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I don't think anything in Fantasy Football bothers me more than when I put a trade offer before a league member and they don't have the common courtesy to even acknowledge receipt of the offer let alone respond with an "accept" or "reject" reply.

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I don't think anything in Fantasy Football bothers me more than when I put a trade offer before a league member and they don't have the common courtesy to even acknowledge receipt of the offer let alone respond with an "accept" or "reject" reply. :censored:
I've had an offer of Cutler for Brees unacknowledged on a league-mate's desk for two weeks. But it actually bothered me more when I proposed Holt and B. Jacobs for Portis and the offer was countered with A. Thomas and Ginn for Holt and Jacobs.
 
I'd rather get terrible trade offers than no response to an offer at all. That is the worst.

 
If I don't accept or counter a trade offer, I always let the offer sit, without response. This is my modus operandi.
I always respond to trade offers, always do so politely, and usually offer a counter.I find that doing so has kept the trade offers coming.I've pulled off some nice trades in my favor that started out as someone offering me a crappy trade. You never know where a conversation will go, but if you refuse to talk I guarantee that the conversation is going nowhere.
 
this does bother me as well, but it also means the guy is considering it (maybe). what bothers me more is the no response to a private message regarding a trade. that's just wrong. that or guys who don't change their lineups. ruins the league

 
sometimes a will offer a trade gem just to see who responds. :rolleyes: then will deny it. :rolleyes:
If I get a silly trade offer I respond with a link. The link is to a picture of a T-shirt showing pictures of 2 hands. The first hand has a middle finger in the air. The second hand has a finger pointing in the other direction.
 
sometimes a will offer a trade gem just to see who responds. :rolleyes: then will deny it. :rolleyes:
If I get a silly trade offer I respond with a link. The link is to a picture of a T-shirt showing pictures of 2 hands. The first hand has a middle finger in the air. The second hand has a finger pointing in the other direction.
Post the trade offer on the league message board and add sarcastic comments for all leaguemates to see.
 
I don't think anything in Fantasy Football bothers me more than when I put a trade offer before a league member and they don't have the common courtesy to even acknowledge receipt of the offer let alone respond with an "accept" or "reject" reply. :thumbup:
I've had an offer of Cutler for Brees unacknowledged on a league-mate's desk for two weeks. But it actually bothered me more when I proposed Holt and B. Jacobs for Portis and the offer was countered with A. Thomas and Ginn for Holt and Jacobs.
The guy who offered me the trade owns Travis Henry and I picked up Young this morning. Ha.
 
Yeah. Trade offers that collect mold are one of my biggest pet peeves, too. The worst is when the majority of the league is like that.

 
Yeah. Trade offers that collect mold are one of my biggest pet peeves, too. The worst is when the majority of the league is like that.
Yeah...or when they reply with a simple "No, I don't wanna do that", but no reasoning as to why not, and no counter. If you just don't want to trade that guy, at least say that, or tell me my offer sucked...or something.I always accept, counter, or say why I don't want to pursue it further. It's just (not all that) common courtesy.

 
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If I don't accept or counter a trade offer, I always let the offer sit, without response. This is my modus operandi.
I have a counter offer pending for Rudi (ME) and Lendale (Him), The guy is not smart at FF and thinks that every trade offer I do with him I am trying to shaft him so he does ridiculous counter offers like this. None the less I will wait on this offer and use it to my advantage in case Rudi does not came back then I will accept his offer if Rudi is out for long..Some people always try to get something for nothing, that is why they don't go anywhere
 
Does this happen to you guys? I hate it when I get an offer, usually one that looks very attractive, only to see that it's been withdrawn before I can accept, reject or counter. Used to be just one guy in my big $ league doing this regularly--now the fungus has spread. Both say they do it just to get the ball rolling...I say, it's crap. They don't get many if any trades through--so this just ends up wasting time. Grrrrr.

 
Actually, I don't like other owners offering me trades without trade discussions first. My email is readily available, and I respond very quickly to my emails.

 
I don't think anything in Fantasy Football bothers me more than when I put a trade offer before a league member and they don't have the common courtesy to even acknowledge receipt of the offer let alone respond with an "accept" or "reject" reply. :lmao:
I agree...in $$$ leagues. No matter the type of trade offer, outlandish, one sided BS offer, I think a response is a must.Edited to state: when I say you, it is not aimed at the OP, just a general statement.In free leagues.....there is alot of grey area. If I get offers that are pure crap and have no thought (i.e. a defense that sucks, a WR that plays mostly special teams and a RB that is on the practice squad for SJax, with a comment about SJax being hurt so I should do the trade).....well please tell me why I should spend my time logging on to the web site, scrolling down to that league, find the trade offer, and reject it. Sorry, but intrigue me a little in a free league if you want me to spend any time on evaluating a trade with you. I do not and will not get into a negotiation for a trade in a free league unless you intrigue me. That being said, if you make at least a half arsed effort in a trade offer in the free league, then I'll try and explore options in a player trade you present. Otherwise, I will filter out your offer and not give a $hi_ about it at all.
 
