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Finless
Footballguy
Look Hoss, I didn't buy an iPad. Go back and read what I wrote. A few pages back I said I'm sure a new version will soon come out offering 3G. I had no idea it was actually slated to come out just weeks after the original release. I'm even more shocked that consumers would rush out to buy an inferior product to one that is being offered just a few weeks later. Serious, those who bought, why not wait for the 3G version? You're not going to use 3G? Apple will update the original models with 3G??? You wanted to be the cool guy on the bus/subway/coffee shop browsing the news on his new iPad?Why does this seem common, confusion from people who buy an Apple product then are shocked when a better model is coming right after. Did you honestly think that the 3G version wouldn't come out another year?ANYONE who buys the first version of an apple product should know by now that you aren't getting the most bang for your buck. What you get is the "first one on the block" cache that comes with it. Nothing more.So even though the first release wasn't going to offer 3G and an release just weeks later would, people still rushed out and bought the product without 3GWhat's with the :whoosh: I don't think anything went over my head.
Otis
Footballguy
Fin,The 3G version is around $130 more expensive, and requires a fee for the monthly data plan.HTHLook Hoss, I didn't buy an iPad. Go back and read what I wrote. A few pages back I said I'm sure a new version will soon come out offering 3G. I had no idea it was actually slated to come out just weeks after the original release. I'm even more shocked that consumers would rush out to buy an inferior product to one that is being offered just a few weeks later. Serious, those who bought, why not wait for the 3G version? You're not going to use 3G? Apple will update the original models with 3G??? You wanted to be the cool guy on the bus/subway/coffee shop browsing the news on his new iPad?Why does this seem common, confusion from people who buy an Apple product then are shocked when a better model is coming right after. Did you honestly think that the 3G version wouldn't come out another year?ANYONE who buys the first version of an apple product should know by now that you aren't getting the most bang for your buck. What you get is the "first one on the block" cache that comes with it. Nothing more.So even though the first release wasn't going to offer 3G and an release just weeks later would, people still rushed out and bought the product without 3G
Finless
Footballguy
Oat I'm aware of that. Just surprised people wouldn't wait for the 3G version. I guess I don't watch my pennies as closely as some. I buy the top of the line generally. If BMW is coming out with a new whip I'm interested in and 3 months later they're coming out with the same car in a Turbo.....I'm waiting.
Some of ya'll may be into hotspotting. I'd prefer to spend less than I do on a tank of gas to have 3G. That's just me.
Some of ya'll may be into hotspotting. I'd prefer to spend less than I do on a tank of gas to have 3G. That's just me.
Jason Bourne
Footballguy
Everyone who pre-ordered the iPad could have pre-ordered the 3G version at the same time. This was not a bait and switch - I chose to get the wifi model over the 3GNot like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to actthat buying a WIFI only product then next month coming out with WIFI + 3G is laughable.
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
I don't see this as a "mobile" device. Yes, there will be times I wish I had a 3G device - but for most of the time I will use this at home or in the office where I have a wireless network. So, I chose not to get the more expensive model and data plan.
But, it is a bit disingenuous to talk about this a sudden product upgrade - it was offered for sale at the same time as the wifi-only - only with a later delivery date.
drummer
Footballguy
Goggins uninformed once more.Everyone who pre-ordered the iPad could have pre-ordered the 3G version at the same time. This was not a bait and switch - I chose to get the wifi model over the 3GNot like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to act
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
I don't see this as a "mobile" device. Yes, there will be times I wish I had a 3G device - but for most of the time I will use this at home or in the office where I have a wireless network. So, I chose not to get the more expensive model and data plan.
But, it is a bit disingenuous to talk about this a sudden product upgrade - it was offered for sale at the same time as the wifi-only - only with a later delivery date.
Otis
Footballguy
Can't tell if you're shticking here or not GB, but we all had both options and chose this one. However, I will say that the more I'm using this device, the more I'm sort of thinking 3G would be a better choice. If I continue to use it like this, I may one day upgrade to the next generation in a 3G (or 4G?) version.
Finless
Footballguy
The whole idea behind this thing is built around it being a mobile device. Did you also buy a portable DVD player with a built-in screen to watch at homeEveryone who pre-ordered the iPad could have pre-ordered the 3G version at the same time. This was not a bait and switch - I chose to get the wifi model over the 3GNot like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to act
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
I don't see this as a "mobile" device. Yes, there will be times I wish I had a 3G device - but for most of the time I will use this at home or in the office where I have a wireless network. So, I chose not to get the more expensive model and data plan.
But, it is a bit disingenuous to talk about this a sudden product upgrade - it was offered for sale at the same time as the wifi-only - only with a later delivery date.
You don't see this as a mobile device 
I'm not hating on the product or Apple for that matter. They make great stuff. I just don't understand the thought process of buying the lesser model. You don't think Apple planned a later release for 3G to rope in people who bought the first offering but now want 3G?
