I don't understand Art - Now the ***Official Art Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Here's my newest piece

I like how you have your washing machine emptying into your tub.

That's nice, right?

Actually it is.

I've just been letting mine empty onto the floor and it really hasn't been working for me.

Throw that b itch out a window.

 

[Psychopav]

I'm a big fan of Magritte's The Human Condition. We have a copy of it up in our house, along with a copy of Dali's The Persistence of Memory.

 

[Ilov80s]

Here's my newest piece

I like how you have your washing machine emptying into your tub.

That's nice, right?

Actually it is.

I've just been letting mine empty onto the floor and it really hasn't been working for me.

Throw that b itch out a window.

I don't think I could lift it and if I could, it wouldn't even fit out the window. What is your next great idea officer smarty pants?

 

[El Floppo]

Here's my newest piece

I like how you have your washing machine emptying into your tub.

That's nice, right?

Actually it is.

I've just been letting mine empty onto the floor and it really hasn't been working for me.

Throw that b itch out a window.

I don't think I could lift it and if I could, it wouldn't even fit out the window. What is your next great idea officer smarty pants?

I thought he was talking about your wife

 

[Ilov80s]

Here's my newest piece

I like how you have your washing machine emptying into your tub.

That's nice, right?

Actually it is.

I've just been letting mine empty onto the floor and it really hasn't been working for me.

Throw that b itch out a window.

I don't think I could lift it and if I could, it wouldn't even fit out the window. What is your next great idea officer smarty pants?

I thought he was talking about your wife

So did I.

 

[El Floppo]

 

[parasaurolophus]

Here's my newest piece

"Wipe after spicy burrito"

 

[Ilov80s]

I was just kidding. She is actually actually a young model, sleek and stacked. I know how to push her buttons to get her plenty hot and wet.

 

[El Floppo]

I was just kidding. She is actually actually a young model, sleek and stacked. I know how to push her buttons to get her plenty hot and wet.

brilliantly played this morning, gb

 

[Rohn Jambo]

So which pic do you like more?

1 - This one

or

2 - this one

I vote #2.

That's because you cannot take the truth.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Art is subjective. It is as good or bad as you think it is.

 

[jamny]

Here's my newest piece

"Wipe after spicy burrito"

Damn, was I hammered.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Here's my newest piece

"Wipe after spicy burrito"

Damn, was I hammered.

A lot of piss went into the making of this Andy Warhol.

http://images.marianneboeskygallery.com/www_marianneboeskygallery_com/eb118f97.jpg

 

[wazoo11]

What are some good books, docs on prehistoric art?

 

[jamny]

What are some good books, docs on prehistoric art?

Cave of Forgotten Dreams

 

[Daywalker]

The Starry Night the only painting that sticks with me.  Relaxes me.

 

[Annyong]

What the hell is going on in here?

 

[wazoo11]

What's a good starting place for painting? 

 

[wikkidpissah]

What's a good starting place for painting? 

MoFA, for you i guess. To get paintings, you got to be right in front of them, walk in, back out, middle it, amaze yourself by how perspective is achieved by brush & pigment.

I was a casual art fan - i'll go to museums of anything - til 20 yrs ago. I went to Spain to clear my head after my wife died and was in the cathedral in Toledo when i saw this painting by El Greco. There was a lot to look at but i was fascinated by the see-thru vestment of the priest and how that was achieved and was staring and staring at it when an art lover mistook my idle curiosity for intense study.

"You're really spending time with this", she said.

I wish this was the beginning of a Penthouse letter, but she just told me about the many facets of the work when i confessed my ignorance and how many times she had come to see it and that there was a big show @ the Prado in Madrid for Goya's 250th birthday. I went, was amazed and also saw Velasquez's Las Meninas, which is 400 yrs old but looks like everyone's going to come to life the second i turn away.

And i was hooked. Fortunately, a woman called Sister Wendy made a TV series called The Story of Painting that same yr, which was perfect for me to learn how deep, powerful & complex great works can be. Since, there are few things i like more than spending an hour with a masterwork - whether i know it or not - trying to get all the artist is trying to say. Painting is the most devotional form of art and eavesdropping on a genius's prayer to beauty or sublimity is among the rarest of pleasures. Good luck -

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Art is like Twitter.  It is another form of communication.  The person who created the art/tweet is expressing their thoughts on something they have discovered.

