If BCS setup wasn't changed which two teams would be in title game (1 Viewer)

[Willie Neslon]

If they hadn't changed to a 4 team playoff, which two teams do you think would be playing in the BCS Championship game?

 

[The Ref]

The game would be Bama vs FSU

 

[B-Deep]

I cannot believe anyone thinks the BCS would have kept Florida State out

 

[Deranged Hermit]

The game would be Bama vs FSU

No brainer here. I'm not sure if anyone honestly believes this wouldn't be the match-up.

 

[Zow]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

 

[Koya]

Zero chance an undefeated FSU wouldn't make it. Prob Bama and possibly Oregon depending on how the polls went over the last 5-6 weeks

 

[Willie Neslon]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

 

[Foosball God]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

So that people can talk about them.

 

[Zow]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

I understand why they did. First, it makes money. Second, I think it's actually a good thing to do in theory because it does let the teams and the fan-based know where they stand. In that vein, it may actually relieve some of the controversy if it's been established for a few weeks that team X is valued over team Y despite similar resumes. And, in fairness to the teams, they, to an extent, know what they have to do to make it.

Of course, ranking TCU 3rd then dropping them three spots after they won in a blowout really doesn't help that second line of reasoning (even if TCU probably should be the 6th ranked team).

 

[jon_mx]

So the eventual champs would not have made it?

 

[Willie Neslon]

Zero chance an undefeated FSU wouldn't make it. Prob Bama and possibly Oregon depending on how the polls went over the last 5-6 weeks

The BCS rankings were polls and computer based. There is no way Oregon could have been ranked ahead of FSU? FSU is ranked 2nd barely in AP and coaches poll. Not sure what the Harris poll would have been. FSU is ranked 3 by this committee.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

So that people can talk about them.

I guess but people would have been talking without them too. I don't understand having them if they are just going to be ignored come the final poll.

 

[Das Boot]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

While it seems goofy in hindsight, it does makes sense - they are ranking the teams each week, and not attempting to forecast future results.

Ohio State and Baylor had big wins in the final weekend. TCU beat a cupcake, hence the rankings change.

I kind of like that it's not business as usual like the old BCS rankings.

Next year people will know to expect more volatility in the weekly rankings, and it will make for more interesting discussion.

 

[Insein]

BCS would have had FSU ranked in the top 2 all year with the human polls. This new format knew all they had to do was keep them in the top 4 so they never ranked them higher.

 

[Foosball God]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

So that people can talk about them.

I guess but people would have been talking without them too. I don't understand having them if they are just going to be ignored come the final poll.

What makes you think they were ignored?

 

[Willie Neslon]

BCS would have had FSU ranked in the top 2 all year with the human polls. This new format knew all they had to do was keep them in the top 4 so they never ranked them higher.

This seems weird. Why wouldn't they rank them higher in BCS but not 4 team playoff? It's the same team in both.

 

[Premier]

FSU would've never come off the 1 line in human polls is not for this committee.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

So that people can talk about them.

I guess but people would have been talking without them too. I don't understand having them if they are just going to be ignored come the final poll.

What makes you think they were ignored?

TCU was #3 and won 55-3. Doesn't feel like they deserved to drop 3 spots in that one week and it happened to be the crucial week. Should they have tried to win 80-0? 55-3 didn't show them to be dominant enough to at least maintain their ranking?

 

[Foosball God]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

So that people can talk about them.

I guess but people would have been talking without them too. I don't understand having them if they are just going to be ignored come the final poll.

What makes you think they were ignored?

TCU was #3 and won 55-3. Doesn't feel like they deserved to drop 3 spots in that one week and it happened to be the crucial week. Should they have tried to win 80-0? 55-3 didn't show them to be dominant enough to at least maintain their ranking?

What makes you think it had anything to do with TCU? The other teams had more difficult opponents and crushed them. It was the Big 12's lack of a championship game and playing a patsy in the final week that left the door open for TCU to be passed.

 

[FUBAR]

TCU got hosed by their conference. If they had won the championship game they probably get in over OSU.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Has there ever been an instance where a team won by a score like 55-3 and dropped three slots in the polls? Has that ever happened? Was this committee just trying to be dramatic? Or was it just a farce all along? I vote farce.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

So that people can talk about them.

I guess but people would have been talking without them too. I don't understand having them if they are just going to be ignored come the final poll.

