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As a buc fan...I'm okay with this.Looks like the word came down for McCown to lay down this drive. Sacked once all game, twice on this drive.
As a buc fan...I'm okay with this.Looks like the word came down for McCown to lay down this drive. Sacked once all game, twice on this drive.
Sure. As an NFL fan it's embarassing.As a buc fan...I'm okay with this.Looks like the word came down for McCown to lay down this drive. Sacked once all game, twice on this drive.
There was no need for McCown to lay down, he just had to do what he has been doing all season. If anyone was laying down it would be the OL. But, the have played like this all season. You don't have to lay down when you never got up.Looks like the word came down for McCown to lay down this drive. Sacked once all game, twice on this drive.
McCown should hold a special spot in the hearts of Bucs fans.3-5-TB 46 (5:33) 12-J.McCown pass short right intended for 15-T.King INTERCEPTED by 28-K.Lewis at NO 48. 28-K.Lewis to 50 for 2 yards (88-L.Stocker).
You expect them to say they were? Pretty obvious in watching the game. NFL should go to the NBA style lottery. Granted the Sixers tanked it but at least the returns aren't 100% known. Watching a game like that is an embarrassment to the NFL. Lol, Vincent Jackson walking off the field giving the fans the #1 sign. I hope Mariotta is a bust and I own Evans.Bucs say they weren't tanking for No. 1 pick:
http://espn.go.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/8218/bucs-say-they-werent-tanking-for-no-1-pick
I'd be cool with a lottery ONLY if we can actually see the lottery. None of this NBA closed door crap. It's why the NBA is the joke of all the big 4 sports. I've been able to predict each of the past 4 winners of the lottery due to surrounding storylines/circumstances. It's an insult to everyone's intelligence to act as if these things are decided honestly.You expect them to say they were? Pretty obvious in watching the game. NFL should go to the NBA style lottery. Granted the Sixers tanked it but at least the returns aren't 100% known. Watching a game like that is an embarrassment to the NFL. Lol, Vincent Jackson walking off the field giving the fans the #1 sign. I hope Mariotta is a bust and I own Evans.Bucs say they weren't tanking for No. 1 pick:http://espn.go.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/8218/bucs-say-they-werent-tanking-for-no-1-pick
Are you a Titans fan?You expect them to say they were? Pretty obvious in watching the game. NFL should go to the NBA style lottery. Granted the Sixers tanked it but at least the returns aren't 100% known. Watching a game like that is an embarrassment to the NFL. Lol, Vincent Jackson walking off the field giving the fans the #1 sign. I hope Mariotta is a bust and I own Evans.Bucs say they weren't tanking for No. 1 pick:http://espn.go.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/8218/bucs-say-they-werent-tanking-for-no-1-pick
No.Are you a Titans fan?You expect them to say they were? Pretty obvious in watching the game. NFL should go to the NBA style lottery. Granted the Sixers tanked it but at least the returns aren't 100% known. Watching a game like that is an embarrassment to the NFL. Lol, Vincent Jackson walking off the field giving the fans the #1 sign. I hope Mariotta is a bust and I own Evans.Bucs say they weren't tanking for No. 1 pick:http://espn.go.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/8218/bucs-say-they-werent-tanking-for-no-1-pick
Seems odds to hate Mariota just because a team tanked to get him. The Colts did the exact same thing with Luck and people didn't care that much.You expect them to say they were? Pretty obvious in watching the game. NFL should go to the NBA style lottery. Granted the Sixers tanked it but at least the returns aren't 100% known. Watching a game like that is an embarrassment to the NFL. Lol, Vincent Jackson walking off the field giving the fans the #1 sign. I hope Mariotta is a bust and I own Evans.Bucs say they weren't tanking for No. 1 pick:
http://espn.go.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/8218/bucs-say-they-werent-tanking-for-no-1-pick
But David Stern assured us it was all legitI'd be cool with a lottery ONLY if we can actually see the lottery. None of this NBA closed door crap. It's why the NBA is the joke of all the big 4 sports. I've been able to predict each of the past 4 winners of the lottery due to surrounding storylines/circumstances. It's an insult to everyone's intelligence to act as if these things are decided honestly.You expect them to say they were? Pretty obvious in watching the game. NFL should go to the NBA style lottery. Granted the Sixers tanked it but at least the returns aren't 100% known. Watching a game like that is an embarrassment to the NFL. Lol, Vincent Jackson walking off the field giving the fans the #1 sign. I hope Mariotta is a bust and I own Evans.Bucs say they weren't tanking for No. 1 pick:http://espn.go.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/8218/bucs-say-they-werent-tanking-for-no-1-pick
No chance Briles leaves his HC job.OC candidates? I personally think that's the most important decision they make all off-season.
Tom Herman - Ohio State OC
Lincoln Riley - ECU OC
Scott Frost - Oregon OC
Art Briles - Baylor OC
Others?
Those guys are all college OC's. I'd prefer a young guy with some innovative schemes. Especially if they're looking at MM.None of those guys are candidates. You'll never see a really successful college HC take an nfl OC job again. It's a step down.
Herman just took a job with Univ of Houston. Frost is too green.
I think Trestman has to be the favorite.
I agree with this, but also agree with Cappy that they won't look college. After the Trestman disaster & with the likelihood of a rookie QB, I don't think the organization can afford to risk on a 1st year NFL OC. The OC is an incredibly important decision, and could give a hint at who they take at QB.OC candidates? I personally think that's the most important decision they make all off-season.
