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I'm quitting the Lions (1 Viewer)
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gregjcross
Footballguy
The Lions simply did not look like they cared last night. I can see why that would drive you to the edge. If life is about seeking happiness, you don't have to be a fan of any single team. Yet, 50 years is a long time and last night is not worth jumping off over, their line was outmatched, their receivers couldnt beat coverage, and so was their coach outsmarted (esp. recalling that goal line play calling)Enjoy the sport overall. Rail against the Lions for failing you as they did last night, but dont abandon them.
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thatguythere
Footballguy
I'll never quit the Lions.
Expectations. That's the problem. Like others have said, don't expect too much and you won't be let down. I know its tough, but that's life.
I didn't really expect much this season when
1. We didn't upgrade our secondary
2. We didn't upgrade our RB's
3. We paid Cliff Avril 10.6 million
I don't know what they were thinking on any of these. There were good FA DB's out there, as well as good FA RB's.
The team also seems to be lacking in leadership and I am unfortunately starting to think some coaching changes (again) will be coming. Too much talent to be playing the way they are.
BobbyLane give it some time, and I say don't do it....our time will come and all the waiting will be worth while.
Expectations. That's the problem. Like others have said, don't expect too much and you won't be let down. I know its tough, but that's life.
I didn't really expect much this season when
1. We didn't upgrade our secondary
2. We didn't upgrade our RB's
3. We paid Cliff Avril 10.6 million
I don't know what they were thinking on any of these. There were good FA DB's out there, as well as good FA RB's.
The team also seems to be lacking in leadership and I am unfortunately starting to think some coaching changes (again) will be coming. Too much talent to be playing the way they are.
BobbyLane give it some time, and I say don't do it....our time will come and all the waiting will be worth while.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Was at that game. I'll probably never go to a SB, so that was pretty special just as a life experience. Spent all morning tailgating, very festive atmosphere, supersonic flyover as we were walking in that about made me crap my pants, Giants scored on their first drive, got a turnover on the ensuing kickoff or Vikings first play from scrimmage, scored another TD, and then it was Mardi Gras time.Ironic seeing a Vikings fan complain, though. Got there four times, and have owned the Lions over the years (10 or 12 straight in the mid-70s).
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
All true, but as the Bills fans know just getting there isn't quite enough.
Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
I still don't get why Kevin Smith has been thrown away. Look at their record with and without him.
Insein
Footballguy
At least your not a Philly fan. There have only been 2 titles from 4 teams in my lifetime and one of them was when I was 1.5 years old. I will say the 2008 world series was the greatest sports experience of my entire life but the glow is already gone from that team. You can say our teams are competitive but that just makes it worse. Either flirting with the title and not sealing the deal or toiling in mediocrity. Too good to get a good draft pick but too bad to ever contend. So many times have we had our hearts broken and we've all swore at one time or another that we were "done." Yet we always come back the next season. Hell usually it only takes an offseason move to get us back. We get excited when Andrew Bynum comes to town.
Point is, even if you say your done, you're not. You'll be right there next week watching and rooting. You'll still be angry but you won't leave. We can't. These are our teams. Till death do us part.
Point is, even if you say your done, you're not. You'll be right there next week watching and rooting. You'll still be angry but you won't leave. We can't. These are our teams. Till death do us part.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Puzzling..Smith is the best RB on the team. LeShoure is a poor mans Ben Ellis.
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mr roboto
Footballguy
This. Plus I wasn't alive during their SB appearances. I think having a very good team and ####ting the bed in the playoffs (about 1/2 of the last 15 years) is more painful than being perennially bad. Part of it is that there's just enough hope to keep you going. It's like your crush throughout high school being just good enough friends that you think 'one of these days I'll get a chance to see her in her bra or catch her at a vulnerable moment and show her just how sweet I am and maybe she'll kiss me!' only to be friend zoned each time. The Lions are the crush who makes it perfectly clear they want nothing to do with your pathetic ###.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
At least you are not a Seattle fan. There was one title in 1979 and that sports team got taken away......other than that you think the 2001 Mariners were awesome because they won a lot of games but lost in the playoffs and you feel like the 2005 Seahawks at least made it to the Superbowl only to lose then you get to hear fans ##### about refs....get over it..loss is a loss. Im a LA Kings fan so it was cool to see them win something......only to have the NHL decide to lock out :(Not sure there has been a more dumped on city than Seattle. Luckily with the Seahawks things are turning around. Hopefully we steal someone's NBA team (even though I hate basketball) & get an NHL team. I would love to steal a team from another city.
