Humanitarian crisis at US border (1 Viewer)

[msommer]

Thanks for the responses. Also, thanks to all those people who sent me "likes" for my comments in this thread. I'll try to respond to a few points:

1. Buddy Ball, my beliefs on this issue have been consistent for a very long time (well before I arrived in this forum). There is no shtick. As for whether or not I am smart or stupid, that's another matter.

2. Strike, your "evidence", like the evidence that Rove posted, like the evidence that Rick Perry spoke of, is crap. Terrorists arrive here in a variety of ways, including across the southern border. But to use that as an excuse to close the border is asinine, and in flies in the face of all of your arguments about how gun control restrictions won't be effective (most of which I have come to accept). No gun control law is going to prevent a school shooting, and no fence is going to prevent a terrorist from coming here. It's the same principle.

3. Court Jester, I agree with most of your stated concerns about illegal immigrants. When I claim they are a benefit, what I mean to say is that they are a NET benefit. The positive, IMO, outweighs the negative. But that doesn't mean the negative doesn't exist. But putting that all aside, this very real tragedy involves starving children. No matter how you feel about illegal immigration, how can we turn our back on them?

What about our own poor, starving children?

We feed and shelter them as well, of course.

And the ones in Iraq?Syria?

Somalia?

You feed and shelter them too, or is it someone else's problem?

Well theyre not here. But to answer your question, it's not a bad idea at all. It might accomplish a whole lot more than bombs.

You're in Cali, right. Then don't worry about it. They're in Texas. Someone else's problem too

 

[Slapdash]

Tim doubling down on the ignorance in here.

Really? I like you mr. roboto. What have I written here that in your opinion is ignorant?

I think you've got some real pie-in-the-sky thoughts on immigration.

I think there is a lot of that going both ways here.

 

[avoiding injuries]

just understand no one is denying them the right from coming here legally. Walk to the border office and fill out some forms

Wow. And you people are seriously complaining that Tim doesn't live in reality?

Reality is, those are the rules in place. And if they're not followed, it shouldn't be a surprise that they're not allowed to stay.

 

[Slapdash]

Whats Mexico doing about this?

Sending the US more drugs. We have quite the appetite.

Not like they can affordably grow other crops that complete with US goods given our massive subsides.

 

[timschochet]

I don't think there are MILLIONS of homeless and malnourished children in this country.

You can't be serious

1.7 million is not "millions". It's still way too many though. And I shouldn't have written that about malnourished. But by repeating only this sentence you took me out of context. The important point, which I made directly after, is that there shouldn't be any of either.

 

[Kal El]

What's the problem with building a big wall?

Seems like a much cheaper way than paying a ton of police to patrol everywhere. Probably more effective too.

Because that's not what we're about. And because it would seriously impact our trade and relations with Mexico and Latin America in general. And because it would be viewed, correctly, as racist (since there is no talk of a wall on our northern border.)

And there goes the last bit of credibility the word "racist" had.

If you put a wall on our southern border, and not on our northern border, how can anyone NOT regard that as racially motivated?

To me, and probably everyone else here, it's not a race issue. It's an issue of where is the problem the worst? Pretty much any country with an issue of people jumping borders into it are going to step up patrols along said border. In our case, we share land boundaries with a grand total of two other nations. A nation with 6 others surrounding it, yet having trouble with only one, is going to step up patrols near that nation.

 

[Slapdash]

I don't think there are MILLIONS of homeless and malnourished children in this country.

You can't be serious

1.7 million is not "millions". It's still way too many though. And I shouldn't have written that about malnourished.But by repeating only this sentence you took me out of context. The important point, which I made directly after, is that there shouldn't be any of either.

You didn't just say homeless.

 

[Slapdash]

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[matttyl]

I don't think there are MILLIONS of homeless and malnourished children in this country.

You can't be serious

1.7 million is not "millions". It's still way too many though. And I shouldn't have written that about malnourished.But by repeating only this sentence you took me out of context. The important point, which I made directly after, is that there shouldn't be any of either.

Agree, so lets solve those crises which is only getting worse year by year before we go knowingly adding to both at an alarming rate that is also only increasing.

 

[humpback]

Thanks for the responses. Also, thanks to all those people who sent me "likes" for my comments in this thread. I'll try to respond to a few points:

1. Buddy Ball, my beliefs on this issue have been consistent for a very long time (well before I arrived in this forum). There is no shtick. As for whether or not I am smart or stupid, that's another matter.

