this.no chance for the kids to go to a top college. will have issues not having long term friends they developed a deep bond with, as they now have tons of rv park acquaintances and facebook friends.Do you feel bad youre ruining your children's lives?
^i also love how hiking through the grand canyon is some irreplacable life experience that can only be done if you sell everything on craigs list and live in an rv.Why is the default assumption of most posters in this thread that if a kid isn't home schooled and living in an RV then he probably just plays Xbox all day?
Yeah, because everyone knows there's only one successful method of raising children, and if you don't follow it to the letter, they're destined to become meth addicted gay prostitutes or work at Walmart for the rest of their lives.this.no chance for the kids to go to a top college. will have issues not having long term friends they developed a deep bond with, as they now have tons of rv park acquaintances and facebook friends.Do you feel bad youre ruining your children's lives?
the upsides are what i experienced in a normal summer vacation, so i really dont get how this is getting the kids some crazy exposure to something that others dont.
hey at least you have those soundproof accordion doors to stop the kids from hearing you have sex.
Oh yeah because that's what everyone is saying.Yeah, because everyone knows there's only one successful method of raising children, and if you don't follow it to the letter, they're destined to become meth addicted gay prostitutes or work at Walmart for the rest of their lives.this.no chance for the kids to go to a top college. will have issues not having long term friends they developed a deep bond with, as they now have tons of rv park acquaintances and facebook friends.Do you feel bad youre ruining your children's lives?
the upsides are what i experienced in a normal summer vacation, so i really dont get how this is getting the kids some crazy exposure to something that others dont.
hey at least you have those soundproof accordion doors to stop the kids from hearing you have sex.
does this put his kids in a better or worse position to succeed in life?Yeah, because everyone knows there's only one successful method of raising children, and if you don't follow it to the letter, they're destined to become meth addicted gay prostitutes or work at Walmart for the rest of their lives.this.no chance for the kids to go to a top college. will have issues not having long term friends they developed a deep bond with, as they now have tons of rv park acquaintances and facebook friends.Do you feel bad youre ruining your children's lives?
the upsides are what i experienced in a normal summer vacation, so i really dont get how this is getting the kids some crazy exposure to something that others dont.
hey at least you have those soundproof accordion doors to stop the kids from hearing you have sex.
"Why won't you people just answer the questions that have already been answered?!?!?"Why not just answer them if you have an answer? How hard do I have to look? I saw a bunch of pictures and a bunch of floorplans that show what I described.Read further. And look further on layout pictures--they were several different models.He's also talking about going back off into the desert next month. Still doesn't strike me as all that clear. But OK, so I'll take your word for it.Again, it's all in the thread if you care to read. They've been out less than two years and he is ending it for his oldest kid to settle in and find a high school to start next year. That's all quite well discussed and clear. So the "suggestion that they are stopping soon" is right there.And to this point, while we're wasting our innernets dissecting text, I still don't know if he's told us how long he's planned on doing this. Two years doesn't seem like a long time I suppose, but he hasn't ended the trip. They're still out doing it and I didn't see any suggestion they are stopping soon.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
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I mean this kindly, but it would help to read the thread first before jumping in with the judgmental stuff. Once you have, if you wish to be judgmental, at least you'd be doing it on the basis of some knowledge and information.
Sorry if you don't agree with my questions. People post things here, and they get reactions from other people here. That's what we do. He asked for questions, I raised some.
I don't have a problem with your questions. Just trying to help answer them since you didn't read the thread.
You don't know the answer to that definitively any more than anyone else here. WTF, you don't even know this guy or his kids and you're qualified to say a couple years on the road equals an automatic disadvantage in life? How amazingly ignorant.does this put his kids in a better or worse position to succeed in life?Yeah, because everyone knows there's only one successful method of raising children, and if you don't follow it to the letter, they're destined to become meth addicted gay prostitutes or work at Walmart for the rest of their lives.this.no chance for the kids to go to a top college. will have issues not having long term friends they developed a deep bond with, as they now have tons of rv park acquaintances and facebook friends.Do you feel bad youre ruining your children's lives?
the upsides are what i experienced in a normal summer vacation, so i really dont get how this is getting the kids some crazy exposure to something that others dont.
hey at least you have those soundproof accordion doors to stop the kids from hearing you have sex.
