Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (1 Viewer)

[TLEF316]

Its hard. There's enough young and expensive (or soon to be expensive) pieces on this roster that you hate to just flush a year down the toilet. But I just don't see a viable option out there that puts this team in a position to win 10 games (which still only gets you a WC spot, since you're in a division with buffalo).

Jets are in a bad spot. Would be great of they could somehow fall *** backwards into Arch Manning, but there's no way we're that lucky.

IMO.....best bet is to take one of the 2nd tier QBs in the 2nd or 3rd round (McCord, Howard, milroe....guessing dart jumps into the first at this point) and just hope to get lucky. Let them compete against tyrod and if it doesn't work...first rounder next year)

 

[fatness]

I hope the Jets don't sign Cousins because he'll cost too much (he already has enough money for the rest of his life), I've never heard much about him being a good mentor, and if he is the starter they'll have to put up with those pesky "put up a lot yardage but when game is on the line turn the ball over or throw 3-yard pass on 4th and 11" performances.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I hope the Jets don't sign Cousins because he'll cost too much

Wouldn't Atlanta be responsible for most of his contract?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Jets informed QB Aaron Rodgers of his release.
In an announcement released on the team’s site, the Jets have shared that they will be moving on from Rodgers before the start of the 2025 season. The soon-to-be-released, future Hall of Famer will be free to sign with any team this offseason, thus ending a cataclysmic two-year run with Gang Green that was marred by a torn achilles, a 5-12 season in 2024, and a further collapse in playing ability. FOX Sports’ Jay Glazer broke the news on Super Bowl Sunday that the Jets planned to move on from Rodgers, who was reportedly asked to shelve his appearances on ESPN’s The Pat McAfee Show during the 2025 season if he did return to the team. The Jets are taking on a $49 million dead cap hit, though that can be broken up over several years if Rodgers is designated as a post-June 1 release. A shadow of the player he was when he last won league MVP in 2021, Rodgers, 41, will likely have to continue his playing career as a bridge QB for any team interested in his services. That’s if anyone is interested at all in the circus this has become. Rodgers, meanwhile, will probably have zero interest in being anyone’s No. 2. It’s quite possible we are at the end of the line of what has been an inner-circle HOF career.

 

[Kiddnets]

Its hard. There's enough young and expensive (or soon to be expensive) pieces on this roster that you hate to just flush a year down the toilet. But I just don't see a viable option out there that puts this team in a position to win 10 games (which still only gets you a WC spot, since you're in a division with buffalo).

Jets are in a bad spot. Would be great of they could somehow fall *** backwards into Arch Manning, but there's no way we're that lucky.

IMO.....best bet is to take one of the 2nd tier QBs in the 2nd or 3rd round (McCord, Howard, milroe....guessing dart jumps into the first at this point) and just hope to get lucky. Let them compete against tyrod and if it doesn't work...first rounder next year)

Lots of options and the first time in a while we all are clueless. You could make a case for several options.

Reading the tea leaves Spielman does have the Cousins connection - no way they trade for him so it would have to be a buy out ala Wilson where he signs for cheap for 1 yr.

Agreed on Stafford - I just dont see them trading valuable capital for another older QB

Fields may be a bit pricey but they could find the room if they really like him. I dont think he gets huge money but definitely not as cheap as last year

Darnold - I love how everyone says no way he comes back to the Jets. Its not like they treated him poorly - they sung his praises and actually got a good return for him. If they feel like he could be the answer and pony up a big contract he easily could come back

Draft - I think this is the most likely - Id prefer to take a shot at a day 2 QB or trade up from 2d rder into the late 1st if they really like a day 2 QB prospect. Then go with Tyrod for the yr while the rook develops.

Arch - With NIL and family money I dont see him coming out soon at all - he could stay until the end - and no way Mannings want him to go to the mess thats the jets - though he owes them for the Gase disaster!

 

[Kiddnets]

Jets informed QB Aaron Rodgers of his release.
In an announcement released on the team’s site, the Jets have shared that they will be moving on from Rodgers before the start of the 2025 season. The soon-to-be-released, future Hall of Famer will be free to sign with any team this offseason, thus ending a cataclysmic two-year run with Gang Green that was marred by a torn achilles, a 5-12 season in 2024, and a further collapse in playing ability. FOX Sports’ Jay Glazer broke the news on Super Bowl Sunday that the Jets planned to move on from Rodgers, who was reportedly asked to shelve his appearances on ESPN’s The Pat McAfee Show during the 2025 season if he did return to the team. The Jets are taking on a $49 million dead cap hit, though that can be broken up over several years if Rodgers is designated as a post-June 1 release. A shadow of the player he was when he last won league MVP in 2021, Rodgers, 41, will likely have to continue his playing career as a bridge QB for any team interested in his services. That’s if anyone is interested at all in the circus this has become. Rodgers, meanwhile, will probably have zero interest in being anyone’s No. 2. It’s quite possible we are at the end of the line of what has been an inner-circle HOF career.

Im interested to see what team would put up with him as a bridge QB - only one that jumps out are the Raiders. Carroll is on a short timeline - could bring him in to make a mini run I suppose.

