What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

How's your housing market? (4 Viewers)

huthut said:
LA and San Diego have better beaches, but they do not have the same overwhelming density of high paying jobs. Bay area beaches are quite cold, but it is not like Santa Cruz or other beaches are that far away. It is more a confluence of factors of jobs + things to do, not that every aspect is the best you can find. 
Click to expand...
A lot of those high paying jobs are remote now.  But yes, if you need to find a job SF is better than SD...especially now with people fleeing pandemic stricken SF.

I meet way more people that have moved from SF to SD, than moved from SD to SF(when I lived in SF).  Here in North County SD the locals actually complain about the number of SF migrants.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
TripItUp said:
A lot of those high paying jobs are remote now.  But yes, if you need to find a job SF is better than SD...especially now with people fleeing pandemic stricken SF.

I meet way more people that have moved from SF to SD, than moved from SD to SF(when I lived in SF).  Here in North County SD the locals actually complain about the number of SF migrants.
Click to expand...
This may be true, but non-SD Californians seek to move to San Diego, whereas Americans, Germans, Japanese, Brits, Chinese, French, Indians, Canadians, etc. seek to move to the Bay Area. People around the world want to live here, and are still moving here.

People are leaving San Francisco, many are relocating elsewhere in the Bay Area. People don't want to be in condos, need houses with yards and extra rooms. I live in the Oakland hills (best weather in U.S.). There's not much inventory. Homes are selling for $1,000/sf. 

Realtors went to transparent pricing soon after COVID hit. That lasted a few weeks. Then the transparent pricing became the price that buyers had to exceed to have a chance at the house.

I'd say it's crazy, but it's not. It's been like this for two decades with the 2008-2010 blip being the anomaly. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Am I in some kind of alternate universe where people wonder what the draw is of the Bay Area? It’s freakin amazing here. Yes, expensive. But amazing. Did I mention the perfect sleeping weather? 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
The only problem is that unless you bought a house yesterday, you need a catalyst in order to afford one in the more desirable locations (aka solid 6 figure stock payout or similar). Both sides of my family has been in the bay area for generations. My grandparents bought houses for about $9 a sqft, my parents bought a house for about $45 a sqft, I ended up paying about $650 a sqft, and now all of those houses are ~$900-$1100 a sqft. It is pretty rare to run into anyone younger than 40 who has bought a house, with the most common scenario being two above average salaries and buying before prices fully recovered from the financial crash pre-2014-2015. I can definitely see the temptation for moving though, right now we feel super space constrained yet we can browse zillow or redfin and see a 3500 sqft mansion with 5 acres and a pool with a waterfall somewhere else for less than a down payment would be on a 3 bed 2 bath. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Sand said:
Newport, Johnson City - all those places on the edge of the Smokies are  :moneybag: .
Click to expand...
:jawdrop:

Johnson City is like stepping back in time.  The Trump yard signs in front of decaying single wides is hilarious.  If you happen to see someone wearing a mask in a gas station, run for the exit...a hold up is about to occur.

 
BassNBrew said:
:jawdrop:

Johnson City is like stepping back in time.  The Trump yard signs in front of decaying single wides is hilarious.  If you happen to see someone wearing a mask in a gas station, run for the exit...a hold up is about to occur.
Click to expand...
It's awesome. Stay away. We don't like your kind! 

 
Sand said:
I have been through there a while back.  Didn't seem that bad.  I would have said Pigeon Forge, but that is a tourist trap.  I do like that side of the Smokies/Appalachians.  And TN is pretty good for taxation.

Just don't suggest Knoxville.  There are some places sane folk shouldn't go.
Click to expand...
Pigeon Forge itself is ridiculous in not good ways, but that surrounding area is heavenly. No clue what it'd be like living there though. An investigation for another decade. 

 
Sand said:
I have been through there a while back.  Didn't seem that bad.  I would have said Pigeon Forge, but that is a tourist trap.  I do like that side of the Smokies/Appalachians.  And TN is pretty good for taxation.

Just don't suggest Knoxville.  There are some places sane folk shouldn't go.
Click to expand...
It's not that bad. Lol.  Folks are friendly. It's affordable and slow pace.  The overly political folks can only see things through that lens. The truth is most people don't give a damn about that sort of thing and are just trying to provide for their families.  It's a foreign concept to some people from the big cities. They think it just has to be a bunch of crazed racists with Trump signs and rebel flags roaming the countryside for minorities.  Couldn't be further from the truth. 

