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It's easy to put a label on someone that allows you to ignore what they say. It's much harder to think about what they say, decide whether you agree or not, and come up with a reasoned response.EDIT: For what it's worth, I live in Massachusetts and voted for Scott Brown.
A point like this is virtually meaningless with all the gerrymandering that has happened. Dems got 1.4 million more house votes but the GOP still holds 33 more house seats.
She looks like she could be on the cover of Ms. What else do they need?
Well for startersShe railed against house flipping but she bankrolled &predatory banks but yet she made a fortune out of flipping foreclosed houses by bankrolling her brothershe rightly campaigned about the high cost of a college education but she pulled in 350k teaching one classthe dnc bankrolled her while scarring away other opponents with veiled threats like Stephen Lynch in the primaryI still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A bigto all the ham & eggers she has fooled because of the D next to her name
The country lost a tremendous opportunity not electing a good man like MittHellToupee likes his politicians to be genuine and uncompromising, like Mitt Romney.I still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big
You don't say.
Interesting. Never heard any of this before, and I have no idea how accurate it is.Well for startersShe railed against house flipping but she bankrolled &predatory banks but yet she made a fortune out of flipping foreclosed houses by bankrolling her brothershe rightly campaigned about the high cost of a college education but she pulled in 350k teaching one classthe dnc bankrolled her while scarring away other opponents with veiled threats like Stephen Lynch in the primaryI still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big
While working to change the rules, why wouldn't you play within the current rules structure?
Sue him.
OK, so I managed to look closely at some of this last night. All of it seems to stem from the Boston Herald, from columnists with an apparent axe to grind against Warren. While most of the facts seem to be correct, the interpretation, much like yours, is a little questionable. Here's how I see it:1. Warren did not "make a fortune" bankrolling her brother. The two of them made some money in the 90s flipping a few houses. According to the report, her brother bought one house for $30,000 and sold it a few weeks later for $39,000. They did this at least 3 other times. That's not bad, but it's hardly a fortune. Still, it would be hypocritical if Warren really rallied against house flipping, but she didn't. She was concerned about the environment that created the flipping and correctly predicted that corporate speculation, on a grand scale, would lead to a smash up for the consumer. I think trying to make a connection between this stance and her private business dealings is pretty tenuous at best. 2. Warren has in the past sought cheaper college education for students AND higher pay for teachers. The reason that she was highly paid is that she is a huge name and attracts attention to the school- like a celebrity athlete, she makes money for those who pay her, and that is why they pay her. There's no connection between what she was paid and the cost of education, and she is hardly a hypocrite for earning whatever she's worth.3. First off you are blaming Warren for what the DNC did to Stephen Lynch- Warren is not responsible for that. But beyond this point, both the DNC and the RNC do this sort of thing all the time. They often choose the candidate they want and do everything they can to dissuade other candidates. Sometimes it gets a little underhanded, but that's politics. To isolate this case out as if it were special, and then to blame it on Warren, is absurd.So, you got anything else? Because I still don't see the reason for the hatred. There's nothing there.'HellToupee said:Well for startersShe railed against house flipping but she bankrolled &predatory banks but yet she made a fortune out of flipping foreclosed houses by bankrolling her brothershe rightly campaigned about the high cost of a college education but she pulled in 350k teaching one classthe dnc bankrolled her while scarring away other opponents with veiled threats like Stephen Lynch in the primaryI still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big
