was still under contract in 2009. We could have had Favre for one more year. If the Packers would have regressed I think Favre would have lost the itch to play and could have gone out with a bit of a Kareem farewell tour. If the Packers wouldnt have regressed well they would be doing awesome and then why even think about Rodgers?

What about the fact that Thompson and McCarthy gave Rodgers their word that he was the guy for 2008? Isn't a guys word his bond?

 

[sho nuff]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

I agree with the first part of your post. And I certainly love what I see from Rodgers for long term. I still very much disagree that it was the right move for the franchise. We could have had the best of both worlds. Rodgers was still under contract in 2009. We could have had Favre for one more year. If the Packers would have regressed I think Favre would have lost the itch to play and could have gone out with a bit of a Kareem farewell tour. If the Packers wouldnt have regressed well they would be doing awesome and then why even think about Rodgers?

I can see what you are saying...but don't disagree that its the best of both worlds.If they had regressed under Favre and he lost his itch and retired for good this time...how is that the best of both worlds?They would have spent another year not knowing what Rodgers could do, have Rodgers with just one year left...went another year without him getting real action or starter like reps. Pretty much just a total waste of the year.While this year was a waste in many aspects, having a better idea of Rodgers ability and giving him that year of experience is a huge positive IMO.

I dont really think Rodgers experience this year is too huge of a factor for the future. It will help a bit, but if this really were such a huge factor I think we would see a huge improvement from day 1 til now. I think it is pretty impossible to argue that Rodgers has really improved too much. In fact you could probably make the argument he has regressed. There are tons of non rookie first year starting QBs that are extremely successful right off the bat. There is also no doubt that they were committed to locking Rodgers up no matter what. They only waited til 7 games in this year and I am sure those negotiations didnt just start the day before they signed him. If all these injuries were going to happen and the team wasnt very good like many argue, I think a farewell tour for Brett Favre would have been far better for the fans than this big dump of a season.

I think his experience puts him a year further down the road...rather than coming in next year and being a first year starter (hopefully he learned from some of the mistakes he had this year).Your last line I just cannot agree with...and proves my point that if they were not going to win it all, bringing him back was about nostalgia and emotion.

 

[sho nuff]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

I agree with the first part of your post. And I certainly love what I see from Rodgers for long term. I still very much disagree that it was the right move for the franchise. We could have had the best of both worlds. Rodgers was still under contract in 2009. We could have had Favre for one more year. If the Packers would have regressed I think Favre would have lost the itch to play and could have gone out with a bit of a Kareem farewell tour. If the Packers wouldnt have regressed well they would be doing awesome and then why even think about Rodgers?

What about the fact that Thompson and McCarthy gave Rodgers their word that he was the guy for 2008? Isn't a guys word his bond?

Meh...I would have no problem with going back on such things like that...IMO, that was a nothing part of the story.

 

[zDragon]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

I agree with the first part of your post. And I certainly love what I see from Rodgers for long term. I still very much disagree that it was the right move for the franchise. We could have had the best of both worlds. Rodgers was still under contract in 2009. We could have had Favre for one more year. If the Packers would have regressed I think Favre would have lost the itch to play and could have gone out with a bit of a Kareem farewell tour. If the Packers wouldnt have regressed well they would be doing awesome and then why even think about Rodgers?

What about the fact that Thompson and McCarthy gave Rodgers their word that he was the guy for 2008? Isn't a guys word his bond?

True. Then again there are a lot of jerks around that this doesn't apply to and they would not even consider it an issue.With that being said. Did the coaches actually give Rodgers their word or just talk to him about taking over once Brett was gone. To me it would be in how they handled Rodgers which none of us really know so in actuality it's really not a discussion that would lead anywhere.

 

[zDragon]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

I agree with the first part of your post. And I certainly love what I see from Rodgers for long term. I still very much disagree that it was the right move for the franchise. We could have had the best of both worlds. Rodgers was still under contract in 2009. We could have had Favre for one more year. If the Packers would have regressed I think Favre would have lost the itch to play and could have gone out with a bit of a Kareem farewell tour. If the Packers wouldnt have regressed well they would be doing awesome and then why even think about Rodgers?

What about the fact that Thompson and McCarthy gave Rodgers their word that he was the guy for 2008? Isn't a guys word his bond?

Meh...I would have no problem with going back on such things like that...IMO, that was a nothing part of the story.

Correct. There's no way to tell what was actually said so it really is a nothing part of the story.

 

[sho nuff]

I am finally ready to admith that the transition from Favre to Rodgers has probably cost the Packers at least a couple of wins this year. Not do Favre's physical capabilities but his long earned leadership would have most likely pushed this team to win a few more close and probably be a playoff team.I still think the Packers made the correct decision for the franchise (although they could have handled it better). Favre would have maybe got them into the playoffs this season but I still don't believe they would have pulled it together enough to make a deep run into the playoffs. I still believe the time was right to make the change Rodgers and they will realize that over the next couple of years.

I agree with the first part of your post. And I certainly love what I see from Rodgers for long term. I still very much disagree that it was the right move for the franchise. We could have had the best of both worlds. Rodgers was still under contract in 2009. We could have had Favre for one more year. If the Packers would have regressed I think Favre would have lost the itch to play and could have gone out with a bit of a Kareem farewell tour. If the Packers wouldnt have regressed well they would be doing awesome and then why even think about Rodgers?

What about the fact that Thompson and McCarthy gave Rodgers their word that he was the guy for 2008? Isn't a guys word his bond?

Meh...I would have no problem with going back on such things like that...IMO, that was a nothing part of the story.

Correct. There's no way to tell what was actually said so it really is a nothing part of the story.

Even if they had come out and specifically promised him the job.I don't have a problem with them taking that back if they felt Favre was better or the answer for the team this year. IMO, they made the decision, and them giving Rodgers their word or annointing him really had little to do with why they stuck with him and not Favre.

 

[bcr8f]

Even if they had come out and specifically promised him the job.I don't have a problem with them taking that back if they felt Favre was better or the answer for the team this year. IMO, they made the decision, and them giving Rodgers their word or annointing him really had little to do with why they stuck with him and not Favre.

If it was one year and Rodgers got the job the next year and got playing time this year in blowouts I would have been fine with it.McCarthy and Favre met in TC to discuss a compromise and couldn't agree on one. I expect Favre turned such a deal down. That meant Rodgers would end up a free agent(2010) before Favre decided to retire.Favre's indecision came back to hurt everyone.

 

[sho nuff]

from McCarthy's presser after yesterday's practice...

Asked whether it's nice to not have to think about whether his starting quarterback is coming back next season, McCarthy smiled, waved and said, "Nice to see everybody" before leaving the podium. It was going to be the last question regardless.

 

[zDragon]

from McCarthy's presser after yesterday's practice...

Asked whether it's nice to not have to think about whether his starting quarterback is coming back next season, McCarthy smiled, waved and said, "Nice to see everybody" before leaving the podium. It was going to be the last question regardless.

And? Your point being?

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Can't we all just agree?

Rodgers = good

Packers = bad

 

[ScottyFargo]

Can't we all just agree?Rodgers = goodPackers = bad