I really like Elizabeth Warren (1 Viewer)

[NCCommish]

Regarding the Cherokee thing, didn't the same thing happen with Shania Twain? She marketed herself as being part Native American, but it turns out that her percentage, going by ancestry, was zero?

Also, why has nobody yet linked to

Ok I see what you are saying.

 

[bostonfred]

Regarding the Cherokee thing, didn't the same thing happen with Shania Twain? She marketed herself as being part Native American, but it turns out that her percentage, going by ancestry, was zero?

Also, why has nobody yet linked to

Totally agree, first thing I noticed. And points like that make it easier for the right to paint her as a liberal kook down the line. I think she was trying to balance being respectful to bernanke, asking a tough question, and making the clear point about how big a giveaway this government policy has been, on top of other giveaways. My hope is that she is setting up a larger point for a day when they are setting policy and she can go down the list of giveaways the banks have received when they come back with their hands out and/or say that they've been treated unfairly. Having this on the record may help.

 

[Jewell]

she lives in a very wealthy section of "the People's Republic" of Cambridge and is a legit limousine liberal...like many politicians (of either party) she is the perfect example of someone who practices a do as I say and not as I do attitude...

FYI, since limousines aren't as cool as they were when Mr. Drummond was getting chauffeured around town in one, and limousines are now primarily used by high schoolers looking to score on prom night, the term Limousine Liberal has lost favor and is now starting to be replaced by Latte Liberal. Per Urban Dictionary, "This term derives from liberals who sit around and drink overpriced diluted Starbucks coffee while lamenting the plight of the poor."Please adjust accordingly.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Lattes are passe. We're all about single origin coffees now.

 

[NCCommish]

Lattes are passe. We're all about single origin coffees now.

Still Fair Trade though right? I missed the last meeting so I am behind.

 

[Slapdash]

Lattes are passe. We're all about single origin coffees now.

Is drip brew still in?

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Lattes are passe. We're all about single origin coffees now.

Is drip brew still in?

Manual drip is the gold standard. I have threads on this ****.Liberal yuppie complaint of the day. My local roaster closed his pop-up location at Mr. Yogato so now I have to order off his website until my local farmers market opens in May.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Still

."How many billions does a bank have to launder for drug lords before you consider shutting them down?"

 

[DrJ]

Sounds like a loon.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Sounds like a loon.

She does? You're so backwards it hurts.

 

[DrJ]

Sounds like a loon.

She does?

Certifiable.

 

[timschochet]

Sounds like a loon.

Given the people you apparently root for (particularly the Pauls, father and son) you don't have a great deal of credibility here, IMO.

 

[DrJ]

Sounds like a loon.

Given the people you apparently root for (particularly the Pauls, father and son) you don't have a great deal of credibility here, IMO.

Considering you like this certifiable loon and believe that the 2001 Kings were one of the greatest teams of all time, I'm comfortable in my position.

 

[timschochet]

Sounds like a loon.

Given the people you apparently root for (particularly the Pauls, father and son) you don't have a great deal of credibility here, IMO.

Considering you like this certifiable loon and believe that the 2001 Kings were one of the greatest teams of all time, I'm comfortable in my position.

Um n o. But let's get serious here: what specifically do you find crazy about what she has either said or done?

 

[DrJ]

Sounds like a loon.

Given the people you apparently root for (particularly the Pauls, father and son) you don't have a great deal of credibility here, IMO.

Considering you like this certifiable loon and believe that the 2001 Kings were one of the greatest teams of all time, I'm comfortable in my position.

Um n o. But let's get serious here: what specifically do you find crazy about what she has either said or done?

I'm mostly familiar with her work on Dr Phil. She's a loon.

 

[timschochet]

Sounds like a loon.

Given the people you apparently root for (particularly the Pauls, father and son) you don't have a great deal of credibility here, IMO.

Considering you like this certifiable loon and believe that the 2001 Kings were one of the greatest teams of all time, I'm comfortable in my position.

Um n o. But let's get serious here: what specifically do you find crazy about what she has either said or done?

I'm mostly familiar with her work on Dr Phil. She's a loon.

OK- never saw that. What did she say on that show that makes you think this?

 

[DrJ]

Sounds like a loon.

Given the people you apparently root for (particularly the Pauls, father and son) you don't have a great deal of credibility here, IMO.