Finless
Footballguy
Not shticking at all. If I were to purchase an iPad the whole purpose would be to have a good looking, lightweight machine to handle specific tasks on the road and to have some fun and kill time while waiting for appointments and or traveling. To not have the 3G option would be a deal breaker for me. I don't need one of these things while sitting on my couch. It's a lightweight mobile computer for media and emails. I don't want to have to rely on a hot-spot to get online. That's all I'm saying here. You'll see Oat, soon enough you'll be looking to offload that one and upgrade. Apple counted on that when releasing the superior model weeks later. And without a USB connection I don't see them being able to make an aircard for this thing.
Otis
Footballguy
Could be, GB. My other hope is that I'll be able to tether to my cell phone at some point and get data that way. We'll see...
Jason Bourne
Footballguy
Tell you what - send me the a pic when you put this on a belt clip. Someone posted a strap ealier if you have visions of going Flavor FlavThe whole idea behind this thing is built around it being a mobile device. Did you also buy a portable DVD player with a built-in screen to watch at homeYou don't see this as a mobile device
I'm not hating on the product or Apple for that matter. They make great stuff. I just don't understand the thought process of buying the lesser model. You don't think Apple planned a later release for 3G to rope in people who bought the first offering but now want 3G?
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Exactly.The whole idea behind this thing is built around it being a mobile device. Did you also buy a portable DVD player with a built-in screen to watch at homeEveryone who pre-ordered the iPad could have pre-ordered the 3G version at the same time. This was not a bait and switch - I chose to get the wifi model over the 3GNot like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to act
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
I don't see this as a "mobile" device. Yes, there will be times I wish I had a 3G device - but for most of the time I will use this at home or in the office where I have a wireless network. So, I chose not to get the more expensive model and data plan.
But, it is a bit disingenuous to talk about this a sudden product upgrade - it was offered for sale at the same time as the wifi-only - only with a later delivery date.
I'm not hating on the product or Apple for that matter. They make great stuff. I just don't understand the thought process of buying the lesser model. You don't think Apple planned a later release for 3G to rope in people who bought the first offering but now want 3G?
drummer
Footballguy
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
It was shown virtually everywhere that the 3G was coming out shortly after. Are you serious? Stop making this thread a piece of ####. Tia.Not like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to act
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
If I were to buy an iPad and the 3G was available at the same time as the wifi I'd still get the wifi.This assumes I can jailbreak the iPad and tether it to my iPhone 3Gs (you might not even need to jailbreak the iPad). I always have my phone on me, they both have bluetooth so you can pair them and there is an unlock you can download to allow you to use th e iPhone to tether.The whole idea behind this thing is built around it being a mobile device. Did you also buy a portable DVD player with a built-in screen to watch at homeEveryone who pre-ordered the iPad could have pre-ordered the 3G version at the same time. This was not a bait and switch - I chose to get the wifi model over the 3GNot like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to act
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
I don't see this as a "mobile" device. Yes, there will be times I wish I had a 3G device - but for most of the time I will use this at home or in the office where I have a wireless network. So, I chose not to get the more expensive model and data plan.
But, it is a bit disingenuous to talk about this a sudden product upgrade - it was offered for sale at the same time as the wifi-only - only with a later delivery date.
I'm not hating on the product or Apple for that matter. They make great stuff. I just don't understand the thought process of buying the lesser model. You don't think Apple planned a later release for 3G to rope in people who bought the first offering but now want 3G?
Finless
Footballguy
My bad, chief. It's a desktop. Jobs clearly wasn't thinking portable when he made a mini computer.Tell you what - send me the a pic when you put this on a belt clip. Someone posted a strap ealier if you have visions of going Flavor FlavThe whole idea behind this thing is built around it being a mobile device. Did you also buy a portable DVD player with a built-in screen to watch at home
I'm not hating on the product or Apple for that matter. They make great stuff. I just don't understand the thought process of buying the lesser model. You don't think Apple planned a later release for 3G to rope in people who bought the first offering but now want 3G?
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Exactly so I don't know why some people complain that the 3G is coming out soon.It was shown virtually everywhere that the 3G was coming out shortly after. Are you serious? Stop making this thread a piece of ####. Tia.Not like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to act
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
drummer
Footballguy
This is horrid schtick.Exactly so I don't know why some people complain that the 3G is coming out soon.It was shown virtually everywhere that the 3G was coming out shortly after. Are you serious? Stop making this thread a piece of ####. Tia.Not like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to actthat buying a WIFI only product then next month coming out with WIFI + 3G is laughable.
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
3C's
Footballguy
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
go google to see how many people are complaining...wish it was shtick
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
Well, I wouldn't buy a 1st Gen product in the first place, yet I knew from the beginning that a 3G model would be available as an added feature for those who want 3G, along with the wi-fi model. I don't see a reason to actively search out complaints from something that was understood already.
Finless
Footballguy
Britney Spears
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Just a heads up, car companies come out with a new model every single year.Not like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to act
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
If I order the online MLB selection, is it viewable on the ipad?
Das Boot
Footballguy
Those bastards.Just a heads up, car companies come out with a new model every single year.Not like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to actthat buying a WIFI only product then next month coming out with WIFI + 3G is laughable.
