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Indefinite Las Vegas Raiders thread - ☠ The Mork and Brady show ☠ (1 Viewer)
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Chadstroma
Footballguy
Dang it Giants. Can't even get a FG in.
LawFitz
Footballguy
I think it's based on strength of schedule. And if that is true, one more win would drop them from 1st to 8th right now.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
As it would us.
Chaka
Footballguy
I think he was talking about the Raiders.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Oh snap I didn't follow the context. I was curious about the "#1" part when talking about the Giants
So yeah, SoS is not our friend. Once again we get screwed by having lost to a powerhouse division while cupcakes get the prizes.
New England could win against Arizona, and Carolina has Arizona and Atlanta both (and is playing much better overall). Jags play us, NYJ, and TEN so with a little luck all three of them get a win in there too.
Chaka
Footballguy
So long as the Raiders keep losing...Oh snap I didn't follow the context. I was curious about the "#1" part when talking about the Giants
So yeah, SoS is not our friend. Once again we get screwed by having lost to a powerhouse division while cupcakes get the prizes.
New England could win against Arizona, and Carolina has Arizona and Atlanta both (and is playing much better overall). Jags play us, NYJ, and TEN so with a little luck all three of them get a win in there too.
Chaka
Footballguy
That Jaguars game looms large... heck the next three games are all very winnable and you never know what's going to happen when they face the Chargers in week 18.
Atlanta is fading, bad, the Jags are rolling Mac Jones and the Saints just lost Carr RoS.
2-11 now with the #1 overall pick. Where does 5-11 land them?
Tau837
Footballguy
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Not like #1 QB picks are a lock for success
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
You should be careful using the word bust in relation to raider drafts.
joey
Footballguy
Lock or not, they have no choice at all. Must draft a franchise QB. If he’s a bust, so be it. Rinse and repeat. Can NOT have another Minshew/O’Connell year. Need to instill some HOPE in Raider fandom.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Nah. They always have a choice. Until we get a proper read on any generational prospects available at OT, DT and DE, I'm not committing to the draft a QB at all costs narrative. Jawalrus Russell was picked ahead of Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis and Darrelle Revis, among others. They always have a choice.
The other debate should be about whether or not to keep AP. Like with passing on a QB, if the right alternative comes available...
DocHolliday
Footballguy
The Raiders have had many horrible seasons over the last 20 years, but this season feels like it’s taking forever. Maybe because most of us saw this disaster coming back in August?
It’s time for a new young coach to choose his QB from the draft and start over. Let’s hope the Raiders lose out to make this happen.
It’s time for a new young coach to choose his QB from the draft and start over. Let’s hope the Raiders lose out to make this happen.
ICON211
Footballguy
If they love a QB then of course they should take him. If not then take a player they do think is an impact player. It's different than last year hopefully picking so high this year, but what if they passed on Bowers for a garbage QB....
joey
Footballguy
Last year we shouldve gone Qb only if one of the consensus top 6 QBs was there (Williams, Daniels, Maye, McCarthy, Nix, Penix) imho.
Every single one of those guys brings HOPE of a future franchise QB that we haven’t had since we first drafted Carr.
If we’re in the top 2 or 3 picks this coming year, and there is a concensus 2 or 3 franchise level QBs, I think this organization, in the state it’s been in for SO LONG, needs to swing for the fences and go for it by drafting a rookie QB.
ICON211
Footballguy
I can see that. However, if they win another game or two and are picking anywhere after Ward and Sanders are gone I don't think it's wise to limit the options to QB and nothing else. I do not like the other QBs after those two guys.
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Chaka
Footballguy
Not even remotely. While I hope they get the #1 pick and grab Ward or Sanders I am highly skeptical the current staff is well suited to develop a franchise QB.
If they have the #1 or #2 pick I would hope they clean house and bring in a Ben Johnson, Todd Monken type to increase the chances of developing a true franchise QB.
joey
Footballguy
Current draft order is:
Giants - need a QB
Raiders - need a QB
NE - don’t need a QB
Panthers- hopefully Young keeps improving so they don’t draft a rookie QB
Browns - need a QB but are they “stuck” with Watson for another year?
Jets -need a QB
Titans - maybe?
Jacksonville - maybe?
Bears - no
Saints - maybe but just drafted rookie QBs the last 2 years
So, yeah, there’s competition for rookie QBs at the top of the draft, depending on how far we drop if we win a game or two more.
ZADO
Footballguy
Thank you, very informative , much appreciated
ZADO
Footballguy
They should treat the rest of the season like preseason and start only backups
joey
Footballguy
Funny. When we talk about losing out, it is exactly a player like Maxx that I feel horrible for. To be playing your *** off and still losing…must be hugely demoralizing.
So I was actually happy when I read the news about Maxx being shut down for the season. Not just for the Raiders odds of getting a better draft pick, but also for Maxx’s psyche.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
QB class keeps taking hits. Garrett Nussmeier already announced he's staying and Penn State backup QB is in the portal now, skipping the College Playoffs, so that likely means Drew Allar is staying in school too. The loss of depth now means getting a top pick is that much more critical.