I wonder how much of a push there is for a lottery? Bucs definitely pulled starters and didn't field the best team to win. However, if you are already looking towards next season, then why not take the opportunity to evaluate 2nd & 3rd string guys? We already know what we have in Evans & David.Did Buccaneers tank to secure top pick in 2015 NFL Draft?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000451287/article/did-buccaneers-tank-to-secure-top-pick-in-2015-nfl-draft
They obviously tanked, but if Evans or David tear an ACL in the 4th quarter of that game everyone is piling on Lovie anyway. Either way you're criticized. Might as well be criticized for the decision that helps your organization in the future.I wonder how much of a push there is for a lottery? Bucs definitely pulled starters and didn't field the best team to win. However, if you are already looking towards next season, then why not take the opportunity to evaluate 2nd & 3rd string guys? We already know what we have in Evans & David.Did Buccaneers tank to secure top pick in 2015 NFL Draft?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000451287/article/did-buccaneers-tank-to-secure-top-pick-in-2015-nfl-draft
Hopefully McCown retires so he isn't even an option for Lovie. At this point I think they'd be lucky to get a 4th for Glennon.What are the chances TB trades Glennon? Seems to be an odd man out if they do in fact take a QB 1 overall. I'd think he could fetch something.
No top Oline guy right now but this draft is about as deep at the position as I can recall. It's smart to wait IMO.Lovie is giving his press conference right now.
-pretty much going to take a QB
-said there are no top OLbut should be abe to get good ones with 2-3
-still going to be active in FA
-didn't have an OC so that is a priority, college coaches not off limits
If it's that deep then get your future face of your franchise (qb) and pick up an OL in the 2nd...and 3rd too for that matter.No top Oline guy right now but this draft is about as deep at the position as I can recall. It's smart to wait IMO.Lovie is giving his press conference right now.
-pretty much going to take a QB
-said there are no top OLbut should be abe to get good ones with 2-3
-still going to be active in FA
-didn't have an OC so that is a priority, college coaches not off limits
Find me one Bucs fan who is angry that the team lost yesterday. I'll wait...They obviously tanked, but if Evans or David tear an ACL in the 4th quarter of that game everyone is piling on Lovie anyway. Either way you're criticized. Might as well be criticized for the decision that helps your organization in the future.I wonder how much of a push there is for a lottery? Bucs definitely pulled starters and didn't field the best team to win. However, if you are already looking towards next season, then why not take the opportunity to evaluate 2nd & 3rd string guys? We already know what we have in Evans & David.Did Buccaneers tank to secure top pick in 2015 NFL Draft?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000451287/article/did-buccaneers-tank-to-secure-top-pick-in-2015-nfl-draft
LolI can't imagine there are any. I've been watching Mariota highlight reels all morning. :fap:
LOL.at McCown tanking. Have you guys watched him this year?
He's a quick decision maker.LolI can't imagine there are any. I've been watching Mariota highlight reels all morning. :fap:
How many times did he get to a 3rd read?
LolHe's a quick decision maker.LolHow many times did he get to a 3rd read?I can't imagine there are any. I've been watching Mariota highlight reels all morning. :fap:
I don't think he would of done much better with a "real QB". Even a "real QB" needs some kind of protection from the o-line. McCown got creamed back there all season, and he is considered an athletic QB.LOL. McClown sucks; he was just being himself. Can't imagine the numbers that Evans would have put up if he had a real QB.at McCown tanking. Have you guys watched him this year?
Capella said:LolGrahamburn said:He's a quick decision maker.Capella said:LolHow many times did he get to a 3rd read?Grahamburn said:I can't imagine there are any. I've been watching Mariota highlight reels all morning. :fap:
Really it has nothing to do with FSU. I thought Manual was terrible and would have been mortified if my team took him in the first.Capella said:LolGrahamburn said:He's a quick decision maker.Capella said:LolHow many times did he get to a 3rd read?Grahamburn said:I can't imagine there are any. I've been watching Mariota highlight reels all morning. :fap:
I know you're an FSU and Jameis fan, but there's no way Lovie and the Glazers draft a guy #1 overall and make him the face of the franchise with that laundry list of baggage.
Hopefully Mariota can learn to play in a pro system or maybe they'll hire an OC who can be innovative and tailor a system to his strengths. Too much to ask?
Agree...Grahamburn seems to be the only one of us who isn't predicting Winston to #1 by the draft. You can see it happening already in the media, although Thurs night will have a lot of influence.With a decision as important as this you don't go with the "safe pick". If you think Jameis is the better QB then you have to take him. With the success rate of 1st round QBs being 50/50 you can't afford to not ttake the best QB.
If they take Mariota I hope it is because they believe he is better, and not safer.
I personally think they're both going to light it up, so I doubt Thursday has much bearing on the decision.Agree...Grahamburn seems to be the only one of us who isn't predicting Winston to #1 by the draft. You can see it happening already in the media, although Thurs night will have a lot of influence.With a decision as important as this you don't go with the "safe pick". If you think Jameis is the better QB then you have to take him. With the success rate of 1st round QBs being 50/50 you can't afford to not ttake the best QB.
If they take Mariota I hope it is because they believe he is better, and not safer.
Well if you think be raped the girl, then yes, the bucs should not draft him. Of course he should be in prison as well.Part of being the best QB is not being a knucklehead.
Sapp? Come on. He got popped for some weed. Big deal. When was the last time a QB with a sketchy off the field record in college was successful in the NFL?