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Actually, I don't like other owners offering me trades without trade discussions first. My email is readily available, and I respond very quickly to my emails.
That one doesn't bother me, and I make offers without previous discussions. When I'm offering a trade it's never as a prelude to dealing with several counter offers--though I can handle that too--I try to make it a fair offer to begin with since there are no easy marks in my league anyway. I do generally include a synopsis within the official trade offer of where I think it might help both teams though.I'm with the OP--there are a couple teams in my league who historically never even respond, and it's frustrating. I made an offer in preseason and through the first week which never did get an answer, and even sent some messages simply asking that he tell me where to go if he didn't like it. I considered a second trade with an owner whose strengths and needs matched well with mine--but he's another one who never even responds so I didn't bother sending the offer.
 
how about getting a great deal which involves a future pick.... then the guy claims he didn't realize that he has to pay next years entry fee because he traded away his 1st.... so then your deal is off.

 
I hate when you actually complete a trade after working on it for awhile and then get 100 emails pissing and moaning about how unfair it is. Even if it is "unfair" you have two adults who agreed to it so why complain. If it is collusion then by all means I say blow the mother up, but if it just two guys who have very different opinions about the value of a player then leave it alone.

I also hate trades that are painfully lopsided in my favor because accepting it will only make life hell. I offered a guy Marshawn Lynch, Reggie Brown, Jerious Norwood, and Warrick Dunn for Larry Johnson and Donald Driver. He countered with Warrick Dunn for Larry Johnson straight up. Why would he do taht? I don't know. Why would I ever pass on a deal like that? I wouldn't except for the fact that I'm the commish and know there will be a bunch of #####ing when it shows up on the board. Stuff like that just sucks the fun out of trading.

 
I get tired of owners refusing to trade unless they obviously are getting the better end of the deal.

I had a guy call last week to lift LJ off me and he finally said, "I'll have to go talk to some other owners who are less knowledgeable."

Virtually no trades in my league because everyone is out to make a steal. That said, I did trade Roy Williams/Kevin Jones for Chambers/Reggie Bush a week ago. We'll see . . .

 
I don't think anything in Fantasy Football bothers me more than when I put a trade offer before a league member and they don't have the common courtesy to even acknowledge receipt of the offer let alone respond with an "accept" or "reject" reply. :unsure:
agreed. I find that many times, its fruitless to try to make trades..you have so much more power,if you let them come to you with an offer for one of your guys..I stopped offering deals in my leagues..I mean, in one, I have Peyton and Romo..I've posted something three weeks ago, to the guy who owns the following three QBs: Harrington, Alex Smith, Bulger..never heard a peep out of him..to think the guy wouldn't even respond about Romo or Manning, is comical..not even an answer like 'I hate both of them!'so , if he contacts me now, I'll ask for the Moon in return..other than that, I'm done with trying to make trades..
 
If I don't accept or counter a trade offer, I always let the offer sit, without response. This is my modus operandi.
That flat-out sucks. Honestly, trade activity needs to be encouraged, and this just does the opposite.
The best way to do a deal in my experience, as well as the most fun way, is to pick up the phone and have a dialouge - sometimes over the course of several days or weeks. I love it when I have several discussions going on with multiple owners relating to some of the same players. When someone sends me a trade offer via cbssportsline without having first closed an agreement, or sometimes even without the benefit of any prior discussion at all, they place the burden on me to essentially begin the negotiation process in a response. If you want to approach someone unsolicited to do a trade, you should do some leg-work in advance, preferably by picking up the phone and discussing the deal.
 
Tanner9919 said:
On The Rocks said:
I don't think anything in Fantasy Football bothers me more than when I put a trade offer before a league member and they don't have the common courtesy to even acknowledge receipt of the offer let alone respond with an "accept" or "reject" reply. :bs:
agreed. I find that many times, its fruitless to try to make trades..you have so much more power,if you let them come to you with an offer for one of your guys..I stopped offering deals in my leagues..I mean, in one, I have Peyton and Romo..I've posted something three weeks ago, to the guy who owns the following three QBs: Harrington, Alex Smith, Bulger..never heard a peep out of him..to think the guy wouldn't even respond about Romo or Manning, is comical..not even an answer like 'I hate both of them!'so , if he contacts me now, I'll ask for the Moon in return..other than that, I'm done with trying to make trades..
People are so afraid of getting ripped off that trades in most my leagues have completely stopped. I can understand their mindset at times- it is better that I make no move than to trade for a guy and get 'the short end of the stick'. I have tried to encourage trading in the leagues I have commished - even dropping the trade fee, but over the past 5 years there has been only 3 trades (I was involved in two of them).Some of the more inexperienced players in FF are made to feel very ostracized - this is regrettable since not everyone can spend hours and hours on a fantasy website; as a matter of fact many only use weekly cheatsheet from ESPN, TSN, or others. I know this will come as a shock to many people on this message board but sometimes not ripping someone off is better than doing it.
 
One of my leagues is a relatively solid league, but they never trade either. Never once.