What makes you think they were ignored?

TCU was #3 and won 55-3. Doesn't feel like they deserved to drop 3 spots in that one week and it happened to be the crucial week. Should they have tried to win 80-0? 55-3 didn't show them to be dominant enough to at least maintain their ranking?

What makes you think it had anything to do with TCU? The other teams had more difficult opponents and crushed them. It was the Big 12's lack of a championship game and playing a patsy in the final week that left the door open for TCU to be passed.

If Iowa St had a better record then TCU would have gotten in? Last week OSU is out of playoff because their QB goes down, then the back up looks good so they're back in? I guess I'm just against the idea of releasing a poll at all before unveiling the final 4. The absence of a poll would create even more speculation anyway.

 

[Zow]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

While it seems goofy in hindsight, it does makes sense - they are ranking the teams each week, and not attempting to forecast future results.

Ohio State and Baylor had big wins in the final weekend. TCU beat a cupcake, hence the rankings change.

I kind of like that it's not business as usual like the old BCS rankings.

Next year people will know to expect more volatility in the weekly rankings, and it will make for more interesting discussion.

I don't disagree with anything you said. These really do seem to be actual week-to-week rankings and as I indicated they did ultimately get it "right" IMO. Their final decision was also very consistent with the parameter that a conference championship would be a bid deal (although inconsistent with their claim that a co-championship would be given the same weight).

But you gotta admit that first impression really leads the TCU shift to appear quite bizarre.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

back in the day:

Orange: TCU v Florida St.

Cotton: Baylor v Mississippi St.

Rose: Oregon v Ohio St.

Sugar: Bama v Michigan St.

All games would be played consecutively on Jan. 1. Starting Jan. 2, we'd all argue endlessly about the "real National Champion."

 

[Zow]

back in the day:

Orange: TCU v Florida St.

Cotton: Baylor v Mississippi St.

Rose: Oregon v Ohio St.

Sugar: Bama v Michigan St.

All games would be played consecutively on Jan. 1. Starting Jan. 2, we'd all argue endlessly about the "real National Champion."

Oh, without a doubt the current system is lightyears better than past systems.

But that just really illustrates why college superior is so far inferior to the NFL and most other pro sports leagues.

 

[Willie Neslon]

What if TCU wins their bowl game 80-0 and OSU wins the playoff with 2 one point wins? Does TCU deserve #1 votes in the final AP poll? I think if this committee who picked the final 4 was voting they would.

 

[Foosball God]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

So that people can talk about them.

I guess but people would have been talking without them too. I don't understand having them if they are just going to be ignored come the final poll.

What makes you think they were ignored?

TCU was #3 and won 55-3. Doesn't feel like they deserved to drop 3 spots in that one week and it happened to be the crucial week. Should they have tried to win 80-0? 55-3 didn't show them to be dominant enough to at least maintain their ranking?

What makes you think it had anything to do with TCU? The other teams had more difficult opponents and crushed them. It was the Big 12's lack of a championship game and playing a patsy in the final week that left the door open for TCU to be passed.

If Iowa St had a better record then TCU would have gotten in? Last week OSU is out of playoff because their QB goes down, then the back up looks good so they're back in? I guess I'm just against the idea of releasing a poll at all before unveiling the final 4. The absence of a poll would create even more speculation anyway.

OSU wasn't out of the playoff because their QB went down. They played a sucky Michigan team so their win didn't mean as much. They curb stomped Wisconsin in the Big 10 title game with a 3rd string QB. That was impressive enough to move them over TCU. It didn't matter that TCU beat the daylights out of Iowa St. because Iowa St. sucks.

 

[Alonzo Mosely]

Zero chance an undefeated FSU wouldn't make it. Prob Bama and possibly Oregon depending on how the polls went over the last 5-6 weeks

The BCS rankings were polls and computer based. There is no way Oregon could have been ranked ahead of FSU? FSU is ranked 2nd barely in AP and coaches poll. Not sure what the Harris poll would have been. FSU is ranked 3 by this committee.

FSU probably doesn't drop in either human poll if the CFP rankings don't drop them. In a straight BCS format, they finish the season at number 1 in both polls.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

So that people can talk about them.

I guess but people would have been talking without them too. I don't understand having them if they are just going to be ignored come the final poll.

What makes you think they were ignored?

