What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

In this thread I rank my favorite Rolling Stones songs: 204-1: Four Musketeers Get Their Ya-Yas Out (1 Viewer)

rockaction said:
Man, wikkid's take on Angie totally informed my view of the song.

Never was a huge fan, just had it explained why.
Click to expand...
Hard to believe, but Jagger never gets enough credit.

There is a reason hetero male concertgoers were saying "i wouldnt kick him out of bed for eating crackers" at the same time they woulda been bashin' sissy heads outside Stonewall, but y'all under50s see him as a poncy ol' weirdo. Freedomfreedomfreedomfreedomfreedom. Mick Jagger was the imp of that voice inside that yearned, churned & burned to be what it wanted to be no matter the cost. And there was cost - in the world the Stones (and i) were born into, if your 2nd cousin was eccentric or your sister had had a dalliance with a ne'er-do-well you could lose out on a job opening or mortgage application. I reallyreallyreally think y'all don't get that. Breaking out had to come from somewhere because this wasn't shouting in a group (tho we did a lot of that), this was believing in yourself enough to risk the course of your life for the revelation of your identity. It is the most political thing the average person will ever do - even now that there's no risk to it - and Jagger was the president of that and the Pied Piper of the generation that trashed the rules that kept folk from being themselves.

That's the talent he had - prancing to centerstage w the unfiltered energy of a 5yo acting something out, then twitching & mugging & kvetchin & kvelling over every syllable and movement. We didn't love him to death because we liked prancing & mugging & kvelling, we loved him because he had the wealth & taste inside him to make us love prancing & mugging & kvelling. The power of the Stones was Jagger's "i'm doing this because i'm doing this", Jonesy & Keef staring you down if you dare to look beyond what Mick is doing, Bill & Charlie just here to read the meter. That's who's backing you in your efforts to do this because you're doing this and that's simply more important than humming a tune with Rocky Raccoon

 
wikkidpissah said:
Hard to believe, but Jagger never gets enough credit.

There is a reason hetero male concertgoers were saying "i wouldnt kick him out of bed for eating crackers" at the same time they woulda been bashin' sissy heads outside Stonewall, but y'all under50s see him as a poncy ol' weirdo. Freedomfreedomfreedomfreedomfreedom. Mick Jagger was the imp of that voice inside that yearned, churned & burned to be what it wanted to be no matter the cost. And there was cost - in the world the Stones (and i) were born into, if your 2nd cousin was eccentric or your sister had had a dalliance with a ne'er-do-well you could lose out on a job opening or mortgage application. I reallyreallyreally think y'all don't get that. Breaking out had to come from somewhere because this wasn't shouting in a group (tho we did a lot of that), this was believing in yourself enough to risk the course of your life for the revelation of your identity. It is the most political thing the average person will ever do - even now that there's no risk to it - and Jagger was the president of that and the Pied Piper of the generation that trashed the rules that kept folk from being themselves.

That's the talent he had - prancing to centerstage w the unfiltered energy of a 5yo acting something out, then twitching & mugging & kvetchin & kvelling over every syllable and movement. We didn't love him to death because we liked prancing & mugging & kvelling, we loved him because he had the wealth & taste inside him to make us love prancing & mugging & kvelling. The power of the Stones was Jagger's "i'm doing this because i'm doing this", Jonesy & Keef staring you down if you dare to look beyond what Mick is doing, Bill & Charlie just here to read the meter. That's who's backing you in your efforts to do this because you're doing this and that's simply more important than humming a tune with Rocky Raccoon
Click to expand...
Problem with this is that The Stones were never backing you. They bailed as soon as things got hot. 

 
wikkidpissah said:
Hard to believe, but Jagger never gets enough credit.