This week I offered Roy Williams and DeShaun Foster for Larry Johnson. I thought it was a fair first offer. Definitely not crazy. Got no response.

The guy has no WR's but will still have pretty decent RB's after the proposed deal. It clearly improves his team.

He's 1-7 (double schedule) through 4 weeks. Guess what buddy, you aren't going to the playoffs anyway. You might as well take a shot and mix it up, Berrian, Welker and Wade aren't gonna get it done.

 
I don't think anything in FF bothers me more than....

. . . the number of injured players.

The league should do something about that . . .

 
One of my leagues is a relatively solid league, but they never trade either. Never once.This week I offered Roy Williams and DeShaun Foster for Larry Johnson. I thought it was a fair first offer. Definitely not crazy. Got no response.The guy has no WR's but will still have pretty decent RB's after the proposed deal. It clearly improves his team. He's 1-7 (double schedule) through 4 weeks. Guess what buddy, you aren't going to the playoffs anyway. You might as well take a shot and mix it up, Berrian, Welker and Wade aren't gonna get it done.
So a guy should make trades because he's out of it.What I hate is people whining about collusion when they are perfectly willing to make trades having the expectation of worsening one of the teams.
 
I've had a deal for Curtis Martin that been sitting on the table for 6 years... Just looking for a little closure! My league commish sent out an e-mail this week talking about this issue. Trades just sit and the other cats get frustrated. To me if you join a league you are offering a 100% commitment to play, period! All aspects from setting your line-up, doing your home-work and pretending you are a real gm (thats the wheel'n and deal'n part). It makes me crazy to have to e-mail or call a league member personally to tell him to look at it. Whats worse is that so many players feel a 1st offer is the last offer. The first offer hopefully will spark further negotiations. Thats half the fun.. Crafting the deal. I feel ya on this one..

 
I think the reason that offers just sit there is because usually with the electronic league management systems, there is no "I have viewed your offer and am mulling it over" option. For example with MFL, you have to accept, decline or counter. what if I am just not sure or want to wait a week to see what plays out? I know it sounds silly, but you are forced to get your league mate's email or call him/her and let them know you are mulling it over, etc. In the old days, they would call you directly or send you an email with a couple of options, etc.

I know I am going to get some "lazy down" responses, but honestly, i think that is why so many offers sit out there. Just my 2 cents.

 
One of my leagues is a relatively solid league, but they never trade either. Never once.This week I offered Roy Williams and DeShaun Foster for Larry Johnson. I thought it was a fair first offer. Definitely not crazy. Got no response.The guy has no WR's but will still have pretty decent RB's after the proposed deal. It clearly improves his team. He's 1-7 (double schedule) through 4 weeks. Guess what buddy, you aren't going to the playoffs anyway. You might as well take a shot and mix it up, Berrian, Welker and Wade aren't gonna get it done.
So a guy should make trades because he's out of it.What I hate is people whining about collusion when they are perfectly willing to make trades having the expectation of worsening one of the teams.
I don't get your response. He's not out of it yet as it's only been 4 weeks. But if he continues down the same path with marginal WR's, he's surely not going to win. It's a re-draft league. If he makes the trade, his RB's decrease a little bit (he still has Ronnie Brown, Jamal Lewis & Foster) but his WR corps improves greatly. This gives him at least a shot at going on a run.Instead, he's probably thinking he can't trade his #1 RB even though he hasn't done much yet. And he'll ride it all the way to a 6-26 record. Yippee, at least you still have Larry Johnson in the Toilet Bowl.As some posters above said, at least email back and say, "I think LJohnson is going to produce and I think Welker will be ok if they tighten up on Moss. Thanks for the offer but I just really want LJ this year." That's cool.
 
... -1 rushing yard for kneeldowns at the end of the halves.

... PI not counting for receiving yards for my WRs.

... Having a great matchup for one of my players, only he bruises his thumb on the first series and is taken out as a precaution. The coach can put in the backup, but since the rosters locked, I can't. He's not playing with 10 men instead of 11 on offense, but I am :mellow:

 
Game time decisions for late games. Don't these NFL coaches know they are just playing a game but we have a business going on here. :mellow:

 
Be careful about leaving those un-answered trade offers out there on the table. If the player you were trying to acquire suddenly gets hurt or tests positive, you'll be surprised how fast they go in & hit "accept". I'm sure there are some pizzed off new Travis Henry owners out there for this very reason.

 
Be careful about leaving those un-answered trade offers out there on the table. If the player you were trying to acquire suddenly gets hurt or tests positive, you'll be surprised how fast they go in & hit "accept". I'm sure there are some pizzed off new Travis Henry owners out there for this very reason.
For an ##### you give some pretty good advice (and I think Redman offered the same tip somewhere). I am taking my Brees for Cutler down before Sunday.
 
Seeing Moss and Burress score every friggin' week when I've got Evans, Walker, Cotchery and Chambers, who haven't scored once yet, despite top yardage and targets.

 
...people #####ing and whining on a message board which is supposed to be used for info on players.

...people who put their team in their sig. NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR TEAM!

 

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