Im also interested to see if he'll be up for learning a new offense - that was part of the appeal to the Jets - they basically brought in his system and players - not happening elsewhere.

He could very well retire

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Im interested to see what team would put up with him as a bridge QB - only one that jumps out are the Raiders.

I honestly think that is the only option potentially available to him and I'm not sure why a team that has had so much difficulty landing a QB would want another stop gap.

I think there's a very good chance no one will want him and he'll "retire" (not being a hater just talking real football).

The gambling sites list Pittsburgh as the top odds for Rodgers' next team. I don't see him and Tomlin getting along at all, but Vegas does always seem to know what they're talking about. The Steelers homers I know do NOT want anything to do with Rodgers.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Also if Rodgers did go to the Raiders, unless he miraculously reverts to 2021 form, it's hard to envision much success in 2025 (although I wouldn't 100% rule it out of course) .

The Raiders have a bad o-line, no RB, and worse talent at WR than the Jets. Bowers looks like a great weapon, but who else is there? They can't trade for Adams back. Maybe the great Allen Lazard can be enticed to sign there.

 

[Kiddnets]

Im interested to see what team would put up with him as a bridge QB - only one that jumps out are the Raiders.

I honestly think that is the only option potentially available to him and I'm not sure why a team that has had so much difficulty landing a QB would want another stop gap.

I think there's a very good chance no one will want him and he'll "retire" (not being a hater just talking real football).

The gambling sites list Pittsburgh as the top odds for Rodgers' next team. I don't see him and Tomlin getting along at all, but Vegas does always seem to know what they're talking about. The Steelers homers I know do NOT want anything to do with Rodgers.

I saw the Pitt odds - Vegas usually does know things and supposedly Arthur Smith was interested in coming on board to the Jets last offseason and Tomlin does need to win now as there are rumblings so there is some smoke there - but Pitt has been in QB purgatory for some time and I dont see them as one QB away - certainly not a 40+ AR - it would be similar to the Russell Wilson experiment IMO that didnt end well. I do agree thats probably the best situation out there for him tho

 

[RC94]

I think the Jets need to come to terms with the fact that they might have to just punt at the QB position this year and go for a stable vet like Brissett or Tyrod and invest in some non-1st round QBs to try to develop. It wouldn't be a bad idea to develop the team more on offense for when the long term QB is found. IIRC ATL doens't gain much of anything from cutting Cousins, but he may be able to trade. I doubt Darnold's only criteria is money, so I doubt he comes back. They would have to be the highest bidder, especially with guranteed money. It's possible, though. Most pundits seem to think PIT keeps Fields, and he likes it there, so I doubt he's going to be available. I think that would be another situation where the Jets would have to be the highest bidder by a large margin. The realistic choices are thin IMO.

I would like them to use the 1st on BPA, so it won't be a QB, and go after a good vet who can be somewhat respectable on the field to keep the rest of the team involved, but who is a good teammate and mentor. If Travis has upside, then let him compete. They can also draft a QB like Dart or Milroe or Shough in the 2nd or 3rd to add to the competition and long term development. If none of the young guys are going to be long term guy, they can go after a QB next year. One of the problems the Jets have had with QBs IMO is that they often force it, and it winds up being a bad fit. Both Wilson and Rodgers were like that, for different reasons, but neither were a good fit.

I can write this post in the NYG thread too.

 

[jwb]

So what will the Jets do for a quarterback? Who do Jets fans want?
Justin Fields
Sam Darnold
Jalen Milroe
Jaxson Dart
Kyle McCord
trade up for Shedeur Sanders
trade up for Cam Ward
other: _____________

On that list I’d want Fields but I’m starting to see that he’s not going to have to settle on a prove it deal and he should be in demand, so I’m not sure he’s realistic.

I don’t think there’s a lot of great options this year. Cousins could be interesting if released as a stop gap and potentially more. I don’t like the QBs in the draft much. I wouldn’t want them to trade for Stafford unless it was dirt cheap and I don’t see that. I’ve actually read today they want the no. 3 overall pick from the Giants for him. That seems crazy to me.

I’m feeling sort of confident in the new regime and glad they also added Spielman as a VP - I’ve been burned before but I’ll trust them to make good choices in regard to QB and other needs.

I'm feeling pretty good about the new regime simply because they ripped the AR band-aid off. Aaron Glenn wanted this job, and he seemingly has good support.

 

[Chemical X]

I think the Jets need to come to terms with the fact that they might have to just punt at the QB position this year and go for a stable vet like Brissett or Tyrod and invest in some non-1st round QBs to try to develop. It wouldn't be a bad idea to develop the team more on offense for when the long term QB is found. IIRC ATL doens't gain much of anything from cutting Cousins, but he may be able to trade. I doubt Darnold's only criteria is money, so I doubt he comes back. They would have to be the highest bidder, especially with guranteed money. It's possible, though. Most pundits seem to think PIT keeps Fields, and he likes it there, so I doubt he's going to be available. I think that would be another situation where the Jets would have to be the highest bidder by a large margin. The realistic choices are thin IMO.