######### pompous blowhardOK, so I managed to look closely at some of this last night. All of it seems to stem from the Boston Herald, from columnists with an apparent axe to grind against Warren. While most of the facts seem to be correct, the interpretation, much like yours, is a little questionable. Here's how I see it:1. Warren did not "make a fortune" bankrolling her brother. The two of them made some money in the 90s flipping a few houses. According to the report, her brother bought one house for $30,000 and sold it a few weeks later for $39,000. They did this at least 3 other times. That's not bad, but it's hardly a fortune. Still, it would be hypocritical if Warren really rallied against house flipping, but she didn't. She was concerned about the environment that created the flipping and correctly predicted that corporate speculation, on a grand scale, would lead to a smash up for the consumer. I think trying to make a connection between this stance and her private business dealings is pretty tenuous at best. 2. Warren has in the past sought cheaper college education for students AND higher pay for teachers. The reason that she was highly paid is that she is a huge name and attracts attention to the school- like a celebrity athlete, she makes money for those who pay her, and that is why they pay her. There's no connection between what she was paid and the cost of education, and she is hardly a hypocrite for earning whatever she's worth.3. First off you are blaming Warren for what the DNC did to Stephen Lynch- Warren is not responsible for that. But beyond this point, both the DNC and the RNC do this sort of thing all the time. They often choose the candidate they want and do everything they can to dissuade other candidates. Sometimes it gets a little underhanded, but that's politics. To isolate this case out as if it were special, and then to blame it on Warren, is absurd.So, you got anything else? Because I still don't see the reason for the hatred. There's nothing there.'HellToupee said:Well for startersShe railed against house flipping but she bankrolled &predatory banks but yet she made a fortune out of flipping foreclosed houses by bankrolling her brothershe rightly campaigned about the high cost of a college education but she pulled in 350k teaching one classthe dnc bankrolled her while scarring away other opponents with veiled threats like Stephen Lynch in the primaryI still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big
Hmm. I was kind of hoping for a slightly more thoughtful response...######### pompous blowhardOK, so I managed to look closely at some of this last night. All of it seems to stem from the Boston Herald, from columnists with an apparent axe to grind against Warren. While most of the facts seem to be correct, the interpretation, much like yours, is a little questionable. Here's how I see it:1. Warren did not "make a fortune" bankrolling her brother. The two of them made some money in the 90s flipping a few houses. According to the report, her brother bought one house for $30,000 and sold it a few weeks later for $39,000. They did this at least 3 other times. That's not bad, but it's hardly a fortune. Still, it would be hypocritical if Warren really rallied against house flipping, but she didn't. She was concerned about the environment that created the flipping and correctly predicted that corporate speculation, on a grand scale, would lead to a smash up for the consumer. I think trying to make a connection between this stance and her private business dealings is pretty tenuous at best. 2. Warren has in the past sought cheaper college education for students AND higher pay for teachers. The reason that she was highly paid is that she is a huge name and attracts attention to the school- like a celebrity athlete, she makes money for those who pay her, and that is why they pay her. There's no connection between what she was paid and the cost of education, and she is hardly a hypocrite for earning whatever she's worth.3. First off you are blaming Warren for what the DNC did to Stephen Lynch- Warren is not responsible for that. But beyond this point, both the DNC and the RNC do this sort of thing all the time. They often choose the candidate they want and do everything they can to dissuade other candidates. Sometimes it gets a little underhanded, but that's politics. To isolate this case out as if it were special, and then to blame it on Warren, is absurd.So, you got anything else? Because I still don't see the reason for the hatred. There's nothing there.'HellToupee said:Well for startersShe railed against house flipping but she bankrolled &predatory banks but yet she made a fortune out of flipping foreclosed houses by bankrolling her brothershe rightly campaigned about the high cost of a college education but she pulled in 350k teaching one classthe dnc bankrolled her while scarring away other opponents with veiled threats like Stephen Lynch in the primaryI still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big
From him? He always acts like Warren ran over his dog.Hmm. I was kind of hoping for a slightly more thoughtful response...