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Screw that. You're out somewhere and a girl is flirting and acting single, she's single. Maybe she's having issues in her relationship, maybe he's a loser or cheated on her already, I really don't care. I'm trying to get laid. If she's committed to someone, that's between her and her conscience and the other dude. Now if she's wearing a ring, that's a whole other story.
meh, what happens in vegas stays in vegas. not like they were going to continue hooking up afterwards.
Never blame the other dude. It's your girl who's cheating.
If he didnt someone else would have. Girl was obviously looking to party.
These are all basically the same comment so I'll just reply to them all at once.Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that. Now I know women are going to cheat and men are going to be happy to help them do so but that doesn't make it right or even OK. It's even worse considering why this thread was created in the first place and how much pain he clearly went, and is still going, through.##### move 16.
 
Screw that. You're out somewhere and a girl is flirting and acting single, she's single. Maybe she's having issues in her relationship, maybe he's a loser or cheated on her already, I really don't care. I'm trying to get laid. If she's committed to someone, that's between her and her conscience and the other dude. Now if she's wearing a ring, that's a whole other story.
meh, what happens in vegas stays in vegas. not like they were going to continue hooking up afterwards.
Never blame the other dude. It's your girl who's cheating.
If he didnt someone else would have. Girl was obviously looking to party.
These are all basically the same comment so I'll just reply to them all at once.Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that. Now I know women are going to cheat and men are going to be happy to help them do so but that doesn't make it right or even OK. It's even worse considering why this thread was created in the first place and how much pain he clearly went, and is still going, through.##### move 16.
:shrug:She didn't tell him until afterwards, right? Can't really blame him. Maybe for the second time, but at that point it doesn't really matter anyways does it?
 
Screw that. You're out somewhere and a girl is flirting and acting single, she's single. Maybe she's having issues in her relationship, maybe he's a loser or cheated on her already, I really don't care. I'm trying to get laid. If she's committed to someone, that's between her and her conscience and the other dude. Now if she's wearing a ring, that's a whole other story.
meh, what happens in vegas stays in vegas. not like they were going to continue hooking up afterwards.
Never blame the other dude. It's your girl who's cheating.
If he didnt someone else would have. Girl was obviously looking to party.
These are all basically the same comment so I'll just reply to them all at once.Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that. Now I know women are going to cheat and men are going to be happy to help them do so but that doesn't make it right or even OK. It's even worse considering why this thread was created in the first place and how much pain he clearly went, and is still going, through.##### move 16.
Based on the replies, it seems you're definately in the minority on this view. No. 16 wasn't the cheater, he was the cheatee. Yes, he assumes the part of the PT, but you don't see No. 16 threatening to kick the PT's ### do you (not that anyone actually believes he'd be able to lol). To the majority of men, the fault rests primarily with the cheater. I'm sure I've seen this on Seinfeld, so it must be true.
 
:shrug:She didn't tell him until afterwards, right? Can't really blame him. Maybe for the second time, but at that point it doesn't really matter anyways does it?
Obviously if he didn't know then there's nothing he could do but he shouldn't have hooked up the second time. It even sounds like he had another girl ready to go and turned it down to go back to dating girl.
 
So.... slightly less than one week. That's how long you can live without the FFA's attention. Totally healthy.
You're by far the biggest buzz kill in this thread. Let it go already.There's a 100+ pages of solid advice that he's consistently ignored. If you think you're going to change that you're wrong.

The guy's mid 20's and acting like one. Sit back and enjoy the show or get out of the way already.

On the Vegas trip, Nicely done 16! Any of these chicks near your location? Any chance of a repeat? Hope you wrapped it this time!

What happened with FBG Fillipina Photo girl? You had mentioned seeing how far she'd go.

Continue to distance yourself from that Coral whore of yours. Has she contacted you since your dog passed?

PS sorry again about the dog. it is the sux.
These chicks live fairly near to me. I could probably repeat but again she's taken so I'm not going to pursue her. However, if she ever calls I'll certainly let it go to voice mail and then message her back. "F-B-G" is kind of a funny story. I sent her a text giving her my Google voice number, forgetting that I set it up with a fake name. Apparently she called instead of texting and heard the fake name and mentioned something about it. Don't think she ever bought it. I told her I had "too many stalkers" so I had to use a fake name. I sent her a text last week...something along the lines of, "I'm don't have work tonight. How bad can you be?" She didn't reply until the next morning. "Sorry, I have plans already." No harm. However, this past weekend when my buddy saw ATM girl and her friend (the one he hooked up with), he told me she asked about me. Not, one worth any extra effort for. If she calls for more, why not. Otherwise, I already did ATMwS and facialized her. Not sure what else I can do with her aside from angle a threesome.

