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Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (3 Viewers)

I wanted Fields over Zach originally. Only took a few years!
Me too.
Listen the guy has some accuracy issues and isn't the best at reading the field, but he has a strong arm and is one of the most exciting runners in the league - at least the offense will be entertaining to watch, and I think he still has upside as a passer. He's improved his completion % each season and was 4-2 as a starter last year.
 
Fields last yr - 4 wins 1 loss. 65% completion rate. 5 TDs to 1 int....rushed for 300 yds and 5 TDs. 26 yrs old. Right now 21st highest contract for a QB and will likely go down a few notches when others sign. Good signing!

I like it!

After seeing Geno and Sam having a rebirth, it would be nice to see the Jets benefit from a high pick "bust" qb growing into the role.
 
I really like the Fields signing. Not too much money at all for a QB and is still young enough to have some upside. Garrett Wilson is probably very happy as well to have his college QB throwing to him. (Fields in 13 games with DJ Moore 76 1153 9) Not expecting too much as a passer but it will be very nice to have some serious mobility back there.
 
Echoing a lot of what is written above I am pretty happy with this move. The options at QB for them this year were never going to be great. This one gives you a running threat at the very least and he is young enough and has the arm talent to develop into more than that potentially. More importantly the terms and length of the deal help you weather the Rodgers dead cap and don't marry you to him should it not work out. This doesn't stop them from continuing to look for their franchise QB if they see one they like, but they also don't have to reach for one now. It's a decent hedge bet in a year where the draft class is suspect at best. If we'd have gone with Tyrod Taylor as our week 1 starter I'd have been pretty uninspired. This might not work out, but it's the best direction they had available IMHO.
 
Lots of doom and loom as to Fields effect on GWill - D Moore has his best season with Fields....there are no other legit targets so hes gonna feed....they had a great connection from OSU and Gwill hated A-Rod. Anyone who is questioning GWill with this move run dont walk with a buy low offer!
 
Jets land DJ Red replacement - Brandon Stephens from Ravens - 3 yrs $36M

didnt watch him a lot but he wasnt on any of the top FA CB lists and Ravens forums are pretty happy to have him leave - seems like an overpay - id rather have kept Reed for the extra $3M
 
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Jets land DJ Red replacement - Brandon Stephens from Ravens - 3 yrs $36M

didnt watch him a lot but he wasnt on any of the top FA CB lists and Ravens forums are pretty happy to have him leave - seems like an overpay - id rather have kept Reed for the extra $3M
Stephens had a great 2023. Something went bad last year - he was awful. I don't know if he had some personal issues or what (it wasn't injuries). The Ravens, who are paranoid about DB depth, seemed to have felt no need to keep him. Hopefully, Stephens has it worked out. If so, and the Jets get the 2023 version, they made a really good signing.
 
Jets land DJ Red replacement - Brandon Stephens from Ravens - 3 yrs $36M

didnt watch him a lot but he wasnt on any of the top FA CB lists and Ravens forums are pretty happy to have him leave - seems like an overpay - id rather have kept Reed for the extra $3M
Stephens had a great 2023. Something went bad last year - he was awful. I don't know if he had some personal issues or what (it wasn't injuries). The Ravens, who are paranoid about DB depth, seemed to have felt no need to keep him. Hopefully, Stephens has it worked out. If so, and the Jets get the 2023 version, they made a really good signing.
thats what ive been reading as well - should have been more of a discount then with his awful 2024.....However gotta trust Glenn with corners - maybe he noticed something that can be fixed. Not thrilled but gonna trust them on this one.
 
Jets land DJ Red replacement - Brandon Stephens from Ravens - 3 yrs $36M

didnt watch him a lot but he wasnt on any of the top FA CB lists and Ravens forums are pretty happy to have him leave - seems like an overpay - id rather have kept Reed for the extra $3M
Stephens had a great 2023. Something went bad last year - he was awful. I don't know if he had some personal issues or what (it wasn't injuries). The Ravens, who are paranoid about DB depth, seemed to have felt no need to keep him. Hopefully, Stephens has it worked out. If so, and the Jets get the 2023 version, they made a really good signing.
thats what ive been reading as well - should have been more of a discount then with his awful 2024.....However gotta trust Glenn with corners - maybe he noticed something that can be fixed. Not thrilled but gonna trust them on this one.
I would trust Glenn at this point. Maybe Stephens and his coaches had a falling out (doesn't mean it was the player's fault). I do know the Ravens main DB coach left before last season to become DC at Tennessee and that change might have caused a rift.
 
The contract makes it a no-brainer really. He’s being paid less than Geno or Darnold and has more upside (admittedly they are safer and superior passers) and they can get out of the deal cheaply if it doesn’t work out - or extend him if it does.