 

[El Floppo]

I dont get art, but I like watching the Banksy docs. The one on hbo was good about doing a new piece all month in NYC.

Would have loved to but 5 or 6 pieces for $60 each. But I didnt like how they made the doc appear as if banksy had nothing to do with it, yet, they knew about the art sale in central park the day before he announced it

Latest banksy piece goes for 1.4mil and shreds itself as soon as final gavel is hit.

Wub

 

[Juxtatarot]

Latest banksy piece goes for 1.4mil and shreds itself as soon as final gavel is hit.

Wub

Banksy is so awesome. Serious 3D chess.

 

[El Floppo]

Banksy is so awesome. Serious 3D chess.

I assume the name is a collaborative, and yeah- always upping his game/commentary. 

 

[Juxtatarot]

I assume the name is a collaborative, 

I never heard/considered that before but I’m far from knowledgeable about art. I assume it couldn’t be that many people because the more the harder it would be to keep quiet.

 

[El Floppo]

I never heard/considered that before but I’m far from knowledgeable about art. I assume it couldn’t be that many people because the more the harder it would be to keep quiet.

It's like some of the aliai in here with shared keys. 

Dunno if that's true about banksy or not. Tbh, never heard it, just made a guess.

 

[Mario Kart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZudVf2PNc

 

[Juxtatarot]

I read that it’s probably worth more now. 

 

[EYLive]

I read that it’s probably worth more now. 

IMO it is. The piece went from a regular image in an normal frame to grafitti art turned high art turned performance art. Now it's got a fascinating story to go with it. And the owner has the difficult task of deciding how to display it.

 

[Da Guru]

Art is like wine..if people think it is very expensive they like it.

 

[Charlie Steiner]

Went to my first ever performance art show, Putin on Ice, in Baltimore. If any MD/Baltimore peeps are reading this, they're doing one last show next Saturday.  If by chance anyone has seen it, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.  FWIW, I don't think of myself as very 'cultured' but it did resonate with me in a couple of ways.

 

[Juxtatarot]

IMO it is. The piece went from a regular image in an normal frame to grafitti art turned high art turned performance art. Now it's got a fascinating story to go with it. And the owner has the difficult task of deciding how to display it.

Put the whole thing in a case?

 

[EYLive]

Art is like wine..if people think it is very expensive they like it.

Not everyone. I also don't like wine cuz I think it tastes nasty.

 

[El Floppo]

There was an apartment for sale in my hood a long time ago that supposedly had a basquiat painting on one of the walls. Place was a dump, and asking too much for what it would normally go for- buy the temptation of the basquiat drove prices up.

I don't know that they could prove provenance, but I had thought if it were mine, I'd cut the entire section of wall out and package that, along with extensive photos of it in situ. It was tempting to try for it; the basquiat on it's own- if proven true- wouldve pretty much paid for the apartment in a sale. Or you'd be stuck with a dumpy apt AND a wannabe basquiat.

 

[Major]

It's like some of the aliai in here with shared keys. 

Dunno if that's true about banksy or not. Tbh, never heard it, just made a guess.

Yeah, it's likely a group of artists working under the Banksy moniker.  When some artists reach a level of success they often outsource a lot of the work to assistants and just stamp their name on it.  I'm fairly certain the Banksy creator is Robert Del Naja of Massive Attack.  He was a great street artist before all the music success.  

 

[Binky The Doormat]

Season 3, ep. 4 "Adam Ruins Everything - Art."  I like these though they are oversimplified and I don't always agree with what he is saying.  This one is pretty good.  

ETA:  it's on netflix.

 

[GroveDiesel]

At the same Sotheby's auction as the Bansky painting this painting sold for over $1M. SpongeBob. A freaking Spongebob painting sold for over $1M.

 

[rockaction]

Yeah, it's likely a group of artists working under the Banksy moniker.  When some artists reach a level of success they often outsource a lot of the work to assistants and just stamp their name on it.  I'm fairly certain the Banksy creator is Robert Del Naja of Massive Attack.  He was a great street artist before all the music success.  

And that's honestly why Gladwell rules. You can tell it's ####.  

 

[boom king]

Went to the Dali Museum in Tampa a couple years ago and did the guided tour. It was pretty cool. 