TCU was #3 and won 55-3. Doesn't feel like they deserved to drop 3 spots in that one week and it happened to be the crucial week. Should they have tried to win 80-0? 55-3 didn't show them to be dominant enough to at least maintain their ranking?

What makes you think it had anything to do with TCU? The other teams had more difficult opponents and crushed them. It was the Big 12's lack of a championship game and playing a patsy in the final week that left the door open for TCU to be passed.

If Iowa St had a better record then TCU would have gotten in? Last week OSU is out of playoff because their QB goes down, then the back up looks good so they're back in? I guess I'm just against the idea of releasing a poll at all before unveiling the final 4. The absence of a poll would create even more speculation anyway.

OSU wasn't out of the playoff because their QB went down. They played a sucky Michigan team so their win didn't mean as much. They curb stomped Wisconsin in the Big 10 title game with a 3rd string QB. That was impressive enough to move them over TCU. It didn't matter that TCU beat the daylights out of Iowa St. because Iowa St. sucks.

So it's more about how you win than if you win? Well TCU just won 55-3 and they dropped 3 spots. Sure Wisconsin is a better opponent than ISU but Wisconsin did not come to play saturday. Any chance the conference told them to take a dive? It's not like Wisconsin was getting into that playoff. For ISU that was their bowl game and they were humiliated.

 

[Willie Neslon]

If Alabama had lost 2 games would they still have gotten in the final 4? If FSU had lost one game would they still have gotten in the final 4? Something tells me the committee would have found a way like they did with OSU.

 

[Zow]

Seems pretty obvious. FSU would have to be in there for being undefeated. Alabama is easily the most impressive one-loss team.

I absolutely think the committee got it about as "right" as they could have (top 3 were obvious choices and legit arguments could be made for any of the 3 teams vying for that 4th spot). Their dumb move was listing TCU third last week, as the past weekend's results were easily foreseeable.

I don't understand why they even released weekly rankings.

So that people can talk about them.

I guess but people would have been talking without them too. I don't understand having them if they are just going to be ignored come the final poll.

What makes you think they were ignored?

TCU was #3 and won 55-3. Doesn't feel like they deserved to drop 3 spots in that one week and it happened to be the crucial week. Should they have tried to win 80-0? 55-3 didn't show them to be dominant enough to at least maintain their ranking?

What makes you think it had anything to do with TCU? The other teams had more difficult opponents and crushed them. It was the Big 12's lack of a championship game and playing a patsy in the final week that left the door open for TCU to be passed.

If Iowa St had a better record then TCU would have gotten in? Last week OSU is out of playoff because their QB goes down, then the back up looks good so they're back in? I guess I'm just against the idea of releasing a poll at all before unveiling the final 4. The absence of a poll would create even more speculation anyway.

OSU wasn't out of the playoff because their QB went down. They played a sucky Michigan team so their win didn't mean as much. They curb stomped Wisconsin in the Big 10 title game with a 3rd string QB. That was impressive enough to move them over TCU. It didn't matter that TCU beat the daylights out of Iowa St. because Iowa St. sucks.

So it's more about how you win than if you win? Well TCU just won 55-3 and they dropped 3 spots. Sure Wisconsin is a better opponent than ISU but Wisconsin did not come to play saturday. Any chance the conference told them to take a dive? It's not like Wisconsin was getting into that playoff. For ISU that was their bowl game and they were humiliated.

Okay now you're just off the deep end.

 

[Zow]

If Alabama had lost 2 games would they still have gotten in the final 4? If FSU had lost one game would they still have gotten in the final 4? Something tells me the committee would have found a way like they did with OSU.

Something tells me you have a bit of a bias which clouds your rationale.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Okay now you're just off the deep end.

I just say you don't put a team at #3 with one week left and then drop them 3 spots after they win 55-3. FSU won 37-35 and gained 4 spots on TCU in that one week. Why? Because Georgia Tech was that good? Just come out and say the rankings were a farce and we can move on.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

back in the day:

Orange: TCU v Florida St.

Cotton: Baylor v Mississippi St.

Rose: Oregon v Ohio St.

Sugar: Bama v Michigan St.

All games would be played consecutively on Jan. 1. Starting Jan. 2, we'd all argue endlessly about the "real National Champion."

Oh, without a doubt the current system is lightyears better than past systems.

