2025 Las Vegas Raiders thread - ☠ Happy trails Derek - one a Raider always a Raider ☠ (18 Viewers)

[Hankmoody]

So our coordinators are in place, and in my mind a home run staff. Carroll is a big picture guy, Graham has the locker room and done very well with limited tools, and Kelly brings some creativity and long history of offensive system success with him. Most of all we dodged the good-ol'-boy bullett and didn't have retreads like Gus Bradley and Darrel Bevell brought in. I don't even think those guys are "bad", I'm just thrilled we avoided the appearance of stink. If these hires stink so be it, but it won't be because we tried to roll back to glory days of the past.

Next up is Free Agency rooting against the Chiefs then Free Agency

 

[ChiefD]

So our coordinators are in place, and in my mind a home run staff. Carroll is a big picture guy, Graham has the locker room and done very well with limited tools, and Kelly brings some creativity and long history of offensive system success with him. Most of all we dodged the good-ol'-boy bullett and didn't have retreads like Gus Bradley and Darrel Bevell brought in. I don't even think those guys are "bad", I'm just thrilled we avoided the appearance of stink. If these hires stink so be it, but it won't be because we tried to roll back to glory days of the past.

Next up is Free Agency rooting against the Chiefs then Free Agency

Agree. So far everything looks really professional there.

The one thing we now know is that the Raiders should be well-coached on both sides of the ball. It will be really interesting to watch the rest of their offseason and see who they add.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I’m intrigued.

Pete Carrol…Chip Kelly…never in a million years would I have predicted those two. Does chip need a mobile qb?

I’ve been burned too many times to be excited but let’s see what happens. I’m really hoping for BPA in the draft and really don’t want to see dangerruss any where near the silver and black.

 

[Hankmoody]

Does chip need a mobile qb?

I think needs is a strong word, but I'm guessing it's a strong preference as that opens up so much of the field. Will Howard didn't really use his legs much, it wasn't necessary, but when he did it was just another thing the defense had to prepare for. I'd guess Kelly is perfectly capable of running an offense with Jared Goff at the helm, it would just change his design focus.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Does chip need a mobile qb?

I think needs is a strong word, but I'm guessing it's a strong preference as that opens up so much of the field. Will Howard didn't really use his legs much, it wasn't necessary, but when he did it was just another thing the defense had to prepare for. I'd guess Kelly is perfectly capable of running an offense with Jared Goff at the helm, it would just change his design focus.

I don’t watch much college so am ignorant on who chip has had at qb over the years. I was ok with fields as a possibility last year qb is such a need it’s crazy.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Pairing Will Howard with Chip again with like your 3rd or 4th round pick seems very wise, maybe even if they take a qb round 1

 

[kaso]

UHas

Does chip need a mobile qb?

I think needs is a strong word, but I'm guessing it's a strong preference as that opens up so much of the field. Will Howard didn't really use his legs much, it wasn't necessary, but when he did it was just another thing the defense had to prepare for. I'd guess Kelly is perfectly capable of running an offense with Jared Goff at the helm, it would just change his design focus.

I don’t watch much college so am ignorant on who chip has had at qb over the years. I was ok with fields as a possibility last year qb is such a need it’s crazy.

For his tenure at UCLA, Chip had the following QBs on the roster (According to an AI response)

From 2018 to 2022, the primary quarterback for UCLA was Dorian Thompson-Robinson. He started in most games during that period.
It appears that in 2023, there were several quarterbacks listed on the roster, including Luke Duncan, Ethan Garbers, Chase Griffin, Justyn Martin, Parker McQuarrie, and Collin Schlee.