Considering you like this certifiable loon and believe that the 2001 Kings were one of the greatest teams of all time, I'm comfortable in my position.

Um n o. But let's get serious here: what specifically do you find crazy about what she has either said or done?

I'm mostly familiar with her work on Dr Phil. She's a loon.

OK- never saw that. What did she say on that show that makes you think this?

I didn't think that needed any additional explanation.

 

[timschochet]

Sounds like a loon.

Given the people you apparently root for (particularly the Pauls, father and son) you don't have a great deal of credibility here, IMO.

Considering you like this certifiable loon and believe that the 2001 Kings were one of the greatest teams of all time, I'm comfortable in my position.

Um n o. But let's get serious here: what specifically do you find crazy about what she has either said or done?

I'm mostly familiar with her work on Dr Phil. She's a loon.

OK- never saw that. What did she say on that show that makes you think this?

I didn't think that needed any additional explanation.

So you're unable to provide any specific example of her being a loon?

 

[DrJ]

Sounds like a loon.

Given the people you apparently root for (particularly the Pauls, father and son) you don't have a great deal of credibility here, IMO.

Considering you like this certifiable loon and believe that the 2001 Kings were one of the greatest teams of all time, I'm comfortable in my position.

Um n o. But let's get serious here: what specifically do you find crazy about what she has either said or done?

I'm mostly familiar with her work on Dr Phil. She's a loon.

OK- never saw that. What did she say on that show that makes you think this?

I didn't think that needed any additional explanation.

So you're unable to provide any specific example of her being a loon?

I just did.

 

[Plorfu]

They can do this all day, folks.

 

[HellToupee]

She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.

A big to all the ham & eggers she has fooled because of the D next to her name

 

[DrJ]

And if anything Tim, I'd figure that in addition to being a loon that her populist nature would rub you the wrong way. There isn't much more populist than her schtick, and we all know how you hate populism.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

And if anything Tim, I'd figure that in addition to being a loon that her populist nature would rub you the wrong way. There isn't much more populist than her schtick, and we all know how you hate populism.

You certainly arent calling the stance about wanting criminal proceeding against those who launder drug money by the hundreds of millions and billions, and break the United States own sanctions against multiple countries -- multiple times.... populist?

 

[DrJ]

And if anything Tim, I'd figure that in addition to being a loon that her populist nature would rub you the wrong way. There isn't much more populist than her schtick, and we all know how you hate populism.

You certainly arent calling the stance about wanting criminal proceeding against those who launder drug money by the hundreds of millions and billions, and break the United States own sanctions against multiple countries -- multiple times.... populist?

Her entire schtick is populist. That's what Krugman likes about her.

 

[timschochet]

And if anything Tim, I'd figure that in addition to being a loon that her populist nature would rub you the wrong way. There isn't much more populist than her schtick, and we all know how you hate populism.

You certainly arent calling the stance about wanting criminal proceeding against those who launder drug money by the hundreds of millions and billions, and break the United States own sanctions against multiple countries -- multiple times.... populist?

Her entire schtick is populist. That's what Krugman likes about her.

And you get this from watching Dr. Phil? I don't agree with much of this woman's politics. As you say, I don't like populism from left or right (though right wing populism scares me far more, as it tends to be much more dimwitted and dangerous- Rand Paul is a prime example). But she seems likeable and honest.

 

[DrJ]

And if anything Tim, I'd figure that in addition to being a loon that her populist nature would rub you the wrong way. There isn't much more populist than her schtick, and we all know how you hate populism.

You certainly arent calling the stance about wanting criminal proceeding against those who launder drug money by the hundreds of millions and billions, and break the United States own sanctions against multiple countries -- multiple times.... populist?

Her entire schtick is populist. That's what Krugman likes about her.

And you get this from watching Dr. Phil? I don't agree with much of this woman's politics. As you say, I don't like populism from left or right (though right wing populism scares me far more, as it tends to be much more dimwitted and dangerous- Rand Paul is a prime example). But she seems likeable and honest.

I didn't say I watched her on Dr. Phil. I've seen her there, and it doesn't take long to spot a loon.

 

[johnnycakes]

And if anything Tim, I'd figure that in addition to being a loon that her populist nature would rub you the wrong way. There isn't much more populist than her schtick, and we all know how you hate populism.

You certainly arent calling the stance about wanting criminal proceeding against those who launder drug money by the hundreds of millions and billions, and break the United States own sanctions against multiple countries -- multiple times.... populist?