2. Strike, your "evidence", like the evidence that Rove posted, like the evidence that Rick Perry spoke of, is crap. Terrorists arrive here in a variety of ways, including across the southern border. But to use that as an excuse to close the border is asinine, and in flies in the face of all of your arguments about how gun control restrictions won't be effective (most of which I have come to accept). No gun control law is going to prevent a school shooting, and no fence is going to prevent a terrorist from coming here. It's the same principle.

3. Court Jester, I agree with most of your stated concerns about illegal immigrants. When I claim they are a benefit, what I mean to say is that they are a NET benefit. The positive, IMO, outweighs the negative. But that doesn't mean the negative doesn't exist. But putting that all aside, this very real tragedy involves starving children. No matter how you feel about illegal immigration, how can we turn our back on them?

What about our own poor, starving children?

We feed and shelter them as well, of course.

We have millions of poor, homeless, and/or malnourished children in the US, and we don't have unlimited resources. What could go wrong with spreading those resources thinner?

I don't think there are MILLIONS of homeless and malnourished children in this country. But however many there are, please don't tell me we don't have the resources to feed them all. That's nonsense.

You constantly talk out of your ###- maybe try the Google before posting in the future?

 

[The Commish]

I don't think there are MILLIONS of homeless and malnourished children in this country.

You can't be serious

1.7 million is not "millions". It's still way too many though. And I shouldn't have written that about malnourished.But by repeating only this sentence you took me out of context. The important point, which I made directly after, is that there shouldn't be any of either.

Why did you choose to only user 1.7 million as your number when your comment was about both homeless and malnourished? I'm taking YOU out of context?

I commented on this sentence specifically because your foundation is off....as is evidence of this statement. The premise that follows matters in the context of how dire our child homelessness/malnutrition is in this country. The point being, if we are indeed the greatest country in the world, then why are we failing our children so blatantly and what makes ANYONE think we can handle illegal immigrants in addition to the kids we are already showing we can't handle. It makes zero sense.

None of that is to say what we "should" or "shouldn't" be doing. It's addressing what we " can" and "can't" do. At some point you need to hop down out of your ivory tower and realize the realities we are facing as a country and begin to address things from a position of feasibility vs ideology.

 

[timschochet]

I don't think there are MILLIONS of homeless and malnourished children in this country.

You can't be serious

1.7 million is not "millions". It's still way too many though. And I shouldn't have written that about malnourished.But by repeating only this sentence you took me out of context. The important point, which I made directly after, is that there shouldn't be any of either.

You didn't just say homeless.

Mea culpa

 

[Kal El]

In the defense of the children, however, the path to citizenship should be streamlined. From what I read, the average legal immigrant has to wait almost a decade before being able to become a citizen, thanks to the backlog of applications.

That being said, we're already stretched thin enough as it is with our own children facing hardships. More children will only exacerbate the problem.

 

[timschochet]

I don't think there are MILLIONS of homeless and malnourished children in this country.

You can't be serious

1.7 million is not "millions". It's still way too many though. And I shouldn't have written that about malnourished.But by repeating only this sentence you took me out of context. The important point, which I made directly after, is that there shouldn't be any of either.

Why did you choose to only user 1.7 million as your number when your comment was about both homeless and malnourished? I'm taking YOU out of context?

I commented on this sentence specifically because your foundation is off....as is evidence of this statement. The premise that follows matters in the context of how dire our child homelessness/malnutrition is in this country. The point being, if we are indeed the greatest country in the world, then why are we failing our children so blatantly and what makes ANYONE think we can handle illegal immigrants in addition to the kids we are already showing we can't handle. It makes zero sense.

None of that is to say what we "should" or "shouldn't" be doing. It's addressing what we " can" and "can't" do. At some point you need to hop down out of your ivory tower and realize the realities we are facing as a country and begin to address things from a position of feasibility vs ideology.

We can feed and shelter all of the children in this country, and we can feed and shelter all of the children on our border. It is NOT a question of "can't." If we're not doing it, then we're choosing not to do it. And I can't find any justification for that, frankly.

 

[timschochet]

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Unfortunately, though I'm getting an awful lot of "likes" for my posts, there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to come in here and face down the crowd other than me. If there were, I would certainly post less.