 

[LawFitz]

Optimistic Raider
@planetraider

BREAKING #Raiders Land one of the most ELITE offensive minds in the game. Chip Kelly at Offensive Coordinator is as good as it gets in the NFL. He is known for his dynamic up-tempo spread offense. Started using multiple tight ends a TON this year at OSU. Here are some of the key characteristics that puts his offense at the upper echelon in the NFL:

1. No-Huddle, Hurry-Up TempoKelly’s offense is designed to keep defenses on their heels by minimizing time between plays. This prevents defenses from substituting and forces them to stay in base formations.
2. Zone-Read Running GameThe foundation of his run game is the inside and outside zone read, where the quarterback reads a defensive player (usually an edge rusher) to decide whether to hand the ball off or keep it himself.
3. Spread Formation ConceptsKelly uses spread formations (three- or four-wide receiver sets) to stretch the field horizontally, opening up running lanes and quick passing opportunities.
4. RPO (Run-Pass Option) ElementsIncorporating run-pass options allows the quarterback to make post-snap decisions based on defensive alignment, creating a more dynamic offense.
5. Simple Play Calls, Repetitive ExecutionRather than running a huge playbook, Kelly’s offense is based on a small number of plays run from multiple formations, emphasizing execution over complexity.
6. Inside Running Game with Athletic LinemenThe offensive line plays a crucial role in Kelly’s system, often featuring smaller, more athletic linemen who can execute zone-blocking schemes effectively.
7. Quick Passing GameKelly’s passing attack features short, high-percentage throws, screens, and quick slants to keep the offense moving.Over time, his offense has evolved, particularly at UCLA, where he has incorporated more traditional pro-style elements and tight end usage while still maintaining his fast-paced identity.

 

[LawFitz]

Optimistic Raider
@planetraider

Chip Kelly’s ideal quarterback is one who can operate a fast-paced, spread offense while making quick decisions in both the run and pass game. His QBs don’t have to be elite passers, but they must be smart, mobile, and efficient.

Key Traits of a Chip Kelly QB:

1. Mobility (But Not Always a Pure Runner)
•Kelly’s offense has traditionally utilized zone-read concepts, meaning his QB must be able to threaten the defense with his legs (even if he’s not a run-first player).
•His best QBs have had functional mobility rather than being elite runners.
•Examples: Marcus Mariota (Oregon), Dorian Thompson-Robinson (UCLA), Mike Vick (Eagles)

2. Quick Decision-Making
•His offense is tempo-based, so QBs must process defenses rapidly and make quick throws or run decisions.
•They must be able to handle RPO (Run-Pass Option) reads, which are a major part of Kelly’s offense.

3. Accuracy on Short and Intermediate Throws
•Kelly’s passing game is built around high-percentage throws (quick slants, screens, and short outs).
•A QB doesn’t need elite arm strength but must be accurate and efficient.
•Examples: DTR (UCLA), Chip Kelly’s use of Nick Foles

4. Poise and Toughness
•Because Kelly runs a lot of inside zone and QB reads, his QBs must be willing to take hits when necessary.
•They also need mental toughness to handle the fast tempo without making mistakes.

5. Ability to Execute Play-Action and RPOs
•Kelly’s offenses use a lot of play-action concepts and RPOs, so the QB must be comfortable making post-snap reads.

6. Command of the Offense
•The QB must be comfortable in a no-huddle, high-tempo system and be able to orchestrate an offense at a fast pace.

Does Chip Kelly Prefer Dual-Threat QBs?
•Yes, but they don’t have to be run-first.
•His most successful QBs (Marcus Mariota, Dorian Thompson-Robinson) had mobility, but he has also used more traditional passers like Sam Bradford and Nick Foles in the NFL.
•Ideally, Kelly wants a pass-first QB who can extend plays with his legs when needed.

Prototype for a Chip Kelly QB:
•6’0”–6’4”, 200–220 lbs
•Quick processor with accuracy on short/intermediate throws
•Good (not necessarily elite) mobility for zone-reads and extending plays
•Tough and able to handle tempo without making mistakes

At UCLA, he has adjusted to using more traditional pocket passers mixed with mobile QBs, but the emphasis on quick reads, tempo, and efficiency has remained the same.