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
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Yes. There are a few apps that do this.
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Yep.Just a heads up, car companies come out with a new model every single year.Not like Apple.A car company that comes out with their brand new 2011 model car doesn't come out with one a month later loaded with more features.
You know by getting Apple version 1 that their next version will have more features on it. For people to actthat buying a WIFI only product then next month coming out with WIFI + 3G is laughable.
Look at Apple's history starting from their ipod.
Otis
Footballguy
Lots of folks complaining about this. Go ahead, check the internet yourself.
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
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Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Most of the following "complaints" should not be if the people complaining actually tried out the product or waited. Wonder if these same people don't try out other products or do research first before buying or only when it comes to Apple.
http://dvice.com/archives/2010/04/20-biggest-grip.php
The 20 biggest complaints about the iPad
Still on the fence about whether or not to get Apple's shiny new iPad? We've gone ahead and sifted through every darn review we could find, and compiled here the biggest gripes folks have had after getting some hands-on time. Quick note: the lack of multitasking and a camera has been written about to death, so we've left them off the list.
What are you waiting for? Continue reading to see 20 of the biggest complaints reviewers have with the iPad.
1. Upscaling makes old iPhone/iPod Touch apps ugly.
"Here's the problem: It looks terrible… What we're left with is a feature [to use old apps] that I — and I suspect most people — will use one or twice, and never revisit again." - John Hermann, Gizmodo
2. No GPS for the Wi-Fi iPad
"Never have I seen such a fast, intuitive piece of technology for geographical navigation… For that reason alone, to me the lack of GPS in the Wi-Fi iPad is a dealbreaker." - Brian Chen, Wired
3. Apple's oleophobic coating doesn't get rid of distracting fingerprints
"Apple has removed screen protectors from their stores. Apparently they interfere with the new oleophobic covering. But it is clear (pun intended) to me that I will need a screen protector. This thing has my fingerprints all over it!" - Todd Bernhard, iPhone Life
4. The screen is unreadable in direct sunlight
"Unfortunately, the touch screen is so highly reflective that it kicks up a vicious glare in a well-lit room, and practically doubles as a mirror in full sunlight." - Robert Strohmeyer, PCWorld
5. The iPad's missing USB port and SD card slot come as separate $30 adapters
"Some will decry the absence of a USB port or other connectors, which might let you hook up a printer or bolster storage. Everything comes through the standard iPod-like dock connector on the bottom of the iPad." - Ed Baig, USA Today
6. The virtual keyboard still doesn't beat a physical one
"The on-screen QWERTY keyboard is more finger-sized than iPhone… but I didn't find myself using the device for lots of text input (email, blog post composing) without the aid of the keyboard dock — pretty much exactly like the standard Mac keyboard." Xeni Jardin, Boing Boing
7. YouTube looks ugly on the big screen
"On the iPad, YouTube looks like, well, YouTube. Just as HD television doesn't do good things for bad skin, the iPad's glorious screen merely serves to make low-resolution YouTube video content look worse than it does on the iPhone or other smaller screens." - Tim Gideon, PC Magazine
8. Even at 1.5 pounds, the iPad feels heavy to hold
"My first reaction when picking up the gorgeous device was how heavy it was. Apple lists the device at over a pound, which doesn't sound like a lot. But when picking an iPad up, the weight is more than one would expect." - Matt Brewer, Mac Fanatic
9. Charging the iPad via USB on a PC has been shaky at best
"Here's where the iPad did not charge: Front and rear USB ports on a variety of Windows computers; USB port on an Apple wired keyboard attached to an iMac." Jeff Fox, Consumer Reports
10. The headphone jack up top is awkward
"…it would've been better on the bottom so that pesky cable would stay out of the way. But then maybe Apple was thinking you'd be using it in horizontal mode when you need the headphones." - Charlie White, DVICE
11. The Home button gets in the way while holding the iPad horizontally
"Held horizontally, it's on the left or right side, which also happens to be where your fingers are while playing many games. Hitting it closes the game you are playing, causing you to shout obscenities while neighbor children are playing outside your open window." - Mike Fahey, Kotaku
12. Some Apps have been found to be unstable
"After a few hours of playing with the device, Westerhold encountered some minor glitches. His Wikipedia app crashed, and the Netflix app was a little slow." - Henrick Karoliszyn and Larry McShane, NY Daily News
13. The battery is not replaceable
"As on all Apple portable devices, the battery is sealed in and nonreplaceable." - Walt Mossberg, AllThingsD
14. The iBookstore only works with the iPad
"There's an e-book reader app, but it's not going to rescue the newspaper and book industries (sorry, media pundits)… And you can't read books from the Apple bookstore on any other machine — not even a Mac or iPhone." - David Pogue, The New York Times
15. The iPad's App Store layout feels unwieldy compared to its predecessors