As for the Coral whore.....
go on...
 
Screw that. You're out somewhere and a girl is flirting and acting single, she's single. Maybe she's having issues in her relationship, maybe he's a loser or cheated on her already, I really don't care. I'm trying to get laid. If she's committed to someone, that's between her and her conscience and the other dude. Now if she's wearing a ring, that's a whole other story.
meh, what happens in vegas stays in vegas. not like they were going to continue hooking up afterwards.
Never blame the other dude. It's your girl who's cheating.
If he didnt someone else would have. Girl was obviously looking to party.
These are all basically the same comment so I'll just reply to them all at once.Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that. Now I know women are going to cheat and men are going to be happy to help them do so but that doesn't make it right or even OK. It's even worse considering why this thread was created in the first place and how much pain he clearly went, and is still going, through.##### move 16.
The guy already posted naked pictures of a 1-night stand on the internet with sign language superimposed over the photo. It doesn't get much more disgusting than that. I think banging a married woman and not posting naked pictures of her is a step up on the scumbag scale.
 
Screw that. You're out somewhere and a girl is flirting and acting single, she's single. Maybe she's having issues in her relationship, maybe he's a loser or cheated on her already, I really don't care. I'm trying to get laid. If she's committed to someone, that's between her and her conscience and the other dude. Now if she's wearing a ring, that's a whole other story.
meh, what happens in vegas stays in vegas. not like they were going to continue hooking up afterwards.
Never blame the other dude. It's your girl who's cheating.
If he didnt someone else would have. Girl was obviously looking to party.
These are all basically the same comment so I'll just reply to them all at once.Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that. Now I know women are going to cheat and men are going to be happy to help them do so but that doesn't make it right or even OK. It's even worse considering why this thread was created in the first place and how much pain he clearly went, and is still going, through.##### move 16.
The guy already posted naked pictures of a 1-night stand on the internet with sign language superimposed over the photo. It doesn't get much more disgusting than that. I think banging a married woman and not posting naked pictures of her is a step up on the scumbag scale.
Scumbag, eh?
 
Screw that. You're out somewhere and a girl is flirting and acting single, she's single. Maybe she's having issues in her relationship, maybe he's a loser or cheated on her already, I really don't care. I'm trying to get laid. If she's committed to someone, that's between her and her conscience and the other dude. Now if she's wearing a ring, that's a whole other story.
meh, what happens in vegas stays in vegas. not like they were going to continue hooking up afterwards.
Never blame the other dude. It's your girl who's cheating.
If he didnt someone else would have. Girl was obviously looking to party.
These are all basically the same comment so I'll just reply to them all at once.Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that. Now I know women are going to cheat and men are going to be happy to help them do so but that doesn't make it right or even OK. It's even worse considering why this thread was created in the first place and how much pain he clearly went, and is still going, through.##### move 16.
The guy already posted naked pictures of a 1-night stand on the internet with sign language superimposed over the photo. It doesn't get much more disgusting than that. I think banging a married woman and not posting naked pictures of her is a step up on the scumbag scale.
Scumbag, eh?
I feel like you're somehow confused about my use of that term and I don't know how to help.
 
Screw that. You're out somewhere and a girl is flirting and acting single, she's single. Maybe she's having issues in her relationship, maybe he's a loser or cheated on her already, I really don't care. I'm trying to get laid. If she's committed to someone, that's between her and her conscience and the other dude. Now if she's wearing a ring, that's a whole other story.
meh, what happens in vegas stays in vegas. not like they were going to continue hooking up afterwards.
Never blame the other dude. It's your girl who's cheating.
If he didnt someone else would have. Girl was obviously looking to party.
These are all basically the same comment so I'll just reply to them all at once.Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that. Now I know women are going to cheat and men are going to be happy to help them do so but that doesn't make it right or even OK. It's even worse considering why this thread was created in the first place and how much pain he clearly went, and is still going, through.##### move 16.
The guy already posted naked pictures of a 1-night stand on the internet with sign language superimposed over the photo. It doesn't get much more disgusting than that. I think banging a married woman and not posting naked pictures of her is a step up on the scumbag scale.
Scumbag, eh?To answer Kanil... I didn't know until after we boned that are had a boyfriend. At that point it's not my fault and at the end of the day not my problem. Sure I boned her the second night but it's not like I had to use chloroform to get her to come with me.Also, after we boned the second night I made it clear to her that I was not interested in a long term trelationship. That I liked being single. I didn't want to give her any false hope that there is a future. After that she still asked for my number. Not saying I'm without fault, but then again I'm not passing judgement on others.
 