There is a reason hetero male concertgoers were saying "i wouldnt kick him out of bed for eating crackers" at the same time they woulda been bashin' sissy heads outside Stonewall, but y'all under50s see him as a poncy ol' weirdo. Freedomfreedomfreedomfreedomfreedom. Mick Jagger was the imp of that voice inside that yearned, churned & burned to be what it wanted to be no matter the cost. And there was cost - in the world the Stones (and i) were born into, if your 2nd cousin was eccentric or your sister had had a dalliance with a ne'er-do-well you could lose out on a job opening or mortgage application. I reallyreallyreally think y'all don't get that. Breaking out had to come from somewhere because this wasn't shouting in a group (tho we did a lot of that), this was believing in yourself enough to risk the course of your life for the revelation of your identity. It is the most political thing the average person will ever do - even now that there's no risk to it - and Jagger was the president of that and the Pied Piper of the generation that trashed the rules that kept folk from being themselves.

That's the talent he had - prancing to centerstage w the unfiltered energy of a 5yo acting something out, then twitching & mugging & kvetchin & kvelling over every syllable and movement. We didn't love him to death because we liked prancing & mugging & kvelling, we loved him because he had the wealth & taste inside him to make us love prancing & mugging & kvelling. The power of the Stones was Jagger's "i'm doing this because i'm doing this", Jonesy & Keef staring you down if you dare to look beyond what Mick is doing, Bill & Charlie just here to read the meter. That's who's backing you in your efforts to do this because you're doing this and that's simply more important than humming a tune with Rocky Raccoon
Click to expand...
Have a friend who is the last of 'em. Truly. Grew up middle class. Lawyer father. Pressures abound, etc. Good track athlete. Anyway, he grows up and decides, post-college that he was going to be an artist for a living. What will he do? Supremely talented. Decides, of all things, to make balloon animals for a living. Pictorials in Playgirl, FHM, exhibits at MOMA, the whole thing. His gig is doing those balloons for bachelorettes at a drag queen bar in The Lower East Side of Village. You've described his yearnings, his passion, to a "T"

His absolute, hands down, favorite ####### rock n' roller, even for a young 'un?

Mick. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Uruk-Hai said:
I'm glad you liked it. I don't know how you get better performances out of actors than that show did. 
Click to expand...
The acting was outstanding. The slow burn of the show fit the tone of the story perfectly, and that pace allowed the characters to develop throughout the storytelling. All of the characters seemed like real people thanks to the acting and writing. I never felt like the dialogue or story seemed phony or unrealistic. It was an interesting exploration of the human condition.  I wish it had lasted longer.

:hijacked:    Sorry,  Dr. O.   Thanks for doing this thread.  I love The Stones, and there were a few songs in here I had forgotten about, and many I loved revisiting. I may or may not do a top 20 soon. Maybe a top 10. Maybe. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Not a diss. Mick and Keith wanted to be provocative until it got uncomfortable for them when the world they helped create turned ugly.

I don't blame them - they weren't equipped for that responsibility; nor should they have had it on them anyway. But they brought it upon themselves. They weren't the first or the last to think they were revolutionaries and figure out they didn't want to walk that walk.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Not a diss. Mick and Keith wanted to be provocative until it got uncomfortable for them when the world they helped create turned ugly.

I don't blame them - they weren't equipped for that responsibility; nor should they have had it on them anyway. But they brought it upon themselves. They weren't the first or the last to think they were revolutionaries and figure out they didn't want to walk that walk.
Click to expand...
This thread wound up great. I was wondering when somebody would bring this up. I still can't hear the sneering, bourgeois tweaking, charged-up Stones without thinking of Altamont. 

 
rockaction said:
 I still can't hear the sneering, bourgeois tweaking, charged-up Stones without thinking of Altamont. 
Click to expand...
"We're splitting man if those cats don't stop beating everybody up in sight. I want them out of the way, man." ~ Mick Jagger

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Dr. Octopus said:
I agree that Exile is more an album than a collection of songs but most of the songs are excellent.

while I preferred the first act in Can’t You Hear Me Knocking, I think the coda adds to its greatness not detracts from it.

