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[The Z Machine]

... She's a Filipina chick. Fashion design student, who is a dancer (I couldn't keep up with her dance moves), and can actually sing (had her sing for me). She's more cute than beautiful or hot, but I'm attracted to her personality. I really dig the creative/artsy types. Anyways we dance, I offer her a drink but she gave it up for Lent. We continue to dance/talk for a bit (2 beers on my timeline). Eventually, I tell her we should exchange numbers so we can hang out again. She agrees and gives me her number. In what is possibly a "FAIL" move I asked her what next week looked like for her and she said she was "busy." It might be legitimate, since she told me she just got out of a long relationship and just now has been getting back into dancing and choir to keep herself busy. It might be more games. We did continue dancing and talking for the rest of the night until the lounge closed. So what's the play here?

Too religious, she'll tease you and maybe a BJ, but that's all. Move on.

 

[No. 16]

Stop asking girls to "hang out". And you need to stop ignoring the FFA and man up and take a big girl home THE NIGHT YOU MEET HER. You've got to break this slump. Otherwise, you're the pitiful guy asking girls to hangout.

So you ask a girl to "go out for drinks" instead? Hang out is too vague? What exactly about hanging out is the fail?

 

[gianmarco]

Stop asking girls to "hang out". And you need to stop ignoring the FFA and man up and take a big girl home THE NIGHT YOU MEET HER. You've got to break this slump. Otherwise, you're the pitiful guy asking girls to hangout.

So you ask a girl to "go out for drinks" instead? Hang out is too vague? What exactly about hanging out is the fail?

Have a specific plan. Take charge. Any guy can ask a girl to "hang out". If they say no, oh, no big deal. Women, despite what it may seem, like for guys to just take charge. "I'd like to take you out to this great Sushi place next Thursday" or "I'm going out for drinks at this bar next Friday and would love for you to join me". If she says "no", then she's not interested. If she says "I can't that night, but how about we plan for another time", then you're golden. Asking her vaguely to hang out at some nebulous time in the future looks weak and will fail unless you're already in for sure.

 

[flranger]

Ask her if she'd like to split a six pack and go watch a movie on demand at the house.

It doesn't always work, but if she says sure it's guaranteed.

 

[No. 16]

Starting to read The Game by Neil Strauss and have read some of the marriedmansexlife blog that Getzalf recommended. I have tons to learn and just from the parts of the marriedmansexlife blog I read.... it describes EXACTLY why my last relationship fizzled. I was Mr. Nice Guy all the time. That's why I became "boring" and "non-spontaneous" to her. Next time I won't make the same mistakes but she's still a whore for never even telling me things were bad to begin with.

Also went to a house party last night for my old co-workers at the restaurant. One of the waitresses that always dug me was making it apperent she wanted to a relationship with me now that I'm single. Thing is I KNOW she wants a relationship, and I would feel bad just tapping that for the sake of tapping it. Plus she doesn't drive so in about a month from now no chance if botty calls.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Starting to read The Game by Neil Strauss and have read some of the marriedmansexlife blog that Getzalf recommended. I have tons to learn and just from the parts of the marriedmansexlife blog I read.... it describes EXACTLY why my last relationship fizzled. I was Mr. Nice Guy all the time. That's why I became "boring" and "non-spontaneous" to her. Next time I won't make the same mistakes but she's still a whore for never even telling me things were bad to begin with.

Also went to a house party last night for my old co-workers at the restaurant. One of the waitresses that always dug me was making it apperent she wanted to a relationship with me now that I'm single. Thing is I KNOW she wants a relationship, and I would feel bad just tapping that for the sake of tapping it. Plus she doesn't drive so in about a month from now no chance if botty calls.

you define the fail, yet you perpetuate it. Go #### a big girl.

 

[No. 16]

Starting to read The Game by Neil Strauss and have read some of the marriedmansexlife blog that Getzalf recommended. I have tons to learn and just from the parts of the marriedmansexlife blog I read.... it describes EXACTLY why my last relationship fizzled. I was Mr. Nice Guy all the time. That's why I became "boring" and "non-spontaneous" to her. Next time I won't make the same mistakes but she's still a whore for never even telling me things were bad to begin with.