Her entire schtick is populist. That's what Krugman likes about her.

And you get this from watching Dr. Phil? I don't agree with much of this woman's politics. As you say, I don't like populism from left or right (though right wing populism scares me far more, as it tends to be much more dimwitted and dangerous- Rand Paul is a prime example). But she seems likeable and honest.

I didn't say I watched her on Dr. Phil. I've seen her there, and it doesn't take long to spot a loon.

Isn't bring a loon a prerequisite to being on the Dr. Phil show?

 

[squistion]

She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big to all the ham & eggers she has fooled because of the D next to her name

Bitter, party of one...your table is ready

 

[honky kong]

And if anything Tim, I'd figure that in addition to being a loon that her populist nature would rub you the wrong way. There isn't much more populist than her schtick, and we all know how you hate populism.

You certainly arent calling the stance about wanting criminal proceeding against those who launder drug money by the hundreds of millions and billions, and break the United States own sanctions against multiple countries -- multiple times.... populist?

Her entire schtick is populist. That's what Krugman likes about her.

"Why do you say she's a populist?""Because I say she is."

"Can you provide any proof?"

"If you need proof, I don't know what to tell you."

Brilliant.

It's beyond belief that there is one ####ing person in the Senate trying to hold the banks accountable for the con job they are perpetrating on all of us and all you can say is "She's a populist." It's ####ing stupid and I'm dumber for having read everything you have posted in this thread. It's people like you that make me think we're doomed.

 

[Daywalker]

I think we would be much better off if we worried less about where a person comes from (or doesn't) and more about what they are doing in the offices they hold today.In the case of Elizabeth Warren, her ancestry and pre-Senatorial background are absolutely meaningless to me. I'm a big fan of the way she is trying to hold corporate banks accountable to the same civil and criminal standards as individual citizens and I don't care if she is hugely wealthy or had easy jobs in the past.In the case of Barack Obama, his ancestry is and pre-Presidential background are absolutely meaningless to me. I'm not a big fan of the way he is governing like a moderate Republican and I don't care that he is perceived as more liberal because he is black or lots of people call him a socialist.

Several s in this thread and this is one.

Think it's to Warren's advantage that her opponents continue attacking this issue regarding her ancestry. Brown looked ridiculous when he led off those debates with this charge. A white guy attacking a woman over whether or not she is really Cherokee and whether she gained an advantage via affirmative action is not going to win over any votes.

 

[tommyGunZ]

And if anything Tim, I'd figure that in addition to being a loon that her populist nature would rub you the wrong way. There isn't much more populist than her schtick, and we all know how you hate populism.

You certainly arent calling the stance about wanting criminal proceeding against those who launder drug money by the hundreds of millions and billions, and break the United States own sanctions against multiple countries -- multiple times.... populist?

Her entire schtick is populist. That's what Krugman likes about her.

"Why do you say she's a populist?""Because I say she is."

"Can you provide any proof?"

"If you need proof, I don't know what to tell you."

Brilliant.

It's beyond belief that there is one ####ing person in the Senate trying to hold the banks accountable for the con job they are perpetrating on all of us and all you can say is "She's a populist." It's ####ing stupid and I'm dumber for having read everything you have posted in this thread. It's people like you that make me think we're doomed.

DrJ is probably the worst poster on this board, and one of the worst I've seen since old yeller.

 

[timschochet]

And if anything Tim, I'd figure that in addition to being a loon that her populist nature would rub you the wrong way. There isn't much more populist than her schtick, and we all know how you hate populism.

You certainly arent calling the stance about wanting criminal proceeding against those who launder drug money by the hundreds of millions and billions, and break the United States own sanctions against multiple countries -- multiple times.... populist?

Her entire schtick is populist. That's what Krugman likes about her.

"Why do you say she's a populist?""Because I say she is."

"Can you provide any proof?"

"If you need proof, I don't know what to tell you."

Brilliant.

It's beyond belief that there is one ####ing person in the Senate trying to hold the banks accountable for the con job they are perpetrating on all of us and all you can say is "She's a populist." It's ####ing stupid and I'm dumber for having read everything you have posted in this thread. It's people like you that make me think we're doomed.

Yeah, I gotta go with this. It's certainly true that she appears to be for the "little guy" against the corporation. That's the fight she wants to fight, and in truth this sort of battle does lend itself to populism.