I would like them to use the 1st on BPA, so it won't be a QB, and go after a good vet who can be somewhat respectable on the field to keep the rest of the team involved, but who is a good teammate and mentor. If Travis has upside, then let him compete. They can also draft a QB like Dart or Milroe or Shough in the 2nd or 3rd to add to the competition and long term development. If none of the young guys are going to be long term guy, they can go after a QB next year. One of the problems the Jets have had with QBs IMO is that they often force it, and it winds up being a bad fit. Both Wilson and Rodgers were like that, for different reasons, but neither were a good fit.

I can write this post in the NYG thread too.

this is a good read…..issue i have is the rodgers cut and punting at qb this year. if you punt at qb, you are punting the year. heck, even with a qb, this seems like another punt year. this team is not close to anything and without a qb, even further away. that said, take the full hit this year. why go 14 then 35? if you punt this year and only take the 14, you’ll have that 35 hit in 2026. just punt it this year, take the full 49 in 2025 and start fresh in 2026 without the rodgers hit. of course, another year of losing and wasting the young guys hurts, but after these guys watching that pig becton win a ring, they likely might look to jump ship anyway. man, watching becton celebrate really eats at me. i know the eagles made him a guard, but still, he was such a complete waste.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

that said, take the full hit this year. why go 14 then 35? if you punt this year and only take the 14, you’ll have that 35 hit in 2026.

because the cap goes up significantly each season

 

[Kiddnets]

I think the Jets need to come to terms with the fact that they might have to just punt at the QB position this year and go for a stable vet like Brissett or Tyrod and invest in some non-1st round QBs to try to develop. It wouldn't be a bad idea to develop the team more on offense for when the long term QB is found. IIRC ATL doens't gain much of anything from cutting Cousins, but he may be able to trade. I doubt Darnold's only criteria is money, so I doubt he comes back. They would have to be the highest bidder, especially with guranteed money. It's possible, though. Most pundits seem to think PIT keeps Fields, and he likes it there, so I doubt he's going to be available. I think that would be another situation where the Jets would have to be the highest bidder by a large margin. The realistic choices are thin IMO.

I would like them to use the 1st on BPA, so it won't be a QB, and go after a good vet who can be somewhat respectable on the field to keep the rest of the team involved, but who is a good teammate and mentor. If Travis has upside, then let him compete. They can also draft a QB like Dart or Milroe or Shough in the 2nd or 3rd to add to the competition and long term development. If none of the young guys are going to be long term guy, they can go after a QB next year. One of the problems the Jets have had with QBs IMO is that they often force it, and it winds up being a bad fit. Both Wilson and Rodgers were like that, for different reasons, but neither were a good fit.

I can write this post in the NYG thread too.

this is a good read…..issue i have is the rodgers cut and punting at qb this year. if you punt at qb, you are punting the year. heck, even with a qb, this seems like another punt year. this team is not close to anything and without a qb, even further away. that said, take the full hit this year. why go 14 then 35? if you punt this year and only take the 14, you’ll have that 35 hit in 2026. just punt it this year, take the full 49 in 2025 and start fresh in 2026 without the rodgers hit. of course, another year of losing and wasting the young guys hurts, but after these guys watching that pig becton win a ring, they likely might look to jump ship anyway. man, watching becton celebrate really eats at me. i know the eagles made him a guard, but still, he was such a complete waste.

Im not ready to say they are punting at QB until we see who they end up with - it could be someone we are not even anticipating. Whether it was this year or next it was coming to an end - no one expected Rodgers to play more than 2-3 yrs - I totally understand the new regime ripping it off now and moving fwd.

Looking at the cap - if they do the post 6/1 cut they actually save almost $10M on the cap this year and after cutting Devante/Lazard and some others theyll have about $60M in space - enough to go after Fields/Darnold or just add some pieces. in 2026 the bigger hit comes in of $35 but they will have well over $100M in space without the cap even rising so will be much easier to absorb.

As for Becton - dude almost ate himself out of the league -- absolutely refused to play anything but LT for the Jets and was rated as one of the worst in the league. Good for him for turning it around but cant kill the Jets for that one - except if JD went with the easy pick of Wirfs instead of chasing upside...hated it then and obviously now. Sometimes a GM has to make the easy picks - like he did in Sauce, GW, JJ and Hall draft - stop making it so complicated.

 

[fatness]

I hope the Jets don't sign Cousins because he'll cost too much

Wouldn't Atlanta be responsible for most of his contract?

Yeah, you're right about that. $27.5 million I believe.

 

[jwb]

As for Becton - dude almost ate himself out of the league -- absolutely refused to play anything but LT for the Jets and was rated as one of the worst in the league. Good for him for turning it around but cant kill the Jets for that one - except if JD went with the easy pick of Wirfs instead of chasing upside...hated it then and obviously now. Sometimes a GM has to make the easy picks - like he did in Sauce, GW, JJ and Hall draft - stop making it so complicated.

It took the Jets' disinterest for Becton to realize his issues, turn it around, and also accept playing guard. If they resigned him I strongly feel it would have been same-old, same-old.