Also went to a house party last night for my old co-workers at the restaurant. One of the waitresses that always dug me was making it apperent she wanted to a relationship with me now that I'm single. Thing is I KNOW she wants a relationship, and I would feel bad just tapping that for the sake of tapping it. Plus she doesn't drive so in about a month from now no chance if botty calls.

you define the fail, yet you perpetuate it. Go #### a big girl.

Haha. I don't have to be an ### either. She's a friend. With that said I'm entertaining her advances and we'll see where it goes.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

It's better to move forward even if it's a bit awkward at times. You're making a few missteps but nothing too massive. You're doing fine.

Just keep stashing the digits. Keep your pipeline full. More women. More women. And more women. You'll hit your stride soon enough and find whatever style your game is going to consist of. Just get more women lined up. I'm not saying lie to any of them. But you should be squeezing in 3 "dates" a week. That's with 3 different women. Do that for 1 week. Make that your goal - three women, three nights out, all in one week. And from what you've described about everything, dates seems to be the angle you need to take (but no dinners!). I'm not sure if straight from the bars to your place is going to be a regular page in your playbook. No shame in that. It's not really an area of my expertise either and I've done just fine.

 

[Zegras11]

Starting to read The Game by Neil Strauss and have read some of the marriedmansexlife blog that Getzalf recommended. I have tons to learn and just from the parts of the marriedmansexlife blog I read.... it describes EXACTLY why my last relationship fizzled. I was Mr. Nice Guy all the time. That's why I became "boring" and "non-spontaneous" to her. Next time I won't make the same mistakes but she's still a whore for never even telling me things were bad to begin with.

Also went to a house party last night for my old co-workers at the restaurant. One of the waitresses that always dug me was making it apperent she wanted to a relationship with me now that I'm single. Thing is I KNOW she wants a relationship, and I would feel bad just tapping that for the sake of tapping it. Plus she doesn't drive so in about a month from now no chance if botty calls.

Get his first book from last year also. It's That book literally saved my marriage. I stepped up, and about 8 months later passed my wife in rank, and then progressed to the ultimatum point and on the day before I was going the route of "Bogart", and was finally 100% fine with it, she found a clue that I was going to leave. We talked 8 hours the next day. She's dealing with her own issues the past few months now. We're even rank now and I never even have to ask now and its 2-3x more per week. Tile City.

Don't ask! Just tell her what you're going to do. They eat it up. After you do this for a month, your confidence will go through the roof.

And many thanks to Bogart for sharing what he went through. Even though his didn't work out, I KNOW his life is better now.

 

[Rick James]

Starting to read The Game by Neil Strauss and have read some of the marriedmansexlife blog that Getzalf recommended. I have tons to learn and just from the parts of the marriedmansexlife blog I read.... it describes EXACTLY why my last relationship fizzled. I was Mr. Nice Guy all the time. That's why I became "boring" and "non-spontaneous" to her. Next time I won't make the same mistakes but she's still a whore for never even telling me things were bad to begin with.

Also went to a house party last night for my old co-workers at the restaurant. One of the waitresses that always dug me was making it apperent she wanted to a relationship with me now that I'm single. Thing is I KNOW she wants a relationship, and I would feel bad just tapping that for the sake of tapping it. Plus she doesn't drive so in about a month from now no chance if botty calls.

Get his first book from last year also. It's That book literally saved my marriage. I stepped up, and about 8 months later passed my wife in rank, and then progressed to the ultimatum point and on the day before I was going the route of "Bogart", and was finally 100% fine with it, she found a clue that I was going to leave. We talked 8 hours the next day. She's dealing with her own issues the past few months now. We're even rank now and I never even have to ask now and its 2-3x more per week. Tile City.

Don't ask! Just tell her what you're going to do. They eat it up. After you do this for a month, your confidence will go through the roof.

And many thanks to Bogart for sharing what he went through. Even though his didn't work out, I KNOW his life is better now.

Which book?

