Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Their last title was seven years ago and Brady isn't getting any younger. It was a helluva run.
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Is it OVER for the Patriots? (1 Viewer)
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Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
8 years ago!!!
Brady will be 35 next season, the Pats may have 1-2 more years to really make a run.
Brady will be 35 next season, the Pats may have 1-2 more years to really make a run.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
BTW, they gave the MVP trophy to the wrong guy. It should go to Bernard Pollard.
I believe New England wins with Gronk being healthy.
I believe New England wins with Gronk being healthy.
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
If Gronk didn't play, I put the Giants as a 7 point favorite.If he was totally healthy then it was a coin flip.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
If they can find a big, fast STUD receiver in the draft (like, say, Nicks), that offense would be STUPID!
Tanner9919
Footballguy
U believe wrongly...Oh no here comes the 'if' parade.....maybe if brady , tommy terrfic not the best ever qb, didnt throw that bonehead pick to blackburn the giants dont win? Nothing to do with Gronk..they beat gronk and pats in NE earlier this season in NE...you can believe all you want stop hating on NYG..they have beaten pats when it matters most , twice now...
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John Bender
Footballguy
"you're opinion is wrong; my opinion is right"
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Who's "hating" on the Giants? Other than the 18-1 game, this was my favorite non-Raider game ever.Just stating the truth. Gronk was about 50%, if that. The Giants knew he had nothing. N.E. led most of the game as it was. With Gronk at full strength, I feel comfortable saying the Pats win tonight.
John Bender
Footballguy
Agreed 100%. They pretty much left him alone. Gronk's playing and it's a much different game. Pollard for MVP
otello
Footballguy
loose circuits
Footballguy
I think Brandon Lloyd signing on the cheap to stick with McD would solve that need and allow them to draft for Dteam is far from over. Only 1 team per year wins a super bowl. For them to make that many is pretty amazing
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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
True but on the flip side people on this board would have said Brady was the all time best Qb.So the stakes are high with Brady, no doubt.In the end, he's one of the all time greats.
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ThaPenguin
Footballguy
With those 2 TEs, welker, and a piss poor division, I think they will be around for a bit.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Still smarting from that tuck rule, huh?Their last title was seven years ago and Brady isn't getting any younger. It was a helluva run.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Brady will be great again next year. Those 2 Tes are only getting better, Welker will be fine.
They need to add some secondary help and sign another vet WR. Cinco was a bust, they could use another solid WR.
They need to add some secondary help and sign another vet WR. Cinco was a bust, they could use another solid WR.
cstu
Footballguy
2014 - Brady gets traded. Mark it down.
rockaction
Footballguy
Seattle and San Francisco aren't exactly patsies. Arizona's defense came on strong toward the end of the year. But the Pats will be around. Vereen and Ridley will have a full year under their belt, and they'll probably pick up a deep threat for their receiving corps. Brady's not done. Their offensive line is still excellent. I also can't imagine them not picking up a corner and a linebacker.
Run It Up
Footballguy
pissing in the pool with record speeds.Their last title was seven years ago and Brady isn't getting any younger. It was a helluva run.
GoFishTN
Footballguy
The 49ers had that division locked up by like week 8. Seattle is awful and so are the other two.
rockaction
Footballguy
Seattle is actually looking much improved. They finished 7-9, and Football Outsiders had their weighted DVOA (taking into account how they were playing at the end of the year) as 12th out of the 32 teams. I watched Seattle all year. They're big and tough on defense, have two of the best young safeties in the game, two big, good cover corners, and a stout run defense. Their offensive line, which was a problem at the beginning of the year, got quite good as the season went on. If they can snag a QB or develop Jackson for one more year, and re-sign Marshawn Lynch, they're playoff contenders. Regardless, NE gets them at home next year.
The Comedian
Footballguy
Weird question to ask about a 13-3 team who just came within a few minutes of winning another Super Bowl.
No, they're not done. They just weren't good enough today.