Sometimes there's nothing the drafting team could have done - it takes the rock-bottom of "nah, we're better off without you, thanks", and their 2nd/3rd team becomes the beneficiary.

 

[sheerterror]

As for Becton - dude almost ate himself out of the league -- absolutely refused to play anything but LT for the Jets and was rated as one of the worst in the league. Good for him for turning it around but cant kill the Jets for that one - except if JD went with the easy pick of Wirfs instead of chasing upside...hated it then and obviously now. Sometimes a GM has to make the easy picks - like he did in Sauce, GW, JJ and Hall draft - stop making it so complicated.

It took the Jets' disinterest for Becton to realize his issues, turn it around, and also accept playing guard. If they resigned him I strongly feel it would have been same-old, same-old.

Sometimes there's nothing the drafting team could have done - it takes the rock-bottom of "nah, we're better off without you, thanks", and their 2nd/3rd team becomes the beneficiary.

Especially in the case of the Eagles who are an offensive line development factory thanks to Stoutland.

 

[Witz]

Hmmm in the event Darnold sticks with Minnesota, how about Daniel Jones? :ducks:

 

[Chemical X]

i can’t even imagine darnold coming back to the nyj. personally, i don’t want to see him as a jet again. let someone else go that route. i simply don’t believe in him nor trust him. thing is, you need to draft top 5 to go franchise qb, these guys just don’t grow on trees, especially for teams that are historically inept at drafting. i don’t see coming across a qb thru FA. if that’s the case, what do the jets do? of the 32 starters at season end, roughly 26 were 1st round picks. 1-3 may have changed teams, like mayfield and darnold. jets are in a horrific spot imo. if you tank this year you might lose your young talent to apathy. i keep reading about jaxson dart. i don’t know enough about him and don’t follow college fb. are the jets psychotic enough to either take him at 7 or maneuver down, grab him in the first somewhere, have him learn a bit him behind a vet for 25 and then give it a go in 26 when you might have rodgers’ 35mm to contend with? as a lifelong jet fan i just need a franchise qb. someone who isn’t 40.

 

[rockaction]

Stafford says Abdul Carter will be gone at seven and do you want to take another hit-or-miss pass rusher at seven or would you like a guy that just went into Philly in the snow and almost pulled off the upset against a clearly superior team?

 

[sm8680]

When the New York Jets fans are comparing Becton and Darnold situations, players who found success elsewhere, it highlights their troubling situation. It's doubtful that the Jets' lack of interest in Becton was the motivation for his turnaround. More likely, his improvement came from joining a stable environment with arguably the best offensive line coach in the NFL. This isn't about criticizing the Jets; there's some positivity in their story. At least they're not as poorly managed as the Giants.

 

[Kiddnets]

When the New York Jets fans are comparing Becton and Darnold situations, players who found success elsewhere, it highlights their troubling situation. It's doubtful that the Jets' lack of interest in Becton was the motivation for his turnaround. More likely, his improvement came from joining a stable environment with arguably the best offensive line coach in the NFL. This isn't about criticizing the Jets; there's some positivity in their story. At least they're not as poorly managed as the Giants.

Becton's turnaround was certainly helped by joining a top organization like Philly - but a big part of it was being humbled and realizing he was close to being out of the league. He finally accepted he was not a left tackle and got in decent shape. Both he refused to do with the Jets. I blame the organization for many things - especially for even drafting Becton over a solid safe pick like Wirfs - but Becton put himself in that position where he was let go and almost out of the league.

 

[sm8680]

When the New York Jets fans are comparing Becton and Darnold situations, players who found success elsewhere, it highlights their troubling situation. It's doubtful that the Jets' lack of interest in Becton was the motivation for his turnaround. More likely, his improvement came from joining a stable environment with arguably the best offensive line coach in the NFL. This isn't about criticizing the Jets; there's some positivity in their story. At least they're not as poorly managed as the Giants.

Becton's turnaround was certainly helped by joining a top organization like Philly - but a big part of it was being humbled and realizing he was close to being out of the league. He finally accepted he was not a left tackle and got in decent shape. Both he refused to do with the Jets. I blame the organization for many things - especially for even drafting Becton over a solid safe pick like Wirfs - but Becton put himself in that position where he was let go and almost out of the league.

IMHO: Change of position, stable coaching, positive team culture, and injury management.

 

[Kiddnets]

When the New York Jets fans are comparing Becton and Darnold situations, players who found success elsewhere, it highlights their troubling situation. It's doubtful that the Jets' lack of interest in Becton was the motivation for his turnaround. More likely, his improvement came from joining a stable environment with arguably the best offensive line coach in the NFL. This isn't about criticizing the Jets; there's some positivity in their story. At least they're not as poorly managed as the Giants.

Becton's turnaround was certainly helped by joining a top organization like Philly - but a big part of it was being humbled and realizing he was close to being out of the league. He finally accepted he was not a left tackle and got in decent shape. Both he refused to do with the Jets. I blame the organization for many things - especially for even drafting Becton over a solid safe pick like Wirfs - but Becton put himself in that position where he was let go and almost out of the league.