The question I asked of how much longer they'll be on the road still isn't answered. I'm also not certain the question of whether they sleep in the same room or not is answered, though I have seen a few different floorplans, and if I assume the right floorplan and assume some walls here and there, I can come up with a two or three-room scenario."Why won't you people just answer the questions that have already been answered?!?!?"Why not just answer them if you have an answer? How hard do I have to look? I saw a bunch of pictures and a bunch of floorplans that show what I described.Read further. And look further on layout pictures--they were several different models.He's also talking about going back off into the desert next month. Still doesn't strike me as all that clear. But OK, so I'll take your word for it.Again, it's all in the thread if you care to read. They've been out less than two years and he is ending it for his oldest kid to settle in and find a high school to start next year. That's all quite well discussed and clear. So the "suggestion that they are stopping soon" is right there.And to this point, while we're wasting our innernets dissecting text, I still don't know if he's told us how long he's planned on doing this. Two years doesn't seem like a long time I suppose, but he hasn't ended the trip. They're still out doing it and I didn't see any suggestion they are stopping soon.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
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I mean this kindly, but it would help to read the thread first before jumping in with the judgmental stuff. Once you have, if you wish to be judgmental, at least you'd be doing it on the basis of some knowledge and information.
Sorry if you don't agree with my questions. People post things here, and they get reactions from other people here. That's what we do. He asked for questions, I raised some.
I don't have a problem with your questions. Just trying to help answer them since you didn't read the thread.
I know you're a busy guy and all, what with lunches and Xmas lights and all, but I think reading maybe one page of a thread before jumping in with both feet might be a better course next time.
Both questions have been answered.The question I asked of how much longer they'll be on the road still isn't answered. I'm also not certain the question of whether they sleep in the same room or not is answered, though I have seen a few different floorplans, and if I assume the right floorplan and assume some walls here and there, I can come up with a two or three-room scenario."Why won't you people just answer the questions that have already been answered?!?!?"Why not just answer them if you have an answer? How hard do I have to look? I saw a bunch of pictures and a bunch of floorplans that show what I described.Read further. And look further on layout pictures--they were several different models.He's also talking about going back off into the desert next month. Still doesn't strike me as all that clear. But OK, so I'll take your word for it.Again, it's all in the thread if you care to read. They've been out less than two years and he is ending it for his oldest kid to settle in and find a high school to start next year. That's all quite well discussed and clear. So the "suggestion that they are stopping soon" is right there.And to this point, while we're wasting our innernets dissecting text, I still don't know if he's told us how long he's planned on doing this. Two years doesn't seem like a long time I suppose, but he hasn't ended the trip. They're still out doing it and I didn't see any suggestion they are stopping soon.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
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I mean this kindly, but it would help to read the thread first before jumping in with the judgmental stuff. Once you have, if you wish to be judgmental, at least you'd be doing it on the basis of some knowledge and information.
Sorry if you don't agree with my questions. People post things here, and they get reactions from other people here. That's what we do. He asked for questions, I raised some.
I don't have a problem with your questions. Just trying to help answer them since you didn't read the thread.
I know you're a busy guy and all, what with lunches and Xmas lights and all, but I think reading maybe one page of a thread before jumping in with both feet might be a better course next time.
I think you've scared Lombardi away.The question I asked of how much longer they'll be on the road still isn't answered. I'm also not certain the question of whether they sleep in the same room or not is answered, though I have seen a few different floorplans, and if I assume the right floorplan and assume some walls here and there, I can come up with a two or three-room scenario.
He's asking legitimate questions.You don't know the answer to that definitively any more than anyone else here. WTF, you don't even know this guy or his kids and you're qualified to say a couple years on the road equals an automatic disadvantage in life? How amazingly ignorant.does this put his kids in a better or worse position to succeed in life?Yeah, because everyone knows there's only one successful method of raising children, and if you don't follow it to the letter, they're destined to become meth addicted gay prostitutes or work at Walmart for the rest of their lives.this.no chance for the kids to go to a top college. will have issues not having long term friends they developed a deep bond with, as they now have tons of rv park acquaintances and facebook friends.Do you feel bad youre ruining your children's lives?
the upsides are what i experienced in a normal summer vacation, so i really dont get how this is getting the kids some crazy exposure to something that others dont.
hey at least you have those soundproof accordion doors to stop the kids from hearing you have sex.