 

[timschochet]

What's the problem with building a big wall?

Seems like a much cheaper way than paying a ton of police to patrol everywhere. Probably more effective too.

Because that's not what we're about. And because it would seriously impact our trade and relations with Mexico and Latin America in general. And because it would be viewed, correctly, as racist (since there is no talk of a wall on our northern border.)

And there goes the last bit of credibility the word "racist" had.

If you put a wall on our southern border, and not on our northern border, how can anyone NOT regard that as racially motivated?

To me, and probably everyone else here, it's not a race issue. It's an issue of where is the problem the worst? Pretty much any country with an issue of people jumping borders into it are going to step up patrols along said border. In our case, we share land boundaries with a grand total of two other nations. A nation with 6 others surrounding it, yet having trouble with only one, is going to step up patrols near that nation.

Ka El, I don't believe you are a racist. And I don't believe that most people in this forum, and most of those who disagree with me on this issue, are racist. I already acknowledged that earlier in the thread. You guys have your reasons for being on the opposite side of this issue from me; I disagree with your reasons, but I respect them and they are not illegitimate.

But that being said, this whole issue is imbued with racism, and I don't think you can deny that racism informs a lot of the people who take a strong stance for putting up walls on our southern border. Certainly I can guarantee you that a strong majority of Latinos in this country see it this way.

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

So this is the type of things that happen when we don't secure our borders. It is so ridiculus for a nation to not secure its own borders. From National security perspective and the cruel to the people coming. We need to secure the border and try to figure out a number of immigrants we need. Like we use to do. Unfortunately powers on the right and left don't want it.

And plenty of racism going on in the let the brown people come do the dirty jobs so I don't have to and I don't have to pay american wage level to get it done. Plenty of "that's what brown folks are good for" thoughts going on.

 

[timschochet]

In the defense of the children, however, the path to citizenship should be streamlined. From what I read, the average legal immigrant has to wait almost a decade before being able to become a citizen, thanks to the backlog of applications.

That being said, we're already stretched thin enough as it is with our own children facing hardships. More children will only exacerbate the problem.

This is the main point of our disagreement.

 

[Socrates11]

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Unfortunately, though I'm getting an awful lot of "likes" for my posts, there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to come in here and face down the crowd other than me. If there were, I would certainly post less.

http://xkcd.com/386/

 

[Kal El]

I don't think there are MILLIONS of homeless and malnourished children in this country.

You can't be serious

1.7 million is not "millions". It's still way too many though. And I shouldn't have written that about malnourished.But by repeating only this sentence you took me out of context. The important point, which I made directly after, is that there shouldn't be any of either.

Why did you choose to only user 1.7 million as your number when your comment was about both homeless and malnourished? I'm taking YOU out of context?I commented on this sentence specifically because your foundation is off....as is evidence of this statement. The premise that follows matters in the context of how dire our child homelessness/malnutrition is in this country. The point being, if we are indeed the greatest country in the world, then why are we failing our children so blatantly and what makes ANYONE think we can handle illegal immigrants in addition to the kids we are already showing we can't handle. It makes zero sense.

None of that is to say what we "should" or "shouldn't" be doing. It's addressing what we " can" and "can't" do. At some point you need to hop down out of your ivory tower and realize the realities we are facing as a country and begin to address things from a position of feasibility vs ideology.

We can feed and shelter all of the children in this country, and we can feed and shelter all of the children on our border. It is NOT a question of "can't." If we're not doing it, then we're choosing not to do it. And I can't find any justification for that, frankly.

Where are these children going to go, if we can do all these things? If we can fix the problem, why hasn't the problem been eliminated yet? Is the government going to take care of them? We've seen how they handle veterans, mainly poorly, and now we're going to entrust children to them?Also, the choice argument goes both ways. Just as someone can choose not to help someone, the person in need of help has to choose to ask for it. Granted, there are many who need help and don't get it (Again with the VA scandal), but the system simply cannot handle the extra workload. In a perfect world, these kids would go to loving homes and everything would be great, and I, for one, would love for that to happen. But you and I both know that's not the case, and this issue is going to be very large problem.

 

[Kal El]

What's the problem with building a big wall?

Seems like a much cheaper way than paying a ton of police to patrol everywhere. Probably more effective too.