IMHO: Change of position, stable coaching, positive team culture, and injury management.

Not unfair but the top thing on your list IMO is position change - he was literally the worst rated LT in the league and refused to move until he was cut and no one wanted him. The Jets new LT has looked great with the same lousy Jets team and coaching. Im upset at many things the Jets have screwed up but Becton leaving and finding success in Philly isnt one of them

 

[NYRAGE]

Now I will put Agnostic Front's "Friend or Foe" (demo version)

(demo version)

I love how you included that. Just in case we were about to throw on the album or single version.

No, ****ers. Demo version.

I love great production as much as anyone, but coming from an underground metal/punk/etc background, I just love the rawness of songs on a demo. Music at its purest level, but you and Sheer Terror know this. It was kind of a sly wink to the two of you.

 

[NYRAGE]

So what will the Jets do for a quarterback? Who do Jets fans want?
Justin Fields
Sam Darnold
Jalen Milroe
Jaxson Dart
Kyle McCord
trade up for Shedeur Sanders
trade up for Cam Ward
other: _____________

I don't know that the answer is there. Might need to draft a rookie qb in 2026.

Personally, I think Tyrod Taylor will be fine for as long as he is healthy...which historically isn't for very long, so they need someone else (veteran or mid-round QB), but a longer term solution is probably not available to 2026.

 

[sheerterror]

Now I will put Agnostic Front's "Friend or Foe" (demo version)

(demo version)

I love how you included that. Just in case we were about to throw on the album or single version.

No, ****ers. Demo version.

I love great production as much as anyone, but coming from an underground metal/punk/etc background, I just love the rawness of songs on a demo. Music at its purest level, but you and Sheer Terror know this. It was kind of a sly wink to the two of you.

Been listening to a lot of All Out War's 92 demo lately.

 

[Kiddnets]

Drifting into the quiet days before the combine/draft heats things up - really enjoyed all the great discussion in an otherwise brutal season - this thread was almost therapeutic for me lol.

Whats the thought on 2025 thread - Ive seen some pages just change the title and continue one long infinite thread and others start a new one each year.

As we started a fresh one last year I was thinking just do that again and bury this season's thread or is there value in continuing onward in one thread - it gets ridiculously long after a few seasons but it would be nice to have everything in one place I suppose - are there any thoughts on this? Is there a preference in general from @Joe Bryant or FBGs? Thx

 

[Joe Bryant]

Drifting into the quiet days before the combine/draft heats things up - really enjoyed all the great discussion in an otherwise brutal season - this thread was almost therapeutic for me lol.

Whats the thought on 2025 thread - Ive seen some pages just change the title and continue one long infinite thread and others start a new one each year.

As we started a fresh one last year I was thinking just do that again and bury this season's thread or is there value in continuing onward in one thread - it gets ridiculously long after a few seasons but it would be nice to have everything in one place I suppose - are there any thoughts on this? Is there a preference in general from @Joe Bryant or FBGs? Thx

Thanks GB. You did a great job managing the thread.

For whether to lock it and start a new one or just add to this one, I'm fine with whatever you folks like. I think if I did lean one way, it might be toward just keeping it to one thread and updating the title. But either way is great.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Drifting into the quiet days before the combine/draft heats things up - really enjoyed all the great discussion in an otherwise brutal season - this thread was almost therapeutic for me lol.

Whats the thought on 2025 thread - Ive seen some pages just change the title and continue one long infinite thread and others start a new one each year.

As we started a fresh one last year I was thinking just do that again and bury this season's thread or is there value in continuing onward in one thread - it gets ridiculously long after a few seasons but it would be nice to have everything in one place I suppose - are there any thoughts on this? Is there a preference in general from @Joe Bryant or FBGs? Thx

Thanks GB. You did a great job managing the thread.

For whether to lock it and start a new one or just add to this one, I'm fine with whatever you folks like. I think if I did lean one way, it might be toward just keeping it to one thread and updating the title. But either way is great.

Just speaking as a neutral fan, I always like keeping it to one thread with an updated title. Otherwise you get the "dueling threads" like we currently have for another team.

 

[Kiddnets]

Drifting into the quiet days before the combine/draft heats things up - really enjoyed all the great discussion in an otherwise brutal season - this thread was almost therapeutic for me lol.

Whats the thought on 2025 thread - Ive seen some pages just change the title and continue one long infinite thread and others start a new one each year.

As we started a fresh one last year I was thinking just do that again and bury this season's thread or is there value in continuing onward in one thread - it gets ridiculously long after a few seasons but it would be nice to have everything in one place I suppose - are there any thoughts on this? Is there a preference in general from @Joe Bryant or FBGs? Thx

Thanks GB. You did a great job managing the thread.

For whether to lock it and start a new one or just add to this one, I'm fine with whatever you folks like. I think if I did lean one way, it might be toward just keeping it to one thread and updating the title. But either way is great.

Just speaking as a neutral fan, I always like keeping it to one thread with an updated title. Otherwise you get the "dueling threads" like we currently have for another team.