 

[LawFitz]

Optimistic Raider 
@planetraider
Chip Kelly’s offense thrives with versatile, explosive running backs who can excel in both the zone-running scheme and the quick passing game. His ideal running backs possess the following traits:

1. One-Cut Runners (Zone Scheme Fit)
•Kelly’s offense relies heavily on inside and outside zone runs, meaning the RB needs to make decisive one-cut moves and hit the hole quickly.
•Examples: LaMichael James (Oregon), DeMarco Murray (Eagles), Zach Charbonnet (UCLA)

2. Speed and Burst
•Since Kelly’s offense is fast-paced, RBs must be explosive and capable of breaking long runs.
•They don’t need to be power backs but must have great acceleration and vision.
•Examples: Kenjon Barner (Oregon), Joshua Kelley (UCLA)

3. Pass-Catching Ability
•Kelly uses running backs in the screen game and quick swing passes to attack the perimeter.
•RBs must have good hands and the ability to make defenders miss in space.
•Examples: Darren Sproles (Eagles), Myles Gaskin (UCLA)

4. Durability and Toughness
•While speed is crucial, Kelly’s RBs must also be tough enough to handle a high workload since his tempo often results in a high number of carries.
•Examples: LeSean McCoy (Eagles), Royce Freeman (Oregon)

5. Good Vision and Patience
•Since the zone scheme requires reading blocks and reacting, RBs must have good vision rather than relying purely on power or predetermined cuts.

Ideal Prototype for Kelly’s Offense
•5’10”–6’1”, 200–220 lbs (though he has used smaller backs with elite speed)
•Fast, one-cut runner with great vision
•Comfortable catching passes
•Durable enough to handle a heavy workload

At UCLA, Kelly has slightly adjusted his RB usage by incorporating bigger, more physical backs like Zach Charbonnet, but the core principles of speed, vision, and versatility remain.

 

[LawFitz]

Optimistic Raider 
@planetraider
Chip Kelly’s offensive system requires athletic, smart, and disciplined offensive linemen who can execute his zone-blocking scheme at a high tempo. His ideal offensive linemen are not necessarily the biggest or strongest but must be able to move well in space and sustain blocks in a fast-paced system.

Key Traits of a Chip Kelly Offensive Lineman:

1. Athleticism Over Size
•Kelly prioritizes quick, agile linemen who can move laterally and reach defenders in zone-blocking schemes.
•Instead of massive, road-grading linemen, he prefers leaner, more mobile players who can keep up with his fast tempo.
•Examples: Oregon’s offensive lines under Kelly were often lighter and more athletic than traditional power-run teams.

2. Zone-Blocking Ability
•Kelly primarily runs inside and outside zone concepts, meaning linemen must be skilled at:
•Combo blocks (working together to reach the second level).
•Reading defensive movements and adjusting in real-time.
•Sealing defenders rather than overpowering them.

3. Stamina and Conditioning
•Since Kelly’s offense operates at high tempo, linemen must have excellent conditioning.
•He trains his linemen to minimize substitutions and play at a fast pace without wearing down.

4. Intelligence and Quick Processing
•His offense requires linemen to make fast, in-play adjustments based on defensive shifts.
•Kelly values linemen who can communicate well and execute without hesitation in a no-huddle system.

5. Versatility
•His offensive linemen often need to be position-flexible, capable of playing multiple spots due to the fast-paced nature of the system.
•This is particularly important when running RPOs (Run-Pass Options), which require linemen to stay disciplined and avoid downfield penalties.

6. Solid Technique Over Raw Power
•While strength is still important, Kelly’s linemen win with leverage, hand placement, and footwork rather than brute force.
•He prefers linemen who can stay balanced and move in space rather than just overpowering defenders.

Prototype for a Chip Kelly OL:
•Tackles: Quick feet for pass protection, ability to seal the edge in outside zone plays.
•Guards: Strong enough for inside zone but agile enough to pull and reach linebackers.
•Center: Smart, quick off the ball, capable of making adjustments for the entire line.
•Size: Generally lighter and more mobile than traditional power-blocking linemen, often in the 290-310 lb range instead of 330+ lbs.