 

[Zow]

It's better to move forward even if it's a bit awkward at times. You're making a few missteps but nothing too massive. You're doing fine. Just keep stashing the digits. Keep your pipeline full. More women. More women. And more women. You'll hit your stride soon enough and find whatever style your game is going to consist of. Just get more women lined up. I'm not saying lie to any of them. But you should be squeezing in 3 "dates" a week. That's with 3 different women. Do that for 1 week. Make that your goal - three women, three nights out, all in one week. And from what you've described about everything, dates seems to be the angle you need to take (but no dinners!). I'm not sure if straight from the bars to your place is going to be a regular page in your playbook. No shame in that. It's not really an area of my expertise either and I've done just fine.

Follow Dr's advice. You need some time to just mess around for awhile. Don't try to rush anything and don't anticipate something before it happens (like you're doing with your co-worker). Just relax, don't lie to girls (you shouldn't have to, even good girls want some random sex sometimes), and keep as many options open as you can. It'll be a fun time and down the line, without even trying for it, you'll meet your next gf.

 

[Zow]

Messaged cute nursing student around 2030."Wanted to ask you at work, but things got crazy. Call me and we should hang out sometime."Still no reply....

Fail

Fail how? Is it the greatest line ever? No, but he went for it and was confident and to the point.

 

[Zow]

"Wanted to ask you at work, but things got crazy. Call me and we should hang out sometime."

Wanted to ask you at work, but things got crazy.

This is telling her that #1 - you are a big ##### (female anatomy), #2 - you cannot effectively manage your work, and #3 - you make lame excuses for not being able to talk to her.

Call me and we should hang out sometime.

This again is telling her that you are indecisive and a big ##### because you are unable to call her, you cannot just come out and ask her if she would like to go out sometime, and "hang out" lacks any creativity, initiative, or excitement.You really need to work on your skills son. You are really not giving women a whole lot to look forward to if this is all you got. You need to ask her if she would like to go out, have a specific date and time, and have a specific plan. If she says "yes", great! If she says "no", then say "thanks" and move on.

1. Obviously you've never worked in a higher-paced medical field. 2. They work together so this isn't some cold request. It was direct enough to not be desparate. Granted, he could have said some less general like "let's get happy hour this Tuesday" but having the specific plan is desparate IMO. Nonetheless, she already knows him and has already decided if she is interested so she'll respond (or not respond if she isn't interested) accordingly. Hardly a fail.

 

[Zow]

So when are we getting ?????

Seriously. Must a been a wildebeest.

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing. No. 16, speaking from experience here: post the damn pictures. It'll make you feel better. Seriously.

 

[Zegras11]

Starting to read The Game by Neil Strauss and have read some of the marriedmansexlife blog that Getzalf recommended. I have tons to learn and just from the parts of the marriedmansexlife blog I read.... it describes EXACTLY why my last relationship fizzled. I was Mr. Nice Guy all the time. That's why I became "boring" and "non-spontaneous" to her. Next time I won't make the same mistakes but she's still a whore for never even telling me things were bad to begin with.

Also went to a house party last night for my old co-workers at the restaurant. One of the waitresses that always dug me was making it apperent she wanted to a relationship with me now that I'm single. Thing is I KNOW she wants a relationship, and I would feel bad just tapping that for the sake of tapping it. Plus she doesn't drive so in about a month from now no chance if botty calls.

Get his first book from last year also. It's That book literally saved my marriage. I stepped up, and about 8 months later passed my wife in rank, and then progressed to the ultimatum point and on the day before I was going the route of "Bogart", and was finally 100% fine with it, she found a clue that I was going to leave. We talked 8 hours the next day. She's dealing with her own issues the past few months now. We're even rank now and I never even have to ask now and its 2-3x more per week. Tile City.

Don't ask! Just tell her what you're going to do. They eat it up. After you do this for a month, your confidence will go through the roof.

And many thanks to Bogart for sharing what he went through. Even though his didn't work out, I KNOW his life is better now.

Which book?

This one

 

[Gr00vus]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

 

[Zegras11]

And still no reply?

Bucky.... we need an update in the IDate thread from you. Based on that thread, you'd be the last person that should be demanding a reply here or suggesting advice.