The more I think about it the more I agree - it is nice to see the progression and have it all in one place without multiple threads.

Hopefully it will read as going from rock bottom to a massive turnaround Super Bowl title down the line lol

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Drifting into the quiet days before the combine/draft heats things up - really enjoyed all the great discussion in an otherwise brutal season - this thread was almost therapeutic for me lol.

Whats the thought on 2025 thread - Ive seen some pages just change the title and continue one long infinite thread and others start a new one each year.

As we started a fresh one last year I was thinking just do that again and bury this season's thread or is there value in continuing onward in one thread - it gets ridiculously long after a few seasons but it would be nice to have everything in one place I suppose - are there any thoughts on this? Is there a preference in general from @Joe Bryant or FBGs? Thx

Thanks GB. You did a great job managing the thread.

For whether to lock it and start a new one or just add to this one, I'm fine with whatever you folks like. I think if I did lean one way, it might be toward just keeping it to one thread and updating the title. But either way is great.

Just speaking as a neutral fan, I always like keeping it to one thread with an updated title. Otherwise you get the "dueling threads" like we currently have for another team.

The more I think about it the more I agree - it is nice to see the progression and have it all in one place without multiple threads.

Hopefully it will read as going from rock bottom to a massive turnaround Super Bowl title down the line lol

My home team thread goes back to early 2012. It's fun to go back and read some of those early posts.

 

[Zeppelin]

Drifting into the quiet days before the combine/draft heats things up - really enjoyed all the great discussion in an otherwise brutal season - this thread was almost therapeutic for me lol.

Whats the thought on 2025 thread - Ive seen some pages just change the title and continue one long infinite thread and others start a new one each year.

As we started a fresh one last year I was thinking just do that again and bury this season's thread or is there value in continuing onward in one thread - it gets ridiculously long after a few seasons but it would be nice to have everything in one place I suppose - are there any thoughts on this? Is there a preference in general from @Joe Bryant or FBGs? Thx

Thanks GB. You did a great job managing the thread.

For whether to lock it and start a new one or just add to this one, I'm fine with whatever you folks like. I think if I did lean one way, it might be toward just keeping it to one thread and updating the title. But either way is great.

Just speaking as a neutral fan, I always like keeping it to one thread with an updated title. Otherwise you get the "dueling threads" like we currently have for another team.

The more I think about it the more I agree - it is nice to see the progression and have it all in one place without multiple threads.

Hopefully it will read as going from rock bottom to a massive turnaround Super Bowl title down the line lol

My home team thread goes back to early 2012. It's fun to go back and read some of those early posts.

And there are 22K replies.

 

[jwb]

Hmmm in the event Darnold sticks with Minnesota, how about Daniel Jones? :ducks:

I thought this same thing. I'd at least like to see what he costs. We know he's fine with NY, and his teammates seemed to like him.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Hmmm in the event Darnold sticks with Minnesota, how about Daniel Jones? :ducks:

I thought this same thing. I'd at least like to see what he costs. We know he's fine with NY, and his teammates seemed to like him.

Jones to the Jets. Rodgers to the Giants.
How fun would that season be.

 

[N Zone]

The Rodgers news will intensify the quarterback conversation in the offseason, starting in free agency and going through the draft.

A name to watch in the draft: Jaxson Dart of Ole Miss.

Senior football adviser Rick Spielman raved about Dart last month at the Senior Bowl. At the time, he was an analyst on the CBS Sports podcast "With the First Pick." This was after his consulting gig with the Jets was over and before he was hired full time, so he probably felt he could speak more freely about prospects.

"I like Jaxson Dart a lot -- better and better and better," Spielman said on the podcast at the conclusion of the Senior Bowl practices. "It just looks like the position comes natural to him."

He praised Dart's "arm talent," saying it was more impressive in person than on tape. He said Dart had the "smoothest, quickest release" of any quarterback at the Senior Bowl. Spielman glowed about his intangibles, especially his toughness, leadership and intelligence.

"I came away impressed," he said.

Spielman agreed with the consensus that Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders are the top quarterback prospects and worthy of first-round status, but he said Dart could emerge as the QB3.

"I'm going to say this," Spielman said. "I don't know if there's another first-round quarterback after the first two, but the way Bo Nix started to surge last year coming out of this game, I would not be surprised if [Dart] ends up in the first round."

Nix was a late riser who wound up being drafted 12th by the Denver Broncos. The Jets own the seventh and 42nd picks. Seven probably is too high for Dart and 42nd might be too low, so it could require some maneuvering if they target Dart.

source: ESPN https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...on-rodgers-affect-davante-adams-garett-wilson

 

[Kiddnets]

The Rodgers news will intensify the quarterback conversation in the offseason, starting in free agency and going through the draft.

A name to watch in the draft: Jaxson Dart of Ole Miss.

Senior football adviser Rick Spielman raved about Dart last month at the Senior Bowl. At the time, he was an analyst on the CBS Sports podcast "With the First Pick." This was after his consulting gig with the Jets was over and before he was hired full time, so he probably felt he could speak more freely about prospects.