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Insein
Footballguy
Seattle has had it pretty bad. Cleveland I think is by far the worst but Philly is right up there. 4 major teams and 2 titles in 30 years. No Stanley Cup Since 1975. No Super Bowls ever, Last NFL Championship 1960. NBA Title 1983. World Series in 2008 is our oasis in the vast desert of Suckitude.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Seattle is another city that deserves an NHL team.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
What kind of fan turns his back on the team he roots for?
Rovers
Footballguy
When I turned my back on the Mets (and few were as rabid a fan as I was) it wasn't just the Mets, it was baseball as well. Having the YES network shoved down my throat and onto my cable bill. The Yankees buying championships. The umpire strike, Glavine saying how we (stupid) fans can't possibly understand the problem millionaire players have, and why they needed to strike, then the capper... the ruination of the history of the sport, all the records, all the mystique, all the honor of being a baseball hall of famer, making Cooperstown meaningless due to steroid use. It was a culmination of things, not to mention how poorly run the Mets franchise has been. Made worse by outrageous ticket prices now. The NFL is the only thing I follow in sports anymore. I could become a soccer fan, but that sport is fatally flawed. Every soccer league is like a baseball minor league until the finally get around to playing the world cup every 4 years when a true world champion can be declared. What does it really mean to win the English Premiership? Best team... in the UK? So what. I can go root for Bud Harrelson's independent league LI Ducks. If they win... so what? What did they win? Nothing. Now... I can understand BL's frustration, I'm a Jets fan. I've always had a couple of other teams I liked, but I know I'll be a Jets fan forever, unless the NFL loses me the way MLB did.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
10K empty seats both nights the Tigers thumped them in the ALCS. Walk ups available. Yankees fans are like spoiled trust fund babies that send their rent bill to daddy (there are amazing number of 20-somethings doing just that in Manhattan).I've maintained my home state allegiance for 13 years. Get email alerts and read the Freep & MLive daily. Never miss a Tigers series or the once/twice a year visit from the Pistons & Red Wings.Observing the 9 major franchises here is comical, especially the G-men and the evil empire in the Bronx. Those fans have no clue how privileged they are.'Rovers said:
Rovers
Footballguy
Well in large part, those seats are empty because they are so over priced it's beyond ridiculous. The average working Joe just cannot afford them. Both Yankee and Giant fans are spoiled brats, no doubt. They think winning is a birthright. Hard to hold a grudge against the G men, the playing field is level and they are one of the best run sport franchises in the world. The Yankees... a different story. Finally, buying players like A-Rod is biting them in the ###. It was sweet to watch them get swept, and now they are old and over the hill. Gonna be a lot of whining Yankee fans the next few years... LMAO.I used to be a big hockey fan too, but that sport turned me off eventually as well. I did have a share of season tix during the Islander cup years, which will always be one of the absolute high points of being a fan in my lifetime... but I started to sour on Hockey when Tiger Williams was allowed to rape and pillage Mike Bossy in the playoffs. Bossy finished that series with two black eyes and a nose that looked like it was broken. Now, the Islanders are going to Brooklyn, but I stopped caring 25 years ago. I was also a Nets fan.... and they went to Jersey. Quit BB then. Having the Jerts still in a shared stadium, playing in another state leaves me with a pretty sour taste. Hey, it's easy to get fed up.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Brooklyn will be humming in a couple of years...
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Agreed on the Giants ownership, one of the best groups in any sport. I've always respected the Mara family, and the Tisch family has been a good partnership for them. They do things the right way.I'm actually blissfully unaware of ticket prices. The firm holds season tickets to the Jets, Knicks, Rangers and Mets (I know, odd mix), plus customers/supplies/vendors comp me all the time, and I reciprocate, but on the company dime. I am very fortunate that I have always worked for firms that view entertainment tickets and club memberships as a cost of doing business.
Rovers
Footballguy
Good news then... take me to a Jets game because I can't afford it!
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Dude, we're kept the last 3 games in house (49ers, Texans, Indy) because none of our clients were interested.Good news then... take me to a Jets game because I can't afford it!
