I know were tired of T.O. but............ (1 Viewer)

[BigTex]

O.K. NOONE is as tired of Elderado talk as I. But I'm listening to ESPN radio (local) and they are reporting that Elderado is say HE may not be ready til week two. He also said HE'LL let the coaching staff know when HE'S ready.



After drafting Elderado in the 3rd, I know feel the need to repent.

 

[BigRed]

Tired of Owens? ??? What madness is that?

GB another Owens thread, I was getting the DTs. Keep er bumped

 

[BigTex]

He's not answering any questions on PK's comments.

 

[zadok]

HE may not be ready til week two. He also said HE'LL let the coaching staff know when HE'S ready

 

[BigTex]

Tired of Owens? ??? What madness is that?GB another Owens thread, I was getting the DTs. Keep er bumped

 

[BigTex]

He just said Romo was a couple of quarts low (tongue and cheeck). But says he likes him and he's making good progress.

 

[zadok]

O.K. NOONE is as tired of Elderado talk as I. But I'm listening to ESPN radio (local) and they are reporting that Elderado is say HE may not be ready til week two. He also said HE'LL let the coaching staff know when HE'S ready. After drafting Elderado in the 3rd, I know feel the need to repent.

Do you give any credence to the "can't cut a guy when he's injured" but "he will be owed his entire signing bonus after week 1" theory?

 

[Urinal Mint]

Might as well post the Drew Henson news in here since the thread dedicated to it was deleted.

Henson to be cut or traded. That is all.

 

[ellisonb11]

yes!! jags will get it done if the boys dont have TO!

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Geez, is this guy for real? What a clown. I have been putting as much negative press on our league website lately, in attempt to land Owens late 3rd. However, I'm not sure I want him anymore.

Guy is a beast when healthy, or not causing trouble...but those days seem numbered.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

yes!! jags will get it done if the boys dont have TO!

Good info here. :Jagsfan:

 

[DoubleG]

Geez, is this guy for real? What a clown. I have been putting as much negative press on our league website lately, in attempt to land Owens late 3rd. However, I'm not sure I want him anymore. Guy is a beast when healthy, or not causing trouble...but those days seem numbered.

Yes, I guess, technically, zero is a number.

 

[BigTex]

O.K. NOONE is as tired of Elderado talk as I. But I'm listening to ESPN radio (local) and they are reporting that Elderado is say HE may not be ready til week two. He also said HE'LL let the coaching staff know when HE'S ready. After drafting Elderado in the 3rd, I know feel the need to repent.

Do you give any credence to the "can't cut a guy when he's injured" but "he will be owed his entire signing bonus after week 1" theory?

I'd like to believe that Jerry is smart enough to have protected himself, if they cut him today it'll be three months too late. With me, it's not the injury, it's the attitude.

 

[redman]

He just said Romo was a couple of quarts low (tongue and cheeck). But says he likes him and he's making good progress.

I'd rather not know how Bill leared that.

 

[BigTex]

He just said Romo was a couple of quarts low (tongue and cheeck). But says he likes him and he's making good progress.

I'd rather not know how Bill leared that.

I hear you redman.

 

[nittanylion]

O.K. NOONE is as tired of Elderado talk as I. But I'm listening to ESPN radio (local) and they are reporting that Elderado is say HE may not be ready til week two. He also said HE'LL let the coaching staff know when HE'S ready.



After drafting Elderado in the 3rd, I know feel the need to repent.

Elderado: just out of curiosity, what means this?I own a vintage Cadillac Eldorado, circa 1976 'The Grey Ghost'...

El Dorado = 'The Gilded One': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Dorado

I've never heard anyone else refer to T.O. in this manner. Just curious...

 

[Wu-banger]

O.K. NOONE is as tired of Elderado talk as I. But I'm listening to ESPN radio (local) and they are reporting that Elderado is say HE may not be ready til week two. He also said HE'LL let the coaching staff know when HE'S ready.



