Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (3 Viewers)

[Kiddnets]

Woody in complete denial? He should not be allowed near a microphone.

Johnson claimed he’s been “impressed with [Fields] since his college days,” before adding that “it was [Fields] or Trevor Lawrence,” in reference to the 2021 NFL Draft.

Johnson seems to be forgetting the quarterback his own team selected second overall that same year.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Johnson seems to be forgetting the quarterback his own team selected second overall that same year.

I wish we all could.

 

[rockaction]

Johnson seems to be forgetting the quarterback his own team selected second overall that same year.

He hasn't forgotten. It's Woody. That's his way of shifting blame to Joe D for picking him. See, Woody has meddled and doesn't want people to think he meddled in that decision because it was such a bad one.

Woody, shut up. Nobody wants excuses and what are obvious attempts to deflect blame away from yourself because you're really a good, caring owner. Stop it. It's fooling nobody.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Johnson seems to be forgetting the quarterback his own team selected second overall that same year.

He hasn't forgotten. It's Woody. That's his way of shifting blame to Joe D for picking him. See, Woody has meddled and doesn't want people to think he meddled in that decision because it was such a bad one.

Woody, shut up. Nobody wants excuses and what are obvious attempts to deflect blame away from yourself because you're really a good, caring owner. Stop it. It's fooling nobody.

That was my first thought when I read the quote. He was throwing JD under the bus and trying to imply he wasn’t behind bringing Wilson in at all (he was).

 

[jwb]

I think we're reading waaay too much into AG's Breece comments. At this time of year, isn't that just fluff/coachspeak, especially for a new coach? Of course he's going to say we have a good rb room, 3 guys, etc.

 

[rockaction]

I think we're reading waaay too much into AG's Breece comments. At this time of year, isn't that just fluff/coachspeak, especially for a new coach? Of course he's going to say we have a good rb room, 3 guys, etc.

Are we though? I wasn't. I thought he was saying all jobs are open and that everything is a competition. I can't fault him for that. Breece, Isaiah, and Braelon battling it out fair and square. But he also said he likes committees. It was a little stronger than boilerplate coachspeak.

The other troubling thing is that he spoke openly of extending Sauce and Garrett Wilson and said nothing about Breece, who is in the last year of his contract and if he had had a good year last year might already be extended. So that's looming over everybody's head. Are you going to pay a non-premium position the big-time dollars that he's going to demand or could command on the open market? I don't think they are. So their thinking might be to let him walk and get something for him rather than nothing. I can totally see that.

And that's because I don't think they're competing for anything this year and they know it. They're coming into change the culture. How many times have you heard that the past few months. Usually that's not a win-now sentiment.

So I didn't want to overreact, but there are a lot of things pointing to this being very possible.

eta* for grammar and clarity

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I think we're reading waaay too much into AG's Breece comments. At this time of year, isn't that just fluff/coachspeak, especially for a new coach? Of course he's going to say we have a good rb room, 3 guys, etc.

Yes - but I wouldn't be shocked if they did trade Breece. It may even make some sense to do it even though I hope they do not. But you're right every coach talks about 3 way RBBCs or using 2 RBs in the backfield at once, but once the real bullets fly that rarely happens.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I think we're reading waaay too much into AG's Breece comments. At this time of year, isn't that just fluff/coachspeak, especially for a new coach? Of course he's going to say we have a good rb room, 3 guys, etc.

Yes - but I wouldn't be shocked if they did trade Breece. It may even make some sense to do it even though I hope they do not. But you're right every coach talks about 3 way RBBCs or using 2 RBs in the backfield at once, but once the real bullets fly that rarely happens.

I could see it too.

With the smashing success of Barkley, I can see other teams getting excited about trading for a top RB.

But like with any trade, it would all come down to the compensation.

What would y'all feel is fair value for Hall?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

What would y'all feel is fair value for Hall?