"The new App Store is a step backwards from the iPhone version, unless I'm missing something. There's no good way to browse all the apps in the store anymore… There's a heavy focus on popularity and featured apps, without an easy way to drill down on the store." - Will Smith, Tested
16. Built-in Mail falls short compared to fully featured computer email
"…we love the split screen displays and real estate for composing, but still feel like we're floating out in the ether when managing our email. It works, it's fast, it's consistent... it's just not what it could be." - Joshua Topolsky, Engadget
17. The iPad lacks a proper filing system
"…the iPad offers no conventional system of files and folders for storing work… The iPad was able to quickly and gracefully open my emailed PDFs but offered no way to save the files to the iPad for future access. Consequently, to read one PDF over several days, I had to repeatedly search for an archived email, re-download the PDF and then open it as if for the first time." Omar Wasow, The Root
18. The HD apps are expensive
"Twice the pixels for twice the price? Come on, guys. This isn't science of the rockets. Why do I need to pay $4 for an HD version of Fieldrunners? Gold rush much?" - John Biggs, CrunchGear
19. Pages, Apple's $10 iPad word processor, doesn't work well with professional standards
"…only the word processor exports to Microsoft's formats, and not always accurately. In one case, the exported Word file had misaligned text. When I then tried exporting the document as a PDF file, it was unreadable." - Walt Mossberg, AllThingsD
20. The iPad is for consuming, not creating
"…the iPad is not a laptop. It's not nearly as good for creating stuff. On the other hand, it's infinitely more convenient for consuming it -- books, music, video, photos, Web, e-mail and so on." - David Pogue, The New York Times
Edit: as for #13 - hey morons apple does not and will not have replaceable batteries. Why do people cry over this still?
Looks like the Iphone > Ipad at this point.
http://dvice.com/archives/2010/04/20-biggest-grip.php
The 20 biggest complaints about the iPad
Still on the fence about whether or not to get Apple's shiny new iPad? We've gone ahead and sifted through every darn review we could find, and compiled here the biggest gripes folks have had after getting some hands-on time. Quick note: the lack of multitasking and a camera has been written about to death, so we've left them off the list.
What are you waiting for? Continue reading to see 20 of the biggest complaints reviewers have with the iPad.
1. Upscaling makes old iPhone/iPod Touch apps ugly.
"Here's the problem: It looks terrible… What we're left with is a feature [to use old apps] that I — and I suspect most people — will use one or twice, and never revisit again." - John Hermann, Gizmodo
2. No GPS for the Wi-Fi iPad
"Never have I seen such a fast, intuitive piece of technology for geographical navigation… For that reason alone, to me the lack of GPS in the Wi-Fi iPad is a dealbreaker." - Brian Chen, Wired
3. Apple's oleophobic coating doesn't get rid of distracting fingerprints
"Apple has removed screen protectors from their stores. Apparently they interfere with the new oleophobic covering. But it is clear (pun intended) to me that I will need a screen protector. This thing has my fingerprints all over it!" - Todd Bernhard, iPhone Life
4. The screen is unreadable in direct sunlight
"Unfortunately, the touch screen is so highly reflective that it kicks up a vicious glare in a well-lit room, and practically doubles as a mirror in full sunlight." - Robert Strohmeyer, PCWorld
5. The iPad's missing USB port and SD card slot come as separate $30 adapters
"Some will decry the absence of a USB port or other connectors, which might let you hook up a printer or bolster storage. Everything comes through the standard iPod-like dock connector on the bottom of the iPad." - Ed Baig, USA Today
6. The virtual keyboard still doesn't beat a physical one
"The on-screen QWERTY keyboard is more finger-sized than iPhone… but I didn't find myself using the device for lots of text input (email, blog post composing) without the aid of the keyboard dock — pretty much exactly like the standard Mac keyboard." Xeni Jardin, Boing Boing
7. YouTube looks ugly on the big screen
"On the iPad, YouTube looks like, well, YouTube. Just as HD television doesn't do good things for bad skin, the iPad's glorious screen merely serves to make low-resolution YouTube video content look worse than it does on the iPhone or other smaller screens." - Tim Gideon, PC Magazine
8. Even at 1.5 pounds, the iPad feels heavy to hold
"My first reaction when picking up the gorgeous device was how heavy it was. Apple lists the device at over a pound, which doesn't sound like a lot. But when picking an iPad up, the weight is more than one would expect." - Matt Brewer, Mac Fanatic
9. Charging the iPad via USB on a PC has been shaky at best
"Here's where the iPad did not charge: Front and rear USB ports on a variety of Windows computers; USB port on an Apple wired keyboard attached to an iMac." Jeff Fox, Consumer Reports
10. The headphone jack up top is awkward
"…it would've been better on the bottom so that pesky cable would stay out of the way. But then maybe Apple was thinking you'd be using it in horizontal mode when you need the headphones." - Charlie White, DVICE
11. The Home button gets in the way while holding the iPad horizontally
"Held horizontally, it's on the left or right side, which also happens to be where your fingers are while playing many games. Hitting it closes the game you are playing, causing you to shout obscenities while neighbor children are playing outside your open window." - Mike Fahey, Kotaku
12. Some Apps have been found to be unstable