######### pompous blowhardOK, so I managed to look closely at some of this last night. All of it seems to stem from the Boston Herald, from columnists with an apparent axe to grind against Warren. While most of the facts seem to be correct, the interpretation, much like yours, is a little questionable. Here's how I see it:1. Warren did not "make a fortune" bankrolling her brother. The two of them made some money in the 90s flipping a few houses. According to the report, her brother bought one house for $30,000 and sold it a few weeks later for $39,000. They did this at least 3 other times. That's not bad, but it's hardly a fortune. Still, it would be hypocritical if Warren really rallied against house flipping, but she didn't. She was concerned about the environment that created the flipping and correctly predicted that corporate speculation, on a grand scale, would lead to a smash up for the consumer. I think trying to make a connection between this stance and her private business dealings is pretty tenuous at best. 2. Warren has in the past sought cheaper college education for students AND higher pay for teachers. The reason that she was highly paid is that she is a huge name and attracts attention to the school- like a celebrity athlete, she makes money for those who pay her, and that is why they pay her. There's no connection between what she was paid and the cost of education, and she is hardly a hypocrite for earning whatever she's worth.3. First off you are blaming Warren for what the DNC did to Stephen Lynch- Warren is not responsible for that. But beyond this point, both the DNC and the RNC do this sort of thing all the time. They often choose the candidate they want and do everything they can to dissuade other candidates. Sometimes it gets a little underhanded, but that's politics. To isolate this case out as if it were special, and then to blame it on Warren, is absurd.So, you got anything else? Because I still don't see the reason for the hatred. There's nothing there.'HellToupee said:Well for startersShe railed against house flipping but she bankrolled &predatory banks but yet she made a fortune out of flipping foreclosed houses by bankrolling her brothershe rightly campaigned about the high cost of a college education but she pulled in 350k teaching one classthe dnc bankrolled her while scarring away other opponents with veiled threats like Stephen Lynch in the primaryI still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big
I tried to take him seriously. I spent a long time last night looking at his complaints carefully. I expressed my thoughts, and this is what I get? Waste of time.From him? He always acts like Warren ran over his dog.Hmm. I was kind of hoping for a slightly more thoughtful response...######### pompous blowhardOK, so I managed to look closely at some of this last night. All of it seems to stem from the Boston Herald, from columnists with an apparent axe to grind against Warren. While most of the facts seem to be correct, the interpretation, much like yours, is a little questionable. Here's how I see it:1. Warren did not "make a fortune" bankrolling her brother. The two of them made some money in the 90s flipping a few houses. According to the report, her brother bought one house for $30,000 and sold it a few weeks later for $39,000. They did this at least 3 other times. That's not bad, but it's hardly a fortune. Still, it would be hypocritical if Warren really rallied against house flipping, but she didn't. She was concerned about the environment that created the flipping and correctly predicted that corporate speculation, on a grand scale, would lead to a smash up for the consumer. I think trying to make a connection between this stance and her private business dealings is pretty tenuous at best. 2. Warren has in the past sought cheaper college education for students AND higher pay for teachers. The reason that she was highly paid is that she is a huge name and attracts attention to the school- like a celebrity athlete, she makes money for those who pay her, and that is why they pay her. There's no connection between what she was paid and the cost of education, and she is hardly a hypocrite for earning whatever she's worth.3. First off you are blaming Warren for what the DNC did to Stephen Lynch- Warren is not responsible for that. But beyond this point, both the DNC and the RNC do this sort of thing all the time. They often choose the candidate they want and do everything they can to dissuade other candidates. Sometimes it gets a little underhanded, but that's politics. To isolate this case out as if it were special, and then to blame it on Warren, is absurd.So, you got anything else? Because I still don't see the reason for the hatred. There's nothing there.'HellToupee said:Well for startersShe railed against house flipping but she bankrolled &predatory banks but yet she made a fortune out of flipping foreclosed houses by bankrolling her brothershe rightly campaigned about the high cost of a college education but she pulled in 350k teaching one classthe dnc bankrolled her while scarring away other opponents with veiled threats like Stephen Lynch in the primaryI still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.A big
Why would you, based on his past history? This is the same guy who started a thread to discredit Obama before the election last year with a supposedly "newly discovered" incriminating video on the Drudge site:http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=660709&st=0&p=14841703&fromsearch=1entry14841703
I didn't know that. I seem to recall the thread, but I didn't realize it was him.Hell Toupee has generally been rude to me before, despite my support of Romney. But rudeness doesn't bother me. I was honestly curious about this strong dislike of Warren, and I thought he could shed some light on it.