I'll put in a request, no guarantees. I think you saw my Going to MNF thread in the FFA; we're in the SE corner of the end zone, two sections over from Fireman Ed.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I don't know how anybody can afford anything in NYC. Don't you have to make six figures just to be homeless?
Rovers
Footballguy
Whoa, I was kidding... but... heck, I'd go for sure. Haven't been to the new stadium, but I wasn't kidding about not being able to afford those ticket prices. I'm a workin stiff with a tight buget. We can talk about the civil war thread... and football!Dude, we're kept the last 3 games in house (49ers, Texans, Indy) because none of our clients were interested.Good news then... take me to a Jets game because I can't afford it!I'll put in a request, no guarantees. I think you saw my Going to MNF thread in the FFA; we're in the SE corner of the end zone, two sections over from Fireman Ed.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
There are three million apartments (roughly) in NYC. One million free market rent. One million owned as a co-op or a cond
ne millions (actually around 950K) are rent regulated - rent stablilized, rent control, HUD, Mitchell-Lama, et al.ETA: SPAS
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BlueBlazer05
Footballguy
I'm not giving up, but this season has been disheartening to say the least. Only one NFC team has a worse record. Teams have figured out how to defend the Lions offense, while Schwartz and Linehan can't seem to figure how to counter them. The entire team fumbles, commits dumb penalties, messes up assignments, etc.
I'm about done with Pettigrew. Less than 10 yards per catch again, and that's if he even catches the ball. Embarrassing fumble vs. Tennessee where the 6'5", 265-pounder let a DB rip the ball from him. Fumbled twice Monday Night; he was just lucky that the sideline was there both times. I'm not under the impression that his blocking has been all that great either. Even if it was, this isn't 1970, TE's these days need to make plays in the passing game.
Stafford has been terrible, especially when the pocket breaks down. He doesn't have the footwork of a Brady or Peyton to dodge defenders and make accurate throws. He doesn't have the strength of Big Ben to shed defenders. He doesn't have the scrambling ability of Cam, RGIII, Vick, or even guys like Cutler and Sanchez.
The RB's get consistent yardage, which is why they're hovering around 4 yards per carry. The problem is that there's no explosion in the running game. No Lions RB has a run of 20 yards or more. Detroit misses Jahvid Best terribly, but even then, that's more in the pass game than the run game.
The defense has actually held up fairly well, especially when you factor in all the injuries in the secondary. The special teams and offensive blunders make the PPG-allowed numbers look worse than they really are.
I'm about done with Pettigrew. Less than 10 yards per catch again, and that's if he even catches the ball. Embarrassing fumble vs. Tennessee where the 6'5", 265-pounder let a DB rip the ball from him. Fumbled twice Monday Night; he was just lucky that the sideline was there both times. I'm not under the impression that his blocking has been all that great either. Even if it was, this isn't 1970, TE's these days need to make plays in the passing game.
Stafford has been terrible, especially when the pocket breaks down. He doesn't have the footwork of a Brady or Peyton to dodge defenders and make accurate throws. He doesn't have the strength of Big Ben to shed defenders. He doesn't have the scrambling ability of Cam, RGIII, Vick, or even guys like Cutler and Sanchez.
The RB's get consistent yardage, which is why they're hovering around 4 yards per carry. The problem is that there's no explosion in the running game. No Lions RB has a run of 20 yards or more. Detroit misses Jahvid Best terribly, but even then, that's more in the pass game than the run game.
The defense has actually held up fairly well, especially when you factor in all the injuries in the secondary. The special teams and offensive blunders make the PPG-allowed numbers look worse than they really are.
The Kuhn
Footballguy
Because they can't even figure out the Leshoure/Bell split. Both are suitable dump-off options and probably equal to Kevin Smith. Kevin Smith had some lingering injury concerns, but he was productive when he could play. The Lions version of Ryan Mathews if you will.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Hell yeah, will be fun. We'll see what is available. I think Week 12 is probably a no-go (Thanksgiving, will be out on the Island all day), so let's shoot for the Cards or Bolts. No guarantees, and I did use the MNF tix once so the CEO might think I'm in the back of the queue now. But hopefully we can go to one of those.Whoa, I was kidding... but... heck, I'd go for sure. Haven't been to the new stadium, but I wasn't kidding about not being able to afford those ticket prices. I'm a workin stiff with a tight buget. We can talk about the civil war thread... and football!Dude, we're kept the last 3 games in house (49ers, Texans, Indy) because none of our clients were interested.Good news then... take me to a Jets game because I can't afford it!I'll put in a request, no guarantees. I think you saw my Going to MNF thread in the FFA; we're in the SE corner of the end zone, two sections over from Fireman Ed.