But the problem with giving Warren that label is that when I listen to her, she raises very specific things that corporations do wrong. And she makes good points. It's the exact opposite of right wing populism, which is hard to separate from anti-intellectualism. As I wrote before, I don't think I agree with Warren's politics- yet as she makes specific points, I find myself agreeing with her more and more. And she's a hard woman not to like.

Also gotta agree with you about Dr. J. In several of these political threads I have attempted to pin him down, but he refuses to get into specifics. He doesn't understand fiscal conservatism. He doesn't understand true libertarianism. He appears to be a product of the Rand Paul Tea Party wing of the GOP, which unfortunately is growing as we speak.

 

[timschochet]

She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big to all the ham & eggers she has fooled because of the D next to her name

I still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big to all the ham & eggers she has fooled because of the D next to her name

I still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.

HellToupee likes his politicians to be genuine and uncompromising, like Mitt Romney.

 

[squistion]

She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big to all the ham & eggers she has fooled because of the D next to her name

I still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.

HellToupee likes his politicians to be genuine and uncompromising, like Mitt Romney.

 

[timschochet]

She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big to all the ham & eggers she has fooled because of the D next to her name

I still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.

HellToupee likes his politicians to be genuine and uncompromising, like Mitt Romney.

It's not just him. I keep reading and hearing stuff about her, how terrible she is, how hypocritical and awful, and there's never any specifics. The only specific I ever hear is the Cherokee story, and it makes no sense that this story would cause the amount of scorn she gets.The Chamber of Commerce declared Warren an "enemy of free enterprise", but they haven't offered specifics either. And it's especially ironic since the Chamber was pretty grateful for TARP, and she was one of the main people in charge of that program. If she truly hates the big banks, why would she want to rescue them?

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big to all the ham & eggers she has fooled because of the D next to her name

I still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.

HellToupee likes his politicians to be genuine and uncompromising, like Mitt Romney.

It's not just him. I keep reading and hearing stuff about her, how terrible she is, how hypocritical and awful, and there's never any specifics. The only specific I ever hear is the Cherokee story, and it makes no sense that this story would cause the amount of scorn she gets.The Chamber of Commerce declared Warren an "enemy of free enterprise", but they haven't offered specifics either. And it's especially ironic since the Chamber was pretty grateful for TARP, and she was one of the main people in charge of that program. If she truly hates the big banks, why would she want to rescue them?

She pretty much personifies the egghead left-wing professor type. That's why a lot of liberal folks like me love her. But it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

She pretty much personifies the egghead left-wing professor type. That's why a lot of liberal folks like me love her. But it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

I'm not sure that's really true. Warren is much more down to earth than say, Pat Moynihan was. I think she's more populist than the normal proffesorial type. And that's why liberals love her. But no, I don't get the "phony" comments at all.

 

[timschochet]

She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big to all the ham & eggers she has fooled because of the D next to her name

I still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.

HellToupee likes his politicians to be genuine and uncompromising, like Mitt Romney.

It's not just him. I keep reading and hearing stuff about her, how terrible she is, how hypocritical and awful, and there's never any specifics. The only specific I ever hear is the Cherokee story, and it makes no sense that this story would cause the amount of scorn she gets.The Chamber of Commerce declared Warren an "enemy of free enterprise", but they haven't offered specifics either. And it's especially ironic since the Chamber was pretty grateful for TARP, and she was one of the main people in charge of that program. If she truly hates the big banks, why would she want to rescue them?

She pretty much personifies the egghead left-wing professor type. That's why a lot of liberal folks like me love her. But it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

There are some progressives that I find truly despicable. Maxine Waters for instance- always saying stuff designed to antagonize people. Conservatives put Warren in that category, and I just don't see it: when I hear her interviewed, she seems like an incredibly nice person, and very down to Earth. As far as "egghead" goes, it's a term I despise, because it lends itself to the anti-intellectualism of the Tea Party types. Still, there ARE smug, know it all type progressives that can be really irritating in their presentation: Paul Krugman is the most obvious example. But again Warren doesn't come off that way.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

She pretty much personifies the egghead left-wing professor type. That's why a lot of liberal folks like me love her. But it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

I'm not sure that's really true. Warren is much more down to earth than say, Pat Moynihan was. I think she's more populist than the normal proffesorial type. And that's why liberals love her.