It’s his last year of a rookie contract coming off a down season so they would likely get a day 3 pick at best.

I’d prefer to keep the weapons they have, but would understand moving on from Breece if somehow they could get a 3rd.

 

[Kiddnets]

What would y'all feel is fair value for Hall?

It’s his last year of a rookie contract coming off a down season so they would likely get a day 3 pick at best.

I’d prefer to keep the weapons they have, but would understand moving on from Breece if somehow they could get a 3rd.

Technically they dont need to extend him - extend Sauce and Wilson then franchise Breece after this yr as teams do with most RBs. I wouldnt deal him unless its a 2d which I doubt he would fetch at this point

 

[Kiddnets]

Johnson seems to be forgetting the quarterback his own team selected second overall that same year.

He hasn't forgotten. It's Woody. That's his way of shifting blame to Joe D for picking him. See, Woody has meddled and doesn't want people to think he meddled in that decision because it was such a bad one.

Woody, shut up. Nobody wants excuses and what are obvious attempts to deflect blame away from yourself because you're really a good, caring owner. Stop it. It's fooling nobody.

That was my first thought when I read the quote. He was throwing JD under the bus and trying to imply he wasn’t behind bringing Wilson in at all (he was).

ridiculous - how did the supposed tough NY press not ask an obvious follow up or two for that one!

 

[rockaction]

What would y'all feel is fair value for Hall?

I think I should begin by saying that they won't get fair value for Hall because his contract is expiring and the Jets aren't likely to pay him, which I think is something the other teams know. So the Jets have no real leverage to begin with. That said, I gently disagree with Dr. Octopus about Day Three. I was talking in the Breece thread about what I thought was appropriate and I think it's a Day Two pick. I would like a second, but knowing what everybody knows, it's likely to be a third. I'm not sure that's enough, but I'm not the Jets brass.

My thoughts are also colored by something that is becoming more apparent to me, and that is the Jets aren't really looking to win this year. I mean, they want to win, but they're looking to "change the culture," as we've heard so often these past few months since Aaron Glenn was hired. That doesn't usually foretell a win-now mindset, and given that, the Jets might indeed be willing to part with Breece for a third or even a fourth.

Personally, I don't think a fourth-round pick suffices. I'd rather hold onto him for the year with the hopes maybe he recaptures the magic of his rookie year that was cut short abruptly, and perhaps the Jets could then extend him at a reasonable rate.

To sum it all up, fair value would be a second-round pick. The market value is more like a third. There's a difference and the Jets are between a rock and hard place with Hall, and he with them.

 

[TLEF316]

Yeah, the potential for breece to become a top 5 back is much more enticing than a 3rd round pick.

The potential hurdle comes if he decides he gonna "hold in" this summer if he doesn't get a new deal.

 

[Joe Bryant]

What would y'all feel is fair value for Hall?

I think I should begin by saying that they won't get fair value for Hall because his contract is expiring and the Jets aren't likely to pay him, which I think is something the other teams know. So the Jets have no real leverage to begin with. That said, I gently disagree with Dr. Octopus about Day Three. I was talking in the Breece thread about what I thought was appropriate and I think it's a Day Two pick. I would like a second, but knowing what everybody knows, it's likely to be a third. I'm not sure that's enough, but I'm not the Jets brass.

My thoughts are also colored by something that is becoming more apparent to me, and that is the Jets aren't really looking to win this year. I mean, they want to win, but they're looking to "change the culture," as we've heard so often these past few months since Aaron Glenn was hired. That doesn't usually foretell a win-now mindset, and given that, the Jets might indeed be willing to part with Breece for a third or even a fourth.

Personally, I don't think a fourth-round pick suffices. I'd rather hold onto him for the year with the hopes maybe he recaptures the magic of his rookie year that was cut short abruptly, and perhaps the Jets could then extend him at a reasonable rate.