 

[Ilov80s]

If anyone hasn't seen Exit Through the Gift Shop or Waste Land, I would highly recommend. They are two of the better recet documentaries I have seen and both are about modern art. 

 

[El Floppo]

And that's honestly why Gladwell rules. You can tell it's ####.  

Gladwell or art?

Art is like any commodity- the right people say it's worth something and the rest of the world pays. The nice difference is, you can also just pay because you like the way it looks and not worry about apparent value.

 

[D-Day]

I read that it’s probably worth more now. 

I wonder if there is a setting for it to continue to shred if the artist wants, or if the frame is tampered with.  

 

[El Floppo]

I love the shredding.

But more I think about it... How would that work? Battery powered with a remote control just in case someday it goes to auction and the battery hasn't died or lost connectivity? Or did they mount it to that frame specifically for the auction? It seems a little suspect, at least in relation to the story presented in that YouTube clip above

 

[GroveDiesel]

I love the shredding.

But more I think about it... How would that work? Battery powered with a remote control just in case someday it goes to auction and the battery hasn't died or lost connectivity? Or did they mount it to that frame specifically for the auction? It seems a little suspect, at least in relation to the story presented in that YouTube clip above

Bansky's officially group named Pest Control that "certifies" his work certified it just within the last week or two I read. Presumably that's when they placed the batteries in. They could have even had lighting installed in the frame and claimed the batteries were required for the lighting.

WhatI don't get though, is how nobody would have questioned the slot on the bottom of the frame that obviously would have had to have been there the entire time.

 

[El Floppo]

Bansky's officially group named Pest Control that "certifies" his work certified it just within the last week or two I read. Presumably that's when they placed the batteries in. They could have even had lighting installed in the frame and claimed the batteries were required for the lighting.

WhatI don't get though, is how nobody would have questioned the slot on the bottom of the frame that obviously would have had to have been there the entire time.

fwiw- article in the NYTimes....

By Scott Reyburn

Oct. 7, 2018

Everybody’s talking about it. How did the world’s most famous street artist manage to shred — or rather half shred — one of his iconic “Girl With Balloon” paintings moments after it had sold for $1.4 million at auction?

Acoris Andipa, an art dealer specializing in Banksy, based in the Knightsbridge district of London, is among the many people asking that question after Friday’s sensational goings-on at Sotheby’s.

“It was spectacularly staged,” said Mr. Andipa. “What isn’t clear is whether Sotheby’s was in on it.”

The identities of the buyer and underbidder, both of whom were bidding anonymously by telephone, remain undisclosed. Sotheby’s said in an emailed statement on Sunday that the successful buyer was “a private client, who was as surprised as we were, and with whom we’re still in discussions.”

The auction house added: “We had no prior knowledge of this event and were not in any way involved.”

The ever-elusive, ever-inventive Banksy has once again made a fool of the art world, and captivated millions. But has the joke itself slightly self-destructed? Banksy’s remotely shredded “Girl With Balloon” was meant to poke fun at the excesses of the auction market. Yet thanks to the huge amount of publicity generated by this ingenious prank, his prices look set to soar even higher.

“It was a brilliant PR stunt,” said Offer Waterman, a dealer in 20th-century British art, who attended Sotheby’s Friday night contemporary art auction but left before the sale of the Banksy. “It’s going to elevate his prices.”

Mr. Waterman is among those who think the Banksy sold at Sotheby’s has increased in value post-shredding. “It’s become worth more as a conceptual moment than as a work of art itself,” said Mr. Waterman, who believes that Sotheby’s had no knowledge of the stunt. “They didn’t know. There was no reason for them to know.”

Yet Mr. Andipa, who has sold about 15 other painted versions of Banksy’s “Girl With Balloon,” said he observed several oddities about the painting’s sale that made him wonder whether Sotheby’s had an inkling. (The dealer said that at least two of his clients had intended to bid on the painting, but he does not know if one became the buyer or underbidder.)

Mr. Andipa said that he viewed the painting at the pre-auction exhibition and pointed out to Sotheby’s staff members what he termed the “disproportionate” thickness of the frame (concealing the shredding device). How did the auction house respond to that observation?

“They didn’t say anything at all,” said Mr. Andipa. “Conversations were as usual.”

“The people I spoke to didn’t give any evidence of knowing something,” he added. “If the upper management knew, I can’t speculate.”