Oh. Ok.Both questions have been answered.The question I asked of how much longer they'll be on the road still isn't answered. I'm also not certain the question of whether they sleep in the same room or not is answered, though I have seen a few different floorplans, and if I assume the right floorplan and assume some walls here and there, I can come up with a two or three-room scenario."Why won't you people just answer the questions that have already been answered?!?!?"Why not just answer them if you have an answer? How hard do I have to look? I saw a bunch of pictures and a bunch of floorplans that show what I described.Read further. And look further on layout pictures--they were several different models.He's also talking about going back off into the desert next month. Still doesn't strike me as all that clear. But OK, so I'll take your word for it.Again, it's all in the thread if you care to read. They've been out less than two years and he is ending it for his oldest kid to settle in and find a high school to start next year. That's all quite well discussed and clear. So the "suggestion that they are stopping soon" is right there.And to this point, while we're wasting our innernets dissecting text, I still don't know if he's told us how long he's planned on doing this. Two years doesn't seem like a long time I suppose, but he hasn't ended the trip. They're still out doing it and I didn't see any suggestion they are stopping soon.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
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I mean this kindly, but it would help to read the thread first before jumping in with the judgmental stuff. Once you have, if you wish to be judgmental, at least you'd be doing it on the basis of some knowledge and information.
Sorry if you don't agree with my questions. People post things here, and they get reactions from other people here. That's what we do. He asked for questions, I raised some.
I don't have a problem with your questions. Just trying to help answer them since you didn't read the thread.
I know you're a busy guy and all, what with lunches and Xmas lights and all, but I think reading maybe one page of a thread before jumping in with both feet might be a better course next time.
its not ignorant, its life. you dont get a do over. you get to prepare your kids for college and to succeed in life once. thats it.You don't know the answer to that definitively any more than anyone else here. WTF, you don't even know this guy or his kids and you're qualified to say a couple years on the road equals an automatic disadvantage in life? How amazingly ignorant.does this put his kids in a better or worse position to succeed in life?Yeah, because everyone knows there's only one successful method of raising children, and if you don't follow it to the letter, they're destined to become meth addicted gay prostitutes or work at Walmart for the rest of their lives.this.no chance for the kids to go to a top college. will have issues not having long term friends they developed a deep bond with, as they now have tons of rv park acquaintances and facebook friends.Do you feel bad youre ruining your children's lives?
the upsides are what i experienced in a normal summer vacation, so i really dont get how this is getting the kids some crazy exposure to something that others dont.
hey at least you have those soundproof accordion doors to stop the kids from hearing you have sex.
It wasn't.such a polarizing thread
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GB willfully ignorant Otis.
I do have a question for lombardi, though: Where do you live and in what do you live and with whom do you live?
Amen."Why won't you people just answer the questions that have already been answered?!?!?"Why not just answer them if you have an answer? How hard do I have to look? I saw a bunch of pictures and a bunch of floorplans that show what I described.Read further. And look further on layout pictures--they were several different models.He's also talking about going back off into the desert next month. Still doesn't strike me as all that clear. But OK, so I'll take your word for it.Again, it's all in the thread if you care to read. They've been out less than two years and he is ending it for his oldest kid to settle in and find a high school to start next year. That's all quite well discussed and clear. So the "suggestion that they are stopping soon" is right there.And to this point, while we're wasting our innernets dissecting text, I still don't know if he's told us how long he's planned on doing this. Two years doesn't seem like a long time I suppose, but he hasn't ended the trip. They're still out doing it and I didn't see any suggestion they are stopping soon.Well, right. Because it was all the way in post #12 before he mentioned "I don't know how this would affect them long term if we lived like this forever. But for two years I actually things it's been a benefit and taught them a lot about making friends, talking to adults, meeting people, and even how to entertain themselves and use their imaginations."A two year haitus is fine, hippies. Relax. It initially seemed he'd been doing this for years already and intended to do it a whole lot longer.
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I mean this kindly, but it would help to read the thread first before jumping in with the judgmental stuff. Once you have, if you wish to be judgmental, at least you'd be doing it on the basis of some knowledge and information.
Sorry if you don't agree with my questions. People post things here, and they get reactions from other people here. That's what we do. He asked for questions, I raised some.
I don't have a problem with your questions. Just trying to help answer them since you didn't read the thread.