To sum it all up, fair value would be a second-round pick. The market value is more like a third. There's a difference and the Jets are between a rock and hard place with Hall, and he with them.

Thanks GB.

We could use this to launch into a really good bigger discussion.

This is semantics but it's interesting to talk fair value and market value. As I tend to think more it's ALL market value.

One's value will often differ from market value with "fair" being when my valuation lands above the market's. And of course "unfair", if my valuation lands below the market's.

And all the situations factor. They too are neither fair or unfair. They just are. Last year of contract. Team hesitant to pay. Chance he'll be free agent. All those are huge components that go into the all important "value".

And you know all this, I know. I just find it interesting to talk out loud on it sometimes.

It's a fun puzzle.

 

[Kiddnets]

What would y'all feel is fair value for Hall?

I think I should begin by saying that they won't get fair value for Hall because his contract is expiring and the Jets aren't likely to pay him, which I think is something the other teams know. So the Jets have no real leverage to begin with. That said, I gently disagree with Dr. Octopus about Day Three. I was talking in the Breece thread about what I thought was appropriate and I think it's a Day Two pick. I would like a second, but knowing what everybody knows, it's likely to be a third. I'm not sure that's enough, but I'm not the Jets brass.

My thoughts are also colored by something that is becoming more apparent to me, and that is the Jets aren't really looking to win this year. I mean, they want to win, but they're looking to "change the culture," as we've heard so often these past few months since Aaron Glenn was hired. That doesn't usually foretell a win-now mindset, and given that, the Jets might indeed be willing to part with Breece for a third or even a fourth.

Personally, I don't think a fourth-round pick suffices. I'd rather hold onto him for the year with the hopes maybe he recaptures the magic of his rookie year that was cut short abruptly, and perhaps the Jets could then extend him at a reasonable rate.

To sum it all up, fair value would be a second-round pick. The market value is more like a third. There's a difference and the Jets are between a rock and hard place with Hall, and he with them.

Thanks GB.

We could use this to launch into a really good bigger discussion.

This is semantics but it's interesting to talk fair value and market value. It's ALL market value.

One's value will often differ from market value with "fair" being when my valuation lands above the market's. And of course "unfair", if my valuation lands below the market's.

And all the situations factor. They too are neither fair or unfair. They just are. Last year of contract. Team hesitant to pay. Chance he'll be free agent. All those are huge components that go into the all important "value".

And you know all this, I know. I just find it interesting to talk out loud on it sometimes.

It's a fun puzzle.

Agreed on value fluctuating depending on situation - all this speculation was from one quote from the new coach. Could be a window....could be a throw away line...could be a draft smokescreen...could be anything.

As for value - the reality is Breece is a perfect buy low for teams in that he is coming off a down year which was post ACL and a team that fell apart. If AG thinks hes the real deal then they can easily sit on him the next 3 yrs for a reasonable amount so no need to deal. If he truly likes the other 2 RBs and is one of those never pay RB guys then he'll likely be dealt for best offer which is likely well below what most Jet fans see as value for him.

Looking at where AG came from - I think he values RBs - especially a 1-2 punch like Monty and Gibbs where both have shown value. I think Breece stays as the lead RB and the other 2 fight it out to be the 2d option.

 

[Kiddnets]

Jets keep Lazard - looks like for $2.5M which is pretty cheap. They need bodies at WR and while hes been lousy for this much of a cut why not - also would have been $8M cap hit to cut him.

Jets and wide receiver Allen Lazard reached agreement on a restructured contract, as
@Jason_OTC reported. Lazard, who was scheduled to earn $11 million in 2025, took an $8.5 million pay cut to remain under contract with the Jets, who are guaranteeing $1.75 million of his salary for the upcoming season.

 

[Joe Bryant]

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1910308896305979803

Jets and wide receiver Allen Lazard reached agreement on a restructured contract, as @Jason_OTC reported. Lazard, who was scheduled to earn $11 million in 2025, took an $8.5 million pay cut to remain under contract with the Jets, who are guaranteeing $1.75 million of his salary for the upcoming season.