After drafting Elderado in the 3rd, I know feel the need to repent.

Elderado: just out of curiosity, what means this?I own a vintage Cadillac Eldorado, circa 1976 'The Grey Ghost'...

El Dorado = 'The Gilded One': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Dorado

I've never heard anyone else refer to T.O. in this manner. Just curious...

Its his middle name...

 

[Angry Beavers]

regretting drafting TO in 2 of 2 drafts thus far

 

[ttiger72]

Thought for sure he would toe the line somewhat this year since it's his last chance to salvage something more than leauge minimum for the rest of his career. Big time regrets now.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

O.K. NOONE is as tired of Elderado talk as I. But I'm listening to ESPN radio (local) and they are reporting that Elderado is say HE may not be ready til week two. He also said HE'LL let the coaching staff know when HE'S ready.



After drafting Elderado in the 3rd, I know feel the need to repent.

Elderado: just out of curiosity, what means this?I own a vintage Cadillac Eldorado, circa 1976 'The Grey Ghost'...

El Dorado = 'The Gilded One': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Dorado

I've never heard anyone else refer to T.O. in this manner. Just curious...

Its his middle name...

Actually, Ive heard it was blowkins. Just a messenger. Terell Owens

 

[Angry Beavers]

Per Rotoworld this afternoon:

A second MRI on Terrell Owens' hamstring came up negative.

He's not practicing Wednesday. Perhaps more interesting, Owens says he probably wouldn't be able to play in a regular season if there was one this week.

If the MRI is negative, why isn't he practicing?

 

[Banger]

Per Rotoworld this afternoon:A second MRI on Terrell Owens' hamstring came up negative.He's not practicing Wednesday. Perhaps more interesting, Owens says he probably wouldn't be able to play in a regular season if there was one this week.If the MRI is negative, why isn't he practicing?

Portis's MRI is negative, what's his problem?

 

[suchislife]

Per Rotoworld this afternoon:

A second MRI on Terrell Owens' hamstring came up negative.

He's not practicing Wednesday. Perhaps more interesting, Owens says he probably wouldn't be able to play in a regular season if there was one this week.

If the MRI is negative, why isn't he practicing?

IIRC, the Cowboys did an MRI of their own weeks ago after TO's personal medical staff found an "injury" so severe he couldn't risk practicing with his team mates. That MRI also showed no damage. I don't think there's been anything to support his claim of injury other than HIS medical ppl. "I love me some me".

 

[Ridgelake]

Its interesting comparing TO's hamstring saga to that of Hines Ward and Steve Smith. There are many, many similarities between the three in terms of missed time, an abreviated comeback stalled by a flare-up, etc. Whats way, way different is the amount of attention paid to one versus the other two.

 

[Leviathan]

Its interesting comparing TO's hamstring saga to that of Hines Ward and Steve Smith. There are many, many similarities between the three in terms of missed time, an abreviated comeback stalled by a flare-up, etc. Whats way, way different is the amount of attention paid to one versus the other two.

I'm thinking it might be the Tour de France getup, but that's just me.

 

[The Finist]

Its interesting comparing TO's hamstring saga to that of Hines Ward and Steve Smith. There are many, many similarities between the three in terms of missed time, an abreviated comeback stalled by a flare-up, etc. Whats way, way different is the amount of attention paid to one versus the other two.

very

 

[theToes]

Its interesting comparing TO's hamstring saga to that of Hines Ward and Steve Smith. There are many, many similarities between the three in terms of missed time, an abreviated comeback stalled by a flare-up, etc. Whats way, way different is the amount of attention paid to one versus the other two.