Great comments overall!
Click to expand...
The coda is what really gets me. Every time I listen to it. Would be much less of a song without it. 

 
Dr. Octopus said:
2. Can't You Hear Me Knocking

Year: 1971

US Album: Sticky Fingers

Songwriter: Jagger/Richards

“Yeah, you got satin shoes
Yeah, you got plastic boots
Y'all got cocaine eyes
Yeah, you got speed-freak jive”

Another song that’s identifiable from the first guitar lick.

Keith describing it:

And we get two songs in one, with a coda at the 2:43 mark, that was not part of the song as conceived. Mick Taylor on that:

Bobby Keys knocks this one out of the park as does Taylor with the extended jam.

This is another song whose greatness is enhanced by Keith’s backing vocals which to me as far greater than Mick’s lead vocals on this one.

For those in the New York area rock station WNEW used to run a great television ad featuring an obese man wearing headphones and dancing away to this song at a Bus Stop. It’s heavily involved in pop culture being featured in movies such as Casino, Blow and Spider Man:Homecoming as well as many TV shows.

Just, greatness.
Click to expand...
Some Girls was the first Rolling Stones release that came out in my music buying years. My older brother bought it and raved about it. I liked it, but due to sibling rivalry or whatever, would never admit to my brother how much I liked it. I had to go my own way and adopt The Who as my British Invasion band (Townshend's windmilling guitar licks, Daltrey's vocals, Keith Moon's drumming, Entwistle's bass lines). 

So,I have been lacking in my knowledge of the Rolling Stones catalogue. I obviously knew the big hits, but this thread has introduced me to a few previously unknown tracks. The biggest revelation to me was this song. I have been recently watching Ozark-  Season One on Netflix and this song was used in an episode. I don't recall having heard it before and I have seen every movie you listed above. Not sure how that is possible, but that's the case. It is now my favorite Stones song ever.

Nice job Doc.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Uruk-Hai said:
Not a diss. Mick and Keith wanted to be provocative until it got uncomfortable for them when the world they helped create turned ugly.

I don't blame them - they weren't equipped for that responsibility; nor should they have had it on them anyway. But they brought it upon themselves. They weren't the first or the last to think they were revolutionaries and figure out they didn't want to walk that walk.
Click to expand...


rockaction said:
This thread wound up great. I was wondering when somebody would bring this up. I still can't hear the sneering, bourgeois tweaking, charged-up Stones without thinking of Altamont. 
Click to expand...


simey said:
"We're splitting man it those cats don't stop beating everybody up in sight. I want them out of the way, man." ~ Mick Jagger
Click to expand...
Yeah. Altamont is the first thing I thought of at @Uruk-Hai's post.

In the Stones defense, I don't think society had the Hell's Angels quite figured out at that time. The Angels had rolled with Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters some ... and stomped Hunter S. Thompson - ending his time riding with them, but I think they were still viewed as a hip ally. 

Altamont changed that in a big way. 

My Top 25 list is progressing Doc; I will have something soon. 

 
Man of Constant Sorrow said:
Yeah. Altamont is the first thing I thought of at @Uruk-Hai's post.

In the Stones defense, I don't think society had the Hell's Angels quite figured out at that time. The Angels had rolled with Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters some ... and stomped Hunter S. Thompson - ending his time riding with them, but I think they were still viewed as a hip ally. 

Altamont changed that in a big way.
Click to expand...
Yeah, really. I think those that know my politics will probably guess my take on the Angels in hindsight so I'll spare everybody the personal interpretation, but I think the bystander interpretation of Altamont was best seen through the eyes of Garcia and The Dead in Gimme Shelter. You can tell they never wanted them there, and that stems from their time with them and Kesey. Some stuff went on at La Honda that Tom Wolfe describes, and people had been apologizing for the Angels since those incidents occurred.