Wait, is Aaron Rodgers still running the Jets?

I was told the only reason Lazard had a job in the NFL was because Rodgers held the team hostage and demanded the Jets sign all his completely incompetent receiver friends.

 

[Joe Bryant]

On a more serious note, I would guess it’s right along what Rodgers implied in the past. And that's a significant pay cut. Some players, and of course, people in all areas of life, bring intangible value beyond the surface. Sometimes you need your guys and that may go beyond the field.

 

[Kiddnets]

On a more serious note, I would guess it’s right along what Rodgers implied in the past. And that's a significant pay cut. Some players, and of course, people in all areas of life, bring intangible value beyond the surface. Sometimes you need your guys and that may go beyond the field.

Much different than the Rodgers hostages lol - Looking at Lazard's contract it would have been an $8M hit to dump him - now they keep him for $2M - so likely a numbers game although final may change based on dead money a bit. Bottom line they needed bodies and this is a cheap one they at least know.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Jets keep Lazard - looks like for $2.5M which is pretty cheap.

They're probably waiting to trade him to the Steelers.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I was told the only reason Lazard had a job in the NFL was because Rodgers held the team hostage and demanded the Jets sign all his completely incompetent receiver friends.

That's not what was said.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Rodgers insists on making his boy Lazard the star of the offense - it's the last guy the offense should feature.

I know Rodgers gives us hope, and he's the best QB we've seen on this team in years but the guy has done just as much damage to this franchise as good with brining in his good ol' boy network, which includes the worst OC in the league.

It's not a big deal. But this was the common vibe last year.

 

[Joe Bryant]

As far as the actual news for Lazard, I think it's a good move for the Jets. I think he's a serviceable WR and clearly he brings value beyond the box score.

But I've thought that for a while.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Rodgers insists on making his boy Lazard the star of the offense - it's the last guy the offense should feature.

I know Rodgers gives us hope, and he's the best QB we've seen on this team in years but the guy has done just as much damage to this franchise as good with brining in his good ol' boy network, which includes the worst OC in the league.

It's not a big deal. But this was the common vibe last year.

That doesn't really come close to saying what you said was said. It came across as a disingenuous "gotcha" slam that's prevalent in the Sharkpool and the reason I don't bother posting there anymore.

I'm going to move along though. You're right it's not worth it.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Rodgers insists on making his boy Lazard the star of the offense - it's the last guy the offense should feature.

I know Rodgers gives us hope, and he's the best QB we've seen on this team in years but the guy has done just as much damage to this franchise as good with brining in his good ol' boy network, which includes the worst OC in the league.

It's not a big deal. But this was the common vibe last year.

That doesn't really come close to saying what you said was said. It came across as a disingenuous "gotcha" slam that's prevalent in the Sharkpool and the reason I don't bother posting there anymore.

I'm going to move along though. You're right it's not worth it.

No gotcha slam. Certainly not disengenuous. I don't have time for that. Or gaslighting.

And I don't see much of that in the Shark Pool here. I'm sure there's some but way less than most places. I just thought it was an interesting move from the Jets. And one I like.

And I'm also talking about discussion well beyond the Shark Pool. I love this place but I read a lot in other places too. And the Lazard only there as good ol boy network was prevalent.

 

[sheerterror]

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1910308896305979803

Jets and wide receiver Allen Lazard reached agreement on a restructured contract, as @Jason_OTC reported. Lazard, who was scheduled to earn $11 million in 2025, took an $8.5 million pay cut to remain under contract with the Jets, who are guaranteeing $1.75 million of his salary for the upcoming season.

Wait, is Aaron Rodgers still running the Jets?

I was told the only reason Lazard had a job in the NFL was because Rodgers held the team hostage and demanded the Jets sign all his completely incompetent receiver friends.