"After a few hours of playing with the device, Westerhold encountered some minor glitches. His Wikipedia app crashed, and the Netflix app was a little slow." - Henrick Karoliszyn and Larry McShane, NY Daily News
13. The battery is not replaceable
"As on all Apple portable devices, the battery is sealed in and nonreplaceable." - Walt Mossberg, AllThingsD
14. The iBookstore only works with the iPad
"There's an e-book reader app, but it's not going to rescue the newspaper and book industries (sorry, media pundits)… And you can't read books from the Apple bookstore on any other machine — not even a Mac or iPhone." - David Pogue, The New York Times
15. The iPad's App Store layout feels unwieldy compared to its predecessors
"The new App Store is a step backwards from the iPhone version, unless I'm missing something. There's no good way to browse all the apps in the store anymore… There's a heavy focus on popularity and featured apps, without an easy way to drill down on the store." - Will Smith, Tested
16. Built-in Mail falls short compared to fully featured computer email
"…we love the split screen displays and real estate for composing, but still feel like we're floating out in the ether when managing our email. It works, it's fast, it's consistent... it's just not what it could be." - Joshua Topolsky, Engadget
17. The iPad lacks a proper filing system
"…the iPad offers no conventional system of files and folders for storing work… The iPad was able to quickly and gracefully open my emailed PDFs but offered no way to save the files to the iPad for future access. Consequently, to read one PDF over several days, I had to repeatedly search for an archived email, re-download the PDF and then open it as if for the first time." Omar Wasow, The Root
18. The HD apps are expensive
"Twice the pixels for twice the price? Come on, guys. This isn't science of the rockets. Why do I need to pay $4 for an HD version of Fieldrunners? Gold rush much?" - John Biggs, CrunchGear
19. Pages, Apple's $10 iPad word processor, doesn't work well with professional standards
"…only the word processor exports to Microsoft's formats, and not always accurately. In one case, the exported Word file had misaligned text. When I then tried exporting the document as a PDF file, it was unreadable." - Walt Mossberg, AllThingsD
20. The iPad is for consuming, not creating
"…the iPad is not a laptop. It's not nearly as good for creating stuff. On the other hand, it's infinitely more convenient for consuming it -- books, music, video, photos, Web, e-mail and so on." - David Pogue, The New York Times
Edit: as for #13 - hey morons apple does not and will not have replaceable batteries. Why do people cry over this still?
Looks like the Iphone > Ipad at this point.
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Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Even more laughable is that some of the quotes come from Apple fans...they act like this is the first time they have ever had an Apple product.
griz145389
Footballguy
Das Boot
Footballguy
Check out the loser criticisms in the below link.It's absurd how much of a stretch some writers are making to over dramatize faults and restrictions in the iPad:
Those are some awful, awful complaints. Just
http://www.cioinsight.com/c/a/IT-Managemen...ictions-254231/
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
opps, sorry!
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3304
iPad: Does not automatically rejoin known Wi-Fi networks
Symptoms
Under certain conditions, iPad may not automatically rejoin a known Wi-Fi network after restart or waking from sleep. This can occur with some third-party Wi-Fi routers that are dual-band capable when:
* Using the same network name for each network
* Using different security settings for each network
Products Affected
iPad
Resolution
If you encounter this issue, try the following:
* Create separate Wi-Fi network names to identify each band. This can be done easily by appending one or more characters to the current network name.
o Example: Add a G to the 802.11b/g network name and an N to the 802.11n network name.
* Ensure that both networks use the same security type (WEP, WPA, WPA2, and so on)
If the issue persists, reset your network settings using Settings > General > Reset > Reset Network Settings.
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3304
iPad: Does not automatically rejoin known Wi-Fi networks
Symptoms
Under certain conditions, iPad may not automatically rejoin a known Wi-Fi network after restart or waking from sleep. This can occur with some third-party Wi-Fi routers that are dual-band capable when:
* Using the same network name for each network
* Using different security settings for each network
Products Affected
iPad
Resolution
If you encounter this issue, try the following:
* Create separate Wi-Fi network names to identify each band. This can be done easily by appending one or more characters to the current network name.
o Example: Add a G to the 802.11b/g network name and an N to the 802.11n network name.
* Ensure that both networks use the same security type (WEP, WPA, WPA2, and so on)
If the issue persists, reset your network settings using Settings > General > Reset > Reset Network Settings.
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Why does Apple charge a 10% restocking fee if you return it within 14 days? 
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
:X 
This has to be shtickhttp://www.onenewspage.com/news/Technology...their-iPads.htmYou could be among them, but don't delay.
Months of hype built up your expectations -- like one of those Internet romances. There's what you imagined the iPad to be, and now there is the reality. Can you annul this sorry relationship? Yes, within 14 days of purchase and by coughing up a 10-percent restocking fee.