Think #metoo moments, only in 1965/66.

 
rockaction said:
Yeah, really. I think those that know my politics will probably guess my take on the Angels in hindsight so I'll spare everybody the personal interpretation, but I think the bystander interpretation of Altamont was best seen through the eyes of Garcia and The Dead in Gimme Shelter. You can tell they never wanted them there, and that stems from their time with them and Kesey. Some stuff went on at La Honda that Tom Wolfe describes, and people had been apologizing for the Angels since those incidents occurred.

Think #metoo moments, only in 1965/66.
Click to expand...
Good points. The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test does a good job of highlighting the odd early relations between hippies and Angels. But, I think Thompson's Hell's Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs does a better and earlier job of warning of the potential.

I know you are not a Hunter fan, but this work is really unlike his later stuff in many ways. 

 
Man of Constant Sorrow said:
Good points. The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test does a good job of highlighting the odd early relations between hippies and Angels. But, I think Thompson's Hell's Angels: The Strange and Terrible Saga of the Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs does a better and earlier job of warning of the potential.

I know you are not a Hunter fan, but this work is really unlike his later stuff in many ways. 
Click to expand...
I've been told to read that Hunter book especially. My friends came away with a newfound appreciation of him. 

 
northern exposure said:
2. Can't You Hear Me Knocking

Year: 1971

US Album: Sticky Fingers

Songwriter: Jagger/Richards

Some Girls was the first Rolling Stones release that came out in my music buying years. My older brother bought it and raved about it. I liked it, but due to sibling rivalry or whatever, would never admit to my brother how much I liked it. I had to go my own way and adopt The Who as my British Invasion band (Townshend's windmilling guitar licks, Daltrey's vocals, Keith Moon's drumming, Entwistle's bass lines). 

The biggest revelation to me was this song.
Click to expand...
This is me in a nutshell. My favorite is also Some Girls. Also like you said, give me the windmilling and lead drumming of the Who, and the songwriting and brazen chops of the Kinks, but really, this is just a great song.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Dr. Octopus said:
I'd be very interested in seeing top 25 (or top 10) lists from those that have participated in or just followed the thread.

Shout out to (forgive me for missing anyone): @ProstheticRGK @wikkidpissah @otb_lifer @Man of Constant Sorrow @rockaction @jwb @Bonzai @shuke @krista4 @simey @Leroy Hoard @neal cassady @Mister CIA @Spock @gump @Uruk-Hai @Big Blue Wrecking Crew @jomar @ffldrew and anyone else that wants to post a list.
Click to expand...
It's hard doing a top 25. I guess my Stones top 25 favorites would go something like this, but other songs could easily move into the top, and the ones that are in it could be moved around.

1. Gimme Shelter

2. Can't You Hear Me Knocking

3. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)

4. Wild Horses

5. You Can't Always Get What You Want

6. Ruby Tuesday

7. Moonlight Mile

8. Play With Fire

9. Under My Thumb

10. Sympathy for the Devil

11. Monkey Man

12. Some Girls

13. Loving Cup

14. Dead Flowers

15. As Tears Go By

16. Angie

17. Sweet Virginia

18. Winter

19. Mother's Little Helper

20. Paint it Black

21. Heart of Stone

22. Let It Bleed

23. She's A Rainbow

24. Beast of Burden

25. Time is On My Side

 
Very nice list @simey😎

Well, I am now going through every f'n Stones album on Spotify ... gah ... I can never make things easy.

The good news ... it is a great catalog.

The bad news ... my top 25 is projecting to be 125.

Hmmm. Maybe I should just do 204. 

We shall see.

 
Great thread.  

Here's my top 10.  

Monkey Man  
Can't You Hear Me Knockin
Gimme Shelter
She's A Rainbow
Wild Horses
You Can't Always Get What You Want
Loving Cup
Rocks Off
Sympathy for the Devil
Happy
 

 
This would change a bunch if I did it again, so here goes.  You could probably call this list radio chalk with some help from DocOc and Wes Anderson and other films.  Holy crap have the past hours of listening reminded me just how versatile the Rolling Stones actually were. 