Because that's not what we're about. And because it would seriously impact our trade and relations with Mexico and Latin America in general. And because it would be viewed, correctly, as racist (since there is no talk of a wall on our northern border.)

And there goes the last bit of credibility the word "racist" had.

If you put a wall on our southern border, and not on our northern border, how can anyone NOT regard that as racially motivated?

To me, and probably everyone else here, it's not a race issue. It's an issue of where is the problem the worst? Pretty much any country with an issue of people jumping borders into it are going to step up patrols along said border. In our case, we share land boundaries with a grand total of two other nations. A nation with 6 others surrounding it, yet having trouble with only one, is going to step up patrols near that nation.

Ka El, I don't believe you are a racist. And I don't believe that most people in this forum, and most of those who disagree with me on this issue, are racist. I already acknowledged that earlier in the thread. You guys have your reasons for being on the opposite side of this issue from me; I disagree with your reasons, but I respect them and they are not illegitimate.But that being said, this whole issue is imbued with racism, and I don't think you can deny that racism informs a lot of the people who take a strong stance for putting up walls on our southern border. Certainly I can guarantee you that a strong majority of Latinos in this country see it this way.

I won't argue that racial prejudice is at work in the lives of Latinos and Americans. Many Latinos are either taught, or simply learn, to distrust white people, and that's not unfounded. Neither is the idea that many Latinos are crooks, because there are many that willingly break the law. But to define a person based on a stereotype is only going to lead to trouble.

 

[timschochet]

I don't disagree with you about the problems involved Ka El, but what is to be done? Are we really going to take Icon's advice and not feed these children and send them packing? Is that who we are? I'd be ashamed if our government did that, wouldn't you?

You guys keep raising other questions:

What to do about illegal immigration?

Shouldn't we build a fence?

What about the starving and malnourished children already here?

What about the starving children around the world?

If we feed these children, what do we do with them afterwards?

These are all good questions, and I've tried to answer them. But none of them are pertinent to the IMMEDIATE issue: there are starving children on our border, begging us to feed and shelter them. Can we turn them away? Most of you here are Christians. Can you turn them away?

 

[Kal El]

I don't disagree with you about the problems involved Ka El, but what is to be done? Are we really going to take Icon's advice and not feed these children and send them packing? Is that who we are? I'd be ashamed if our government did that, wouldn't you?

You guys keep raising other questions:

What to do about illegal immigration?

Shouldn't we build a fence?

What about the starving and malnourished children already here?

What about the starving children around the world?

If we feed these children, what do we do with them afterwards?

These are all good questions, and I've tried to answer them. But none of them are pertinent to the IMMEDIATE issue: there are starving children on our border, begging us to feed and shelter them. Can we turn them away? Most of you here are Christians. Can you turn them away?

They certainly should be fed/ taken care of somehow until adequate plans can be made, but that's a temporary solution, and this problem is showing no signs of going away anytime soon. Any solution that arises is certain to be met with disagreement from at least part of the population, and people have this incredible tendency to exploit problems for their own gain, often to the detriment of the very people they're supposedly helping.

 

[timschochet]

I don't disagree with you about the problems involved Ka El, but what is to be done? Are we really going to take Icon's advice and not feed these children and send them packing? Is that who we are? I'd be ashamed if our government did that, wouldn't you?

You guys keep raising other questions:

What to do about illegal immigration?

Shouldn't we build a fence?

What about the starving and malnourished children already here?

What about the starving children around the world?

If we feed these children, what do we do with them afterwards?

These are all good questions, and I've tried to answer them. But none of them are pertinent to the IMMEDIATE issue: there are starving children on our border, begging us to feed and shelter them. Can we turn them away? Most of you here are Christians. Can you turn them away?

They certainly should be fed/ taken care of somehow until adequate plans can be made, but that's a temporary solution, and this problem is showing no signs of going away anytime soon. Any solution that arises is certain to be met with disagreement from at least part of the population, and people have this incredible tendency to exploit problems for their own gain, often to the detriment of the very people they're supposedly helping.

All true.

I recognize that my own views on illegal immigration aren't exactly popular. We can argue those later (though I doubt I will change anyone's mind.) But feeding and sheltering children who arrive on our doorstep is something that we should all be unified on.