Don't worry, you're not alone. You gave into the peer pressure -- "Hell! Everyone was buying iPad." But there also is a support group of returnees. You can join them, and you can be free. You can reclaim your mind from the "reality distortion field" effects. Other returnees:
*Jeff Jarvis* fell out of love with iPad, nearly immediately. On Sunday he tweeted: "After having slept with her (Ms. iPad), I am having morning-after regrets. Sweet and cute but shallow and vapid." So much for the Internet romance. Ms. iPad looked beautiful on the WebCam and even more so in person. But there's beauty and there's depth.
Jarvis tweeted late yesterday: "I just talked with two people who, like me, are planning to return their iPads." Tweeted today: "Sitting in the 5th Av Apple Store before a breakfast meeting, reading tweets about me saying on @sternshow that I'm returning my iPad." To which Story Worldwide CEO Kirk Cheyfitz replied: "Is it better to have loved an iPad and taken it back than never to have loved an iPad at all? (With apologies to Tennyson.)"
Old media-turned-new-media convert Jarvis has yet to say why he is returning the iPad. Surely the saga will continue playing out on Twitter.
*Michelle Alexandria* "hates her iPad and is Returning it!" Alexandria has a litany of gripes -- from "ridiculous price gouging" e-books to "numerous syncing issues" to "gimped" WiFi-only connection (no 3G model yet). Yesterday, I asserted the necessity of multitasking on mobile devices. Alexandria agrees: "The lack of Multitasking was irritating as heck. While downloading stuff, in the above mentioned apps, the only thing I could do is sit there and stare at the freaking downloading bar." She's giving up for now, but not forever:
{{I'm fairly certain I'm returning this in the next week or so and going to take the $80 (10 percent of $800) Apple Tax for the privilege of being able to return something. We're launching a new iPad website so I have to have this thing, but I'm going to wait for the 3G model ??" yeah AT&T sucks, but what else can I do?}}
*Nick O'Neill* announced his qualms in an April 5 blog post:
{{Not only did I feel like Steve Jobs' pawn when I walked into Apple to purchase the device, but I also spent at least 8 hours following my purchase trying to justify the expense. Ironically I find that the majority of tweets on Twitter are attempts to do the exact same thing: justify the purchase after the fact. Unfortunately though, while Steve Jobs may be able to dictate that a few million people should buy a device, I am not a true Apple cult member.}}
Today, having returned iPad, he gave some reasons. Apple marketing describes iPad as a "magically and revolutionary product." But that wasn't O`Neill's experience: "It isn't magical and it isn't revolutionary."
*Jerome Nichols* confessed his lover's regret in a tweet reply to CNET's Molly Wood -- not three hours ago: "I literally just walked out of the Apple store after returning my iPad -- not impressed, just a big iPod touch." Wood had tweeted: "Why on earth can't I edit a Google Doc on iPad? I can edit a spreadsheet, but not a Doc, in either mobile or desktop mode. Augh!" Nichols' blog nor his Twitter feed explain why he returned his iPad.
*Mike O`Connor* returned his iPad "after 3 hours." He did so with vague uncertainty: "I don't really know why I returned my iPad after 3 hours. I guess it just didn't deliver $600+ worth of smiles." O`connor rattled off some reasons, nevertheless, such as no Safari plugins, no Adobe Flash and the "whole iTunes/Marketplace sandbox," which "weirded me out." Cory Doctorow's post "Why I won't buy an iPad (and think you shouldn't, either)" impacted O'Connor.
The simplest reason: "Mostly it just wasn't fun. So I returned it and took the 10% 'restocking fee' haircut. 60 bux, for 3 hours, so 20 bux an hour."
*Marc Mercuri* briefly tweeted late yesterday: "Returned my iPad tonight (wanted it for an Azure+iPad demo) because of wifi+constant rebooting. Genius bar was 5 strong with iPad issues." Mercuri works for Microsoft, but don't assume that as reason for the return. Wifi problems on a wifi-to-Internet only device is reason enough.
*Nick Ellis* bought his iPad on Saturday only to return it -- along with a case. He explains why in a post from earlier today:
{{I took it home, started playing and something weird happened. I wasn't blown away. It was cool and all, but I just couldn't figure out how it fit into my life. It seemed to be an "if" device.
· If I didn't already have an iPhone.
· If I didn't have a laptop.
· If I had time to actually read books or watch movies.
· If I really needed it.
But I didn't need it. If anything it was going to complicate my life. One more device to sync, keep charged and clear email from.
}}
Ellis got a surprisingly good deal. The Apple Store charged no restocking fee (saving him $60) and he had renewed MobileMe for $30 off when purchasing the iPad.
Wrapping up, are you ready to part with your iPad? Do you want to return it, or perhaps you have already? Go ahead, confess in Comments. You'll feel better for it.
Copyright Betanews, Inc. 2010
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drummer
Footballguy
opps, sorry!