Banksy’s painting “Girl With Balloon” was shredded just after selling at Sotheby’s in London on Friday. “It’s become worth more as a conceptual moment,” one art dealer said of the work.CreditBanksy, via Instagram

Mr. Andipa was also perplexed by the fact that this valuable painting, which he had never seen before, was tucked away on a wall near the back entrance of Sotheby’s during the pre-auction view.

“It was next to the catering,” said Mr. Andipa. “Access was challenging.” During the auction itself, the painting was hung next to the Sotheby’s staff members who take telephone bids, a favored subject for auction-house publicity shots.

In addition, Mr. Andipa was surprised — as were many others — by a $1.4 million Banksy being the 67th and last lot of the auction. By that point, many in the audience would have left the salesroom for dinner. “The running order of the sale was odd,” Mr. Andipa said.

Back in 2004, a stenciled image of a young girl releasing a red heart-shaped balloon appeared on a wall on London’s South Bank. It has become one of Banksy’s most celebrated and coveted creations, the stencil being repeated in an edition of 150 prints and 25 numbered paintings, as well as an unknown number of unique spray paintings in different sizes with variations, of which Sotheby’s $1.4 million painting was one.

That 40-inch-high example, “acquired directly from the artist by the present owner in 2006,” according to the Sotheby’s catalog, set a new auction high for a work solely created by Banksy. One of the smaller, 20-inch-high edition paintings of “Girl With Balloon” sold in March for 344,750 pounds, or about $480,000, at Bonhams in London, according to the Artnet Price Database. Mr. Andipa said that back in 2006 he was selling these smaller edition paintings for £30,000, or about $55,000 at the time.

There was also something strange about the video Banksy posted on Saturday on his Instagram page. Drawing 6.3 million views by Sunday morning, the video purported to show the artist secretly building a shredder into the painting “a few years ago.”

If that were the case, wouldn’t the battery in the shredder have had to have been replaced at some point? This, in turn, poses the question: Was Banksy himself the owner who entered this stenciled painting, which may or may not have been made and framed “years ago,” into the sale? Sotheby’s, like all international auction houses, does not reveal the identity of its sellers, unless specifically requested.

And what about the identity of the man in the salesroom who remotely activated the shredding device? Could he have been the elusive “graffiti guerrilla” himself?

In 2008, the British newspaper The Mail on Sunday identified Banksy as Robin Gunningham, a former private schoolboy from the Bristol area of western England. On Saturday, the Daily Mail noted the similarity between the person identified as Mr. Gunningham 10 years ago and a man taking a cell-phone video in the Sotheby’s salesroom on Friday. Another man, who was seen activating a remote-control mechanism, was pictured in a post on the private Instagram page of Caroline Lang, chairwoman of Sotheby’s Switzerland. He, too, was identified as Banksy, by Ms. Lang.

“Banksy is no stranger to Sotheby’s New Bond Street,” said Alex Branczik, the auction house’s head of contemporary art in Europe, in an email. “He stenciled a ‘gangsta rat’ on the gallery wall during the preview of Damien Hirst’s Pharmacy sale 14 years ago, almost to the day.”

Those who witnessed the incident said that afterward, Sotheby’s security staff escorted a noisily protesting man off the premises.

Sotheby’s declined to comment on exchanges between the individual and its security staff, and on whether the company has any plans to press charges.

The prank was “a brilliant comment on the art market,” said Mr. Andipa, who added that if he were the buyer, he would leave the painting in semi-shredded condition. “It‘s a part of art history.”

 

[Foosball God]

Latest banksy piece goes for 1.4mil and shreds itself as soon as final gavel is hit.

Wub

I don't understand art, but I do appreciate great schtick.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Do you think the painting was supposed to shred the entire way but malfunctioned?

 

[EYLive]

Do you think the painting was supposed to shred the entire way but malfunctioned?

Personally, I think it was designed to shred half-way. With the amount of planning and secrecy that goes into a stunt like that, I doubt they didn't configure the shredder to execute exactly as it did.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Nice new artwork by Banksy: https://www.cnn.com/style/article/banksy-port-talbot-wales-gbr-scli/index.html

 

[El Floppo]

New street art... storefronts for mice.

Wish something similar was done in NYC...although it would like get covered in graffiti or stolen.

 

[El Floppo]

Got a link? That one just goes here.

Thanks for letting me know...here. and fixing in the op as well.