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This isn't really news though, is it? I mean, sure, maybe we don't know what particular tribes were the most ruthless, but we all grew up learning that native americans were a lesser race and it was the great Christopher Columbus who nobly came to this country and founded the new world and all the glories.
I attended catholic school in eastern PA in mostly the 90s. While it was never as direct as the "Native Americans were lesser people," the general sentiment of what I was taught was that the Native Americans were not civilized and when Columbus showed up he brought technology and a better way of living and they all worked together and got along for the greater good.
i Don’t know about their voice, but they have a lot of casinos in the state.
This is almost never discussed. It's always the oppressive Europeans that are the bad guys. Native Americans were peace loving people who raised buffalo and lived off the land--and THAT is more what we have been taught. I'm all for native Americans having a voice in this nation, as they are part of this nation and certainly not immigrants. I'm also fine with an "indigenous peoples day" heck we have a day for every other group, so yeah why not. I am also fine with changing Columbus day, or eliminating it entirely. He didn't discover America and shouldn't get the credit for it. But doing it because he was a colonizer is not what it should be about.
Do you recall the name of the documentary? Most of what I’ve seen about them was after they became a horse culture.
Then why are we celebrating them? Also, native Americans also took slaves from other tribes too. Not cool at all under today's lens. Shouldn't indigenous people's day be cancelled because of this?
My understanding is that Indigenous People's Day celebrates all Native Americans. Obviously, like all races/cultures, Native Americans are not without blemish.
This is where I come from. Where on earth did these guys go to school? I Hate Native Americans Middle School?
Our history shows that indigenous peoples were in fact treated as a lesser race and our history books are littered with stories perpetuating that. Sure, we heard stories of pilgrims and native Americans, but that was just one story out of thousands. Many of the others would describe natives as savages and barbaric, while expressing no such negative descriptors to the white settlers. The US government created hundreds of American Indian boarding schools with the express intent to civilize the Indian race.
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I wasn't either. Not even close. In fact, when I did find out, AFTER schooling, of some of the atrocities that Native Americans perpetuated between tribes, I was actually a little shocked. In fact I'm still a little shocked by that concept. I was always taught they were good people who were brutalized by Europeans.
The posters name was SIDA. He expressed this sentiment in several threads, but this is all I was able to find with time I had to search (in a thread about a "whites only" dating site).
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SIDA was careful in the terminology he used, but if you read his posts from this period it is pretty easy to ascertain where he was coming from.
Why..did they slaughter and torture each other too?
Agreed, but that is based upon YOUR standard that you and the left have created, not mine. No one is without sin here, so if you're going to blame Big Bad White Man for every transgression in history and try to eliminate him from history, then you're going to need to do it for everyone else.
Fun Fact: You and your side and your white guilt give them a pass every day over it because Big Bad White Man.
Why..did they slaughter and torture each other too?
Fun Fact:
African nations have been known to commit atrocities over the centuries too.
Agreed, but that is based upon YOUR standard that you and the left have created, not mine. No one is without sin here, so if you're going to blame Big Bad White Man for every transgression in history and try to eliminate him from history, then you're going to need to do it for everyone else.
Why..did they slaughter and torture each other too?
Fun Fact:
African nations have been known to commit atrocities over the centuries too.
Absolutely not. He was the only guy that has a national holiday celebrating him though
Why..did they slaughter and torture each other too?
Fun Fact:
African nations have been known to commit atrocities over the centuries too.
So Columbus was the only bad guy here?
Not defending CC but he came to a future America where violence and atrocities were already a way of life, he just carried on business as usual. That was the way of the "world" in that era. Nobody knew of a different life.
Why..did they slaughter and torture each other too?
Fun Fact:
African nations have been known to commit atrocities over the centuries too.
So Columbus was the only bad guy here?
Not defending CC but he came to a future America where violence and atrocities were already a way of life, he just carried on business as usual. That was the way of the "world" in that era. Nobody knew of a different life.
Which is completely irrelevant as to why Indigenous Peoples' Day is celebrated, which is "to honor the resilience and contributions of Indigenous populations as well as their inherent sovereignty."
Why..did they slaughter and torture each other too?
Fun Fact:
African nations have been known to commit atrocities over the centuries too.
So Columbus was the only bad guy here?
Not defending CC but he came to a future America where violence and atrocities were already a way of life, he just carried on business as usual. That was the way of the "world" in that era. Nobody knew of a different life.
Which is completely irrelevant as to why Indigenous Peoples' Day is celebrated, which is "to honor the resilience and contributions of Indigenous populations as well as their inherent sovereignty."
So why is it celebrated on Christopher Columbus Day? Shouldn't they each have their own day?
Why..did they slaughter and torture each other too?
Fun Fact:
African nations have been known to commit atrocities over the centuries too.
So Columbus was the only bad guy here?
Not defending CC but he came to a future America where violence and atrocities were already a way of life, he just carried on business as usual. That was the way of the "world" in that era. Nobody knew of a different life.
Which is completely irrelevant as to why Indigenous Peoples' Day is celebrated, which is "to honor the resilience and contributions of Indigenous populations as well as their inherent sovereignty."
So why is it celebrated on Christopher Columbus Day? Shouldn't they each have their own day?
No, critics of Columbus Day call it a celebration of false discovery, genocide and colonization. Plus, Columbus' treatment of indigenous people he encountered was brutal, horrific and appalling (like chopping off hands for not meeting a gold quota)) and certainly not deserving of being honored with a holiday.
This is a good point. Celebrating IP day on this specific day clearly shows that this is not about simply celebrating Indigenous people as it it advertised but is an attempt to run directly oppositional to there being a Columbus day, which is wrong if the intent is as stated and is simply wanting to acknowledge Indigenous people with their own day. Each day can exist, side by side, and be celebrated by the people who wish to celebrate either or both.
Why..did they slaughter and torture each other too?
Fun Fact:
African nations have been known to commit atrocities over the centuries too.
So Columbus was the only bad guy here?
Not defending CC but he came to a future America where violence and atrocities were already a way of life, he just carried on business as usual. That was the way of the "world" in that era. Nobody knew of a different life.
Which is completely irrelevant as to why Indigenous Peoples' Day is celebrated, which is "to honor the resilience and contributions of Indigenous populations as well as their inherent sovereignty."
So why is it celebrated on Christopher Columbus Day? Shouldn't they each have their own day?
No, critics of Columbus Day call it a celebration of false discovery, genocide and colonization. Plus, Columbus' treatment of indigenous people he encountered was brutal, horrific and appalling (like chopping off hands for not meeting a gold quota)) and certainly not deserving of being honored with a holiday.
Not to be repetitive but Indian Tribes did the same thing to each other and worse. Burning people alive, skinning people alive, killing babies in front of their families, raping women in front of their families, cutting off other tribe men members genitals.
These atrocities were going on well before Columbus arrived. Should they be celebrated? Or is it OK because they were doing it to each other?
Not asking for a reply (just seeing your post at the bottom covering a few common listed items).
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As an American, I'd be embarrassed to have CC Day as a national holiday. If people want to celebrate it privately, have at it. But, it should not be a national holiday on par with days like Labor Day, Veterans Day, Memorial Day, Juneteenth, and Indigenous Peoples' Day (which are all deserving of nationally recognized holidays).