I think this makes the season very interesting at the very least and it could have easily been a rebuild/throw away season.
 
There's a lot of positivity here. NYJ are known for signing ex Steelers who underperform. Santonio Holmes, Neil O'Donnell, LeVeon Bell, Mike Merriweather, and Plaxico Burress. Even had Bubby Brister and Mark Malone near the end of their careers. Alan Faneca had some short-term success until he was cut.
 
I wanted Fields over Zach originally. Only took a few years!
Me too.
Listen the guy has some accuracy issues and isn't the best at reading the field, but he has a strong arm and is one of the most exciting runners in the league - at least the offense will be entertaining to watch, and I think he still has upside as a passer. He's improved his completion % each season and was 4-2 as a starter last year.
I’m actually rooting for Fields to do well. I like the dude.

For the sake of Jets fans I hope this works out.
 
There's a lot of positivity here. NYJ are known for signing ex Steelers who underperform. Santonio Holmes, Neil O'Donnell, LeVeon Bell, Mike Merriweather, and Plaxico Burress. Even had Bubby Brister and Mark Malone near the end of their careers. Alan Faneca had some short-term success until he was cut.
Holmes and Faneca were actually good singings originally....got them to the AFCCG. We dont speak of ODonnel and Bell lol - definitely a Pitt pipeline!
 
Sherwood numbers out- backloaded as expected - $5M this year which is great. $11M in 2026 and then $19M in 2020 but can get out of year 3 with only a $7.5M hit and easy to extend restructure. Im sure the other two are structured similar so likely decent amount of cap left.
 
Honestly, Jets + Fields may well be the most Jets signing of all time.

Can you elaborate?
id like to hear as well - Jets deserve to not get the benefit of the doubt but i dont see how this is a bad signing based on the options.
I actually think the Jets win more games than Seattle or Las Vegas next season with the youngest and cheapest QB of the three that just changed teams.

That will be interesting.
 
Honestly, Jets + Fields may well be the most Jets signing of all time.

Can you elaborate?
id like to hear as well - Jets deserve to not get the benefit of the doubt but i dont see how this is a bad signing based on the options.
I’ve said it several times over the last couple of days - the Jets aren’t exactly known for developing young talent at the position.

Geno, Sam, Zach - in fact they’re pretty well known for doing the opposite of developing young talent at the position.

As such, I feel it’s the worst possible marriage of a QB who’s already been somewhat impeded in his development and an organization that is historically terrible at doing what is needed.

I didn’t want to go too much into that because 1. I’ve said it a few times, and 2. There’s some warm and fuzzy jets fans and I didn’t want to be perceived as peeing in their Cheerios.

Seems somewhat obvious. Maybe I’m out in left field. We all have our takes.
 
Honestly, Jets + Fields may well be the most Jets signing of all time.

Can you elaborate?
id like to hear as well - Jets deserve to not get the benefit of the doubt but i dont see how this is a bad signing based on the options.
I’ve said it several times over the last couple of days - the Jets aren’t exactly known for developing young talent at the position.

Geno, Sam, Zach - in fact they’re pretty well known for doing the opposite of developing young talent at the position.

As such, I feel it’s the worst possible marriage of a QB who’s already been somewhat impeded in his development and an organization that is historically terrible at doing what is needed.

I didn’t want to go too much into that because 1. I’ve said it a few times, and 2. There’s some warm and fuzzy jets fans and I didn’t want to be perceived as peeing in their Cheerios.

Seems somewhat obvious. Maybe I’m out in left field. We all have our takes.
No offense taken and we are fine with all takes here - Jets are champions of the offseason and then the wheels fall off usually - but all it takes is a good HC and QB so why not take a shot at the QB as I think Glenn will be a good HC

Not unfair looking at the past - tough to indict the present regime for the failings of the prior - I mean when did Buffalo develop a QB before Josh? KC before Reid/Mahomes?

I get the Jet history and take no offense at being the butt of jokes until they start winning but I just dont see what the better option was - Mariota? Wentz? Tyod? trading a haul for #1? Drafting Dart at #7? It also allowed them to rip off the Rodgers band aid and not keep kicking the inevitable monster hit down the line.

IMO this is the best option for now - its like Baker when he went to Tampa. If it clicks and he finally reaches his potential they have a young QB to lock in.....if hes bad well no real harm done. at least they should be watchable.
 
Fields should be fun here. Will be interesting to see for sure. And not expensive so there's room to move if things don't go as they want. And room to do a new deal next year if he's great.
Thinking of my Dolphin defense ... the AFC East has 3 of the top running QBs in the league. A big test for coordinator Anthony Weaver whose D performed better than expected, but has many holes to fill and not much cap space. I think Fields is underrated.
 