I know you're a busy guy and all, what with lunches and Xmas lights and all, but I think reading maybe one page of a thread before jumping in with both feet might be a better course next time.
this.no chance for the kids to go to a top college. will have issues not having long term friends they developed a deep bond with, as they now have tons of rv park acquaintances and facebook friends.Do you feel bad youre ruining your children's lives?
the upsides are what i experienced in a normal summer vacation, so i really dont get how this is getting the kids some crazy exposure to something that others dont.
hey at least you have those soundproof accordion doors to stop the kids from hearing you have sex.
I'm not going to disagree that international travel would be better, but I fail to understand how you don't think this is an enriching experience. Most kids go to school and spend the rest of their day playing XBOX or on Facebook.you dont get a do over. you get to prepare your kids for college and to succeed in life once. thats it.
thats not to say his kids wont be successful, but this is wilfully stacking the decks against his children by eliminating options, both academically and socially, both of which are incredibly important to long term success in everything in life.
i still have not seen any upsides that could not be gained through family vacations over a 2-4 week period in a summer. its not like this is an opportunity to work in africa and live in the savannah for 2 years becoming immersed in a different culture and living among elephants, hippos, and zebras. that is still a difficult decision but an experience that is transferable to colleges, interviews, and broadening ones outlook on life.
this is going to rv parks which are trailer parks on wheels. not exactly a diverse and rich cultural experience.
to me this is a high risk decision with minimal upside for his kids.
but best of luck to him.
its not ignorant, its life.
Why is there no chance for them to get in to a top college? Most universities talk about wanting unique individuals with different backgrounds and experiences. This is exactly that.this.no chance for the kids to go to a top college. will have issues not having long term friends they developed a deep bond with, as they now have tons of rv park acquaintances and facebook friends.Do you feel bad youre ruining your children's lives?
the upsides are what i experienced in a normal summer vacation, so i really dont get how this is getting the kids some crazy exposure to something that others dont.
hey at least you have those soundproof accordion doors to stop the kids from hearing you have sex.
Willie Neslon said:lombardi could you ask your wife if she would buy make-up from someone in the RV park
Ok, but did he get into a top college?One of my best friends didn't have a "normal" upbringing. He spent years 2-10 in Europe. Traveling a lot in the earlier years then mostly in Mallorca. He came back to the states for a couple years, returned to Spain for 2 more. Then came back for HS. He stayed with a another family so that his parents could continue working abroad. Dude speaks 4 languages, makes mad coin and is one of the more interesting guys you'll ever meet. Never played a team sport, no scouts, has no "childhood" friends. He just got married in a ridiculous castle in France. Normal is over rated.
The only place we force kids to socialize strictly by age is the public school system.Lombardi's kids have been interacting with kids and adults of all ages. I'm pretty sure his kids are more socially adjusted than 90% of kids their age.cstu said:Spending time with the same boring kids every day in school is over-rated. Being on the road meeting new kids all the time is far more valuable than being able to play XBOX after school with Joe and Steve next door.Strikes me as not a very good thing to do to children. Those teenage years are important years for them to be in school, develop relationships and spend time with other kids their age. I've always thought home schooling was odd.
Ding ding ding. The 'socialization' bull#### is a red herring. Most kids in HS can't relate face to face with adults or kids younger than them.The only place we force kids to socialize strictly by age is the public school system.Lombardi's kids have been interacting with kids and adults of all ages. I'm pretty sure his kids are more socially adjusted than 90% of kids their age.cstu said:Spending time with the same boring kids every day in school is over-rated. Being on the road meeting new kids all the time is far more valuable than being able to play XBOX after school with Joe and Steve next door.Strikes me as not a very good thing to do to children. Those teenage years are important years for them to be in school, develop relationships and spend time with other kids their age. I've always thought home schooling was odd.
Yeah...I also don't have to worry about counteracting an ever increasing liberal viewpoint in my children's everyday education. Not just from a religious viewpoint but also from a secular one when it comes to U.S. history and civics. It's no secret that I live in a dyed in blue state that has a strong, liberal teachers union that advocates curriculum and social engineering that doesn't agree with both my spiritual and my civic beliefs.
Woah. Shtick?Yeah...I also don't have to worry about counteracting an ever increasing liberal viewpoint in my children's everyday education. Not just from a religious viewpoint but also from a secular one when it comes to U.S. history and civics. It's no secret that I live in a dyed in blue state that has a strong, liberal teachers union that advocates curriculum and social engineering that doesn't agree with both my spiritual and my civic beliefs.