To wit:

  • I Am Waiting is #14 on this list is solely because of the beautiful melancholy of the scene in Rushmore, described here as the best use of Stones' music in film by Stereogum.
  • Can't You Hear Me Knocking is solely because of Dr. Octopus's ranking, as is Rocks Off. Both soar from a period of the Stones that I'd personally not delved into almost at all
  • Gimme Shelter is higher than I would have originally had it due to the thread participants' anecdotes, the movie discussion, and also the Rolling Stones-as-political discussion.
25) 2000 Man

24) Monkey Man

23) It’s Only Rock N’ Roll

22) Brown Sugar

21) Stray Cat Blues

20) Street Fighting Man

19) Lies

18) Ruby Tuesday

17) Time Is On My Side

16) Shattered

15) Under My Thumb

14) I Am Waiting

13) Tumbling Dice

12) Can’t You Hear Me Knocking

11) She Smiled Sweetly

10) Heart Of Stone

9) She’s A Rainbow

8 - Sympathy For The Devil

7) Gimme Shelter

6) Rocks Off

5) Get Off My Cloud

4) Connection

3) Miss You

2) Paint It, Black

1) Let’s Spend The Night Together

 
Last edited by a moderator:
25. Sweet Black Angel - i joined the Communist Party because of Angela Davis

24. Have You Seen Your Mother Baby? - Stones werent as inventive as the Beatles, but they tried a lot of ####. This is one of those i liked

23. Moonlight Mile - their goodbye to greatness

22.  Lady Jane - Jonesy, man

21. 2000 Light Years From Home - mellotrode, dood

20. Play With Fire - a song changes your outlook, that's big. learning how to be more than nice to girls here

19. 19th Nervous Breakdown - where else you gonna put it

18. (tie) Miss You/Shattered - these girls will always be linked for showing the new genres of disco & punk what fer after they passed their prime

16. (tie) Ruby Tuesday/ Let's Spend the Night Together - now inextricably linked because of my Breakfast @ Tiffany's sequel

14. Get Off My Cloud - teaching the young people how to flip the bird

13. Jumping Jack Flash - the beginning of the epic phase

12. Undercover of the Night - i just frikkin love it

11. Honky Tonk Woman - she blew my nose & then she blew my mind

10. Not Fade Away - THIS was the clarion call for your humble servant

9. Midnight Rambler - the dark night of the soul, man. this plays in my mind whenever i remember something that got too weird

8. Can't Always Get What You Want - like i said, when i put this up against "A Day In the Life", i want change

7. Satisfaction - got some from this

6.  Monkey Man - wagging my tongue has been how i got mosta my stuff and this song set it free

5. Gimme Shelter - the 60s maaaan

4. Can't You Hear Me Knockin' - best guitar song of all time

3. Brown Sugar - best composed rock song of all time

2. Paint It Black - i knew how to make doing wrong feel right, but this song made it a prowl

1. Sympathy For The Devil -  Stairway before Stairway and The War & Peace of Rock & Roll. As me Ma always told me, "Testosterone is the Devil's underpants" but the Stones showed me how to go Commando. nufced

dedicated to Robin Leathe

ETA: and a big THANK YOU to DocOc. you found me some youth again and others some knowledge and did it beautiful  :heart:

 
Last edited by a moderator:
 
wikkidpissah said:
let's see the Beatles try to match that!!
Click to expand...
This is hysterical but to be fair we'd be matching up the classic solo Beatles output to Sticky Fingers, Exile, Goat's Head, Some Girls, Tattoo You - but this does show the Stones were surely greater than the sum of their parts.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
I'd be very interested in seeing top 25 (or top 10) lists from those that have participated in or just followed the thread.