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3304
iPad: Does not automatically rejoin known Wi-Fi networks
Symptoms
Under certain conditions, iPad may not automatically rejoin a known Wi-Fi network after restart or waking from sleep. This can occur with some third-party Wi-Fi routers that are dual-band capable when:
* Using the same network name for each network
* Using different security settings for each network
Products Affected
iPad
Resolution
If you encounter this issue, try the following:
* Create separate Wi-Fi network names to identify each band. This can be done easily by appending one or more characters to the current network name.
o Example: Add a G to the 802.11b/g network name and an N to the 802.11n network name.
* Ensure that both networks use the same security type (WEP, WPA, WPA2, and so on)
If the issue persists, reset your network settings using Settings > General > Reset > Reset Network Settings.
Dude, seriously, this, like happens to laptops.Continue your path of utter fail.
drummer
Footballguy
Like nobody has ever taken a PC back before? Color me shocked. (Especially with HP).
http://www.onenewspage.com/news/Technology...their-iPads.htmYou could be among them, but don't delay.
Months of hype built up your expectations -- like one of those Internet romances. There's what you imagined the iPad to be, and now there is the reality. Can you annul this sorry relationship? Yes, within 14 days of purchase and by coughing up a 10-percent restocking fee.
Don't worry, you're not alone. You gave into the peer pressure -- "Hell! Everyone was buying iPad." But there also is a support group of returnees. You can join them, and you can be free. You can reclaim your mind from the "reality distortion field" effects. Other returnees:
*Jeff Jarvis* fell out of love with iPad, nearly immediately. On Sunday he tweeted: "After having slept with her (Ms. iPad), I am having morning-after regrets. Sweet and cute but shallow and vapid." So much for the Internet romance. Ms. iPad looked beautiful on the WebCam and even more so in person. But there's beauty and there's depth.
Jarvis tweeted late yesterday: "I just talked with two people who, like me, are planning to return their iPads." Tweeted today: "Sitting in the 5th Av Apple Store before a breakfast meeting, reading tweets about me saying on @sternshow that I'm returning my iPad." To which Story Worldwide CEO Kirk Cheyfitz replied: "Is it better to have loved an iPad and taken it back than never to have loved an iPad at all? (With apologies to Tennyson.)"
Old media-turned-new-media convert Jarvis has yet to say why he is returning the iPad. Surely the saga will continue playing out on Twitter.
*Michelle Alexandria* "hates her iPad and is Returning it!" Alexandria has a litany of gripes -- from "ridiculous price gouging" e-books to "numerous syncing issues" to "gimped" WiFi-only connection (no 3G model yet). Yesterday, I asserted the necessity of multitasking on mobile devices. Alexandria agrees: "The lack of Multitasking was irritating as heck. While downloading stuff, in the above mentioned apps, the only thing I could do is sit there and stare at the freaking downloading bar." She's giving up for now, but not forever:
{{I'm fairly certain I'm returning this in the next week or so and going to take the $80 (10 percent of $800) Apple Tax for the privilege of being able to return something. We're launching a new iPad website so I have to have this thing, but I'm going to wait for the 3G model ??" yeah AT&T sucks, but what else can I do?}}
*Nick O'Neill* announced his qualms in an April 5 blog post:
{{Not only did I feel like Steve Jobs' pawn when I walked into Apple to purchase the device, but I also spent at least 8 hours following my purchase trying to justify the expense. Ironically I find that the majority of tweets on Twitter are attempts to do the exact same thing: justify the purchase after the fact. Unfortunately though, while Steve Jobs may be able to dictate that a few million people should buy a device, I am not a true Apple cult member.}}
Today, having returned iPad, he gave some reasons. Apple marketing describes iPad as a "magically and revolutionary product." But that wasn't O`Neill's experience: "It isn't magical and it isn't revolutionary."
*Jerome Nichols* confessed his lover's regret in a tweet reply to CNET's Molly Wood -- not three hours ago: "I literally just walked out of the Apple store after returning my iPad -- not impressed, just a big iPod touch." Wood had tweeted: "Why on earth can't I edit a Google Doc on iPad? I can edit a spreadsheet, but not a Doc, in either mobile or desktop mode. Augh!" Nichols' blog nor his Twitter feed explain why he returned his iPad.
*Mike O`Connor* returned his iPad "after 3 hours." He did so with vague uncertainty: "I don't really know why I returned my iPad after 3 hours. I guess it just didn't deliver $600+ worth of smiles." O`connor rattled off some reasons, nevertheless, such as no Safari plugins, no Adobe Flash and the "whole iTunes/Marketplace sandbox," which "weirded me out." Cory Doctorow's post "Why I won't buy an iPad (and think you shouldn't, either)" impacted O'Connor.
The simplest reason: "Mostly it just wasn't fun. So I returned it and took the 10% 'restocking fee' haircut. 60 bux, for 3 hours, so 20 bux an hour."
*Marc Mercuri* briefly tweeted late yesterday: "Returned my iPad tonight (wanted it for an Azure+iPad demo) because of wifi+constant rebooting. Genius bar was 5 strong with iPad issues." Mercuri works for Microsoft, but don't assume that as reason for the return. Wifi problems on a wifi-to-Internet only device is reason enough.