Slashing his bloated contract 85% to the $2.5M that he's actually worth is incomparable to the deal he was gifted to pair with Rodgers during that bust of a run.

 

[Joe Bryant]

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1910308896305979803

Jets and wide receiver Allen Lazard reached agreement on a restructured contract, as @Jason_OTC reported. Lazard, who was scheduled to earn $11 million in 2025, took an $8.5 million pay cut to remain under contract with the Jets, who are guaranteeing $1.75 million of his salary for the upcoming season.

Wait, is Aaron Rodgers still running the Jets?

I was told the only reason Lazard had a job in the NFL was because Rodgers held the team hostage and demanded the Jets sign all his completely incompetent receiver friends.

Slashing his bloated contract 85% to the $2.5M that he's actually worth is incomparable to the deal he was gifted to pair with Rodgers during that bust of a run.

For sure, as I said, the salary cut is big. It's the reality for older WRs as well.

 

[sheerterror]

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1910308896305979803

Jets and wide receiver Allen Lazard reached agreement on a restructured contract, as @Jason_OTC reported. Lazard, who was scheduled to earn $11 million in 2025, took an $8.5 million pay cut to remain under contract with the Jets, who are guaranteeing $1.75 million of his salary for the upcoming season.

Wait, is Aaron Rodgers still running the Jets?

I was told the only reason Lazard had a job in the NFL was because Rodgers held the team hostage and demanded the Jets sign all his completely incompetent receiver friends.

Slashing his bloated contract 85% to the $2.5M that he's actually worth is incomparable to the deal he was gifted to pair with Rodgers during that bust of a run.

For sure, as I said, the salary cut is big. It's the reality for older WRs as well.

The salary cut is why he is still on this team. The reason he was here on said atrocious contract was your buddy Rodgers. Which you originally brought up in a mocking manner.

 

[Joe Bryant]

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1910308896305979803

Jets and wide receiver Allen Lazard reached agreement on a restructured contract, as @Jason_OTC reported. Lazard, who was scheduled to earn $11 million in 2025, took an $8.5 million pay cut to remain under contract with the Jets, who are guaranteeing $1.75 million of his salary for the upcoming season.

Wait, is Aaron Rodgers still running the Jets?

I was told the only reason Lazard had a job in the NFL was because Rodgers held the team hostage and demanded the Jets sign all his completely incompetent receiver friends.

Slashing his bloated contract 85% to the $2.5M that he's actually worth is incomparable to the deal he was gifted to pair with Rodgers during that bust of a run.

For sure, as I said, the salary cut is big. It's the reality for older WRs as well.

The salary cut is why he is still on this team. The reason he was here on said atrocious contract was your buddy Rodgers. Which you originally brought up in a mocking manner.

"My buddy"? Ah, this makes more sense now. Thanks.

For Football, as I said, I like the move for the Jets.

 

[NYRAGE]

So are you rooting for Warren, Membou, or other? Hopefully we can trade down a few spots. This is the least exciting draft that I can remember.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

So are you rooting for Warren, Membou, or other? Hopefully we can trade down a few spots. This is the least exciting draft that I can remember.

I’d like them to trade down for Warren but that doesn’t always work out. I’m ok with Membou or Campbell whichever falls.

I wouldn’t hate Sanders generally but would at 7. I’d go with a OT if they can’t trade down.

 

[Kiddnets]

So are you rooting for Warren, Membou, or other? Hopefully we can trade down a few spots. This is the least exciting draft that I can remember.

Id prefer finishing off the OL - but could live with any offensive position really. The defense has enough talent and with AG scheme should be fine - O still has a ways to go.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

So are you rooting for Warren, Membou, or other? Hopefully we can trade down a few spots. This is the least exciting draft that I can remember.

Id prefer finishing off the OL - but could live with any offensive position really. The defense has enough talent and with AG scheme should be fine - O still has a ways to go.