It may have something to do with bringing in his own medical staff and the Michael Jackson chamber and getting in front of a microphone every chance he has saying he'll play when he is ready.Just maybe

 

[Dolfan34]

Its interesting comparing TO's hamstring saga to that of Hines Ward and Steve Smith. There are many, many similarities between the three in terms of missed time, an abreviated comeback stalled by a flare-up, etc. Whats way, way different is the amount of attention paid to one versus the other two.

the fact that the owner is publically calling terrell out saying that owens needs to learn how to play at 81% may not help matters. or whatever percentage the number was. the coaching staff and ownership of the steelers are not publically calling out hines ward for not practicing or the same with the panthers and steve smith. plus the fact that owens brings attention to himself.

 

[Big Score]

Its interesting comparing TO's hamstring saga to that of Hines Ward and Steve Smith. There are many, many similarities between the three in terms of missed time, an abreviated comeback stalled by a flare-up, etc. Whats way, way different is the amount of attention paid to one versus the other two.

The difference between the three is that TO has actively sought to bring the spot light on himself for years now, whereas Ward & Smith haven't.You reap what you sow.

 

[yellowdog]

Its interesting comparing TO's hamstring saga to that of Hines Ward and Steve Smith. There are many, many similarities between the three in terms of missed time, an abreviated comeback stalled by a flare-up, etc. Whats way, way different is the amount of attention paid to one versus the other two.

The difference between the three is that TO has actively sought to bring the spot light on himself for years now, whereas Ward & Smith haven't.You reap what you sow.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

I'd like to believe that Jerry is smart enough to have protected himself, if they cut him today it'll be three months too late. With me, it's not the injury, it's the attitude.

Next question!

 

[madviking10]

In a dynasty league that I participate in I just traded FOR TO.

Adding him to a receiving corp that now includes Moss, TO, Smith, Fitzgerald, Williamson and Burleson.

(10 teamer for the inevitable smart ### comments.)

I gave up Winslow and will have to be ok with Gates, Gonzalez and Franks as my TE's.

IMHO it's time to BUY LOW for some TO !!!!!

 

[Urinal Mint]

I hope he sits out the rest of training camp. I want him healthy on Sept. 10 when it starts counting for real.

 

[suchislife]

I hope he sits out the rest of training camp. I want him healthy on Sept. 10 when it starts counting for real.

Just out of curiosity - how much of the playbook will he be comfortable with and how's his timing with Bledsoe going to be? Will TO just draw coverage away from Glenn (who really looks to be the value pick from the Dallas WRs, imo)?We really can't expect Owens to just step onto the field and put up his usual stats, can we?

 

[Ridgelake]

Anyone expecting typical TO stats this year will be sadly mistaken, hamstring or no hamstring.

Dallas will spread the ball around. They will run 500+ times. They most definitely won't be throwing 70% of the time like Philly did.

Then, consider that Bledsoe knows Glenn and Witten so darn well.

Can anyone seriously think that TO would put up huge numbers in Dallas? Even before the hamstring?

Think about it.

Edit: i'll also add that in Parcells' press conference announcing the signing, or thereabouts, that Tuna specifically talked to TO about expectations. Tuna made it very clear to TO that he won't be getting 100 balls per year in this offense. And, according to Tuna, TO understood that was going to be the case.

 

[wannabee]

Anyone expecting typical TO stats this year will be sadly mistaken, hamstring or no hamstring. Dallas will spread the ball around. They will run 500+ times. They most definitely won't be throwing 70% of the time like Philly did.Then, consider that Bledsoe knows Glenn and Witten so darn well. Can anyone seriously think that TO would put up huge numbers in Dallas? Even before the hamstring?Think about it.

I concur with this thought. Last year, in TO's 7 games he played, TO was targetted 92 times. That works out to 13 targets per game. This is why TO had that awesome points per game average last year.For reference, Keyshawn was the leaging pass target in 2005 for the Cowboys. But, he averaged 7.6 targets a game. Glenn had 7.34 targets a game over 16 games. Something has to give. TO, for those 7 games was targeted almost as many times a game as Keyshawn and Glenn combined.