Who's forcing anyone? Anyone can home school and give their kids similar experiences to lombardi's, just not in such a geographically diverse manner.The only place we force kids to socialize strictly by age is the public school system.Lombardi's kids have been interacting with kids and adults of all ages. I'm pretty sure his kids are more socially adjusted than 90% of kids their age.cstu said:Spending time with the same boring kids every day in school is over-rated. Being on the road meeting new kids all the time is far more valuable than being able to play XBOX after school with Joe and Steve next door.Strikes me as not a very good thing to do to children. Those teenage years are important years for them to be in school, develop relationships and spend time with other kids their age. I've always thought home schooling was odd.
:notebook:Woah. Shtick?Yeah...I also don't have to worry about counteracting an ever increasing liberal viewpoint in my children's everyday education. Not just from a religious viewpoint but also from a secular one when it comes to U.S. history and civics. It's no secret that I live in a dyed in blue state that has a strong, liberal teachers union that advocates curriculum and social engineering that doesn't agree with both my spiritual and my civic beliefs.
You ####ed up the thread with your obtuse arrogant, "I refuse to read the thread and will cast dispersions and judgement all over the place" posting. Backtracking now wont change that. Krista tried to tell you politely, but you were being a giant ****. I don't think anyone's angry about your (ignorant, non informed) opinions.Lots of folks in here getting angry because not everyone agrees with them. Sorry if a few of us raised questions that some of you are uncomfortable with.
To the OP, much respect for going off the beaten path and doing something unique. Sounds awesome, sounds like the kids will have some interesting and unique experiences that 99% of other American kids won't have had, and I can imagine you've made memories your family will cherish forever. Very cool stuff, I'm envious of you for it and suspect many folks in here wish we could pick up and do something interesting like that. May you and your family enjoy the rest of your travels.
You're not angry enough about the internet.You ####ed up the thread with your obtuse arrogant, "I refuse to read the thread and will cast dispersions and judgement all over the place" posting. Backtracking now wont change that. Krista tried to tell you politely, but you were being a giant ****. I don't think anyone's angry about your (ignorant, non informed) opinions.Lots of folks in here getting angry because not everyone agrees with them. Sorry if a few of us raised questions that some of you are uncomfortable with.
To the OP, much respect for going off the beaten path and doing something unique. Sounds awesome, sounds like the kids will have some interesting and unique experiences that 99% of other American kids won't have had, and I can imagine you've made memories your family will cherish forever. Very cool stuff, I'm envious of you for it and suspect many folks in here wish we could pick up and do something interesting like that. May you and your family enjoy the rest of your travels.
NYU?Ok, but did he get into a top college?One of my best friends didn't have a "normal" upbringing. He spent years 2-10 in Europe. Traveling a lot in the earlier years then mostly in Mallorca. He came back to the states for a couple years, returned to Spain for 2 more. Then came back for HS. He stayed with a another family so that his parents could continue working abroad. Dude speaks 4 languages, makes mad coin and is one of the more interesting guys you'll ever meet. Never played a team sport, no scouts, has no "childhood" friends. He just got married in a ridiculous castle in France. Normal is over rated.
Says the guy who1. Did NOT read the entire thread and as suchOtis said:such a polarizing thread
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"Snippy"?Says the guy who1. Did NOT read the entire thread and as suchOtis said:such a polarizing thread
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2. Asks previously answered questions and then
3. Gets snippy when called out on it followed by
4. Issuing judgments on the lives and development of Lombardi's kids
Irony, thou art rich.
Only thing missing is completely derailing the thread about a discussion on which RV he should buy for a future vacation.Says the guy who1. Did NOT read the entire thread and as suchOtis said:such a polarizing thread
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2. Asks previously answered questions and then
3. Gets snippy when called out on it followed by
4. Issuing judgments on the lives and development of Lombardi's kids
Irony, thou art rich.
Ramge Rover ftw.Only thing missing is completely derailing the thread about a discussion on which RV he should buy for a future vacation.Says the guy who1. Did NOT read the entire thread and as suchOtis said:such a polarizing thread
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2. Asks previously answered questions and then
3. Gets snippy when called out on it followed by
4. Issuing judgments on the lives and development of Lombardi's kids
Irony, thou art rich.