"I like Jaxson Dart a lot -- better and better and better," Spielman said on the podcast at the conclusion of the Senior Bowl practices. "It just looks like the position comes natural to him."

He praised Dart's "arm talent," saying it was more impressive in person than on tape. He said Dart had the "smoothest, quickest release" of any quarterback at the Senior Bowl. Spielman glowed about his intangibles, especially his toughness, leadership and intelligence.

"I came away impressed," he said.

Spielman agreed with the consensus that Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders are the top quarterback prospects and worthy of first-round status, but he said Dart could emerge as the QB3.

"I'm going to say this," Spielman said. "I don't know if there's another first-round quarterback after the first two, but the way Bo Nix started to surge last year coming out of this game, I would not be surprised if [Dart] ends up in the first round."

Nix was a late riser who wound up being drafted 12th by the Denver Broncos. The Jets own the seventh and 42nd picks. Seven probably is too high for Dart and 42nd might be too low, so it could require some maneuvering if they target Dart.

source: ESPN https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...on-rodgers-affect-davante-adams-garett-wilson

if they really like Dart then go get him - Id prefer to draft BPA at #7 and trade up for him from the 2d rd but we always see QBs rise late - dont recall many had McCarthy and Bo Nix going so high so if they have to pick him at #7 so be it - but at least trade down a few spots to recoup the lost 3rd - thx Devante - would be nice.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The Rodgers news will intensify the quarterback conversation in the offseason, starting in free agency and going through the draft.

A name to watch in the draft: Jaxson Dart of Ole Miss.

Senior football adviser Rick Spielman raved about Dart last month at the Senior Bowl. At the time, he was an analyst on the CBS Sports podcast "With the First Pick." This was after his consulting gig with the Jets was over and before he was hired full time, so he probably felt he could speak more freely about prospects.

"I like Jaxson Dart a lot -- better and better and better," Spielman said on the podcast at the conclusion of the Senior Bowl practices. "It just looks like the position comes natural to him."

He praised Dart's "arm talent," saying it was more impressive in person than on tape. He said Dart had the "smoothest, quickest release" of any quarterback at the Senior Bowl. Spielman glowed about his intangibles, especially his toughness, leadership and intelligence.

"I came away impressed," he said.

Spielman agreed with the consensus that Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders are the top quarterback prospects and worthy of first-round status, but he said Dart could emerge as the QB3.

"I'm going to say this," Spielman said. "I don't know if there's another first-round quarterback after the first two, but the way Bo Nix started to surge last year coming out of this game, I would not be surprised if [Dart] ends up in the first round."

Nix was a late riser who wound up being drafted 12th by the Denver Broncos. The Jets own the seventh and 42nd picks. Seven probably is too high for Dart and 42nd might be too low, so it could require some maneuvering if they target Dart.

source: ESPN https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...on-rodgers-affect-davante-adams-garett-wilson

if they really like Dart then go get him - Id prefer to draft BPA at #7 and trade up for him from the 2d rd but we always see QBs rise late - dont recall many had McCarthy and Bo Nix going so high so if they have to pick him at #7 so be it - but at least trade down a few spots to recoup the lost 3rd - thx Devante - would be nice.

In those quotes he didn’t necessarily express interest in any of those players, just speaking as to the draft itself and how it may play out.

Obviously any talk of QB is notable as it’s a need to say the least.

 

[TLEF316]

Starting to maybe, sorta kinda be ok with the idea of Jaxson Dart.

Maybe not at 7, but he shows some nice tools on tape

 

[fatness]

if they really like Dart then go get him - Id prefer to draft BPA at #7 and trade up for him from the 2d rd but we always see QBs rise late - dont recall many had McCarthy and Bo Nix going so high so if they have to pick him at #7 so be it - but at least trade down a few spots to recoup the lost 3rd - thx Devante - would be nice.

QB's rise every year as draft time approaches(deservedly or not), so it's likely to happen this year too.

 

[NYRAGE]

I was thinking earlier. I do not feel optimistic, but I will enjoy 2025 way more than the past 2 seasons. These have to be the two most disappointing seasons in over 50 years of following this team.

4 plays into 2023 and Rodgers tears his Achilles. Season is basically over. This is akin to us going undefeated in 2032 only for a meteor to hit the planet. We are forced to watch an inept Z Wilson and an even worse Hackett as OC.

Then this year, we start the season with decent expectations and we get man-handled on the ground against SF. Emasculation on tv. In week 2, we barely get past Tenn. In week 3, we steamroll NE, but lose Jermaine Johnson to a disastrous injury. Fine 2-1. We blow a game against Denver at home. We look terrible offensively. Rodgers single-handedly loses the game against the Vikings the following week with 3 INTs including that terrible pick-6. We-re 2-3 and fire Saleh. Hurray! Uh-oh, Ulbrich is even worse. Greg the awful leg blows 2 fgs next week against Buffalo to blow the game.