 

[Urinal Mint]

He's been doing this NFL thing for 10 years. I think he knows a thing or two about playing WR.

I hope he sits out the rest of training camp. I want him healthy on Sept. 10 when it starts counting for real.

Just out of curiosity - how much of the playbook will he be comfortable with and how's his timing with Bledsoe going to be? Will TO just draw coverage away from Glenn (who really looks to be the value pick from the Dallas WRs, imo)?We really can't expect Owens to just step onto the field and put up his usual stats, can we?

 

[Ridgelake]

Urinal Mint, the only difference this year versus other years is the this is TO's first outside of the West Coast Offense. Before, he knew all of the patterns and terminology and philosophy. Dallas' offense is different, and as such, he'll have some adjustment.

Now, thats not to say that he can't run the patterns. Its just taht they may be a bit different from what he's done for the last 10 years.

 

[perry147]

Urinal Mint, the only difference this year versus other years is the this is TO's first outside of the West Coast Offense. Before, he knew all of the patterns and terminology and philosophy. Dallas' offense is different, and as such, he'll have some adjustment.Now, thats not to say that he can't run the patterns. Its just taht they may be a bit different from what he's done for the last 10 years.

Timing is very important in the NFL between a QB and a WR.

 

[BigTex]

I hope he sits out the rest of training camp. I want him healthy on Sept. 10 when it starts counting for real.

Just out of curiosity - how much of the playbook will he be comfortable with and how's his timing with Bledsoe going to be? Will TO just draw coverage away from Glenn (who really looks to be the value pick from the Dallas WRs, imo)?We really can't expect Owens to just step onto the field and put up his usual stats, can we?

No, and his timing with Bledsoe has been off.......................Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy Offfffffffff!

 

[suchislife]

I hope he sits out the rest of training camp. I want him healthy on Sept. 10 when it starts counting for real.

Just out of curiosity - how much of the playbook will he be comfortable with and how's his timing with Bledsoe going to be? Will TO just draw coverage away from Glenn (who really looks to be the value pick from the Dallas WRs, imo)?We really can't expect Owens to just step onto the field and put up his usual stats, can we?

No, and his timing with Bledsoe has been off.......................Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy Offfffffffff!

If Owens doesn't play in this weekend's game, that leaves only one pre-season game. Not sure about the Cowboys specifically, but historically the starters only make a cameo appearence in the final pre-season game. Even if Owens plays all of the final game (very unlikely), Bledsoe probably won't. That means Owens and Bledsoe will go into the season with next to zilth for chemistry. Ouch.TO's ADP =15, Glenn's ADP =95 Anyone else think TGlenn is the real value here?

 

[Ozymandias]

In a dynasty league that I participate in I just traded FOR TO.Adding him to a receiving corp that now includes Moss, TO, Smith, Fitzgerald, Williamson and Burleson.(10 teamer for the inevitable smart ### comments.)I gave up Winslow and will have to be ok with Gates, Gonzalez and Franks as my TE's. IMHO it's time to BUY LOW for some TO !!!!!

I guess your real problem is deciding whether to start Manning, Brady or Hasselbeck.

 

[TheFanatic]

In a dynasty league that I participate in I just traded FOR TO.Adding him to a receiving corp that now includes Moss, TO, Smith, Fitzgerald, Williamson and Burleson.(10 teamer for the inevitable smart ### comments.)I gave up Winslow and will have to be ok with Gates, Gonzalez and Franks as my TE's. IMHO it's time to BUY LOW for some TO !!!!!

I guess your real problem is deciding whether to start Manning, Brady or Hasselbeck.

But his RB's are Fred Lane, Emmitt Smith, and JJ Arrington.....

 

[TheFanatic]

Per Rotoworld this afternoon:

A second MRI on Terrell Owens' hamstring came up negative.

He's not practicing Wednesday. Perhaps more interesting, Owens says he probably wouldn't be able to play in a regular season if there was one this week.

If the MRI is negative, why isn't he practicing?