*Nick Ellis* bought his iPad on Saturday only to return it -- along with a case. He explains why in a post from earlier today:
{{I took it home, started playing and something weird happened. I wasn't blown away. It was cool and all, but I just couldn't figure out how it fit into my life. It seemed to be an "if" device.
· If I didn't already have an iPhone.
· If I didn't have a laptop.
· If I had time to actually read books or watch movies.
· If I really needed it.
But I didn't need it. If anything it was going to complicate my life. One more device to sync, keep charged and clear email from.
}}
Ellis got a surprisingly good deal. The Apple Store charged no restocking fee (saving him $60) and he had renewed MobileMe for $30 off when purchasing the iPad.
Wrapping up, are you ready to part with your iPad? Do you want to return it, or perhaps you have already? Go ahead, confess in Comments. You'll feel better for it.
Copyright Betanews, Inc. 2010
Card Trader
Footballguy
Really? I've never had a laptop that fails to rejoin the known networks. Keep up the ol justification machine though! Apple products rule!!!1!1!!!opps, sorry!
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3304
iPad: Does not automatically rejoin known Wi-Fi networks
Symptoms
Under certain conditions, iPad may not automatically rejoin a known Wi-Fi network after restart or waking from sleep. This can occur with some third-party Wi-Fi routers that are dual-band capable when:
* Using the same network name for each network
* Using different security settings for each network
Products Affected
iPad
Resolution
If you encounter this issue, try the following:
* Create separate Wi-Fi network names to identify each band. This can be done easily by appending one or more characters to the current network name.
o Example: Add a G to the 802.11b/g network name and an N to the 802.11n network name.
* Ensure that both networks use the same security type (WEP, WPA, WPA2, and so on)
If the issue persists, reset your network settings using Settings > General > Reset > Reset Network Settings.
Continue your path of utter fail.
drummer
Footballguy
Ever have a laptop with Linux on it? Heck, I had problems with my XP netbook wi-fi not working or able to find a network. This stuff isn't new people. All these complaints don't even compare to SP 2 or 3 back in the day.Really? I've never had a laptop that fails to rejoin the known networks. Keep up the ol justification machine though! Apple products rule!!!1!1!!!opps, sorry!
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3304
iPad: Does not automatically rejoin known Wi-Fi networks
Symptoms
Under certain conditions, iPad may not automatically rejoin a known Wi-Fi network after restart or waking from sleep. This can occur with some third-party Wi-Fi routers that are dual-band capable when:
* Using the same network name for each network
* Using different security settings for each network
Products Affected
iPad
Resolution
If you encounter this issue, try the following:
* Create separate Wi-Fi network names to identify each band. This can be done easily by appending one or more characters to the current network name.
o Example: Add a G to the 802.11b/g network name and an N to the 802.11n network name.
* Ensure that both networks use the same security type (WEP, WPA, WPA2, and so on)
If the issue persists, reset your network settings using Settings > General > Reset > Reset Network Settings.
Continue your path of utter fail.
Get a grip.
The people who hate apple just for the sake of hating apple are a very odd group.
I haven't had an apple product since the IIe in the 80's, but they make great products and the iPad is no exception and will only get better.
For a 1st generation device it is extremely solid.
I haven't had an apple product since the IIe in the 80's, but they make great products and the iPad is no exception and will only get better.
For a 1st generation device it is extremely solid.
drummer
Footballguy
I have, lessee here, 5 PC's, 2 of which are laptops (one of which is dead because of it only had the MacBook mag power connection, the other, a Dell that was given to me because it always had issues, and actually had a class action lawsuit filed from people who purchased it due to the poor hardware design), a netbook that had se7en on it that now gives me the Blue Screen of death (that pesky Registry thingy), another Dell desktop that has video card issues (Linux/X-Org seems to hate it), and another that actually works due to I rebuilding part of it. Right now, the only computer that I don't have to hassle with is guess what? The iMac that I'm using to post this on. I won't even bother trying out se7en on this machine either.ETA: My buddy still uses the iMac G3 that I gave him and loaded Tiger on, and it's faster with less specs than any of these old PC's that I have managed.
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Walton Goggins
Footballguy
opps, sorry!
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3304
iPad: Does not automatically rejoin known Wi-Fi networks
Symptoms
Under certain conditions, iPad may not automatically rejoin a known Wi-Fi network after restart or waking from sleep. This can occur with some third-party Wi-Fi routers that are dual-band capable when:
* Using the same network name for each network
* Using different security settings for each network
Products Affected
iPad
Resolution
If you encounter this issue, try the following:
* Create separate Wi-Fi network names to identify each band. This can be done easily by appending one or more characters to the current network name.
o Example: Add a G to the 802.11b/g network name and an N to the 802.11n network name.
* Ensure that both networks use the same security type (WEP, WPA, WPA2, and so on)
If the issue persists, reset your network settings using Settings > General > Reset > Reset Network Settings.
Continue your path of utter fail.
Never experienced that
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
Our company uses HP and have never had that issue before. Perhaps you are doing something to your PCs since all of them crater on you.