OK, so I managed to look closely at some of this last night. All of it seems to stem from the Boston Herald, from columnists with an apparent axe to grind against Warren. While most of the facts seem to be correct, the interpretation, much like yours, is a little questionable. Here's how I see it:1. Warren did not "make a fortune" bankrolling her brother. The two of them made some money in the 90s flipping a few houses. According to the report, her brother bought one house for $30,000 and sold it a few weeks later for $39,000. They did this at least 3 other times. That's not bad, but it's hardly a fortune. Still, it would be hypocritical if Warren really rallied against house flipping, but she didn't. She was concerned about the environment that created the flipping and correctly predicted that corporate speculation, on a grand scale, would lead to a smash up for the consumer. I think trying to make a connection between this stance and her private business dealings is pretty tenuous at best.'HellToupee said:Well for startersShe railed against house flipping but she bankrolled &predatory banks but yet she made a fortune out of flipping foreclosed houses by bankrolling her brotherI still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.
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she rightly campaigned about the high cost of a college education but she pulled in 350k teaching one class
the dnc bankrolled her while scarring away other opponents with veiled threats like Stephen Lynch in the primary
2. Warren has in the past sought cheaper college education for students AND higher pay for teachers. The reason that she was highly paid is that she is a huge name and attracts attention to the school- like a celebrity athlete, she makes money for those who pay her, and that is why they pay her. There's no connection between what she was paid and the cost of education, and she is hardly a hypocrite for earning whatever she's worth.
3. First off you are blaming Warren for what the DNC did to Stephen Lynch- Warren is not responsible for that. But beyond this point, both the DNC and the RNC do this sort of thing all the time. They often choose the candidate they want and do everything they can to dissuade other candidates. Sometimes it gets a little underhanded, but that's politics. To isolate this case out as if it were special, and then to blame it on Warren, is absurd.
So, you got anything else? Because I still don't see the reason for the hatred. There's nothing there.
Are you honestly trying to suggest that the high cost of college education is directly related to large salaries paid to celebrity teachers??Even for you, that's quite a stretch.OK, so I managed to look closely at some of this last night. All of it seems to stem from the Boston Herald, from columnists with an apparent axe to grind against Warren. While most of the facts seem to be correct, the interpretation, much like yours, is a little questionable. Here's how I see it:1. Warren did not "make a fortune" bankrolling her brother. The two of them made some money in the 90s flipping a few houses. According to the report, her brother bought one house for $30,000 and sold it a few weeks later for $39,000. They did this at least 3 other times. That's not bad, but it's hardly a fortune. Still, it would be hypocritical if Warren really rallied against house flipping, but she didn't. She was concerned about the environment that created the flipping and correctly predicted that corporate speculation, on a grand scale, would lead to a smash up for the consumer. I think trying to make a connection between this stance and her private business dealings is pretty tenuous at best.'HellToupee said:Well for startersShe railed against house flipping but she bankrolled &predatory banks but yet she made a fortune out of flipping foreclosed houses by bankrolling her brotherI still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.
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she rightly campaigned about the high cost of a college education but she pulled in 350k teaching one class
the dnc bankrolled her while scarring away other opponents with veiled threats like Stephen Lynch in the primary
2. Warren has in the past sought cheaper college education for students AND higher pay for teachers. The reason that she was highly paid is that she is a huge name and attracts attention to the school- like a celebrity athlete, she makes money for those who pay her, and that is why they pay her. There's no connection between what she was paid and the cost of education, and she is hardly a hypocrite for earning whatever she's worth.