How Chip Kelly Has Adjusted at UCLA:
•At Oregon, he had lighter, more athletic linemen who thrived in zone blocking.
•In the NFL, he struggled with bigger linemen who weren’t used to his tempo.
•At UCLA, he has incorporated more size while maintaining athleticism, adapting to a mix of zone and gap concepts.

Overall, Chip Kelly’s linemen must be quick, well-conditioned, intelligent, and technically sound, making them a great fit for his high-tempo, zone-based system.

 

[LawFitz]

Optimistic Raider 
@planetraider
Chip Kelly values versatile, athletic tight ends who can contribute in both the passing game and blocking schemes. His ideal tight ends are not just traditional in-line blockers but also playmakers who can line up in multiple positions. Key Traits of a Chip Kelly Tight End

1. Versatility (Move TE & In-Line)
•Kelly uses tight ends in multiple alignments, including:
•Traditional in-line (hand in the dirt)
•H-back (motioning across the formation)
•Slot receiver (as a mismatch weapon)
•They must be able to block, run routes, and act as a safety valve for QBs.

2. Athleticism & Speed
•Unlike traditional “big-bodied” tight ends, Kelly prefers TEs with speed who can create mismatches against linebackers and safeties.
•Many of his best tight ends have had wide receiver-like movement skills.

3. Reliable Hands & YAC (Yards After Catch) Ability
•Kelly’s offense relies on quick passes and RPOs, so tight ends must have good hands and be able to gain yards after the catch.
•He loves using TEs on seam routes and screens.

4. Blocking Ability
•While Kelly’s TEs don’t need to be dominant blockers, they must be capable in zone-blocking schemes and effective in space.
•They often help set up outside zone runs and seal the edge for running backs.

5. High Football IQ
•Since Kelly’s offense is fast-paced, tight ends need to process quickly, adjust routes on the fly, and contribute to the run-pass option (RPO) game.

Prototype for a Chip Kelly Tight End
•6’3”–6’6”, 230–250 lbs
•Athletic with receiver-like movement skills
•Versatile enough to line up in multiple spots
•Good hands and YAC ability
•Willing blocker, especially in zone schemes

At Oregon and UCLA, Kelly has used more athletic, hybrid tight ends, while in the NFL, he balanced between traditional TEs (Celek) and elite pass-catchers (Ertz).

 

[LawFitz]

Optimistic Raider 
@planetraider
Chip Kelly prefers wide receivers who fit his spread, up-tempo offense, emphasizing speed, versatility, and precise route-running. While he has used different types of receivers depending on his personnel, his system generally favors the following traits:

1. Speed and Explosiveness
•Kelly’s offense is built around spacing and tempo, so he likes receivers who can stretch the field and create separation quickly.
•Deep threats and yards-after-catch (YAC) playmakers thrive in his system.
•Examples: DeSean Jackson (Eagles), Josh Huff (Oregon), Kyle Philips (UCLA)

2. Route Runners with Quickness
•Since his passing game relies on quick, high-percentage throws, his WRs must be sharp route-runners who can get open quickly.
•Inside slot receivers and shifty possession WRs often play a key role.
•Examples: Jordan Matthews (Eagles), Devon Allen (Oregon), Kazmeir Allen (UCLA)

3. Versatile Playmakers
•Kelly loves multi-position players who can line up in the slot, outside, or even in the backfield.
•He has used WRs in jet sweeps, screens, and RPOs to keep defenses off balance.
•Examples: Brandon Aiyuk (Oregon commit under Kelly, later at Arizona State), Demetric Felton (UCLA)

4. Physical Receivers Who Can Block
•Since Kelly’s run game uses zone reads and RPOs, WR blocking is crucial.
•He values tough, physical WRs who can engage in perimeter blocking to help the running game.
•Examples: Jeff Maehl (Oregon), J.J. Arcega-Whiteside (Eagles)

5. Smart Players Who Can Process Quickly
•Because Kelly runs a fast-paced offense, WRs need to quickly read coverages and adjust routes on the fly.
•He prefers high-IQ football players who can handle a no-huddle system.