 

[Zow]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Eh, I give him some length there as that's a position we have all been in. I don't think it's a good idea to ever directly ask the "do you have a boyfriend" question because, IMO, it seems weak*. If he was talking and dancing with her that long, and had his hand on her back, I think it's then on her to break the news to him sooner than she did. It happens though and he should consider the fact that he got a taken chick to show so much interest in him for as long as he did. Props there. *One trick I learned to use to find out quickly whether a girl had a bf without directly asking her was to follow up either a straight compliment or a joking complimentary "neg" with a line along the lines "I'm sure your boyfriend digs that." Perfect opportunity to either confirm or correct your assumption. It also subliminally compliments her because, in a girl's mind, having a significant other is indicative of one's value.

 

[Zow]

And still no reply?

Bucky.... we need an update in the IDate thread from you. Based on that thread, you'd be the last person that should be demanding a reply here or suggesting advice.

Eharmony was a waste of time. 0 dates in three months. 90% of the girls I was matched with weren't active in over 2 weeks. I was already talking to a girl before I started that and things are moving along nicely. I'm meeting the parents in a couple weeks.

Do you live in an actual city? If so, you musta been doing something wrong because eharmony was the easiest and best means I've ever experienced to get girls.

 

[Zegras11]

And still no reply?

Bucky.... we need an update in the IDate thread from you. Based on that thread, you'd be the last person that should be demanding a reply here or suggesting advice.

Eharmony was a waste of time. 0 dates in three months. 90% of the girls I was matched with weren't active in over 2 weeks. I was already talking to a girl before I started that and things are moving along nicely. I'm meeting the parents in a couple weeks.

We need pics of her and the parents. Anyone can write what you wrote.

 

[Zow]

And still no reply?

Bucky.... we need an update in the IDate thread from you. Based on that thread, you'd be the last person that should be demanding a reply here or suggesting advice.

Eharmony was a waste of time. 0 dates in three months. 90% of the girls I was matched with weren't active in over 2 weeks. I was already talking to a girl before I started that and things are moving along nicely. I'm meeting the parents in a couple weeks.

Do you live in an actual city? If so, you musta been doing something wrong because eharmony was the easiest and best means I've ever experienced to get girls.

L.A. I thought it was because I had no game. I went back a week later to look at each person I sent questions to and found that they hadn't been online in over two weeks. The ones that did "view" my profile were

Wow. I did it in the Phoenix area and had ten dates ten nights in a row and easily coulda kept it going but I got tired and broke. All the chicks were pretty cool too. Shocked LA would be any different.

 

[jamny]

Starting to read The Game by Neil Strauss and have read some of the marriedmansexlife blog that Getzalf recommended. I have tons to learn and just from the parts of the marriedmansexlife blog I read.... it describes EXACTLY why my last relationship fizzled. I was Mr. Nice Guy all the time. That's why I became "boring" and "non-spontaneous" to her. Next time I won't make the same mistakes but she's still a whore for never even telling me things were bad to begin with.

Also went to a house party last night for my old co-workers at the restaurant. One of the waitresses that always dug me was making it apperent she wanted to a relationship with me now that I'm single. Thing is I KNOW she wants a relationship, and I would feel bad just tapping that for the sake of tapping it. Plus she doesn't drive so in about a month from now no chance if botty calls.

Get his first book from last year also. It's That book literally saved my marriage. I stepped up, and about 8 months later passed my wife in rank, and then progressed to the ultimatum point and on the day before I was going the route of "Bogart", and was finally 100% fine with it, she found a clue that I was going to leave. We talked 8 hours the next day. She's dealing with her own issues the past few months now. We're even rank now and I never even have to ask now and its 2-3x more per week. Tile City.

Don't ask! Just tell her what you're going to do. They eat it up. After you do this for a month, your confidence will go through the roof.

And many thanks to Bogart for sharing what he went through. Even though his didn't work out, I KNOW his life is better now.

Which book?

This one

Interesting blog. Might pick up the bookSeems like even those in a good relationship can kick it up to "great" with some of his advice. I learned a couple of things just from the blog.

 

[No. 16]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

 

[Rick James]

Hey guys, no one gives 16 any advice until he posts a pic.

 

[Gr00vus]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

Understood. I'm just saying you need to work on your game to get that info earlier in the process. See Woz's tip above for an example. Collect other such approaches (probably some folks around here have their tried and true methods) to employ.