3. First off you are blaming Warren for what the DNC did to Stephen Lynch- Warren is not responsible for that. But beyond this point, both the DNC and the RNC do this sort of thing all the time. They often choose the candidate they want and do everything they can to dissuade other candidates. Sometimes it gets a little underhanded, but that's politics. To isolate this case out as if it were special, and then to blame it on Warren, is absurd.
So, you got anything else? Because I still don't see the reason for the hatred. There's nothing there.
on her pro-prohibition stance.
The quote was supposed to be a joke at the St. Patrick's Day thingee they do every year where politicians try to be funny. Warren might want to stick to her day job.With that said, a bit of googling does confirm that Warren was asked about legalization when she was running for Senate and she said she didn't support it. So I agree that's a flaw.Interesting quote by Warren on Republican Dan Winslow who is currently vying for the Republican nomination for Senate in an upcoming special election, "I advise everyone to pay very close attention to Dan Wilson's platform. He has a 100 percent ranking from the gun lobby, and he's for the legalization of marijuana. He wants us armed and stoned."
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Well, there goes my liberabonerInteresting quote by Warren on Republican Dan Winslow who is currently vying for the Republican nomination for Senate in an upcoming special election, "I advise everyone to pay very close attention to Dan Wilson's platform. He has a 100 percent ranking from the gun lobby, and he's for the legalization of marijuana. He wants us armed and stoned."
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It's more a symptom of the problem, but the money paid to them obviously comes from somewhere and is built into the cost.Are you honestly trying to suggest that the high cost of college education is directly related to large salaries paid to celebrity teachers??Even for you, that's quite a stretch.OK, so I managed to look closely at some of this last night. All of it seems to stem from the Boston Herald, from columnists with an apparent axe to grind against Warren. While most of the facts seem to be correct, the interpretation, much like yours, is a little questionable. Here's how I see it:1. Warren did not "make a fortune" bankrolling her brother. The two of them made some money in the 90s flipping a few houses. According to the report, her brother bought one house for $30,000 and sold it a few weeks later for $39,000. They did this at least 3 other times. That's not bad, but it's hardly a fortune. Still, it would be hypocritical if Warren really rallied against house flipping, but she didn't. She was concerned about the environment that created the flipping and correctly predicted that corporate speculation, on a grand scale, would lead to a smash up for the consumer. I think trying to make a connection between this stance and her private business dealings is pretty tenuous at best.Well for startersShe railed against house flipping but she bankrolled &predatory banks but yet she made a fortune out of flipping foreclosed houses by bankrolling her brotherI still don't get this. In what way is she loathsome or a phony? Is this all because of the Cherokee thing or is there something else? Not getting the hate here.She just flat out sucks. A true loathesome individual , a hypocrite's hypocrite if you will. As big of phony as you will find in politics. Give me Mo Cowan anyday over her for MA senators , he's genuine.
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she rightly campaigned about the high cost of a college education but she pulled in 350k teaching one class
the dnc bankrolled her while scarring away other opponents with veiled threats like Stephen Lynch in the primary
2. Warren has in the past sought cheaper college education for students AND higher pay for teachers. The reason that she was highly paid is that she is a huge name and attracts attention to the school- like a celebrity athlete, she makes money for those who pay her, and that is why they pay her. There's no connection between what she was paid and the cost of education, and she is hardly a hypocrite for earning whatever she's worth.
3. First off you are blaming Warren for what the DNC did to Stephen Lynch- Warren is not responsible for that. But beyond this point, both the DNC and the RNC do this sort of thing all the time. They often choose the candidate they want and do everything they can to dissuade other candidates. Sometimes it gets a little underhanded, but that's politics. To isolate this case out as if it were special, and then to blame it on Warren, is absurd.
So, you got anything else? Because I still don't see the reason for the hatred. There's nothing there.