Chaka
Footballguy
I'd hate to see him go but I would have been thrilled for Maxx if the Raiders had traded him to Detroit after they lost Hutch. Dude deserves to contend for trophies.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
They’re still fighting. Which is a good thing….
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Which says a lot for the coaching staff and players. They are decimated all over the roster with injuries have the worst record in the league but still are putting everything they got into it. I didn't see anyone just quitting out there.They’re still fighting. Which is a good thing….
This is a very young team which is good news when you are trying to build. Get healthy, make some moves, get the high pick and QB and this is a much better team than a 2-12. This last draft was a great one to build off of.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Clyde Edwards-Helaire released. Though a Chef, it sucks, the poor kid has been dealing with PTSD from a robbery where either him or his friend killed the robber. His struggles isn't for a lack of talent. Maybe pick him up and get him a ton of mental health assistance. If he is able to move on from the PTSD that would be a huge addition to the RB room.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Balco
Footballguy
They’re still fighting. Which is a good thing….
I have to say - I was super impressed with the intensity of the D. I kept seeing number 44 - what’s the deal with him? He played fast and angry.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
He’s been a bright spot. Picked off the trash heap. Former 1st round pick. He’s played wellThey’re still fighting. Which is a good thing….
I have to say - I was super impressed with the intensity of the D. I kept seeing number 44 - what’s the deal with him? He played fast and angry.
ZADO
Footballguy
The fact that they seem to be trying and NOT tanking is wild . Id rather have the excuse that they are tanking and not just really bad .They’re still fighting. Which is a good thing….
ICON211
Footballguy
You'd rather the players quit and not give effort? Like it or not guys that are on this year's team will be on next year's team. They will be better next year when the injured players are healthy and who would want guys that quit the year before?The fact that they seem to be trying and NOT tanking is wild . Id rather have the excuse that they are tanking and not just really bad .They’re still fighting. Which is a good thing….
ZADO
Footballguy
Thats not what im saying, im saying it shows how bad they really are , at least if they were quitting you couldnt blame lack of talent or coaching.You'd rather the players quit and not give effort? Like it or not guys that are on this year's team will be on next year's team. They will be better next year when the injured players are healthy and who would want guys that quit the year before?The fact that they seem to be trying and NOT tanking is wild . Id rather have the excuse that they are tanking and not just really bad .They’re still fighting. Which is a good thing….
joey
Footballguy
I think it can be both.Thats not what im saying, im saying it shows how bad they really are , at least if they were quitting you couldnt blame lack of talent or coaching.You'd rather the players quit and not give effort? Like it or not guys that are on this year's team will be on next year's team. They will be better next year when the injured players are healthy and who would want guys that quit the year before?The fact that they seem to be trying and NOT tanking is wild . Id rather have the excuse that they are tanking and not just really bad .They’re still fighting. Which is a good thing….
Great that our guys are trying and not quitters. Bodes well for the future of the team.
Scary that another roster reject (Chaisson) can join our squad and stand out so much making plays. Either speaks to him being reinvigorated in a new environment, or the fact that our talent level stinks, or both.
Chaka
Footballguy
Players seldom quit and the silver lining about these situations is you can identify the ones who do.The fact that they seem to be trying and NOT tanking is wild . Id rather have the excuse that they are tanking and not just really bad .They’re still fighting. Which is a good thing….
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Been saying this forever, our starters have been competitive but our depth is street-level bad.
ZADO
Footballguy
VERY INTRESTING
strength of schedule also serves as a tiebreaker for teams in the NFL Draft order. The Raiders strength of schedule is .538, whereas the New York Giants’ is .550, so Las Vegas is in pole position with both teams sitting on 2-12 records.Travis Hunter's mom issues five word response to brother's major announcementKirk Cousins makes worrying admission as Falcons coach Raheem Morris aims savage digWith three games remaining, the Giants face the Atlanta Falcons, Indianapolis Colts, and Philadelphia Eagles while the Raiders will take on the Jacksonville Jaguars, New Orleans Saints, and Los Angeles Chargers. If both teams lose out, the Raiders will own the rights to the coveted first overall selection.
strength of schedule also serves as a tiebreaker for teams in the NFL Draft order. The Raiders strength of schedule is .538, whereas the New York Giants’ is .550, so Las Vegas is in pole position with both teams sitting on 2-12 records.Travis Hunter's mom issues five word response to brother's major announcementKirk Cousins makes worrying admission as Falcons coach Raheem Morris aims savage digWith three games remaining, the Giants face the Atlanta Falcons, Indianapolis Colts, and Philadelphia Eagles while the Raiders will take on the Jacksonville Jaguars, New Orleans Saints, and Los Angeles Chargers. If both teams lose out, the Raiders will own the rights to the coveted first overall selection.
Chaka
Footballguy
Even this team will struggle to lose to both the Jags and Saints. 4-13 seems more realistic.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I don't know... I like that they are fighting but we have 5 starters on defense on IR including our best three defenders and leader of the secondary. On offense, after Meyer and Tucker, can you name a WR that is active? I can't. I had to look it up and I don't know either of their names. Sam Webb and Nate Hobbs have not practiced all week and are questionable. They haven't given up which you want to see but they are severely depleted.
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