Screw that. You're out somewhere and a girl is flirting and acting single, she's single. Maybe she's having issues in her relationship, maybe he's a loser or cheated on her already, I really don't care. I'm trying to get laid. If she's committed to someone, that's between her and her conscience and the other dude. Now if she's wearing a ring, that's a whole other story.
meh, what happens in vegas stays in vegas. not like they were going to continue hooking up afterwards.
Never blame the other dude. It's your girl who's cheating.
If he didnt someone else would have. Girl was obviously looking to party.
These are all basically the same comment so I'll just reply to them all at once.Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that. Now I know women are going to cheat and men are going to be happy to help them do so but that doesn't make it right or even OK. It's even worse considering why this thread was created in the first place and how much pain he clearly went, and is still going, through.##### move 16.
The guy already posted naked pictures of a 1-night stand on the internet with sign language superimposed over the photo. It doesn't get much more disgusting than that. I think banging a married woman and not posting naked pictures of her is a step up on the scumbag scale.
Scumbag, eh?
Ignore the guy. there's plenty more disgusting than what he cited. But post more pics, and update the PT Cruiser.
 
Not interested in a thread featuring some male nurse going 50% in Vegas.
It's not about a male nurse going 50%.
It is now, and it's a yawner.I know, plenty of threads, etc. etc.
This thread is now like if, at the end of three hours of Gone With the Wind, Rhett Butler tells Scarlet O'Hara "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" and walks out her door, only to return 15 seconds later with some skanky new character and start having sex with her on the plantation house floor.
 
Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that.
So, when I knowing trap bet in poker, that's morally wrong? And you know, you're on a football message board - a sport that revels in inflicting violence upon other people.
 
Threesome dude. My biggest regret when I say I do next spring is that I'll never have done one. Even had the right slore primed and ready to go for it too but I didn't push it enough. Do it while you can.
Im seriously not being a ####, but are you sure you are ready for marriage?
 
Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that.
So, when I knowing trap bet in poker, that's morally wrong? And you know, you're on a football message board - a sport that revels in inflicting violence upon other people.
Well, I sure can't think of a reason this would be differentiated from basic moral rules. You got 'im there.
 
Stayed at work a little longer than expected and traffic is just brutal at this time, so I'm a little pressed for time. Hopefully I can catch you guys up on everything.

The last time you guys heard about Alyssa was last week after the dog died and we dropped off the body. We parted ways at the vet's office and that was that. Well.... starting that night I started receiving texts from her about missing the dog, feeling sad, etc. I didn't answer any because I didn't want to be her shoulder to cry on. However, that didn't last very long sadly.

The day after I was canceled from work and left home alone because everyone had gone to work. I'm not used to being home alone and with the dog death still weighing on me I cracked. Alyssa had been texting me that morning about being unable to sleep and crying uncontrollably. I didn't want to be alone and I knew how hard she would take all of this so I texted her: "I'll pick you up at 1300 and we'll go for a hike." She replied... "OK."

I picked her up and we went hiking and afterwards treated ourselves to a happy hour. During our time together, I purposely kept our interactions platonic. I didn't reach for her hand, hold her waist, etc. I was friendly, but distant. In my mind I just wanted someone there to grieve with. After we ate I dropped her off at her place and with the car still running she turned to me and just said, "Thank you." She stepped out of the car and left the car without looking back. She didn't reach over to give me a hug, a kiss, or anything like that. At that moment I realized, that she couldn't/didn't want to give me any physical support/connection. So I just said "Bye" and just drove away.

I knew she would probably text me later that night so I wanted her to understand that that was the last time I would be her shoulder to cry on. Just like I expected she texted me saying how she was thankful for what I did but that she was still sad and crying. I sent her a text back that read:

"You're welcome. I know this is tough but you'll get through this. Just rely on your friends, family, and boyfriend. Today showed you can't give me the physical attention I deserve and I'm not just going to be the shoulder your cry on when things go bad. That's what you're boyfriend is supposed to do. So take care Alyssa. Good bye."