They need to find a way to add a weapon in the passing game beside Wilson. Lazard, Reynolds and Johnson are depth and who knows if Corley turns into anything. Nothing really at TE either.

Warren at 7 would be too high to take a TE but wouldn’t hate it only because they need impact offensive players somehow. Would love to trade down with NO or Pitt if Sanders falls (but those things are rare).

 

[RC94]

Warren would be great if they trade down, but there are other good TEs in this draft. The Jets have an opportunitiy to finish creating one of the best offensive lines in the league by getting Membou or Campbell. That would help drive the entire offense.

ETA - Also, I don't think it will be that easy to trade down anyway. If someone wants to trade up, it will most likely be to jump the Saints to get Sanders. The next team in the draft order that needs a QB is PIT at 21 and I don't see them trading up.

 

[Kiddnets]

Warren would be great if they trade down, but there are other good TEs in this draft. The Jets have an opportunitiy to finish creating one of the best offensive lines in the league by getting Membou or Campbell. That would help drive the entire offense.

ETA - Also, I don't think it will be that easy to trade down anyway. If someone wants to trade up, it will most likely be to jump the Saints to get Sanders. The next team in the draft order that needs a QB is PIT at 21 and I don't see them trading up.

Agreed on all - OL would help in so many ways but they are hurting for weapons as well. Id like to see OL in 1st and then WR/TE in 2d rd for 2 hopeful immediate contributors.

Trade downs always sound good but unless a team is super hot for a QB they rarely pay off. Plus Warren is so highly regarded that even though most agree hes a little high at #7 - if thats the guy they target as cant miss then they may not want to risk losing him for an extra 3rd or 4th rder. I really dont want to drop to #21 - they need more blue chip talent on O.

 

[RC94]

Warren would be great if they trade down, but there are other good TEs in this draft. The Jets have an opportunitiy to finish creating one of the best offensive lines in the league by getting Membou or Campbell. That would help drive the entire offense.

ETA - Also, I don't think it will be that easy to trade down anyway. If someone wants to trade up, it will most likely be to jump the Saints to get Sanders. The next team in the draft order that needs a QB is PIT at 21 and I don't see them trading up.

Agreed on all - OL would help in so many ways but they are hurting for weapons as well. Id like to see OL in 1st and then WR/TE in 2d rd for 2 hopeful immediate contributors.

Trade downs always sound good but unless a team is super hot for a QB they rarely pay off. Plus Warren is so highly regarded that even though most agree hes a little high at #7 - if thats the guy they target as cant miss then they may not want to risk losing him for an extra 3rd or 4th rder. I really dont want to drop to #21 - they need more blue chip talent on O.

That's how I see it too. Elite OL in the 1st and then the value for WR and TE is on day 2. They can get a good WR in the 2nd or 3rd, but TE in particular is interesting on day 2 with players like Taylor, Arroyo and Fannin. They would all be significant upgrades at TE.

 

[Kiddnets]

Warren would be great if they trade down, but there are other good TEs in this draft. The Jets have an opportunitiy to finish creating one of the best offensive lines in the league by getting Membou or Campbell. That would help drive the entire offense.

ETA - Also, I don't think it will be that easy to trade down anyway. If someone wants to trade up, it will most likely be to jump the Saints to get Sanders. The next team in the draft order that needs a QB is PIT at 21 and I don't see them trading up.

Agreed on all - OL would help in so many ways but they are hurting for weapons as well. Id like to see OL in 1st and then WR/TE in 2d rd for 2 hopeful immediate contributors.

Trade downs always sound good but unless a team is super hot for a QB they rarely pay off. Plus Warren is so highly regarded that even though most agree hes a little high at #7 - if thats the guy they target as cant miss then they may not want to risk losing him for an extra 3rd or 4th rder. I really dont want to drop to #21 - they need more blue chip talent on O.