Prototype for a Chip Kelly WR:
•Speedster for deep threats and big plays (5’10”–6’2”, 180–200 lbs)
•Shifty slot WR with great hands and quick routes
•Physical WRs who can block and run after the catch
•High football IQ to handle tempo and quick adjustments

How Kelly Has Adjusted at UCLA:
•At Oregon and in the NFL, he relied more on speedsters and shifty slot receivers.
•At UCLA, he has incorporated bigger, more physical WRs, while still using quick, slot-type playmakers for RPOs and screens.

Overall, Kelly doesn’t need elite WRs to succeed, but he wants fast, smart, and versatile players who can execute his up-tempo scheme efficiently.

 

[LawFitz]

Reading the above, I'd say we can expect:

- Buh bye to AOC for sure, and probably Minch as well, though the latter could be kept if they can't find an adequate upgrade. Fields, Mariota, and DTR seem like ideal vet QB targets for Chip's system, while also targeting a rookie, even two in the mid-later rounds. Another dark horse, for a mid-later round pick could be a trade with New England for Joe Milton.

- Buh bye to Zamir, Mattison, with Abdullah and/or Laube kept as cheap 3rd/4th RB to go along with two mid-round rookies, or even Jeanty at #6 or a bit lower with a trade down.

- Buh bye to Andre James, Parham and a bunch of other OL. Only safe guys to me are JPJ, Glaze, maybe Miller and Munford. Rest of them probably gone. Huge overhaul needed here.

- Meyers and Tucker are safe, but rest of the WRs are trash. Need lots of help here, but it sounds like Tet McMillan might not be a fit. Alpha WR1 doesn't seem like such a need now with the Kelly offense, but def need more speed on the outside. Pre-prison Henry Ruggs is exactly what they need!

- TEs are the only safe position group, and that's only if Mayer has his head back on straight. Still a mystery what's going on with him.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Thanks @LawFitz

 

[Chaka]

We just got Hippled by LawFitzGPT

 

[Chaka]

Everyone ready to unleash DTR?

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Reading the above, I'd say we can expect:

- Buh bye to AOC for sure, and probably Minch as well, though the latter could be kept if they can't find an adequate upgrade. Fields, Mariota, and DTR seem like ideal vet QB targets for Chip's system, while also targeting a rookie, even two in the mid-later rounds. Another dark horse, for a mid-later round pick could be a trade with New England for Joe Milton.

- Buh bye to Zamir, Mattison, with Abdullah and/or Laube kept as cheap 3rd/4th RB to go along with two mid-round rookies, or even Jeanty at #6 or a bit lower with a trade down.

- Buh bye to Andre James, Parham and a bunch of other OL. Only safe guys to me are JPJ, Glaze, maybe Miller and Munford. Rest of them probably gone. Huge overhaul needed here.

- Meyers and Tucker are safe, but rest of the WRs are trash. Need lots of help here, but it sounds like Tet McMillan might not be a fit. Alpha WR1 doesn't seem like such a need now with the Kelly offense, but def need more speed on the outside. Pre-prison Henry Ruggs is exactly what they need!

- TEs are the only safe position group, and that's only if Mayer has his head back on straight. Still a mystery what's going on with him.

That sort of roster overhaul won’t happen quickly. The OL matching the scheme is huge and the biggest issue after QB. Zamir is cheap, he’ll be there. I think the wrs are actually fairly serviceable. They’re all quick burst guys

 

[Chaka]

Everyone ready to unleash DTR?

I say it as a joke because it seems unlikely he will grow into a legit NFL QB. But, as a backup he's a great scheme fit.

 

[Chadstroma]

Brennan Carroll as OL and Running Game Coordinator. (One of Pete's sons)

 

[Chadstroma]

I’m intrigued.

Pete Carrol…Chip Kelly…never in a million years would I have predicted those two. Does chip need a mobile qb?