After that she sent some message about understanding my position, thanking me, and telling me how great a guy I was. I ignored it and didn't reply... and I didn't reply for the following two days when she kept bombarding me with messages about how she wanted to work things out, but just couldn't stop imagining all the dirty stuff I had been doing with all the girls I had been banging while we were apart. There was even a period where she called 25 times in a day, but I ignored her and just continued living my life. I had tasted the success of hooking up in Vegas and I knew there were plenty of women that would be attracted to me and what I had to offer. Eventually it stopped and there was no contact from her until last night when she texted:

"Can we please just meet each other one more time to say goodbye? If I had know that was the last time I would see you I would have given you a hug. I just want to hug you one more time."

I ignored that message, but then it was followed by a couple more messages requesting we meet to end things on "good terms."

Eventually, I fired back the text...

"I'll only meet you if you agree that our last hug will be the morning after we spend the night together in a hotel."

At first she was reluctant and demanded that we just have dinner. I stood firm and said I couldn't just say good bye in public because there were things that I needed to say in private and with her undivided attention.

"But what do I tell PT?" she asked.

"Why do you have to tell him anything?" I sent back to her.

She didn't reply for the longest time, but the pace and the exchanges I knew she wanted to meet. One thing I have learned since being single is to be assertive with women and that they respond when you TELL them what to do...so I texted her:

"I'll pick you up tomorrow at 2100 after work. We'll have dinner and then check into a hotel room nearby."

She instantly replies: "K"

And that's where I'm at right now. Not sure what's gonna happen or why I even agreed to see her again, but I'm prepared for this to be the final "good bye".

 
Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that.
So, when I knowing trap bet in poker, that's morally wrong? And you know, you're on a football message board - a sport that revels in inflicting violence upon other people.
Well, I sure can't think of a reason this would be differentiated from basic moral rules. You got 'im there.
There are plenty of situations that are zero sum; someone gets a benefit resulting in someone else's detriment. Under his definition, thats morally reprehensible.
 
You're a GD fool.
This is not new.
LOL. I'm 42 years old and married. I remember being sick about breaking up with a few women but dang, I or anyone I know was never this stupid with a woman. It's like a sickness. I just wish I could be there when 16 is my age to see what he feels about his behavior. I understand he's young but he's not a kid, by all accounts he's a grown ### man. I weep for our country and the ##### men we are producing.
 
Man... I was a proponent of the "one last bang" before... but I don't know if it's a good idea now, under these circumstances.

 
Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that.
So, when I knowing trap bet in poker, that's morally wrong? And you know, you're on a football message board - a sport that revels in inflicting violence upon other people.
Well, I sure can't think of a reason this would be differentiated from basic moral rules. You got 'im there.
There are plenty of situations that are zero sum; someone gets a benefit resulting in someone else's detriment. Under his definition, thats morally reprehensible.
For example, is it morally wrong to accept a job offer because you'll be preventing another person from finding work? Kanil's sentiment is nice but doesn't hold up. As far as this specific scenario, I don't like to get involved with cheaters. I don't respect them, and HELLO, they'll probably do it again. But I fail to see how #16 really wronged the other guy. I doubt his dancing skills were so crackin' it caused her to stray, her relationship's probably on its last legs and as others have said if it wasn't #16 it would be someone else.
 
I thought she broke up with PT?
16 gaining hand big time. Definitely #### the #### out of her one last time and let her go be with PT, the poor fool, and keep moving forward with the new found confidence. Despite what many have said recently, things are looking pretty good for our protagonist here. But, you're playing with fire so don't get burned. Keep hand and confidence, and you may just be snapping out of it. :thumbup:
 
:lmao:

you better have ATM on speed dial so you can get some use out of the room. cause there is NO ####### WAY you're getting any. unless some really awkward finger banging is your idea of crackin'!

and WTF? she's still with the PT? what about all that making it work with you, for realsy this time. or was that BS all along, like everyone here told you it was?

your false bravado is painful to watch. you would still take her back in an INSTANT.

good luck dude

 
Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that.
So, when I knowing trap bet in poker, that's morally wrong? And you know, you're on a football message board - a sport that revels in inflicting violence upon other people.
If that's what you really think I mean then I'm not going to argue with you. You're being obtuse, whether it's deliberate or not.
 