 

[matttyl]

In the defense of the children, however, the path to citizenship should be streamlined. From what I read, the average legal immigrant has to wait almost a decade before being able to become a citizen, thanks to the backlog of applications.

That being said, we're already stretched thin enough as it is with our own children facing hardships. More children will only exacerbate the problem.

This is the main point of our disagreement.

You do realize that we already have to borrow money and take on more debt just to fulfill the obligations we already have to face the hardships of our own citizens? Are you proposing raising taxes so that we can also pay for all these other children and illegal citizens?

 

[tdoss]

Catapult

 

[Ghost Rider]

Whats Mexico doing about this?

Basically taking a #### all over us.

And people like tim here want to lay down underneath them while they squat.

 

[timschochet]

Whats Mexico doing about this?

Basically taking a #### all over us.

And people like tim here want to lay down underneath them while they squat.

WTF? Nice analogy, guy.

 

[Slapdash]

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Unfortunately, though I'm getting an awful lot of "likes" for my posts, there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to come in here and face down the crowd other than me. If there were, I would certainly post less.

People probably agree with your perspective, but don't want to support your dog-#### arguments.

 

[Kal El]

I will say that there is quite a bit of farmland that has fallen into disuse thanks in part to the downturn of the economy, and there might be a way to utilize that land to make more food to feed those who need it.

 

[timschochet]

In the defense of the children, however, the path to citizenship should be streamlined. From what I read, the average legal immigrant has to wait almost a decade before being able to become a citizen, thanks to the backlog of applications.

That being said, we're already stretched thin enough as it is with our own children facing hardships. More children will only exacerbate the problem.

This is the main point of our disagreement.

You do realize that we already have to borrow money and take on more debt just to fulfill the obligations we already have to face the hardships of our own citizens? Are you proposing raising taxes so that we can also pay for all these other children and illegal citizens?

When it comes to the overall federal budget, feeding children and helping people through hardships represents a pretty small percentage. It's certainly not the reason that we face a deficit every year.

 

[timschochet]

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Unfortunately, though I'm getting an awful lot of "likes" for my posts, there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to come in here and face down the crowd other than me. If there were, I would certainly post less.

People probably agree with your perspective, but don't want to support your dog-#### arguments.

You know, you could be right about that...

 

[Ghost Rider]

Whats Mexico doing about this?

Basically taking a #### all over us.

And people like tim here want to lay down underneath them while they squat.

WTF? Nice analogy, guy.

Nearly everything you have said in this thread indicates that you are fine with Mexico taking this dump all over us, so it's natural to assume that you'd love to lay down and let them do it all over your face and chest.

 

[matttyl]

In the defense of the children, however, the path to citizenship should be streamlined. From what I read, the average legal immigrant has to wait almost a decade before being able to become a citizen, thanks to the backlog of applications.

That being said, we're already stretched thin enough as it is with our own children facing hardships. More children will only exacerbate the problem.

This is the main point of our disagreement.

You do realize that we already have to borrow money and take on more debt just to fulfill the obligations we already have to face the hardships of our own citizens? Are you proposing raising taxes so that we can also pay for all these other children and illegal citizens?

When it comes to the overall federal budget, feeding children and helping people through hardships represents a pretty small percentage. It's certainly not the reason that we face a deficit every year.

So if we feed the young that are coming now, are we going to turn away the older that come later, in droves? First it's food and shelter, then it's healthcare, then it's education - and it continues with the next generation. At what point is the "moral obligation" over?

SS, Medicare and Medicaid were nearly 50% of the federal budget last year, with another 6.3% of it being interest on what we already can't pay. I fully understand that it's not all going to children, but are you going to give something to children and hold it back from an adult who also shows up at our border?

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

We can't become the orphanage for Central and South America.

oh yes we can. And we should.

Oh this thread is gonna be doozy. :settlesin:

 

[Bogeys]

Whats Mexico doing about this?

Basically taking a #### all over us.

And people like tim here want to lay down underneath them while they squat.

WTF? Nice analogy, guy.

Nearly everything you have said in this thread indicates that you are fine with Mexico taking this dump all over us, so it's natural to assume that you'd love to lay down and let them do it all over your face and chest.

Not to defend Tim here, but aren't most of the kids from south of Mexico? Honduras I think? I agree Mexico really doesn't act like a friend when it comes to immigration and their policies on their southern border would make Tim faint if we instituted them here.

