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Sounds like a dream to me to only give up a 2nd rounder for a 1st round QB just this past year.
I don't think Minnesota would give him up for a 2 either. Part of the reason is that if he was in this year's draft there is a good possibility he would be the first QB taken.
Heck, if McCarthy is considered better than any QB in this draft, just give them your first rounder this year. He's at least had a year of classroom work with O'Connell so that is worth something.
Meyers and Bowers more than suitable targets. Go ahead and dream away. Dreams are all the fan base has left. My apologies for trying to inject a little reality into this thread. Carry on.
Valid point. How about two firsts? Or this year's first and a second next year.
JJ is on a rookie deal, keeping him is just good business.
Hey I said it was a dream!Sounds very unrealistic.
Some teams are so QB starved that I dare say, yes, Sanders would still be a 1st round pick.Hey I said it was a dream!Sounds very unrealistic.
However, he's burned a year of the rookie deal and now has an injury he didn't have when drafted that can lead to degenerative conditions. If Shadeur Sanders tears his meniscus at his pro day is he still a 1st round pick?
Hey I said it was a dream!Sounds very unrealistic.
However, he's burned a year of the rookie deal and now has an injury he didn't have when drafted that can lead to degenerative conditions. If Shadeur Sanders tears his meniscus at his pro day is he still a 1st round pick?
I hope that an oline stud is available
Twenty years ago I would have been ok with that. Not now. The NFL has changed and bottom-feeders like the Raiders have no business drafting RB in the first half of the first round. It would be Jacobs all over again.
I say let's see if we get out of him what we got out of Bowers.
I don't necessarily agree, this isn't a pounder like Zeke that we can get an alternative in the 4th and get 90% of the contribution. Jeanty's a great receiver and dynamic talent - look at what Gibbs does for DET or a finally healthy Barkley did for Philly. These guys can create points out of thin air. If he gets us more first downs, keeps our D off the field and fresh, and inevitably puts more points on the board I'm all for it. Bad teams are bad because they have bad players. Adding dynamic players isn't necessarily a wasted effort. The question would be if our staff can maximize his contributions, but if we have that issue then it matters not who we draft.
If the current holds up, yes. My early preferences will be Will Johnson CB, Mason Graham DT, or Abdul Carter DE in that order assuming Hunter and the QB's are gone. Jaxon Dart is my favorite next tier QB and get Treyveon Henderson whenever.
No stud oline in the mix?
Not the same level of elite or impact to the team as a pass rusher/cover corner. Kelvin Banks is the consensus best one but I'd rather the defender that can take over a game.
The chargers would disagree. The raiders have a horrible history taking dbs in the 1st. I have ptsd there. And I think the dline is pretty damn good.
We have a horrible history of a drafting LSU QB's too so it's a good thing we weren't in a position to draft Burrow what a disaster that would be.
do you really want the list of awful dbs?
I'm fully aware of the pain in our past. Our OL picks have sucked. Our LB picks have sucked. Our QB picks have sucked. Our RB picks have sucked. Oh and our WR picks have sucked. Should we avoid drafting all these positions too? By your point you should be loving Will Johnson based on Charles Woodson out of Xichigan.
Assuming the pick is made at #6, any one of Will Johnson, Graham, or Carter would be solid blue chip picks. I also wouldn't mind if it's traded for McCarthy either. Minn would have to consider one of those premium defenders, if they sign Darnold long term.I'm fully aware of the pain in our past. Our OL picks have sucked. Our LB picks have sucked. Our QB picks have sucked. Our RB picks have sucked. Oh and our WR picks have sucked. Should we avoid drafting all these positions too? By your point you should be loving Will Johnson based on Charles Woodson out of Xichigan.
There is zero correlation between what we drafted in the past and how a next draft pick will work out and no one in the NFL is going to make decisions like that.
Do you need a hug bro? I said that I have ptsd regarding dbs in the 1st. Of course the raiders have terrible draft history. They’ve sucked for over 20 years. My preference is Oline. Which means they’ll go another direction. Probably one of the guys you mentioned. We’re all friends here. Sort ofI'm fully aware of the pain in our past. Our OL picks have sucked. Our LB picks have sucked. Our QB picks have sucked. Our RB picks have sucked. Oh and our WR picks have sucked. Should we avoid drafting all these positions too? By your point you should be loving Will Johnson based on Charles Woodson out of Xichigan.
There is zero correlation between what we drafted in the past and how a next draft pick will work out and no one in the NFL is going to make decisions like that.
Just responding to your eyeroll bro.
I was being genuine. My apologies. All the vitriol has been from you. Happy new year.
And eight against non-playoff teams. Six against bottom 10 teams include all 5 of the top 5. If we get a real QB to be competitive with the LAC/DEN/HOU tier that only leaves KCC, PHI, and WAS as "likely loss" projections. We don't commit penalties, we don't turn the ball over, we have a solid DEF that needs to patch a couple of holes.
I admire the optimism and agree a bit because it's so early and so much will change between now and kickoff 2025. But I think it is fair to bet that the Chargers will be improved in year two of the Harbaugh experience and the Broncos will be improved in year two of Bo Nix. I don't see Nix having a CJ Stroud type regression with Payton coaching him up. Not sure what to expect from Houston next year and personally I put Jayden Daniels, perhaps, at the top of my "likely to regress" list in 2025.
Are orbiting the earth in the ISS? are you one of stuck astronauts ?
That is one of the approved angles.
In that division in particular that's a terrible decision IMO if true. He was 5-4 last year, 4-13 this year and was a demonstrably worse coach in 2024. He made some head scratching decisions decision in 2023. In 2024 he had way too many WTH moments. I'm not sure how he corrects on the on field and time management blunders. He's had a bunch of practice by now and hasn't gotten any better.
Or say they go 9-8 and narrowly miss the playoffs with the same pattern of not committing penalties and playing solid defense s and move to a net zero turnovers while coaxing progress out of a new OC and QB.
Don't care one bit about that, it's Davis's money and that wasn't the clown move of firing a guy before his 2nd season was complete.
It's not public that know of but I saw one source that said SIX years $26M. I'd bet anything it's a minimum of three though. 2025 almost certainly not the last year.