IIRC, the Cowboys did an MRI of their own weeks ago after TO's personal medical staff found an "injury" so severe he couldn't risk practicing with his team mates. That MRI also showed no damage. I don't think there's been anything to support his claim of injury other than HIS medical ppl. "I love me some me".

 

[Raiders Fan]

I hope he sits out the rest of training camp. I want him healthy on Sept. 10 when it starts counting for real.

Just out of curiosity - how much of the playbook will he be comfortable with and how's his timing with Bledsoe going to be? Will TO just draw coverage away from Glenn (who really looks to be the value pick from the Dallas WRs, imo)?We really can't expect Owens to just step onto the field and put up his usual stats, can we?

No, and his timing with Bledsoe has been off.......................Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy Offfffffffff!

If Owens doesn't play in this weekend's game, that leaves only one pre-season game. Not sure about the Cowboys specifically, but historically the starters only make a cameo appearence in the final pre-season game. Even if Owens plays all of the final game (very unlikely), Bledsoe probably won't. That means Owens and Bledsoe will go into the season with next to zilth for chemistry. Ouch.TO's ADP =15, Glenn's ADP =95 Anyone else think TGlenn is the real value here?

Well lets see.. I play in a 14 team league keeper. It is typical Fanball.. I traded Owens prior to draft for a 1st round pick the #2 overall.. I was hoping Bush slipped but he didn't so i took JJ, but it gets better.. With th 56th pick I took Glenn. The WR's that went before him.. Burleson, Porter, Muhammad. So lets see I got JJ and I got Glenn. for Owens.. Talk about a steal.. I couldn't keep Owens any way as I rather have Harrison..

 

[cosjobs]

I hate TO.

I Love the Cowboys.

I hated to see Dallas sign him, but since we now have the burden I would wish to see him do well. IMO, the best thing is to rest the hammy until he feels comfortable on it. The only thing more frustrating and lingering than a hammy is a groin. I feel confident he can run his routes and get his timing down quickly; what concerns me much more is a nagging injury.

If it wasn't really bothering him, I cannot see how he would be making a deaql of it. He hasn't been here long enough to hate everyone and cop an attitude has he? I think he wants to play and is in the best position to know when his body is ready.

I still wish Dallas had never signed him, tho.

 

[cowboyz]

10 min mark. i encourage anyone wanting to understand how BP feels about TO listen for themselves.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia_ce...350798D02CC3614

 

[Ozymandias]

10 min mark. i encourage anyone wanting to understand how BP feels about TO listen for themselves.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia_ce...350798D02CC3614

I watched the whole interview. Parcells knows his stuff, and I came away impressed.

 

[madviking10]

In a dynasty league that I participate in I just traded FOR TO.Adding him to a receiving corp that now includes Moss, TO, Smith, Fitzgerald, Williamson and Burleson.(10 teamer for the inevitable smart ### comments.)I gave up Winslow and will have to be ok with Gates, Gonzalez and Franks as my TE's. IMHO it's time to BUY LOW for some TO !!!!!

I guess your real problem is deciding whether to start Manning, Brady or Hasselbeck.

Palmer, Culpepper, B. Johnson or T JacksonBad knees and an old man with a raw rookie for good measure.

 

[madviking10]

In a dynasty league that I participate in I just traded FOR TO.Adding him to a receiving corp that now includes Moss, TO, Smith, Fitzgerald, Williamson and Burleson.(10 teamer for the inevitable smart ### comments.)I gave up Winslow and will have to be ok with Gates, Gonzalez and Franks as my TE's. IMHO it's time to BUY LOW for some TO !!!!!

I guess your real problem is deciding whether to start Manning, Brady or Hasselbeck.

But his RB's are Fred Lane, Emmitt Smith, and JJ Arrington.....

LJ, Portis, Maroney, C. Brown, Benson or Betts.I get the feeling you smart azzes are calling me a liar.