 

[The Commish]

I don't think there are MILLIONS of homeless and malnourished children in this country.

You can't be serious

1.7 million is not "millions". It's still way too many though. And I shouldn't have written that about malnourished.But by repeating only this sentence you took me out of context. The important point, which I made directly after, is that there shouldn't be any of either.

Why did you choose to only user 1.7 million as your number when your comment was about both homeless and malnourished? I'm taking YOU out of context?

I commented on this sentence specifically because your foundation is off....as is evidence of this statement. The premise that follows matters in the context of how dire our child homelessness/malnutrition is in this country. The point being, if we are indeed the greatest country in the world, then why are we failing our children so blatantly and what makes ANYONE think we can handle illegal immigrants in addition to the kids we are already showing we can't handle. It makes zero sense.

None of that is to say what we "should" or "shouldn't" be doing. It's addressing what we " can" and "can't" do. At some point you need to hop down out of your ivory tower and realize the realities we are facing as a country and begin to address things from a position of feasibility vs ideology.

We can feed and shelter all of the children in this country, and we can feed and shelter all of the children on our border. It is NOT a question of "can't." If we're not doing it, then we're choosing not to do it. And I can't find any justification for that, frankly.

Have you ever researched why we aren't doing more in this country for our own?

 

[The Commish]

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Unfortunately, though I'm getting an awful lot of "likes" for my posts, there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to come in here and face down the crowd other than me. If there were, I would certainly post less.

You have two "liked" posts in this thread

 

[johnnycakes]

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Unfortunately, though I'm getting an awful lot of "likes" for my posts, there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to come in here and face down the crowd other than me. If there were, I would certainly post less.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

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Unfortunately, though I'm getting an awful lot of "likes" for my posts, there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to come in here and face down the crowd other than me. If there were, I would certainly post less.

You have two "liked" posts in this thread

 

[The Commish]

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Unfortunately, though I'm getting an awful lot of "likes" for my posts, there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to come in here and face down the crowd other than me. If there were, I would certainly post less.

You have two "liked" posts in this thread

In his defense, I can see how he'd think that's a lot of likes for his posts

 

[CBusAlex]

Nearly everything you have said in this thread indicates that you are fine with Mexico taking this dump all over us, so it's natural to assume that you'd love to lay down and let them do it all over your face and chest.

I'm confused. In this analogy, children = feces, yes?

 

[timschochet]

It was actually 3. And that's more than I normally get.

 

[timschochet]

Nearly everything you have said in this thread indicates that you are fine with Mexico taking this dump all over us, so it's natural to assume that you'd love to lay down and let them do it all over your face and chest.

I'm confused. In this analogy, children = feces, yes?

Apparently to Ghost Rider, yes.

(Though how can you see anything when you've got a skull for a head surrounded by flame?)

 

[timschochet]

Just looked at my likes again. I have received 6 likes from this thread. The most recent was just now, but I had 5 this morning, well before Commish posted, so I don't know where he got 2 from.

 

[The Commish]

Just looked at my likes again. I have received 6 likes from this thread. The most recent was just now, but I had 5 this morning, well before Commish posted, so I don't know where he got 2 from.

Because I was looking at the number of posts as I said in my comment.

ETA: And until dgreen pulled a funny....it was two posts. One had multiple likes.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Just looked at my likes again. I have received 6 likes from this thread. The most recent was just now, but I had 5 this morning, well before Commish posted, so I don't know where he got 2 from.

You should celebrate with your family tonight and tell them all about it!

 

[humpback]

Just looked at my likes again. I have received 6 likes from this thread. The most recent was just now, but I had 5 this morning, well before Commish posted, so I don't know where he got 2 from.

Who gives a ####? I have to assume you're the reason there isn't a dislike button on here because the interwebs would crash if there was.

 

[timschochet]

Just looked at my likes again. I have received 6 likes from this thread. The most recent was just now, but I had 5 this morning, well before Commish posted, so I don't know where he got 2 from.

Because I was looking at the number of posts as I said in my comment.

I wrote, "I'm getting an awful lot of likes for my posts."

 

[timschochet]

Just looked at my likes again. I have received 6 likes from this thread. The most recent was just now, but I had 5 this morning, well before Commish posted, so I don't know where he got 2 from.

You should celebrate with your family tonight and tell them all about it!

Thanks, I will!