That's how I see it too. Elite OL in the 1st and then the value for WR and TE is on day 2. They can get a good WR in the 2nd or 3rd, but TE in particular is interesting on day 2 with players like Taylor, Arroyo and Fannin. They would all be significant upgrades at TE.

Lions drafted LaPorta in the high part of round 2 and that paid off good dividends - I cant see them ok with Rucker as the starter so Im thinking TE is definitely day 1 or 2 pick.

Jets have an awful history of picking WRs after the 1st rd but its also a real need - 1st 3 picks on O then mix in Def at that point

 

[sheerterror]

So are you rooting for Warren, Membou, or other? Hopefully we can trade down a few spots. This is the least exciting draft that I can remember.

Id prefer finishing off the OL - but could live with any offensive position really. The defense has enough talent and with AG scheme should be fine - O still has a ways to go.

They need to find a way to add a weapon in the passing game beside Wilson. Lazard, Reynolds and Johnson are depth and who knows if Corley turns into anything. Nothing really at TE either.

Warren at 7 would be too high to take a TE but wouldn’t hate it only because they need impact offensive players somehow. Would love to trade down with NO or Pitt if Sanders falls (but those things are rare).

Imagine they had drafted JSN and/or Bowers....

 

[Kiddnets]

So are you rooting for Warren, Membou, or other? Hopefully we can trade down a few spots. This is the least exciting draft that I can remember.

Id prefer finishing off the OL - but could live with any offensive position really. The defense has enough talent and with AG scheme should be fine - O still has a ways to go.

They need to find a way to add a weapon in the passing game beside Wilson. Lazard, Reynolds and Johnson are depth and who knows if Corley turns into anything. Nothing really at TE either.

Warren at 7 would be too high to take a TE but wouldn’t hate it only because they need impact offensive players somehow. Would love to trade down with NO or Pitt if Sanders falls (but those things are rare).

Imagine they had drafted JSN and/or Bowers....

Agree on JSN as not quite as high on WMcD. JSN/Gwill would have been a dynamic pairing

But I cant complain on Olu over Bowers as its very valuable to have a solid LT for the next decade.

 

[sheerterror]

So are you rooting for Warren, Membou, or other? Hopefully we can trade down a few spots. This is the least exciting draft that I can remember.

Id prefer finishing off the OL - but could live with any offensive position really. The defense has enough talent and with AG scheme should be fine - O still has a ways to go.

They need to find a way to add a weapon in the passing game beside Wilson. Lazard, Reynolds and Johnson are depth and who knows if Corley turns into anything. Nothing really at TE either.

Warren at 7 would be too high to take a TE but wouldn’t hate it only because they need impact offensive players somehow. Would love to trade down with NO or Pitt if Sanders falls (but those things are rare).

Imagine they had drafted JSN and/or Bowers....

Agree on JSN as not quite as high on WMcD. JSN/Gwill would have been a dynamic pairing

But I cant complain on Olu over Bowers as its very valuable to have a solid LT for the next decade.

JSN was such a no brainer. They had just brought Rodgers in, and had the ability to pick the 1st WR drafted that year when it was in fact a position of need, who also happened to be college teammates with their already stud Wilson.

I agree in general about Olu/T...but to be honest, theyre in just as good of a position to draft a completely comparable T right now in the top 10 this year. Olu seems fine-good right now (I'll yield to you guys on the particulars of the o line play) but I don't think he's some sort of instant cornerstone franchise piece the way Bowers seems to be. Bowers is already a top 10 weapon in the league. Obviously all of this is revisionist history and irrelevant anyway as it's with the old regime.

 

[zamboni]

I have a feeling they’re going to fill out the WR roster with one or more unsigned has-beens like Cooper, Keenan Allen, etc.

 

[Kiddnets]

I have a feeling they’re going to fill out the WR roster with one or more unsigned has-beens like Cooper, Keenan Allen, etc.

possible - would much prefer a rd 2 or 3 WR - it really is sad that Corley was a high 3rd rd WR they traded up for and he isnt even in the conversation!