I’ve been burned too many times to be excited but let’s see what happens. I’m really hoping for BPA in the draft and really don’t want to see dangerruss any where near the silver and black.

There was some connection between the two... at some point Chip was making the rounds with some NFL coaches.... he spent time with Gruden and Belicheat as well as Carroll. So there was a very thin line between the two of connection but still something there but I was blindsided by this. I hadn't heard of anything about it and I didn't think of it as an option either. I think it is likely the best option of the OC potentials that I thought were likely.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I’m intrigued.

Pete Carrol…Chip Kelly…never in a million years would I have predicted those two. Does chip need a mobile qb?

I’ve been burned too many times to be excited but let’s see what happens. I’m really hoping for BPA in the draft and really don’t want to see dangerruss any where near the silver and black.

There was some connection between the two... at some point Chip was making the rounds with some NFL coaches.... he spent time with Gruden and Belicheat as well as Carroll. So there was a very thin line between the two of connection but still something there but I was blindsided by this. I hadn't heard of anything about it and I didn't think of it as an option either. I think it is likely the best option of the OC potentials that I thought were likely.

It brings legitimacy. Which feels weird.

 

[ratbast]

Chip heavily influenced Brady’s offense. His approach to play-calling was part of the architecture of the playbook. I think he had a lot of influence on McDaniels/Brady success. Circa +/- 2006
As a Pats and UNH fan, we’ve been dialed in to Chip for a long time.

 

[Chadstroma]

I will say that the one thing I remember thinking during the CFB Championship game was "this is not the Chip Kelly offense I remember"

It was a very different offense from the Oregon days or even his stops as a HC in the NFL which for me is huge. I hate system guys that do not move off of their system. The great coaches can adapt and change as their roster and situations demand it.

I am not sure if it was mentioned yet but he is now the highest paid OC in the league.

Mariota as the vet signing and then late pick on Will Howard with AOC as that third QB that is allowed now that doesn't count for the roster. That leaves us to go BPA with our higher picks and both fit the 'prototype'.

 

[Chaka]

Greg Olsen back as QB coach.

 

[Chaka]

Apparently Kelly's deal averages $6 mil/year.

1) If true he has to be one of the top paid coordinators in the league, if not the top.

2) Good on Mark Davis for opening the purse strings to make that happen.

3) It also seems to suggest that he is the frontrunner for heir apparent to Carroll.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I will say that the one thing I remember thinking during the CFB Championship game was "this is not the Chip Kelly offense I remember"

It was a very different offense from the Oregon days or even his stops as a HC in the NFL which for me is huge. I hate system guys that do not move off of their system. The great coaches can adapt and change as their roster and situations demand it.

I am not sure if it was mentioned yet but he is now the highest paid OC in the league.

Mariota as the vet signing and then late pick on Will Howard with AOC as that third QB that is allowed now that doesn't count for the roster. That leaves us to go BPA with our higher picks and both fit the 'prototype'.

Man that’s a grizzly looking qb room.

 

[Chadstroma]

I will say that the one thing I remember thinking during the CFB Championship game was "this is not the Chip Kelly offense I remember"

It was a very different offense from the Oregon days or even his stops as a HC in the NFL which for me is huge. I hate system guys that do not move off of their system. The great coaches can adapt and change as their roster and situations demand it.

I am not sure if it was mentioned yet but he is now the highest paid OC in the league.

Mariota as the vet signing and then late pick on Will Howard with AOC as that third QB that is allowed now that doesn't count for the roster. That leaves us to go BPA with our higher picks and both fit the 'prototype'.

Man that’s a grizzly looking qb room.

I rather do that for a year than over reach on a QB

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I will say that the one thing I remember thinking during the CFB Championship game was "this is not the Chip Kelly offense I remember"

It was a very different offense from the Oregon days or even his stops as a HC in the NFL which for me is huge. I hate system guys that do not move off of their system. The great coaches can adapt and change as their roster and situations demand it.

I am not sure if it was mentioned yet but he is now the highest paid OC in the league.