Pigeon Forge is terrible, though. I hate going through there. It feels like an infomercial. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
MAC_32 said:
Pigeon Forge itself is ridiculous in not good ways, but that surrounding area is heavenly. No clue what it'd be like living there though. An investigation for another decade. 
Click to expand...
Pigeon Forge has always been terrible. Just a massive tourist trap. Surrounding area is amazing but I doubt there are many jobs to be had. Would need some type of job to work from home. I prefer the middle part of the state. 

 
huthut said:
Not a finance person, but wouldn't higher interest rates mean people cannot spend as much on a house, lowering the price? 
Click to expand...
That's what I meant to say, low rates could be causing a bubble that future higher rates will burst. It's could  become irrational if there are bidding wars. But yea, supply is low in many places 

 
huthut said:
LA and San Diego have better beaches, but they do not have the same overwhelming density of high paying jobs. Bay area beaches are quite cold, but it is not like Santa Cruz or other beaches are that far away. It is more a confluence of factors of jobs + things to do, not that every aspect is the best you can find. 
Click to expand...
I live in SF for three years and have come to the conclusion that it is a great place to visit but a hard place to live.  Coming from LA, it is way more expensive.  I never thought i would say that about anywhere other than NY.   Also, the weather is awful.  No way people go there for beaches.  I lived in N. Bay commuting to the Financial District taking the ferry every AM to work.  That is a beautiful way to get to work.  

LA Housing market - I just received an appraisal on my house that i bought last year for a pending refinance that shows a 9.1% gain in value.  I was actually surprised by the appreciation!  Go Team!  

 
sbonomo said:
huthut said:
LA and San Diego have better beaches, but they do not have the same overwhelming density of high paying jobs. Bay area beaches are quite cold, but it is not like Santa Cruz or other beaches are that far away. It is more a confluence of factors of jobs + things to do, not that every aspect is the best you can find. 
Click to expand...
I live in SF for three years and have come to the conclusion that it is a great place to visit but a hard place to live.  Coming from LA, it is way more expensive.  I never thought i would say that about anywhere other than NY.   Also, the weather is awful.  No way people go there for beaches.  I lived in N. Bay commuting to the Financial District taking the ferry every AM to work.  That is a beautiful way to get to work.  

LA Housing market - I just received an appraisal on my house that i bought last year for a pending refinance that shows a 9.1% gain in value.  I was actually surprised by the appreciation!  Go Team!  
Click to expand...
Yeah I was born and raised in SD (live here now too) but went to college in Santa Cruz.  While I liked it there the beaches do not compare at all.  Can count how many time I went to the beach in SC on one hand.  

 
dkp993 said:
Yeah I was born and raised in SD (live here now too) but went to college in Santa Cruz.  While I liked it there the beaches do not compare at all.  Can count how many time I went to the beach in SC on one hand.  
Click to expand...
If you’re coming to NorCal for the beaches, you’re in the wrong place. :)  
NorCal has beautiful, mild weather. Its "winter" is just a rainy season. its abundance of trails, hills, lakes, outdoor activities, closeness to Tahoe, redwoods, sailing, etc are the reason to be here. If you want beach life, NorCal ain’t the place.

for me, LA and SoCal are not of interest with the really hot weather most of the year. AC on all the time. 
San Diego, though, seems like a nice compromise between LA and SF weather wise, at least. 

the main thing I DO like in LA over SF is the food. Maybe it's my NYC roots, but I can definitely get more of the foods I love in LA than I can in SF. More NY transplants in LA I assume. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Ada County (Boise) up 24% last 12 months.   
Canyon County (Nampa) up 33% last 12 months.

About 90 homes for sale in each county.  That's about 90% less then normal levels.

 
Palm Beach

Was done a couple months ago but there simply is no slow down here, in fact the Covid has done nothing to slow the market, if anything it has made Florida even more of a hot spot for folks from the North and MidWest, they love it here especially if they have left areas with extreme lockdown rules in place. 

 
joey said:
Am I in some kind of alternate universe where people wonder what the draw is of the Bay Area? It’s freakin amazing here. Yes, expensive. But amazing. Did I mention the perfect sleeping weather? 
Click to expand...
Air Conditioning = Perfect sleeping weather anywhere :lol:  

 
TripItUp said:
I was pointing out it's an over-generalization.  Many coastal cities don't use much AC.
Click to expand...
I know I was just giving you ####. I lived in the AZ desert (and used AC all year round) for ten years and the CA cities I listed seemed just as bad/hot.* 

 
Talk to me about selling a home via probate in CA. Don't want to get into details but lets assume I have a $600k home in Southern CA that has to go that route. What am I in for?

 
Housing market is pure fire here in So-Cal.  Homes in my neighborhood and the surrounding are selling for 50/60k over list, within 48hrs of listing.  Home are even appraising for what they are selling for so people are having to come up with cash for the over.   It's mania honestly

 
@tommyGunZthis is still my favorite all-time thread.  (other than that thread with the dude going camping and his friend Steve hooking up with his girlfriend...or was it his wife??)   

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Zow said:
Barstow, Needles, Ridgecrest, Victorville, Palm Springs, etc. all don't require AC on all the time?
Click to expand...
None of those desert towns are considered Southern Cal.  And not what the poster was referring to as such. 