"You're welcome. I know this is tough but you'll get through this. Just rely on your friends, family, and boyfriend. Today showed you can't give me the physical attention I deserve and I'm not just going to be the shoulder your cry on when things go bad. That's what you're boyfriend is supposed to do. So take care Alyssa. Good bye."
Attaboy. Undo everything you worked on the past few weeks.
she kept bombarding me with messages about how she wanted to work things out, but just couldn't stop imagining all the dirty stuff I had been doing with all the girls I had been banging while we were apart. There was even a period where she called 25 times in a day,
She's such a manipulative #####.
but I ignored her and just continued living my life. I had tasted the success of hooking up in Vegas and I knew there were plenty of women that would be attracted to me and what I had to offer.
Quit lieing to yourself. You don't truly think/believe this, or else you wouldn't have set up this ######ed hotel date.
She didn't reply for the longest time, but the pace and the exchanges I knew she wanted to meet. One thing I have learned since being single is to be assertive with women and that they respond when you TELL them what to do...so I texted her:"I'll pick you up tomorrow at 2100 after work. We'll have dinner and then check into a hotel room nearby." She instantly replies: "K"And that's where I'm at right now. Not sure what's gonna happen or why I even agreed to see her again, but I'm prepared for this to be the final "good bye".
:lmao: You keep convincing yourself that you have control of this relationship, but you don't have a say in any of it. Just hurry up and get to the cuckold stories that we all know are coming with the PT.
 
You need to resign from nursing and become the first FBG employee devoted to the FFA. This cannot all be true, but is addictive like crack. I cannot stay away from this thread.

 
You need to resign from nursing and become the first FBG employee devoted to the FFA. This cannot all be true, but is addictive like crack. I cannot stay away from this thread.
Only when it involves Alyssa. I don't care about the rest of his life at all.
 
Regardless of how you rationalize it, 16 is helping someone do exactly what was done to him and it's wrong. Outside of instances where you're defending yourself or others, knowingly doing something that could hurt another individual is wrong and there's no exception to that.
So, when I knowing trap bet in poker, that's morally wrong? And you know, you're on a football message board - a sport that revels in inflicting violence upon other people.
If that's what you really think I mean then I'm not going to argue with you. You're being obtuse, whether it's deliberate or not.
Mean what you say, or say what you mean. I tend not to read people's minds, its rude.
 
You're a GD fool.
This is not new.
LOL. I'm 42 years old and married. I remember being sick about breaking up with a few women but dang, I or anyone I know was never this stupid with a woman. It's like a sickness. I just wish I could be there when 16 is my age to see what he feels about his behavior. I understand he's young but he's not a kid, by all accounts he's a grown ### man. I weep for our country and the ##### men we are producing.
:rolleyes:
 
I ignored it and didn't reply... and I didn't reply for the following two days when she kept bombarding me with messages about how she wanted to work things out, but just couldn't stop imagining all the dirty stuff I had been doing with all the girls I had been banging while we were apart.
I love how she is saying she can't get over all of the people you had sex with while apart she she is the one who cheated. It blows my mind that she is making you out to be the dirty skank.
 
You're a GD fool.
I actually think he did okay. He was assertive, and seems like he is actually in a decent place for a hate-bang of his ex. I think it could be therapeautic for him.
:lmao: Of course you do. No. 16 is Woz circa 2006.

ETA:

Pics in the hotel room or no one is buying it. Blur her face if you have to. Don't ask her if you can take pics...just do it.

We'll b:e: waiting...

 
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You're a GD fool.
I actually think he did okay. He was assertive, and seems like he is actually in a decent place for a hate-bang of his ex. I think it could be therapeautic for him.
:lmao: Of course you do. No. 16 is Woz circa 2006.
Exactly. And if it were me back then in that exact situation, I'd have brought the ex flowers while letting her cry on my shoulder while hoping to brush some side boob. So, in the context of the type of disaster 16 has been, I think his interaction with Alyssa has been as good as reasonably expected. Also, as a guy who has slept with every single ex I've ever had at some points 6 months after the break-up (including the ex, a story I've never shared on here until now) I think it's incredibly cathartic and beneficial. He needs to realize 1) that initial feeling ain't there anymore and 2) he's still "good enough" to nail her.

ETA: That said, you're dead on about the pics. First time in recognizing this chick as a slore.

 
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You're a GD fool.
I actually think he did okay. He was assertive, and seems like he is actually in a decent place for a hate-bang of his ex. I think it could be therapeautic for him.
:lmao: Of course you do. No. 16 is Woz circa 2006.
Also, as a guy who has slept with every single ex I've ever had at some points 6 months after the break-up (including the ex, a story I've never shared on here until now) I think it's incredibly cathartic and beneficial. He needs to realize 1) that initial feeling ain't there anymore and 2) he's still "good enough" to nail her.
And still haven't.
 

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