Shout out to (forgive me for missing anyone): @ProstheticRGK @wikkidpissah @otb_lifer @Man of Constant Sorrow @rockaction @jwb @Bonzai @shuke @krista4 @simey @Leroy Hoard @neal cassady @Mister CIA @Spock @gump @Uruk-Hai @Big Blue Wrecking Crew @jomar @ffldrew and anyone else that wants to post a list.
Click to expand...
1- Monkey Man

2 - B!tch

3 - Do Do Do Do Do (Heartbreaker)
4 - She's A Rainbow

5 - When The Whip Comes Down

6- Happy

7 - It's All Over Now

8 - Street Fighting Man

9 - Out Of Time

10 - Emotional Rescue

11 - 2000 Years From Home

12 - The Last Time

13 - Satisfaction

14 - Midnight Rambler

15 - She Was Hot

16 - Shattered

17 - Ruby Tuesday

18 - Gimme Shelter

19 - Time is on My Side

20 - Mother's Little Helper

21 - Tumbling Dice

22 - Angie

23 - Mixed Emotions

24 - Harlem Shuffle

25 - Let It Bleed

I left a lot of the obvious ones out.  

 
Last edited by a moderator:
at some point, I had to stop making changes and this is where I stopped.  I know nothing about music theory or complex arrangements but I have been obsessed with music since as far back as I can remember, taking a 45 of Steve Miller's 'Jet Airliner' to my first kindergarten show and tell.  This was incredibly difficult to just do 25, so props to @Dr. Octopus for doing 204.

here's what I came up with:

25. You Can't Always Get What You Want

24. The Last Time

23. Mother's Little Helper

22. Crazy Mama

21. Under My Thumb

20. Ruby Tuesday

19. Paint It Black

18. It's Not Easy

17. Rocks Off

16. Street Fighting Man

15. Play With Fire

14. Gimme Shelter

13. Can't You Hear Me Knockin'?

12. Mercy Mercy

11. The Spider and The Fly

10. Down The Road A Piece

9. Silver Train

8. Let It Bleed

7. Sympathy For The Devil

6. Tumbling Dice

5. Sweet Virginia

4. 100 Years Ago

3. Dead Flowers

2. Sister Morphine

1. Monkey Man

 
jomar said:
at some point, I had to stop making changes and this is where I stopped.  I know nothing about music theory or complex arrangements but I have been obsessed with music since as far back as I can remember, taking a 45 of Steve Miller's 'Jet Airliner' to my first kindergarten show and tell.  This was incredibly difficult to just do 25, so props to @Dr. Octopus for doing 204.

here's what I came up with:

25. You Can't Always Get What You Want

24. The Last Time

23. Mother's Little Helper

22. Crazy Mama

21. Under My Thumb

20. Ruby Tuesday

19. Paint It Black

18. It's Not Easy

17. Rocks Off

16. Street Fighting Man

15. Play With Fire

14. Gimme Shelter

13. Can't You Hear Me Knockin'?

12. Mercy Mercy

11. The Spider and The Fly

10. Down The Road A Piece

9. Silver Train

8. Let It Bleed

7. Sympathy For The Devil

6. Tumbling Dice

5. Sweet Virginia

4. 100 Years Ago

3. Dead Flowers

2. Sister Morphine

1. Monkey Man
Click to expand...
Great list.

 
BELATED 50 YEAR R.I.P. TO MY MAN JONESY  7/3/69

i released some butterflies in the direction of Hyde Park  :wub:

i loved that cat   :kicksrock:

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

P
Celebrating 50+ years of Progressive Rock with the Top 70 prog songs of the 1970s
2 3 4
Replies
158
Views
4K
Eephus
Eephus
Capella
My dad is dying and I don’t know how to handle it
2 3
Replies
116
Views
3K
Capella
Capella
G
Saintsfan Beatles blog
Replies
8
Views
385
krista4
krista4

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Back
Top