Mariota as the vet signing and then late pick on Will Howard with AOC as that third QB that is allowed now that doesn't count for the roster. That leaves us to go BPA with our higher picks and both fit the 'prototype'.

Man that’s a grizzly looking qb room.

I rather do that for a year than over reach on a QB

agreed and its arguably no worse than this year. its still ugly though

 

[Hankmoody]

3) It also seems to suggest that he is the frontrunner for heir apparent to Carroll.

My initial thought here is "oh please lord no", his first go-around ended in flames in the NFL. When OSU hired him he actually resigned as HC at UCLA to become an OC so I was thinking maybe he's content with that and not having all the stress and headaches of being a HC. Maybe that's the case - he's 61, he's not going to coach forever, maybe he can just play mad scientist as the highest paid OC for a few years? That was my OSU dream anyway.

But hey, if it's successful, maybe I'll come around on this? That's three years away though, and only manifests if there's a ton of success first, so that would be nice to be in that position to consider it.

 

[Chaka]

Anyone remember why Kelly was fired from Philadelphia? Two 10-6 seasons with top 5 offenses despite limited QBs (Sanchez, Vick, Foles, Bradford) and 6-9 (still a top 12 offense) and getting fired before the final game of the season.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

We are talking about the Eagles, right? This is the same team that fired Andy Reid. Enough said.

 

[Sarlakticacid]

Anyone remember why Kelly was fired from Philadelphia? Two 10-6 seasons with top 5 offenses despite limited QBs (Sanchez, Vick, Foles, Bradford) and 6-9 (still a top 12 offense) and getting fired before the final game of the season.

Power struggle between him and Howie wasn’t it?

 

[kaso]

Anyone remember why Kelly was fired from Philadelphia? Two 10-6 seasons with top 5 offenses despite limited QBs (Sanchez, Vick, Foles, Bradford) and 6-9 (still a top 12 offense) and getting fired before the final game of the season.

Power struggle between him and Howie wasn’t it?

From this ESPN Article:

ESPN's Sal Paolantonio reported Lurie wanted to strip personnel decisions from Kelly, and when the coach balked at the move, the Eagles owner fired him, per Kevin Winter of ESPN Radio.

However, on Wednesday, Rapoport reported that he had "not heard that this scenario [was] accurate," adding he was "looking for a big event" that led to Kelly being fired, but it sounded like Lurie "just called him in and fired him."

 

[Chaka]

Anyone remember why Kelly was fired from Philadelphia? Two 10-6 seasons with top 5 offenses despite limited QBs (Sanchez, Vick, Foles, Bradford) and 6-9 (still a top 12 offense) and getting fired before the final game of the season.

Power struggle between him and Howie wasn’t it?

Yeah, I read a little more about it and he was given personnel authority for his last season and blew up the roster.

Traded McCoy, who led the league in rushing and YFS the year before, for Kiko Alonso, which failed badly. Brought in DeMarco Murray to replace McCoy and he failed badly as well. Traded Foles, who went 14-4 over two seasons prior, for Bradford, who went 7-7 in his one season in Phili.

I give Kelly a mulligan for his one season in SF. They were a train wreck before then under Baalke and big changes were coming no matter what. The roster was depleted enough that Shanahan went 10-22 over his first two seasons after Kelly. Baalke is not a good GM.

If Kelly doesn't have personnel authority I don't think I have any issues with him as a HC.

 

[LawFitz]

Sign Jordan Mason to a low/mid-level FA RB deal ($3-4/mm per) if he'll take that, and then draft Henderson from OSU or Neal from Kansas in rd 3 (or trade down in rd 2), and then draft the bigger OSU RB in rd 4. Mix in some mauler OLs in FA and the draft and boom the dynamite.

 

[joey]

Sign Jordan Mason to a low/mid-level FA RB deal ($3-4/mm per) if he'll take that, and then draft Henderson from OSU or Neal from Kansas in rd 3 (or trade down in rd 2), and then draft the bigger OSU RB in rd 4. Mix in some mauler OLs in FA and the draft and boom the dynamite.