But that just really illustrates why college superior is so far inferior to the NFL and most other pro sports leagues.

Strongly disagree the current system is better in any way than the old ties, other than generating a ####-ton more cash.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Better question:

Better Chicken: Chick-Fil-A or Raising Caine's?

You know if they had a blind taste test like Coke and Pepsi used to do.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Better question:

Better Chicken: Chick-Fil-A or Raising Caine's?

You know if they had a blind taste test like Coke and Pepsi used to do.

Fresh vs. processed? I'll take fresh thank you

 

[Das Boot]

Okay now you're just off the deep end.

I just say you don't put a team at #3 with one week left and then drop them 3 spots after they win 55-3. FSU won 37-35 and gained 4 spots on TCU in that one week. Why? Because Georgia Tech was that good? Just come out and say the rankings were a farce and we can move on.

I think you're missing how the rankings work now; it ain't like your father's BCS.

 

[Brony]

Okay now you're just off the deep end.

I just say you don't put a team at #3 with one week left and then drop them 3 spots after they win 55-3. FSU won 37-35 and gained 4 spots on TCU in that one week. Why? Because Georgia Tech was that good? Just come out and say the rankings were a farce and we can move on.

I think you're missing how the rankings work now; it ain't like your father's BCS.

so the committee is not wearing dark dress socks with sneakers now?

 

[Das Boot]

Okay now you're just off the deep end.

I just say you don't put a team at #3 with one week left and then drop them 3 spots after they win 55-3. FSU won 37-35 and gained 4 spots on TCU in that one week. Why? Because Georgia Tech was that good? Just come out and say the rankings were a farce and we can move on.

I think you're missing how the rankings work now; it ain't like your father's BCS.

so the committee is not wearing dark dress socks with sneakers now?

Correct, nor driving Buicks.

 

[Slapdash]

back in the day:

Orange: TCU v Florida St.

Cotton: Baylor v Mississippi St.

Rose: Oregon v Ohio St.

Sugar: Bama v Michigan St.

All games would be played consecutively on Jan. 1. Starting Jan. 2, we'd all argue endlessly about the "real National Champion."

Now imagine this was the first round of an 8 team playoff....

 

[Das Boot]

back in the day:

Orange: TCU v Florida St.

Cotton: Baylor v Mississippi St.

Rose: Oregon v Ohio St.

Sugar: Bama v Michigan St.

All games would be played consecutively on Jan. 1. Starting Jan. 2, we'd all argue endlessly about the "real National Champion."

Now imagine this was the first round of an 8 team playoff....

I can't wait for that day.

Who knows how long it will take though. :(

 

[Willie Neslon]

Okay now you're just off the deep end.

I just say you don't put a team at #3 with one week left and then drop them 3 spots after they win 55-3. FSU won 37-35 and gained 4 spots on TCU in that one week. Why? Because Georgia Tech was that good? Just come out and say the rankings were a farce and we can move on.

I think you're missing how the rankings work now; it ain't like your father's BCS.

I know how they work. They just make it up as they go along because it doesn't matter until the end anyway. At least with the BCS you could see what the scenarios were before the games. now it's anybody's guess.

 

[Das Boot]

Okay now you're just off the deep end.

I just say you don't put a team at #3 with one week left and then drop them 3 spots after they win 55-3. FSU won 37-35 and gained 4 spots on TCU in that one week. Why? Because Georgia Tech was that good? Just come out and say the rankings were a farce and we can move on.

I think you're missing how the rankings work now; it ain't like your father's BCS.

I know how they work. They just make it up as they go along because it doesn't matter until the end anyway. At least with the BCS you could see what the scenarios were before the games. now it's anybody's guess.

I don't think they were making it up as they went along, they were recalculating it each week.

Which led to some interesting shifts that wouldn't have happened under the old school methods.

In hindsight, it was kind of foreseeable that TCU could conceivably drop with Baylor and Ohio State playing ranked opponents and TCU playing a cream puff.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Okay now you're just off the deep end.

I just say you don't put a team at #3 with one week left and then drop them 3 spots after they win 55-3. FSU won 37-35 and gained 4 spots on TCU in that one week. Why? Because Georgia Tech was that good? Just come out and say the rankings were a farce and we can move on.

I think you're missing how the rankings work now; it ain't like your father's BCS.