Wrigley
Footballguy
Where is Power Monster when we need him?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
A) a reasonable oneB) a weary oneSomehow, I think WCF will survive without me.
attaché case
Footballguy
Cool thread. Lots of great stories up in here.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Haven't read another post...
No you won't - once a Lions fan always a Lions fan! You won't and you can't quit being a Lions fan - ever!!!
Me - a Lions fan since..........1964
No you won't - once a Lions fan always a Lions fan! You won't and you can't quit being a Lions fan - ever!!!
Me - a Lions fan since..........1964
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Indeed. Surprising, in a good way.I've always known TSP has a ton of Lions fans, but it's been great to hear fm former fans or the undeclared allegiance guys as well.Cool thread. Lots of great stories up in here.
kegger
Footballguy
Lived in Michigan all my life.
I've been a "realistic" lions fan forever.
Realistic meaning knowing we have what we have, (and it's never great)
Good info posted in here, I've also been trying to educate people about
Pettigrew for 2 years, the guy has the size and some skill but the lack
of concentration is ridiculous with drops/loosing the ball..
The Defense has been a pleasant surprise this year, better than expected
with the rash of injuries and lack of secondary talent for the most part.
Staffords slow starts are becoming the norm, then all the drops an miscues
by his fellow offensive players just put them in to big a hole to climb out
so we get the big press at or near the end of games. (they should always defer)
But I keep watching with hope they can actually improve some of the bad with good.
I've been a "realistic" lions fan forever.
Realistic meaning knowing we have what we have, (and it's never great)
Good info posted in here, I've also been trying to educate people about
Pettigrew for 2 years, the guy has the size and some skill but the lack
of concentration is ridiculous with drops/loosing the ball..
The Defense has been a pleasant surprise this year, better than expected
with the rash of injuries and lack of secondary talent for the most part.
Staffords slow starts are becoming the norm, then all the drops an miscues
by his fellow offensive players just put them in to big a hole to climb out
so we get the big press at or near the end of games. (they should always defer)
But I keep watching with hope they can actually improve some of the bad with good.
Dude -- I feel your pain. Hang in there.
I'm a lifelong Redskins fan. Grew up watching George Allen and over the Hill gang, followed by some mediocre years with Jack Pardee, etc, followed by some great years with Gibbs, then followed by a long horrible stretch with Dan Snyder at the helm. For the past decade or more, I have seen my enthusiasm for the team wane, and yet, somehow, as much as they keep breaking my heart year after year, I still cannot help but root for them. I suspect you will be the same. I understand that you need to vent -- and you should -- but I suspect you are an "addict" to your hometown sports teams just like I am and will never really break away.
Hey, look on the bright side -- the Detroit Tigers are in the World Series and the Redwings are always good. Compare that to our DC sports fortunes lately -- the Nats tease a great season, then blow a 6-0 lead to the Cardinals for an early playoff exit. Meanwhile, the Caps choke in the playoffs every year. And don't even get me started on the Wizards.
Anyway, enough about my depressing sportslife. Just wanted to say -- feel your pain dude, hang in there. But that said, you might as well face it your addicted to the local team, so take a few weeks off for sure but don't fool yourself you'll be back. That's what makes this game so awesome.
I'm a lifelong Redskins fan. Grew up watching George Allen and over the Hill gang, followed by some mediocre years with Jack Pardee, etc, followed by some great years with Gibbs, then followed by a long horrible stretch with Dan Snyder at the helm. For the past decade or more, I have seen my enthusiasm for the team wane, and yet, somehow, as much as they keep breaking my heart year after year, I still cannot help but root for them. I suspect you will be the same. I understand that you need to vent -- and you should -- but I suspect you are an "addict" to your hometown sports teams just like I am and will never really break away.