I'll give you Palm Springs. 

But Barstow?  :lmao:   And Needles!  That's the best one.  Near the Nevada border and a lot closer to Vegas than LA/SD.

Wait, no Ridgecrest is even better.  LOFL, it's actually north of Bakersfield.  Might as well throw San Luis Obispo (south of Ridgecrest) in there while you're at it.

Where did you come up with these???

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Same here in SE Michigan. Family friends bought a minor fixer upper home for $180,000 2.5 years ago, just sold for $390,000 cash. 

 
joey said:
Sounds like you live somewhere uncomfortably hot. That’s ok. ;)  
Click to expand...
Naw just couldn't pay me enough to live in the Bay Area. Fun place to visit but if you GAVE me a house there, I'd sell it and buy in SD if I HAD to live in Cali.  I don't mind swinging by for a long weekend every couple years tho! :D  

Beach house in Guanacaste Province of Costa Rica would be a significant upgrade for 1/3 the price though. :lol:  
 

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
The Houston market is hot, too.  People are moving here in droves, and there's only so much housing inside the Loop.
Click to expand...


I am in 77478 and we bought our house 8 years ago for 250k. We have seen many similar sized houses in our neighborhood sell for 260-280 over for most of that time span, however in the last year prices shot up and now they are sold in days for 350-370.

There were 7 years with practically no house price appreciation and 1 year of ridiculous appreciation.

Property taxes are going to suck :rant:

:edit: In my neighborhood 90% of the houses are double story monster houses and we have one of the few single story reasonably sized houses. The monster houses have not seen as much growth in price.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Rodrigo Duterte said:
None of those desert towns are considered Southern Cal.  And not what the poster was referring to as such. 

I'll give you Palm Springs. 

But Barstow?  :lmao:   And Needles!  That's the best one.  Near the Nevada border and a lot closer to Vegas than LA/SD.

Wait, no Ridgecrest is even better.  LOFL, it's actually north of Bakersfield.  Might as well throw San Luis Obispo (south of Ridgecrest) in there while you're at it.

Where did you come up with these???
Click to expand...
Are't they in Southern CA? :shrug:  

 
Zow said:
Are't they in Southern CA? :shrug:  
Click to expand...
Depends on the definition of "Southern", counselor. Per wiki:

Southern California is not a formal geographic designation and definitions of what constitutes southern California vary. Geographically, California's north–south midway point lies at exactly 37° 9' 58.23" latitude, around 11 miles (18 km) south of San Jose; however, this does not coincide with the popular use of the term. When the state is divided into two areas (northern and southern California), the term southern California usually refers to the 10 southernmost counties of the state. This definition coincides neatly with the county lines at 35° 47′ 28″ North latitude, which form the northern borders of San Luis Obispo, Kern, and San Bernardino counties. That closely matches the lower one-third of California's span of latitude. Another definition for southern California uses Point Conception and the Tehachapi Mountains as geographical landmarks for the northern boundary.
Click to expand...
ETA: i'm too lazy to see if the cities mentioned are actually in the 10 counties listed. But also wanted to say that I've got relatives in CA and those relatives only consider something to be southern CA if its more or less coastal. Sample size is like 2, so take that for what its worth. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
[icon] said:
Naw just couldn't pay me enough to live in the Bay Area. Fun place to visit but if you GAVE me a house there, I'd sell it and buy in SD if I HAD to live in Cali.  I don't mind swinging by for a long weekend every couple years tho! :D  

Beach house in Guanacaste Province of Costa Rica would be a significant upgrade for 1/3 the price though. :lol:  
 
Click to expand...
100 times out of 100 when someone says “you couldn’t pay me to live there”, it’s a place they can’t afford.  

 
Zow said:
Are't they in Southern CA? :shrug:  
Click to expand...
If you wanna get cute and draw a line through the middle of Cali and call it two parts and be lawyer guy, go for it.

Otherwise, the point you were trying to make was way off.  Like, as far off as thinking a town north of Bakersfield and SLO is in SoCal.

 
Rodrigo Duterte said:
None of those desert towns are considered Southern Cal.  And not what the poster was referring to as such. 

I'll give you Palm Springs. 

But Barstow?  :lmao:   And Needles!  That's the best one.  Near the Nevada border and a lot closer to Vegas than LA/SD.

Wait, no Ridgecrest is even better.  LOFL, it's actually north of Bakersfield.  Might as well throw San Luis Obispo (south of Ridgecrest) in there while you're at it.

Where did you come up with these???
Click to expand...
Will be in Ridgecrest this fall. Wife's hometown! 

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Mark Wimer
Injury Recap, All 32 teams Offensive Skill positions
2 3
Replies
100
Views
15K
DenverBlitz
D

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 3 (members: 0, guests: 3)
Back
Top