 

[sbonomo]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

 

[Ray Karpis]

Starting to read The Game by Neil Strauss and have read some of the marriedmansexlife blog that Getzalf recommended. I have tons to learn and just from the parts of the marriedmansexlife blog I read.... it describes EXACTLY why my last relationship fizzled. I was Mr. Nice Guy all the time. That's why I became "boring" and "non-spontaneous" to her. Next time I won't make the same mistakes but she's still a whore for never even telling me things were bad to begin with.

Also went to a house party last night for my old co-workers at the restaurant. One of the waitresses that always dug me was making it apperent she wanted to a relationship with me now that I'm single. Thing is I KNOW she wants a relationship, and I would feel bad just tapping that for the sake of tapping it. Plus she doesn't drive so in about a month from now no chance if botty calls.

Get his first book from last year also. It's That book literally saved my marriage. I stepped up, and about 8 months later passed my wife in rank, and then progressed to the ultimatum point and on the day before I was going the route of "Bogart", and was finally 100% fine with it, she found a clue that I was going to leave. We talked 8 hours the next day. She's dealing with her own issues the past few months now. We're even rank now and I never even have to ask now and its 2-3x more per week. Tile City.

Don't ask! Just tell her what you're going to do. They eat it up. After you do this for a month, your confidence will go through the roof.

And many thanks to Bogart for sharing what he went through. Even though his didn't work out, I KNOW his life is better now.

Which book?

This one

Interesting blog. Might pick up the bookSeems like even those in a good relationship can kick it up to "great" with some of his advice. I learned a couple of things just from the blog.

I'll vouch for the book. Good stuff. I read it last year, put it to work, and had a noticeable positive response from my wife. I need to go back to it.

 

[Zow]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

bumped and grinded. "To the window, to the wall!"

 

[No. 16]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

Basically we did that, until we we squatting on the floor. It's like dance limbo.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'm only 39, but this thread makes me feel thirty years older than that. I need to find some kids who I can tell to get off my lawn.

 

[nysportsfan]

STILL no pictures?

 

[Rick James]

STILL no pictures?

Hey guys, no one gives 16 any advice until he posts a pic.

 

[Maude]

STILL no pictures?

Hey guys, no one gives 16 any advice until he posts a pic.

He doesn't follow any of the advice he is given anyway.

 

[The Doctor]

wow buncha rookies up in this thread

 

[James Daulton]

I'm only 39, but this thread makes me feel thirty years older than that. I need to find some kids who I can tell to get off my lawn.

I thought that whole dancing thing didn't really happen? Well, maybe on Jersey Shore, but that's it.

 

[The Doctor]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

do you watch taht video and take notes? LOL

 

[comfortably numb]

STILL no pictures?

Hey guys, no one gives 16 any advice until he posts a pic.

He doesn't follow any of the advice he is given anyway.

In that case....DO NOT POST ANY PICS No. 16!!!Would be totally wrong.

 

[eoMMan]

Post a video of you dancing. Maybe that's the problem.

 

[kentric]

STILL no pictures?

Hey guys, no one gives 16 any advice until he posts a pic.

He doesn't follow any of the advice he is given anyway.

 

[No. 16]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

Nope been dancing like that since we partied at 16 and up clubs in Mountain View. I can't do any other type of dancing, but I can grind and body roll with the best of them. It's my one advantage when I go out to clubs... I'm willing to dance and not half bad at it.

 

[boots11234]

STILL no pictures?

Hey guys, no one gives 16 any advice until he posts a pic.

He doesn't follow any of the advice he is given anyway.

Hey guys, everyone give 16 advice until he posts a pic.

 

[Wrigley]

You should go back to your ex, and DO NOT post any pictures.

 

[36th Chamber]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

 

[jamny]

Starting to read The Game by Neil Strauss and have read some of the marriedmansexlife blog that Getzalf recommended. I have tons to learn and just from the parts of the marriedmansexlife blog I read.... it describes EXACTLY why my last relationship fizzled. I was Mr. Nice Guy all the time. That's why I became "boring" and "non-spontaneous" to her. Next time I won't make the same mistakes but she's still a whore for never even telling me things were bad to begin with.

Also went to a house party last night for my old co-workers at the restaurant. One of the waitresses that always dug me was making it apperent she wanted to a relationship with me now that I'm single. Thing is I KNOW she wants a relationship, and I would feel bad just tapping that for the sake of tapping it. Plus she doesn't drive so in about a month from now no chance if botty calls.