Hey, look on the bright side -- the Detroit Tigers are in the World Series and the Redwings are always good. Compare that to our DC sports fortunes lately -- the Nats tease a great season, then blow a 6-0 lead to the Cardinals for an early playoff exit. Meanwhile, the Caps choke in the playoffs every year. And don't even get me started on the Wizards.
Anyway, enough about my depressing sportslife. Just wanted to say -- feel your pain dude, hang in there. But that said, you might as well face it your addicted to the local team, so take a few weeks off for sure but don't fool yourself you'll be back. That's what makes this game so awesome.
Sorry but people saying that getting there and losing sucks more, have no idea about never getting there. It is 100 times worse. I know plenty of Lions fan, some would give their left nut for the Lions to go to the Superbowl, my uncle has already said he would take out a second mortgage to go if they ever made the Superbowl. I am not sure any other fans have it as bad as the Lions do in the NFL. In other sports I am sure there are some, but at least Bills, Seahawk, Vikings fans can say they had a chance. Do people realize that the most recent expansion teams in the NFL have as many or more playoff wins than the Lions? (maybe not the Browns but I don't count them as an expansion team since they were their before)
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Match made in heaven.So close to Orlando. http://marvwonder.bandcamp.com/album/wayne-fontes-musicBucs season ticket holder. Seriously.There's still THIS year.Anyone know what Wayne Fontes is up to?
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
It did look. Little weekend t bernies-ish
SuperGreen
Footballguy
you wanna talk about an exercise in futility and frustration? i've been an LA Clippers fan for 24 yrs...toughen up, buttercup
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
UPDATE
Yeah, pretty sure no one cares.
Teams I am considering becoming a fan of after this season is over:
[*]Buffalo Bills - I've always liked this franchise, was a huge fan of O.J., love their current skill players
[*]Denver Broncos - love this franchise and team since the Orange Crush/Tom Jackson SB team (actually since Floyd Little became a star)
[*]Kansas City Chiefs - love this franchise, great history and roots, but they are a pathetic team right now
[*]New Orleans Saints - love the city, team was pathetic before Brees/Payton, probably 6th on this list
[*]Tampa Bay Buccaneers - I've always liked this franchise and have admired various Bucs
[*]Washington Redskins - love the fans, great history and traditions, and I could see hating the other three division rivals
Pretty sure I'm going to go with one of the AFC teams, but I wanted to think about 3 from each conference.
The 26 I rejected from consideration:
Arizona Cardinals - almost as futile of a franchise as Detroit
Atlanta Falcons - no, I want to be part of a passionate fan base
Baltimore Ravens - I've liked them throughout the Ray Lewis era, but the roots of their existence...ugh
Carolina Panthers - just can't identify with this team; strikes me as a regional team with no concrete identity or connection to an urban area
Chicago Bears - puhleeze
Cincinnati Bengals - wasteland of a city, inept ownership
Cleveland Browns - hopeless
Dallas Cowboys - too damn many bandwagon fans already
Detroit Lions - N/A
Green Bay Packers - puhleeze
Houston Texans - love this franchise and team but I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of a team on the cusp of making the SB
Indianapolis Colts - nothing to do with the franchise today but their roots are distasteful
Jacksonville Jaguars - aw hell no
Miami Dolphins - maybe when I retire
Minnesota Vikings - puhleeze
New England Patriots - too damn many bandwagon fans already
New York Giants - too damn many bandwagon fans already
New York Jets - see Arizona (although I did like the Joe Willie teams)
Oakland Raiders - wish the team were better, they seem so inept as a franchise
Philadelphia Eagles - NFW, fans are too negative
Pittsburgh Steelers - too damn many bandwagon fans already
San Diego Chargers - I have a soft spot for most AFL originals, but not this one
San Francisco 49ers - great history but just not for me (NTTAWWT)
Seattle Seahawks - love that Stadium, great young team, TSP fans who represent are toolish
St. Louis Rams - great baseball town
Tennessee Titans - had they stayed in Houston as the Oilers, maybe
In the end I'll probably just be a fan of the NFL and FF. But it'd be nice to have one team to root for, and it has to be a franchise I have admired or had an affinity for or admire the fan base or players.