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I have a feeling they’re going to fill out the WR roster with one or more unsigned has-beens like Cooper, Keenan Allen, etc.

I think Cooper signed with the Bills.

I could see maybe Allen on a one year deal - but I would imagine he's holding out for a contender showing interest.

 

[zamboni]

I have a feeling they’re going to fill out the WR roster with one or more unsigned has-beens like Cooper, Keenan Allen, etc.

I think Cooper signed with the Bills.

I could see maybe Allen on a one year deal - but I would imagine he's holding out for a contender showing interest.

Must have missed the Cooper signing - oh well. Guess we caught a break

 

[sm8680]

I like Allen Lazard as an NFL WR he's 29 not sure why I thought he was older. I was curious as to what to copilot had to say.

Allen Lazard has more than earned his place in the NFL through his own talent, work ethic, and consistent performance on the field. Standing at 6'5" and 227 lbs, Lazard brings a rare combination of size, strength, and agility that makes him a formidable wide receiver. His ability to make contested catches, run crisp routes, and contribute as a reliable target has been evident throughout his career. With over 3,000 receiving yards and 27 touchdowns in his career, Lazard has proven himself as a dependable playmaker, not just a product of Aaron Rodgers' preferences. His time with the Green Bay Packers showcased his ability to step up in crucial moments, and his transition to the New York Jets has only reinforced his value as a versatile and experienced receiver. Whether it's his blocking ability, his knack for finding space in defenses, or his leadership on and off the field, Lazard is in the NFL because he belongs there not because of any quarterback's influence.

 

[NYRAGE]

I'm glad to see that everyone is on board avoiding defense in the first round.

Lots of solid reasons to go OL or WR/TE. I hope we draft those three positions with our first three picks. They can draft a fat guy and safety in the middle rounds.

I won't be upset with Membou, but ideally we trade down 2-3 spots and still draft a WR or TE. We are bereft of weapons, but a good RT would help, too. We probably can't go wrong if we draft those 3 positions. Who am I kiddin? We're the Jets. Of course we can go wrong.

 

[TLEF316]

Totally agree that they desperately need a pass catcher.

But there are people talking like Graham is a potential all pro. Considering how bad the run d was last year, that's tempting

 

[Kiddnets]

Totally agree that they desperately need a pass catcher.

But there are people talking like Graham is a potential all pro. Considering how bad the run d was last year, that's tempting

I have Graham as a solid top 4 blue chip - pairing him with Q to shut down the run which gashed them last year is the only defensive pick I would be ok with - no pass rusher with upside (unless somehow Abdul slips) or LB/CB/S in 1st 2 rds.

 

[zamboni]

I like Allen Lazard as an NFL WR he's 29 not sure why I thought he was older. I was curious as to what to copilot had to say.

Allen Lazard has more than earned his place in the NFL through his own talent, work ethic, and consistent performance on the field. Standing at 6'5" and 227 lbs, Lazard brings a rare combination of size, strength, and agility that makes him a formidable wide receiver. His ability to make contested catches, run crisp routes, and contribute as a reliable target has been evident throughout his career. With over 3,000 receiving yards and 27 touchdowns in his career, Lazard has proven himself as a dependable playmaker, not just a product of Aaron Rodgers' preferences. His time with the Green Bay Packers showcased his ability to step up in crucial moments, and his transition to the New York Jets has only reinforced his value as a versatile and experienced receiver. Whether it's his blocking ability, his knack for finding space in defenses, or his leadership on and off the field, Lazard is in the NFL because he belongs there not because of any quarterback's influence.

So it turns out the copilot algorithm was developed by Lazard’s mom.

 

[NYRAGE]

Rodgers got pissed that he flew to NY on his own dime and was "fired" 20 seconds into the meeting with Glenn and Mougey. I love it.