Then we're 2-4 and give up a third rounder for D Adams only to get destroyed by the Steelers. Greg the awful Leg strikes again and we lose to awful NE. Season over. 2-6. The defense mails it in the rest of the season and the offense continues to under-produce until a couple of games against a horrific Jaguars team and a Miami team basically on vacation a week early.

Oh boy, HOF Rodgers is back! Not really, he could barely get a first down against Buffalo the week before, and added lots of garbage points while forced to come from behind so much and his desperate need to get to 500 tds. Yet, consistently threw the ball into the dirt, missed wide open receivers and blamed them, refused to throw deep, and failed on 4th Qtr last drives time after time.

Anyway, nothing was worse than watching a team turtle on the season. A bunch of fat cats with no effort. Watching Sauce avoid tackles summed up the defense all season. Regardless of how bad we are this season, I think Glenn will not put up with the lack of effort. Accountability is something we didn't see the entire time with Saleh (and Ulbrich).

I would rather watch a team of try-hards than a team of lazy quitting bums. If you're a NY team, you have to be a blue collar team. Look at the NY Rangers this year. Another team of talented players that played heartless and quit for most of the season. Well, at least I'm optimistic that Glenn will require accountability and effort. Will the wins come with it? Unlikely for now, but hopefully Glenn and Mougey dump all the heartless quitters we saw this season.

 

[TLEF316]

Until you have a qb, you don't have anything.

And with the real possibility that we're gonna play next year with some form of stop gap qb, it's hard to be very excited.

Honestly just resigned to the idea that it's just never gonna happen. Don't ge me wrong, they'll make the playoffs again one day....but a title (or even super bowl appearance) in my lifetime (I'm 41)....not counting on it

 

[Snotbubbles]

Until you have a qb, you don't have anything.

And with the real possibility that we're gonna play next year with some form of stop gap qb, it's hard to be very excited.

Honestly just resigned to the idea that it's just never gonna happen. Don't ge me wrong, they'll make the playoffs again one day....but a title (or even super bowl appearance) in my lifetime (I'm 41)....not counting on it

The smart play is to be so bad that you get your choice of QBs next year. Spend this offseason and next bolstering your offensive line so when your rookie QB comes he's not running for his life.

 

[TLEF316]

Until you have a qb, you don't have anything.

And with the real possibility that we're gonna play next year with some form of stop gap qb, it's hard to be very excited.

Honestly just resigned to the idea that it's just never gonna happen. Don't ge me wrong, they'll make the playoffs again one day....but a title (or even super bowl appearance) in my lifetime (I'm 41)....not counting on it

The smart play is to be so bad that you get your choice of QBs next year. Spend this offseason and next bolstering your offensive line so when your rookie QB comes he's not running for his life.

The problem is every time the Jets try to do that....they win a useless game in December and ruin it...ya know....to build "positive team culture"

 

[Snotbubbles]

Until you have a qb, you don't have anything.

And with the real possibility that we're gonna play next year with some form of stop gap qb, it's hard to be very excited.

Honestly just resigned to the idea that it's just never gonna happen. Don't ge me wrong, they'll make the playoffs again one day....but a title (or even super bowl appearance) in my lifetime (I'm 41)....not counting on it

The smart play is to be so bad that you get your choice of QBs next year. Spend this offseason and next bolstering your offensive line so when your rookie QB comes he's not running for his life.

The problem is every time the Jets try to do that....they win a useless game in December and ruin it...ya know....to build "positive team culture"

Must be something in the water in New York.

 

[QuizGuy66]

With Dart do you think the Jets would trade back into the back half of round 1 to get that extra year of control? What kind of price would that be if he is sitting at like 30-32?

(Worked out pretty good for the Ratbirds when they did this with Lamar)

-QG

 

[Kiddnets]

With Dart do you think the Jets would trade back into the back half of round 1 to get that extra year of control? What kind of price would that be if he is sitting at like 30-32?

(Worked out pretty good for the Ratbirds when they did this with Lamar)

-QG

QBs are a unique thing - as we speak now I would say Jets can trade up from their early 2d rder to end of 1st for Dart if they like him - but if they really like him it may be safer to trade down a bit from #7.....and by draft night they may not want to risk it at all and just take him at #7. It all depends on how he grades out - the need is definitely there. If he grades out as a possible franchise QB they shouldnt hesitate. Not many people saw Nix and Pennix as top 15 picks this time last year.

 

[Kiddnets]

Shakir just signed extension for 4 yrs $60M - $15M per yr - Garret Wilson's going to demand at least $30M yr

Awful that they wasted the cheap years of an amazing draft class

 

[fatness]

Davante Adams is either going to be released or traded, but will still have a Taco Bell in his house.

 

[rockaction]

Woody Johnson is the only owner to receive a cumulative "F" from the NFLPA survey (That's "F" for failing, Woody, not "F" for football like in the NFLPA) that they give to the players at the end of the year.

My nephew (God bless him), who used to be a Patriots fan but disowned them after the Cincinnati cheating scandal loves to sing a song that we worked on. It goes

Brick and wood
Brick and Woody
Woody and Brick

like it's a TV theme for a situation comedy show or something. And it very well could be.

brick and wood
Brick and Woody
Woody and Brick