As for the Lions, someone at the office ask me about their loss yesterday. I asked that person if they saw any homeless on their way from Penn Station. "Sure, lots" How many? What were they wearing? What did they say to you? That's about how I felt about Detroit losing - apathetic. Barely acknowledged. Meant no more or no less than the Chargers losing to the Bucs. Baby steps.
Yeah, pretty sure no one cares.
Teams I am considering becoming a fan of after this season is over:
[*]Buffalo Bills - I've always liked this franchise, was a huge fan of O.J., love their current skill players
[*]Denver Broncos - love this franchise and team since the Orange Crush/Tom Jackson SB team (actually since Floyd Little became a star)
[*]Kansas City Chiefs - love this franchise, great history and roots, but they are a pathetic team right now
[*]New Orleans Saints - love the city, team was pathetic before Brees/Payton, probably 6th on this list
[*]Tampa Bay Buccaneers - I've always liked this franchise and have admired various Bucs
[*]Washington Redskins - love the fans, great history and traditions, and I could see hating the other three division rivals
Pretty sure I'm going to go with one of the AFC teams, but I wanted to think about 3 from each conference.
The 26 I rejected from consideration:
Arizona Cardinals - almost as futile of a franchise as Detroit
Atlanta Falcons - no, I want to be part of a passionate fan base
Baltimore Ravens - I've liked them throughout the Ray Lewis era, but the roots of their existence...ugh
Carolina Panthers - just can't identify with this team; strikes me as a regional team with no concrete identity or connection to an urban area
Chicago Bears - puhleeze
Cincinnati Bengals - wasteland of a city, inept ownership
Cleveland Browns - hopeless
Dallas Cowboys - too damn many bandwagon fans already
Detroit Lions - N/A
Green Bay Packers - puhleeze
Houston Texans - love this franchise and team but I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of a team on the cusp of making the SB
Indianapolis Colts - nothing to do with the franchise today but their roots are distasteful
Jacksonville Jaguars - aw hell no
Miami Dolphins - maybe when I retire
Minnesota Vikings - puhleeze
New England Patriots - too damn many bandwagon fans already
New York Giants - too damn many bandwagon fans already
New York Jets - see Arizona (although I did like the Joe Willie teams)
Oakland Raiders - wish the team were better, they seem so inept as a franchise
Philadelphia Eagles - NFW, fans are too negative
Pittsburgh Steelers - too damn many bandwagon fans already
San Diego Chargers - I have a soft spot for most AFL originals, but not this one
San Francisco 49ers - great history but just not for me (NTTAWWT)
Seattle Seahawks - love that Stadium, great young team, TSP fans who represent are toolish
St. Louis Rams - great baseball town
Tennessee Titans - had they stayed in Houston as the Oilers, maybe
In the end I'll probably just be a fan of the NFL and FF. But it'd be nice to have one team to root for, and it has to be a franchise I have admired or had an affinity for or admire the fan base or players.
As for the Lions, someone at the office ask me about their loss yesterday. I asked that person if they saw any homeless on their way from Penn Station. "Sure, lots" How many? What were they wearing? What did they say to you? That's about how I felt about Detroit losing - apathetic. Barely acknowledged. Meant no more or no less than the Chargers losing to the Bucs. Baby steps.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Dragon1952
Footballguy
I can't believe the effort (or lack thereof) that the Lions put forth this week. This should have been a very winnable game for them. Totally deplorable.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This is a great post.UPDATE
Yeah, pretty sure no one cares.
Teams I am considering becoming a fan of after this season is over:
[*]Buffalo Bills - I've always liked this franchise, was a huge fan of O.J., love their current skill players
[*]Denver Broncos - love this franchise and team since the Orange Crush/Tom Jackson SB team (actually since Floyd Little became a star)
[*]Kansas City Chiefs - love this franchise, great history and roots, but they are a pathetic team right now
[*]New Orleans Saints - love the city, team was pathetic before Brees/Payton, probably 6th on this list
[*]Tampa Bay Buccaneers - I've always liked this franchise and have admired various Bucs
[*]Washington Redskins - love the fans, great history and traditions, and I could see hating the other three division rivals
Pretty sure I'm going to go with one of the AFC teams, but I wanted to think about 3 from each conference.