I know how they work. They just make it up as they go along because it doesn't matter until the end anyway. At least with the BCS you could see what the scenarios were before the games. now it's anybody's guess.

I don't think they were making it up as they went along, they were recalculating it each week.

Which led to some interesting shifts that wouldn't have happened under the old school methods.

In hindsight, it was kind of foreseeable that TCU could conceivably drop with Baylor and Ohio State playing ranked opponents and TCU playing a cream puff.

I just disagree that style points should matter and even so TCU absolutely demolished that cream puff. Even if TCU won in OT they didn't deserve to free fall to 6. You can't move teams up and down the rankings this late in the year like that. What about the other 12 games they already played? Because TCU plays a weak team to close the regular season, that outweighs the fact that they smoked them and the other 12 games they played? It's ridiculous if you think about it. They really put a lot of stock in TCU's final opponent's record I guess. Wisconsin may have been a ranked team but do really good non-cream puff teams get destroyed on a neutral field like that? Maybe Wisconsin wasn't that good?

 

[This_Guy]

The thing is they have no indication of how far apart they consider the teams in their rankings. It would be expect that TCU, OSU & Baylor were considered extremely close to each other coming into the final weekend. If that is the case, a team beating a much better opponent is going to boost their position compared to a team that plays a weaker opponent. In the BCS as well as the AP and coaches poll they show the points so you can see how close teams are. the CFP doesn't do this.

Here is a very basic set up to show how such a sliver of difference could cause teams to make a big jump in ranking. These numbers are completely made up just to explain the point.

1. Alabama 1000 Points

2. Oregon 900 Points

3. TCU 500 Points

4. FSU 499 Points

5. Ohio State 498 Points

6. Baylor 497 points

7. Arizona 300 Points

8. Michigan St 200 Points

If they are bunched that close a game against a superior opponent is going to matter. The slightest improvement in a teams case is going to move them within that group pretty easily. We don't get to see how close the committee has the teams week to week but an educated guess says they had them very close.

All that being said, the structure of the conferences and scheduling needs to be more uniform. Conferences should all be the same number of teams, all decide a champion with a championship game OR all decide by declaring a champion, get rid of the FCS games, require teams to play a consistent mix of non-conference games. Just to name a few things.

 

[Insein]

BCS would have had FSU ranked in the top 2 all year with the human polls. This new format knew all they had to do was keep them in the top 4 so they never ranked them higher.

This seems weird. Why wouldn't they rank them higher in BCS but not 4 team playoff? It's the same team in both.

When there's a margin of error, humans will take the leeway. No one would have the balls to rank the undefeated defending champs anything less than 2 if it was done the old way. New system allows for some interpretation.

 

[Willie Neslon]

BCS would have had FSU ranked in the top 2 all year with the human polls. This new format knew all they had to do was keep them in the top 4 so they never ranked them higher.

This seems weird. Why wouldn't they rank them higher in BCS but not 4 team playoff? It's the same team in both.

When there's a margin of error, humans will take the leeway. No one would have the balls to rank the undefeated defending champs anything less than 2 if it was done the old way. New system allows for some interpretation.

New system is all interpretation.

 

[Das Boot]

BCS would have had FSU ranked in the top 2 all year with the human polls. This new format knew all they had to do was keep them in the top 4 so they never ranked them higher.

This seems weird. Why wouldn't they rank them higher in BCS but not 4 team playoff? It's the same team in both.

When there's a margin of error, humans will take the leeway. No one would have the balls to rank the undefeated defending champs anything less than 2 if it was done the old way. New system allows for some interpretation.

New system is all interpretation.

My guess is they used a ton of metrics to arrive at their final list.

 

[mr roboto]

I still think they should settle for a 6 team playoff with top 2 seeds getting a bye. 4 isn't enough and 8 is too many iMO.

 

[Willie Neslon]

BCS would have had FSU ranked in the top 2 all year with the human polls. This new format knew all they had to do was keep them in the top 4 so they never ranked them higher.

This seems weird. Why wouldn't they rank them higher in BCS but not 4 team playoff? It's the same team in both.

When there's a margin of error, humans will take the leeway. No one would have the balls to rank the undefeated defending champs anything less than 2 if it was done the old way. New system allows for some interpretation.

New system is all interpretation.

My guess is they used a ton of metrics to arrive at their final list.

The used a ton of influence