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Footballguy
Just curious because I'm not going to look it up --- did Dan Snyder ever get an F in that survey? Thanks.
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Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (2 Viewers)
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Just curious because I'm not going to look it up --- did Dan Snyder ever get an F in that survey? Thanks.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Dart is moving up and hype building - may pull a Pennix/Bo Nix and go much higher than previously thought. Jets sitting in a good spot to land him at #7 if h grades out as a franchise QB - seemed ridiculous a few wees ago but they are dying for a QB and not sure they can risk trading down and getting leapt over. If they did go that route they should follow the Falcons blueprint and go with Tyrod most of the season to let him learn and get his feet wet last few games - or until tyrod inevitably gets injured!
How would you feel if they took him at #7 - Id be ok with it - need youth/hope at QB and reading about alternatives like Fields, Mariotta, Kirk, etc - feels like a wasted season if not developing a new young QB.
How would you feel if they took him at #7 - Id be ok with it - need youth/hope at QB and reading about alternatives like Fields, Mariotta, Kirk, etc - feels like a wasted season if not developing a new young QB.
sheerterror
Footballguy
The new regime gets/deserves the benefit of the doubt from us - they've done no wrong [yet] to be dumped into the 'same ol Jets' category as, well, everyone else. So with that said, if they evaluate Dart and determine that he's worth taking 7th overall despite their awareness that it could set back or even doom the Glenn-Mougey combo, I'd be totally fine with it.
zamboni
Footballguy
Agreed - wouldn't mind a bridge QB and then draft Dart and let him sit a year (or put him in if he's got enough promise). Scary that this regime seems like it may know what it's doing - unchartered territory for us fans.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Thanks JD. Quite the legacy you have left behind. In his last season, he p'd away draft picks (Reddick and Adams) and cap space.
We still have no QB and a bunch of roster holes. I hope you never get a chance to be GM again. One great draft with 4 high draft picks and complete garbage otherwise. Saleh and Ulbrich were the perfect court jesters for this fraudster scallywag.
We still have no QB and a bunch of roster holes. I hope you never get a chance to be GM again. One great draft with 4 high draft picks and complete garbage otherwise. Saleh and Ulbrich were the perfect court jesters for this fraudster scallywag.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
JD was bad - no doubt - but close to a zero chance that JD had enough clout to pull that deal as he was close to being fired. That was a delusional Woody/Rodgers call thinking Adams could save the season when it was clearly gone.
RC94
Footballguy
Agreed. He essentially lost his job early in the season. He was pretty terrible overall and I agree with @NYRAGE about his overall legacy, but he wasn't really involved with any of the moves from this season including Adams and firing Saleh. He did do the Reddick trade (and decided to let Franklin-Myers leave), though, and that never seemed to be good moves.
Basically, I don't think JD can be blamed or given any credit for the main things that happened this season from the point when Saleh was fired, but he was responsible for the things that came before then.
rockaction
Footballguy
I thought JD was okay. He's the reason we had all those picks in that draft that he killed. He messed up on Becton over two surer things and other parts, but he can't be blamed for the Adams trade or even letting Franklin-Myers walk. We'll never know the level of Woody and Brick's interference with him.
That's why it's hard to judge Jets GMs. The owner got an "F" from the players. A dead "F". He has his kids giving out game balls in the locker room.
Total dysfunction. It doesn't get any better when he dies, either.
That's why it's hard to judge Jets GMs. The owner got an "F" from the players. A dead "F". He has his kids giving out game balls in the locker room.
Total dysfunction. It doesn't get any better when he dies, either.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I know Woody has been considered a bad owner for some time but besides maybe Tebow I dont recall him meddling and being involved like he has been this past season. I am willing to write it off as losing his mind that the Rodgers experiment was such a disaster and he kept Saleh a year too long.
As bad as Woody is perceived they still land solid FAs and just put together a pretty solid coaching staff/front office - if they finally find a QB and the coaching staff/Front office is decent I can definitely see Woody staying in the background like Dolan. Hes getting old and wants to win bad - Dolan was way worse than Woody.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
interesting note in the Geno trade - despite reporting at the time it seems the Jets sent the Raiders the late 3rd rd pick from the Lions for Devante and not their own high 3rd. Not sure how that could get screwed up so bad - maybe the local reporters could stop trying for clicks and concentrate on real news like this. Gives the Jets a high 3rd rder to use or deal.
Trade was still awful but at least not as awful - also Raiders now out of QB market which makes QB in play at #7 more possible,
Trade was still awful but at least not as awful - also Raiders now out of QB market which makes QB in play at #7 more possible,
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, it's the pick the Lions sent the Jets, which is a late third. I don't think the Adams trade was bad at all. You're in it to win it, you do it. The problem was that they did it too late.
What I want to know is why the Jets didn't send their other third for Geno. It would seem that unless you have an agreement with Fields in place, then you'd want to improve your team for a third like Las Vegas just did.
Who are they going to have play QB that's better than Geno? I find it hard to believe they have one signed or in mind already.
rockaction
Footballguy
The Jets picks, according to Tankathon:
7, 42, 73, 109, 146, 157, 188, 209
Which they'll need. Have you looked at ourlads.com's depth chart and gotten a gander at the free agent status of the Jets' secondary? Hoo boy. Their entire secondary besides Sauce are free agents. Two deep at every position other than his.
7, 42, 73, 109, 146, 157, 188, 209
Which they'll need. Have you looked at ourlads.com's depth chart and gotten a gander at the free agent status of the Jets' secondary? Hoo boy. Their entire secondary besides Sauce are free agents. Two deep at every position other than his.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’d prefer for them to pass on QB in this draft - I’d hope they already have Fields in place by then as well.
What they do in free agency will be telling, and as I said I’ll put some trust into the new regime for now to get it right. If that involves Dart, I’m on board. Right now, I’m hesitant on going that route.
rockaction
Footballguy
Fields and Taylor sounds an awful lot like the Fields and Russ tandem that Pittsburgh ran out there last year to little success. And we don't have Pittsburgh's defense. I'm not sure how this all works if they sign Fields.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
At least Fields is young with upside. It would allow them the possibility to either draft a mid rd/day 2 QB to develop or even punt for a year to see if Fields can take the next step. Much better than a season of Tyrod IMO.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
They were 3-1 with Fields starting. I’m looking at the NFL landscape and the final four teams had Hurts-Daniels-Allen-Mahomes - strong mobile QBs are the prototype now.
It also reunites Fields and Wilson. I think the Jets arguably have better offensive weapons than the Steelers.
I don’t think Fields comes without any risk - but let’s face any choice they make at the position comes with risk.