The 26 I rejected from consideration:
Arizona Cardinals - almost as futile of a franchise as Detroit
Atlanta Falcons - no, I want to be part of a passionate fan base
Baltimore Ravens - I've liked them throughout the Ray Lewis era, but the roots of their existence...ugh
Carolina Panthers - just can't identify with this team; strikes me as a regional team with no concrete identity or connection to an urban area
Chicago Bears - puhleeze
Cincinnati Bengals - wasteland of a city, inept ownership
Cleveland Browns - hopeless
Dallas Cowboys - too damn many bandwagon fans already
Detroit Lions - N/A
Green Bay Packers - puhleeze
Houston Texans - love this franchise and team but I don't want to jump on the bandwagon of a team on the cusp of making the SB
Indianapolis Colts - nothing to do with the franchise today but their roots are distasteful
Jacksonville Jaguars - aw hell no
Miami Dolphins - maybe when I retire
Minnesota Vikings - puhleeze
New England Patriots - too damn many bandwagon fans already
New York Giants - too damn many bandwagon fans already
New York Jets - see Arizona (although I did like the Joe Willie teams)
Oakland Raiders - wish the team were better, they seem so inept as a franchise
Philadelphia Eagles - NFW, fans are too negative
Pittsburgh Steelers - too damn many bandwagon fans already
San Diego Chargers - I have a soft spot for most AFL originals, but not this one
San Francisco 49ers - great history but just not for me (NTTAWWT)
Seattle Seahawks - love that Stadium, great young team, TSP fans who represent are toolish
St. Louis Rams - great baseball town
Tennessee Titans - had they stayed in Houston as the Oilers, maybe
In the end I'll probably just be a fan of the NFL and FF. But it'd be nice to have one team to root for, and it has to be a franchise I have admired or had an affinity for or admire the fan base or players.
As for the Lions, someone at the office ask me about their loss yesterday. I asked that person if they saw any homeless on their way from Penn Station. "Sure, lots" How many? What were they wearing? What did they say to you? That's about how I felt about Detroit losing - apathetic. Barely acknowledged. Meant no more or no less than the Chargers losing to the Bucs. Baby steps.
You have to be a fan of a team, have to.
As a Saints fan I grew up being well acquainted with the idea that at some point I'd have to start pulling for some other team when the playoffs were nye, because well you gotta pull for somebody (and often against someone). I never had any problem for this because I always - always, and still do - pull for the UNDERDOG. But I never had a problem with sticking by my team, which I always have, and pulling for some other team once mine was out of it, nothing mutually exclusive there.
I pulled for the Broncos often, but since then it's been almost any long suffering franchise whether they have had success more or less since. I'd have to say right now that means in terms of pulling for teams to win championships the Bills, Chiefs, Lions (yes), Jets (hey the fans are great) and Browns. And maybe the Browns especially. The problem here is that these teams like the old Saints seem to have no chance to get anywhere near the Super Bowl.
But hey good things happen: the Steelers, Cards, and Saints are three teams that come to mind who had near 40 years with zero playoff wins... and yet they did it (well, the Cards for all but the last two minutes...).
I'll add this - I like it when northern teams play outdoors, I really think it gives them an advantage. The nature of the Vikes and Lions franchises have changed entirely from the old days when they were outdoor teams. I think they lost something there.
The Lions have their own Curse of the Bambino, though - they have never been able to win since trading away Bobby Layne. Why did they get rid of him and why in all these years have they never found one decent QB (aside from Landry and Munson, and well they weren't very good after all...) who could lead them all the way? - OK, wait: Stafford: why couldn't he do it?
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Hooper31
Footballguy
To be fair, we have one that regularly posts here in the Shark Pool. I think its worth acknowledging that the rest of the Seattle fans here consistently call him on it when he's being at tool.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Long time Vikings fan. Married a doctor in WI, moved to WI, new wife's family has Packer season tickets on the 50 yard line, not so hard to look the other way
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
My CEO grew up a 76ers fan. Got season tix for the Knicks (10th row floor seats) as a wedding gift. Instantly changed allegiance.But I have to say, this switching for marriage is a foreign concept to me. In Michigan, you are born a Wolverine or a Sparty. Nobody roots for both, or switches during adulthood, and if you crossover for marriage, it's understood the house will always be divided on fall Saturdays. And if you marry a Buckeye, you are seriously ####ed up and should probably seek counseling.
mozzy84
Footballguy
Wow as a vikings fan i can't fathom this