Loon. /threadInteresting quote by Warren on Republican Dan Winslow who is currently vying for the Republican nomination for Senate in an upcoming special election, "I advise everyone to pay very close attention to Dan Wilson's platform. He has a 100 percent ranking from the gun lobby, and he's for the legalization of marijuana. He wants us armed and stoned."
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Feature, not a bug. There's no an ounce of real fight in the current office holder.
I was coming in here to post something to the equivalent of ???, but I've reconsidered. I think it would be phenomenal to have our president have to keep his job via MMA or boxing match, once each year, against members of his own party that want to take his spot. Cheney vs. Bush. Obama vs. Biden or Pelosi.
I have no opinion on whether big banks should be loaned money at 0.75% interest. If they shouldn't, and if tying interest on bank loans to interest on student loans will help fix the problem, I could get behind Warren's proposal.
I don't get this. Sure, Obama's not nearly as liberal as many of us would like, but the reality is he's moderate enough to get big things done. HCR is far bigger deal than you naysayers are giving him credit for.
This is head-bangingly stupid. The discount rate is a policy variable related to the type of monetary goals the Fed wants to set for the banking system and money supply. By design, it is unrelated to the "proper" interest rate charged on student loans. If Elizabeth Warren wants to argue that the Federal Reserve should tighten its monetary policy and encourage banks to hold more reserves by raising the discount rate, that is fine, and if she wants to argue that student loans should have a lower interest that is fine too, but referencing the two together in her argument is literally a non sequitur.
I like Warren, but this is pretty silly.
That's fine. But then you don't get to come back and laugh at Republican politicians who openly flirt with Young Earth Creationists, like Bobby Jindahl.
Not only what IK said, but the thought that your average knucklehead college student is somehow equal in importance to a big bank? That's some liberal craziness right there. Almost half of college students drop out. A lot of that loan money goes to beer and pot.
Nothing wrong with it, but there's a vig if you need some $ to do something responsible
She's referring to the discount rate, which is a really poor gauge of where interest rates in the market are really at. There are a couple of important facts that she conveniently neglects... those loans are only from the Fed to commercial banks, and usually only overnight. That makes it ultra-low risk, UNLIKE student loans which are setting records now in the default department. If she wants to get everyone even more steamed up, she should have mentioned the Federal Funds target rate is presently 0.25%.I have no opinion on whether big banks should be loaned money at 0.75% interest. If they shouldn't, and if tying interest on bank loans to interest on student loans will help fix the problem, I could get behind Warren's proposal.
But if she's really just proposing that students should get below-market interest rates because she's fond of students — or especially if she's just fond of college administrators* — I don't favor her plan.
To the extent that the government subsidizes student loans, it is a transfer to college graduates. (That's who repays the loans.) There are a lot of people who are in need of government aid: the homeless, the unemployed, low-income single parents, and so on. College graduates, as a group, are not very high the list, IMO.
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*Colleges will charge the market-clearing price for tuition. If interest rates on loans are reduced, tuitions prices will likely increase. That's how raises for administrators could be funded.
Warren is my all time least favorite pol from MA . ### #### I miss the days of Ted Kennedy & Kerry compared to this loon. If only stinking Martha Coakley defeated Scott Brown in the beginningwow god darn is censored
This is a really good point Ivan. I'd only amend it to say you can't complain about Jindahl's newfound love of Genesis. Especially not if it works. But laughing at and mocking stupid stuff the other side says is actually required.As for whether Adam and Eve riding dinosaurs is as strong a political winner as slamming the banks while pointing out the middle class is getting it with a tack-studded corn cob? Different strokes I guess.
He is a moderate Republican. He is willing to sell SS down the river so he can get some stupid ####### grand bargain and make the GOP like him never mind that they never will. He has expanded the imperial presidency he railed against. He has sold out his supporters on the left time and time again. He would rather kiss Republican ### than do what the people who actually voted for him want. And HCR was a massive give away to insurers.