Who’s our QB?

 

[LawFitz]

Sign Jordan Mason to a low/mid-level FA RB deal ($3-4/mm per) if he'll take that, and then draft Henderson from OSU or Neal from Kansas in rd 3 (or trade down in rd 2), and then draft the bigger OSU RB in rd 4. Mix in some mauler OLs in FA and the draft and boom the dynamite.

Who’s our QB?

You sound exactly like my wife every time I get excited about a solution to anything.

 

[LawFitz]

As of right now, early Feb, I suspect better than 50/50 that Shade Sanders will be available at pick #6. Question is whether the Raiders take him.

 

[Chadstroma]

I am surprised that a number of defensive position coaches will not be returning.... per Jeremy Fowler

Cadillac Williams, Edgat Bennett, Mike Caldwell, Ricky Manning Jr and also assistant QB coach Fred Walker.

I am very disappointed in not keeping Bennett but maybe more surprised Manning was not retained considering the ties he has also to Carroll.

On the official Raiders website....
Carroll HC
Marvin Lewis AHC
Chip Kelly OC
Joe Philbin Interim OL
Luke Steckel TE
Tim Zetts Offensive Assistant

Patrick Graham DC
Gerald Alexander Safeties
Matt Freeney Assistant DB
Rob Leonard DL
Marcus Lewis Assistant LB

Everyone else on Offense and Defense have been purged from the site.

 

[LawFitz]

Marvin Lewis AHC

 

[Chadstroma]

Marvin Lewis AHC

It doesn't mean he will still be there when all is said and done but why not? Carroll is a CEO type HC to begin with and at his age delegation is probably the key for him to survive more than a year or two. It isn't like Lewis doesn't have a wealth of experience and would be unable to perform anything asked of him. further, gives you a third option for succession after Carroll as well. With the great purge of all the other coaches though it seems like he may be sticking around.

 

[ICON211]

Marvin Lewis AHC

It doesn't mean he will still be there when all is said and done but why not? Carroll is a CEO type HC to begin with and at his age delegation is probably the key for him to survive more than a year or two. It isn't like Lewis doesn't have a wealth of experience and would be unable to perform anything asked of him. further, gives you a third option for succession after Carroll as well. With the great purge of all the other coaches though it seems like he may be sticking around.

I've always stuck with the Raiders and always will, but If Marvin Lewis is the head coach of the Raiders after Carroll that would really test me.

 

[Hankmoody]

Marvin Lewis AHC

He's had that title for a couple of year now I think. it's just to justify the paycheck as an advisor, nothing more.

 

[Chadstroma]

Marvin Lewis AHC

He's had that title for a couple of year now I think. it's just to justify the paycheck as an advisor, nothing more.

I think he only has it last year and before that he was an untitled advisor/mentor to AP

 

[Chadstroma]

Graham got a raise to stay.

 

[Chaka]

Shane Waldron going to the Jags.

It's an early Festivus miracle!

 

[Hankmoody]

So with Kelly coming in our QB targets get more defined. Vet QB could be Fields or Mariotta and we can probably rule out Russ, Darnold, or pretty much any other vet. Then we draft someone - I like Jaxon Dart the most out of the tier 2 guys but wouldn't hate on Will Howard. Milroe's pre-draft has been disastrous but I would be ok with taking a shot on the physical talent in the 3rd or later.

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[joey]

So with Kelly coming in our QB targets get more defined. Vet QB could be Fields or Mariotta and we can probably rule out Russ, Darnold, or pretty much any other vet. Then we draft someone - I like Jaxon Dart the most out of the tier 2 guys but wouldn't hate on Will Howard. Milroe's pre-draft has been disastrous but I would be ok with taking a shot on the physical talent in the 3rd or later.

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Unfortunately, does this also put Minshew on our QB vet short list?

 

[Chadstroma]

Joe Woods as a defensive pass game coordinator. Wealth of DC experience and past Raider coach.