Get his first book from last year also. It's That book literally saved my marriage. I stepped up, and about 8 months later passed my wife in rank, and then progressed to the ultimatum point and on the day before I was going the route of "Bogart", and was finally 100% fine with it, she found a clue that I was going to leave. We talked 8 hours the next day. She's dealing with her own issues the past few months now. We're even rank now and I never even have to ask now and its 2-3x more per week. Tile City.

Don't ask! Just tell her what you're going to do. They eat it up. After you do this for a month, your confidence will go through the roof.

And many thanks to Bogart for sharing what he went through. Even though his didn't work out, I KNOW his life is better now.

Which book?

This one

Interesting blog. Might pick up the bookSeems like even those in a good relationship can kick it up to "great" with some of his advice. I learned a couple of things just from the blog.

I'll vouch for the book. Good stuff. I read it last year, put it to work, and had a noticeable positive response from my wife. I need to go back to it.

Downloaded the book yesterday and just finished it. Lots of good info in it. Many of the little things I do already but I'd say we are evenly ranked. Plenty of other advice that I can do to bump up my rank over her, especially just to be more active in being the decision maker. Looking forward to seeing how it works out.

 

[No. 16]

Starting to read The Game by Neil Strauss and have read some of the marriedmansexlife blog that Getzalf recommended. I have tons to learn and just from the parts of the marriedmansexlife blog I read.... it describes EXACTLY why my last relationship fizzled. I was Mr. Nice Guy all the time. That's why I became "boring" and "non-spontaneous" to her. Next time I won't make the same mistakes but she's still a whore for never even telling me things were bad to begin with.

Also went to a house party last night for my old co-workers at the restaurant. One of the waitresses that always dug me was making it apperent she wanted to a relationship with me now that I'm single. Thing is I KNOW she wants a relationship, and I would feel bad just tapping that for the sake of tapping it. Plus she doesn't drive so in about a month from now no chance if botty calls.

Get his first book from last year also. It's That book literally saved my marriage. I stepped up, and about 8 months later passed my wife in rank, and then progressed to the ultimatum point and on the day before I was going the route of "Bogart", and was finally 100% fine with it, she found a clue that I was going to leave. We talked 8 hours the next day. She's dealing with her own issues the past few months now. We're even rank now and I never even have to ask now and its 2-3x more per week. Tile City.

Don't ask! Just tell her what you're going to do. They eat it up. After you do this for a month, your confidence will go through the roof.

And many thanks to Bogart for sharing what he went through. Even though his didn't work out, I KNOW his life is better now.

Which book?

This one

Interesting blog. Might pick up the bookSeems like even those in a good relationship can kick it up to "great" with some of his advice. I learned a couple of things just from the blog.

I'll vouch for the book. Good stuff. I read it last year, put it to work, and had a noticeable positive response from my wife. I need to go back to it.

Downloaded the book yesterday and just finished it. Lots of good info in it. Many of the little things I do already but I'd say we are evenly ranked. Plenty of other advice that I can do to bump up my rank over her, especially just to be more active in being the decision maker. Looking forward to seeing how it works out.

Yah reading it I can see why she's with the "personal trainer" now even if everyone thinks he's a loser. I was too beta in the relationship always up to what she wanted to do, I stopped working out, and she makes good money herself so she didn't need me financially. Wish she would have verbalized her unhappiness, but like the book says it's more subconcious. I haven't finished it yet, but major props to Getzalf for recommending it. Will defintely make sure my next relationship is awesome. Can never get complacent with yourself or your SO will become "bored". Nothing wrong with that message.

The one sad part about it is makes relationships/attraction seem so based on "biologoy" / "primal instinct". That there is no control either man or woman have. It's probably the truth, but in a way it takes the "romance"/"sense of control" away.

 

[No. 16]

Yeah, the only real fail I'm seeing the last couple of pages is the not posting pictures thing.

He should have cut to the chase with the chick with the boyfriend sooner. Learn not to waste your time on dead ends No.16.

Once I found out she had a BF, I cut ties. I mean this was after some serious dancing on the dance floor, where we "got low."