I guess people can love her for different reasons. But my perception is that the people that hate her are reacting to an image of her as an ivory tower academic.

 

[grateful zed]

can size?

 

[squistion]

It's not just him. I keep reading and hearing stuff about her, how terrible she is, how hypocritical and awful, and there's never any specifics. The only specific I ever hear is the Cherokee story, and it makes no sense that this story would cause the amount of scorn she gets.The Chamber of Commerce declared Warren an "enemy of free enterprise", but they haven't offered specifics either. And it's especially ironic since the Chamber was pretty grateful for TARP, and she was one of the main people in charge of that program. If she truly hates the big banks, why would she want to rescue them?

She pretty much personifies the egghead left-wing professor type. That's why a lot of liberal folks like me love her. But it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

There are some progressives that I find truly despicable. Maxine Waters for instance- always saying stuff designed to antagonize people. Conservatives put Warren in that category, and I just don't see it: when I hear her interviewed, she seems like an incredibly nice person, and very down to Earth. As far as "egghead" goes, it's a term I despise, because it lends itself to the anti-intellectualism of the Tea Party types. Still, there ARE smug, know it all type progressives that can be really irritating in their presentation: Paul Krugman is the most obvious example. But again Warren doesn't come off that way.

My only exposure to her was during the debates with Brown and at times she had a schoolmarmish condescending tone, which plays into the stereotype of those who resent professors/intellectuals.

 

[The Commish]

She pretty much personifies the egghead left-wing professor type. That's why a lot of liberal folks like me love her. But it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

I'm not sure that's really true. Warren is much more down to earth than say, Pat Moynihan was. I think she's more populist than the normal proffesorial type. And that's why liberals love her.

I guess people can love her for different reasons. But my perception is that the people that hate her are reacting to an image of her as an ivory tower academic.

I doubt her "haters" know that much about her. These days, simply having the opposing party affiliation is enough for most idiots to hate.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

She pretty much personifies the egghead left-wing professor type. That's why a lot of liberal folks like me love her. But it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

I'm not sure that's really true. Warren is much more down to earth than say, Pat Moynihan was. I think she's more populist than the normal proffesorial type. And that's why liberals love her.

I guess people can love her for different reasons. But my perception is that the people that hate her are reacting to an image of her as an ivory tower academic.

I doubt her "haters" know that much about her. These days, simply having the opposing party affiliation is enough for most idiots to hate.

No, she definitely gets more hate than your average Democratic Senator. Here's a list of the eight Democrats that joined the Senate as a result of the 2012 elections:Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)Joe Donnelly (D-IN)Chris Murphy (D-CT)Mazie Hirono (D-HI)Martin Heinrich (D-NM)Tim Kaine (D-VA)Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND)I haven't heard much of anything about most of these people. Warren is the one getting the attention, both positive and negative.

 

[The Commish]

She pretty much personifies the egghead left-wing professor type. That's why a lot of liberal folks like me love her. But it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

I'm not sure that's really true. Warren is much more down to earth than say, Pat Moynihan was. I think she's more populist than the normal proffesorial type. And that's why liberals love her.

I guess people can love her for different reasons. But my perception is that the people that hate her are reacting to an image of her as an ivory tower academic.

I doubt her "haters" know that much about her. These days, simply having the opposing party affiliation is enough for most idiots to hate.

No, she definitely gets more hate than your average Democratic Senator. Here's a list of the eight Democrats that joined the Senate as a result of the 2012 elections:Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)Joe Donnelly (D-IN)Chris Murphy (D-CT)Mazie Hirono (D-HI)Martin Heinrich (D-NM)Tim Kaine (D-VA)Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND)I haven't heard much of anything about most of these people. Warren is the one getting the attention, both positive and negative.

What have the rest done or attempted to do? The only reason they aren't "hated" yet is because they haven't gotten the memo to "hate". That's most likely because these others really haven't done or attempted to do much of anything.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I doubt her "haters" know that much about her. These days, simply having the opposing party affiliation is enough for most idiots to hate.

No, she definitely gets more hate than your average Democratic Senator. Here's a list of the eight Democrats that joined the Senate as a result of the 2012 elections:Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)Joe Donnelly (D-IN)Chris Murphy (D-CT)Mazie Hirono (D-HI)Martin Heinrich (D-NM)Tim Kaine (D-VA)Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND)I haven't heard much of anything about most of these people. Warren is the one getting the attention, both positive and negative.