NYJ haven't had a winning season since what 2015. A better record than Las Vegas isn't saying much. Seattle > NYJ
They have one of the worst lines in the league and traded away 2 of their top 3 WRs, I think Darnold regresses a bit. Jets have a better defense.

I’m not saying it’s a lock or anything and I don’t think any of the three teams are legit contenders this season so it wouldn’t even have to be a winning season to lead the way.
 
IMO this is the best option for now - its like Baker when he went to Tampa. If it clicks and he finally reaches his potential they have a young QB to lock in.....if hes bad well no real harm done. at least they should be watchable.
I don’t disagree, but as mediocre as Russ is, he might have been a better fit to steady a QB need that’s been somewhat in flux for a long time now.

Again, I like Fields - I’m not sure he’s a leader. I could be wrong.

For y’all’s sake, I certainly hope so.
 
IMO this is the best option for now - its like Baker when he went to Tampa. If it clicks and he finally reaches his potential they have a young QB to lock in.....if hes bad well no real harm done. at least they should be watchable.
I don’t disagree, but as mediocre as Russ is, he might have been a better fit to steady a QB need that’s been somewhat in flux for a long time now.

Again, I like Fields - I’m not sure he’s a leader. I could be wrong.

For y’all’s sake, I certainly hope so.
I hope so too - mainly as all JEt fans are due for some good luck and a Baker like transformation would be awesome as developing a rookie QB is long and painful. However, unlike the Rodgers debacle there is less pressure on Fields and if it doesnt work out its easy to move on and take another swing. Its expected to be a rebuild year but they have a solid foundation. If Glenn is the coach we are hoping and Fields plays decent they could easily be playing meaningful games in December - if not then its just a bad rebuild year everyone was preparing for and there should be options at QB next draft.

After thinking about it I agree with Doc - I hope they take the full swing on Fields this year and use the draft to build the team - im rooting for a top OL/WR to complete the offense. If he hits it'll be like Tampa Bay and theyll finally have a young QB on a solid team. If it doesnt work out, they can use him as a bridge next year and ease a new rookie in with an even better supporting cast. The new regime will be allowed to take a swing so why not.
 
Honestly, Jets + Fields may well be the most Jets signing of all time.

Can you elaborate?
id like to hear as well - Jets deserve to not get the benefit of the doubt but i dont see how this is a bad signing based on the options.
I’ve said it several times over the last couple of days - the Jets aren’t exactly known for developing young talent at the position.

Geno, Sam, Zach - in fact they’re pretty well known for doing the opposite of developing young talent at the position.

As such, I feel it’s the worst possible marriage of a QB who’s already been somewhat impeded in his development and an organization that is historically terrible at doing what is needed.

I didn’t want to go too much into that because 1. I’ve said it a few times, and 2. There’s some warm and fuzzy jets fans and I didn’t want to be perceived as peeing in their Cheerios.

Seems somewhat obvious. Maybe I’m out in left field. We all have our takes.
New coaching staff. Past Jets QB history is irrelevant.
 
Jets sign Jax safety Andre Cisco 1 yr $10M

He had a solid few yrs then shaky last yr along with many other Jags. Jax forums not happy to lose him - think he was the victim of bad coaching and has upside with a real DC. Fills a need and reasonable contract.
 
Fields last yr - 4 wins 1 loss. 65% completion rate. 5 TDs to 1 int....rushed for 300 yds and 5 TDs. 26 yrs old. Right now 21st highest contract for a QB and will likely go down a few notches when others sign. Good signing!
2 years 40 million seems rather high IMO.

Maybe I shouldn’t compare it with Sam Darold contract last year with the Vikings was 1 year 10 million.

It says to me that if the Jets do draft a QB - he is probably sitting out the year.
 
Jets sign Jax safety Andre Cisco 1 yr $10M

He had a solid few yrs then shaky last yr along with many other Jags. Jax forums not happy to lose him - think he was the victim of bad coaching and has upside with a real DC. Fills a need and reasonable contract.
I was a little surprised they locked up Tony Adams. Wasn’t he benched briefly last year?
 
Jets sign Jax safety Andre Cisco 1 yr $10M

He had a solid few yrs then shaky last yr along with many other Jags. Jax forums not happy to lose him - think he was the victim of bad coaching and has upside with a real DC. Fills a need and reasonable contract.
I was a little surprised they locked up Tony Adams. Wasn’t he benched briefly last year?