I must be really old...I have no idea what this means.

How dare you laugh at my grinding and body roll skills!

 

[jamny]

Which book?

This one

Interesting blog. Might pick up the bookSeems like even those in a good relationship can kick it up to "great" with some of his advice. I learned a couple of things just from the blog.

I'll vouch for the book. Good stuff. I read it last year, put it to work, and had a noticeable positive response from my wife. I need to go back to it.

Downloaded the book yesterday and just finished it. Lots of good info in it. Many of the little things I do already but I'd say we are evenly ranked. Plenty of other advice that I can do to bump up my rank over her, especially just to be more active in being the decision maker. Looking forward to seeing how it works out.

Yah reading it I can see why she's with the "personal trainer" now even if everyone thinks he's a loser. I was too beta in the relationship always up to what she wanted to do, I stopped working out, and she makes good money herself so she didn't need me financially. Wish she would have verbalized her unhappiness, but like the book says it's more subconcious. I haven't finished it yet, but major props to Getzalf for recommending it. Will defintely make sure my next relationship is awesome. Can never get complacent with yourself or your SO will become "bored". Nothing wrong with that message.

The one sad part about it is makes relationships/attraction seem so based on "biologoy" / "primal instinct". That there is no control either man or woman have. It's probably the truth, but in a way it takes the "romance"/"sense of control" away.

I get the whole part about the biology of it all and it's good to know but it's more background info to me. Almost everything he said in the book were things I used to do. I was always Alpha without knowing terminology and rankings. It should be the foundation of any relationship, imo. I've seen so many friends make big mistakes early on in relationships that only lead to problems later on. Hiding who they really are. My problem is that after 18 years of marriage, I have settled back a bit to even rank. The book was just a good kick to remind me how things used to be and to get back to that.

 

[EYLive]

Mountain View. My buddy grew up there. It's like 90% asian engineers and computer nerds, right? He showed me his high school year book and they had like 2 black kids in his graduating class. It's like the twilight zone over there.

 

[No. 16]

Mountain View. My buddy grew up there. It's like 90% asian engineers and computer nerds, right? He showed me his high school year book and they had like 2 black kids in his graduating class. It's like the twilight zone over there.

Yep pretty much. Downtown Mountain View is the place to party for anyone 18 or under in the Bay Area. Once you get to 18-20 you have some options in the City.

 

[Zegras11]

Which book?

This one

Interesting blog. Might pick up the bookSeems like even those in a good relationship can kick it up to "great" with some of his advice. I learned a couple of things just from the blog.

I'll vouch for the book. Good stuff. I read it last year, put it to work, and had a noticeable positive response from my wife. I need to go back to it.

Downloaded the book yesterday and just finished it. Lots of good info in it. Many of the little things I do already but I'd say we are evenly ranked. Plenty of other advice that I can do to bump up my rank over her, especially just to be more active in being the decision maker. Looking forward to seeing how it works out.

Yah reading it I can see why she's with the "personal trainer" now even if everyone thinks he's a loser. I was too beta in the relationship always up to what she wanted to do, I stopped working out, and she makes good money herself so she didn't need me financially. Wish she would have verbalized her unhappiness, but like the book says it's more subconcious. I haven't finished it yet, but major props to Getzalf for recommending it. Will defintely make sure my next relationship is awesome. Can never get complacent with yourself or your SO will become "bored". Nothing wrong with that message.

The one sad part about it is makes relationships/attraction seem so based on "biologoy" / "primal instinct". That there is no control either man or woman have. It's probably the truth, but in a way it takes the "romance"/"sense of control" away.

I get the whole part about the biology of it all and it's good to know but it's more background info to me. Almost everything he said in the book were things I used to do. I was always Alpha without knowing terminology and rankings. It should be the foundation of any relationship, imo. I've seen so many friends make big mistakes early on in relationships that only lead to problems later on. Hiding who they really are. My problem is that after 18 years of marriage, I have settled back a bit to even rank. The book was just a good kick to remind me how things used to be and to get back to that.

That was me also.Having kids and growing a business sidetracked things also.

I'm now solely focused on being the best me, and that has left her with no choice, but to choose being the best she can be because some of the old, manipulative games that played well into being too beta just don't work any more because I don't allow them to.