What have the rest done or attempted to do? The only reason they aren't "hated" yet is because they haven't gotten the memo to "hate". That's most likely because these others really haven't done or attempted to do much of anything.

Warren was hated (and loved) before she ever got elected. Unless by "done or attempted to do" you're talking about stuff they did before they became Senators.

 

[The Commish]

I doubt her "haters" know that much about her. These days, simply having the opposing party affiliation is enough for most idiots to hate.

No, she definitely gets more hate than your average Democratic Senator. Here's a list of the eight Democrats that joined the Senate as a result of the 2012 elections:Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)Joe Donnelly (D-IN)Chris Murphy (D-CT)Mazie Hirono (D-HI)Martin Heinrich (D-NM)Tim Kaine (D-VA)Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND)I haven't heard much of anything about most of these people. Warren is the one getting the attention, both positive and negative.

What have the rest done or attempted to do? The only reason they aren't "hated" yet is because they haven't gotten the memo to "hate". That's most likely because these others really haven't done or attempted to do much of anything.

Warren was hated (and loved) before she ever got elected. Unless by "done or attempted to do" you're talking about stuff they did before they became Senators.

I was referring to "as Senator" but I'd be comfortable with you expanding it total career. ETA: I'd also be willing to add that most here "hating" really didn't know who she was prior to being elected Senator either....just a hunch

 

[Joe T]

can size?

Self-reported or actual?

 

[timschochet]

It's not just him. I keep reading and hearing stuff about her, how terrible she is, how hypocritical and awful, and there's never any specifics. The only specific I ever hear is the Cherokee story, and it makes no sense that this story would cause the amount of scorn she gets.The Chamber of Commerce declared Warren an "enemy of free enterprise", but they haven't offered specifics either. And it's especially ironic since the Chamber was pretty grateful for TARP, and she was one of the main people in charge of that program. If she truly hates the big banks, why would she want to rescue them?

She pretty much personifies the egghead left-wing professor type. That's why a lot of liberal folks like me love her. But it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

There are some progressives that I find truly despicable. Maxine Waters for instance- always saying stuff designed to antagonize people. Conservatives put Warren in that category, and I just don't see it: when I hear her interviewed, she seems like an incredibly nice person, and very down to Earth. As far as "egghead" goes, it's a term I despise, because it lends itself to the anti-intellectualism of the Tea Party types. Still, there ARE smug, know it all type progressives that can be really irritating in their presentation: Paul Krugman is the most obvious example. But again Warren doesn't come off that way.

My only exposure to her was during the debates with Brown and at times she had a schoolmarmish condescending tone, which plays into the stereotype of those who resent professors/intellectuals.

I didn't see those. My exposure was her interviews on Bill Maher and MSNBC. I liked the schoolmarmish tone. I didn't think it was that condescending.

 

[DrJ]

It's not just him. I keep reading and hearing stuff about her, how terrible she is, how hypocritical and awful, and there's never any specifics. The only specific I ever hear is the Cherokee story, and it makes no sense that this story would cause the amount of scorn she gets.

The Chamber of Commerce declared Warren an "enemy of free enterprise", but they haven't offered specifics either. And it's especially ironic since the Chamber was pretty grateful for TARP, and she was one of the main people in charge of that program. If she truly hates the big banks, why would she want to rescue them?

She pretty much personifies the egghead left-wing professor type. That's why a lot of liberal folks like me love her. But it rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

There are some progressives that I find truly despicable. Maxine Waters for instance- always saying stuff designed to antagonize people. Conservatives put Warren in that category, and I just don't see it: when I hear her interviewed, she seems like an incredibly nice person, and very down to Earth. As far as "egghead" goes, it's a term I despise, because it lends itself to the anti-intellectualism of the Tea Party types. Still, there ARE smug, know it all type progressives that can be really irritating in their presentation: Paul Krugman is the most obvious example. But again Warren doesn't come off that way.

My only exposure to her was during the debates with Brown and at times she had a schoolmarmish condescending tone, which plays into the stereotype of those who resent professors/intellectuals.

I didn't see those. My exposure was her interviews on Bill Maher and MSNBC. I liked the schoolmarmish tone. I didn't think it was that condescending.

It's easy to look less loony when the hosts are stealing all of your thunder.