No, they're not done. They just weren't good enough today.
carverlee
Footballguy
They were a Lee Evans B12 shot or slight breeze to the right from not even making it to where they were. 13-3 or not, this was not a dominant Patriots team.
Run It Up
Footballguy
They werent very good when they finished 14-2 last year either, or 10-6 the year before that, or 11-5 the year before that, or 16-0 the year before that, lmfao.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The Pats had to turn over a lot of their roster the last 2-3 years, they were supposed to be rebuilding on defense. They managed to get to the Super Bowl along the way. They will be better next year, it's not over and it won't be until Brady retires and then BB retires, maybe they go out together.
The Comedian
Footballguy
Never said they were dominant.And so what if they'd lost in the AFC championship? The Patriots are the only team in the league that people ask if they're "done" when they don't make/win a Super Bowl. The bar is absurdly high.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Probably.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I wonder what Bill Simmons will say in his 19,000 word column today.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Jets, Bills, or Dolphins are not overtaking them anytime soon and that crummy division will give them a shot at a bye and or home field for the next 2-3 years. Steelers and Ravens are also getting old and/or going through transitions. The Colts are going to rebuild. The challenges in the AFC might have to come from other teams. Texans?
Not a Pats fan, but it just looks to me the Giants have the best team to exploit their weaknesses.
Pats will still have a punchers chance the next few years with Brady.
Not a Pats fan, but it just looks to me the Giants have the best team to exploit their weaknesses.
Pats will still have a punchers chance the next few years with Brady.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I agree with your post, but the upcoming teams to watch in the AFC are the Bengals, Texans and IMO the Titans.
azgroover
Footballguy
I believe Welker's contract is up. I could see BB letting someone else pay his market rate.
Boston
Footballguy
Don't see that happening...he'll get franchised before he walks...they are very thin at WR and he's way too important to their offense...
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Me too.
The Captain
Footballguy
Exactly. Brady has 2-4 more great years in him and it's a team in transition. Look out if they add a legit, stretch the field WR and build a respectable defense.
I think Wes needs the Pats as much as the Pats need him. He won't be as successful anywhere else. Maybe the saints. He and Brady are in sync. And that will need to be rebuilt if he choses to leave.
petenice15
Footballguy
If a healthy Peyton shows up in Miami, this division could change in heartbeat.
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AmosMoses
Footballguy
Remove Brady and they are a 5 win team. Brady will be 35 when next season starts. The dude isn't immortal.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
serious question, is what over? They havent won a championship in 8 years.
Shutout
Footballguy
I don't see any reason why Brady won't continue to be an elite QB for a good number of years still and even if he's not there, I don't know that Mallett won't be a solid replacement. We already saw that this team can be more competitive as 70% of the league with a replacement like Cassell at QB so I think they are fine there.
They have a lot of draft picks, as usual. They usually aren't major FA players but there are a LOT of FAs out there this year and they could use a pass rushing DE. I think they get on in FA or the draft.
If someone wants to say "its over", then they are obviously saying it in the context of "against the patriots own elite standards". Yes, they may not be going to Super Bowls every other year.
But as far as being one of the perennial best teams in the NFL, I don't think anything suggests they won't be in the running each and every season for quite a bit longer.
They have a lot of draft picks, as usual. They usually aren't major FA players but there are a LOT of FAs out there this year and they could use a pass rushing DE. I think they get on in FA or the draft.
If someone wants to say "its over", then they are obviously saying it in the context of "against the patriots own elite standards". Yes, they may not be going to Super Bowls every other year.
But as far as being one of the perennial best teams in the NFL, I don't think anything suggests they won't be in the running each and every season for quite a bit longer.
AmosMoses
Footballguy
I think it's Mallett's time. He sat for a year, was the best prototype QB in the draft last year and was sabotaged by the honesty of his childish exuberant history. We have seen time and time again that loyalty gets you nowhere in this league and Brady as of now is still worth a good deal. So wouldn't it make more sense to trade him now, then try to do it after the wheels fall off after next season or 13?