You've actually been pretty spot-on so far, IMO. Always room for knowledgeable football fans in here. It's the people that antagonize deliberately and talk in tropes that we tend to dislike, but we're also not the Philly thread. Tony Adams was simply a tender, wasn't it? Regardless, eight out of the ten Jets DBs from last year were free agents. They had to do something somewhere.

As far as Fields goes, FootballGuys' own Matt Waldman writes articles and has specifically circled the Jets as one of the thirty-two teams that don't have a structure in place to develop a QB. I am not sanguine about Fields's chances in NY and think you're correct.

I would have much preferred Geno, although that's just a wish and I never get mine when it comes to this team. Most of us don't, actually, but damn they seem to cross all my football inclinations. The worst was signing Le'Veon Bell. I can't get over that. Truly awful.
 
Inconvenient to say the least that arguably the better 2 available QBs were both former Jets who suffered for their being drafted by NYJ.

A reunion was never likely for either.

Not likely, but Geno didn't really get run out of town with bad blood like some others have been. Darnold was never coming back because New York itself and its media were too bright-lights and big-city for him. Geno is different. He seems to enjoy the spotlight, so I thought maybe there would be a chance.

But it was all unlikely. He got his jaw broken here by a teammate and I don't remember the club handling it all too well. I think there was almost a bit of laughter in the media. Not cool.
 
I would have much preferred Geno, although that's just a wish and I never get mine when it comes to this team.
Inconvenient to say the least that arguably the better 2 available QBs were both former Jets who suffered for their being drafted by NYJ.

A reunion was never likely for either.
This is something I think people were downplaying a bit too much. I had a hard time believing that either Darnold or Geno would want to come back to the Jets if they had other options which they both certainly did (this is assuming Geno had any say in where he ended up). I never thought of either as a viable option this year which meant that your best options were running it back with Rodgers, trading for Stafford if he was actually even available (he wasn't) trading up for a QB in an uninspiring class, reaching for a QB in an uninspiring class, rolling with Tyrod Taylor or signing Mariota, Wentz or Fields. All things considered I think they made the best move they had available and it doesn't stop them from continuing to search for their QB of the future should it not work out.
 
All things considered I think they made the best move they had available and it doesn't stop them from continuing to search for their QB of the future should it not work out.

I think it's the best move they had available, but that doesn't mean I'm sanguine about it working out. They did the best they could for this year and next.

Believe me, I hope Fields turns the corner and becomes a competent passer. That would be wonderful. But the Jets don't have a very good line right now and they've got one good receiver. That's it. This is going to be a really tough year for them, IMO. Then after this tough year, they have to try to re-sign Wilson and Sauce (if they decide to go that route). I hope they save their 2026 picks because they're going to need them and they'll be most likely picking from a good position.
 
the Jets don't have a very good line right now
I don't believe this is true - they're above average in 3/5 of the line. Losing Moses puts them in a small hole but depending on a 35 year old RT is a shaky proposition anyway. Max Mitchell is a bit shaky but maybe the new coaching staff is better suited to build a line.

I agree they need to add some weapons to support Fields but being 3 deep at RB helps in what will likely be a run heavy offense. They should be adding a veteran WR in free agency and maybe a few picks at the position. Maybe this coaching staff can get something from Malachi Corley - I think he could be a weapon is used correctly.

But yes, there's still a lot of work to do - right now, at best, they are a borderline playoff team - I don't think Miami or New England will be very good this season (especially if Miami is forced to trade Hill) so getting to 8-9 wins doesn't seem like an outrageous ask.
 
But yes, there's still a lot of work to do - right now, at best, they are a borderline playoff team

That is very optimistic.
is it - 7/8 wins?

They won 5 games last season with a defense that gave up after Salah was fired and with Rodgers playing very poorly for a large part of the season. I'm not proclaiming them a playoff team, I just think they should be in the mix (they're not close to legit title contenders).

Obviously the projection I'm making requires Fields to improve as a passer - and he's shown small steps each season on that. Fields was 4-2 as a starter last season, and it's not like that was some great roster either as evidenced by what happened the rest of the season. Say what you will about his passing, but Fields rushing ability can be a nightmare for DCs.
 
I don't believe this is true - they're above average in 3/5 of the line.

They lost both their tackles. They have Fashanu, but he's an unknown and Mitchell is okay, I guess. He's pretty mediocre. Fashanu hopefully develops. Tackle is a pretty glaring position to be missing out on because you need absolute physical freaks to play it. They're not as bad off as they once were, but they could be a lot better.
 
Given the options, I like the Fields signing. Maybe he continues to disappoint everywhere he goes and he is what he'll always be. But he's 26 and I think Glenn has a lot of leeway to experiment.
 

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