Hipple Long Ware & Peete
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LT owners have the (post) 501 blues....
(ie anytime a thread on whether you are done or not reaches 501 posts... you probably are)Hippling complete
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Is LaDainian Tomlinson washed up? (2 Viewers)
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(ie anytime a thread on whether you are done or not reaches 501 posts... you probably are)Hippling complete
grouse
Footballguy
For all intents and purposes he missed week 1. He missed week 2. He will miss week 3. And I'm 'guessing' he misses week 4 and comes back fresh after their week 5 bye. So to re-state - Just for the sake of relevance, where do you think he'll finish after he misses the first 4 games?
grouse
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Gr00vus
Footballguy
Show us your research! And there better be pivot tables.LT owners have the (post) 501 blues....(ie anytime a thread on whether you are done or not reaches 501 posts... you probably are)
Hippling complete
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
from same article
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
one more
From Norv's recent comments I don't see think LT getting a workload when he comes back is going to be an issue. Below is an article that just came out on the SD Tribune review:
After Bennett carried just four times to Sproles' 10 in Sunday's loss to Baltimore, Turner said he would have liked to use Bennett more. But it's not because he thinks he has to.
“Over a long period of time that (would be) a concern,” Turner said of the 5-foot-6, 185-pound Sproles' heavy workload. “But I know how it's going to work. When LT comes back, it's going to be, 'How come Sproles isn't getting more (touches)?' We're in a situation where we need to do everything we can to be productive.
link: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/200...rgers/?chargers
After Bennett carried just four times to Sproles' 10 in Sunday's loss to Baltimore, Turner said he would have liked to use Bennett more. But it's not because he thinks he has to.
“Over a long period of time that (would be) a concern,” Turner said of the 5-foot-6, 185-pound Sproles' heavy workload. “But I know how it's going to work. When LT comes back, it's going to be, 'How come Sproles isn't getting more (touches)?' We're in a situation where we need to do everything we can to be productive.
link: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/200...rgers/?chargers
cstu
Footballguy
That's the kind of great analysis I expect from the SP (...heads back to FFA...).
spider321
Footballguy
Yes.
He was obviously a great player, but he is pretty much done.
There's no shame in it. It happens to them all
One day, it will happen to AP, and someone else will pick-up the torch.
Jim Brown to OJ Simpson to Walter Payton to Barry Sanders to Marshall Faulk to LaDainian Tomlinson to Adrian Peterson to..............
No one lasts forever.
edit - I'm not suggesting that AP belongs on this list yet, but he is the current favorite to be the new "torch bearer".
He was obviously a great player, but he is pretty much done.
There's no shame in it. It happens to them all
One day, it will happen to AP, and someone else will pick-up the torch.
Jim Brown to OJ Simpson to Walter Payton to Barry Sanders to Marshall Faulk to LaDainian Tomlinson to Adrian Peterson to..............
No one lasts forever.
edit - I'm not suggesting that AP belongs on this list yet, but he is the current favorite to be the new "torch bearer".
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Apparently he has been ruled out for this weeks game.
LaDainian Tomlinson (foot) has formally been ruled out for Sunday's game against the Dolphins. Tomlinson hasn't practiced since Week 1 and has no timetable for return. He's allegedly considering resting his foot until it's 100 percent, indicating he could miss Week 4 as well before the Bolts' Week 5 bye. Darren Sproles will continue to dominate touches, with Michael Bennett backing him up.
from rotoworld
LaDainian Tomlinson (foot) has formally been ruled out for Sunday's game against the Dolphins. Tomlinson hasn't practiced since Week 1 and has no timetable for return. He's allegedly considering resting his foot until it's 100 percent, indicating he could miss Week 4 as well before the Bolts' Week 5 bye. Darren Sproles will continue to dominate touches, with Michael Bennett backing him up.
from rotoworld
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
I feel like I wasted my first round pick. If he comes back for week 6, I may be 0-5 and not even adjusting my lineup anymore.
Yes, I suck at fantasy football and my entire season depends on how my 1st pick produces.
Yes, I suck at fantasy football and my entire season depends on how my 1st pick produces.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Well, in this case, it looks like bad karma from your choice of user name.
Sheriff Harry Lee
Footballguy
It amazes me guys who consider themselves "sharks" can write off a dude like LT. Yes, he probably sits out til wk 6, so you deal with that or trade him LOW.Or, you stash and wait for the possible very timely bump at a key point in your season. Guaranteed, if he comes back and lays down 20+ out the gate the value skyrockets.Fish, or cut bait. from a wk 3 vantage pt, you can always recover, just be vigilant for the next LT.
Sheriff Harry Lee
Footballguy
Let me re-phrase, cause i think I came off harsh. I understand the angst, but to tie your whole season to one guy, 1st rd or not, is a mistake. You CAN recover from anything, because bad luck is not restricted to you only. GET BUSY!!!
The Chargers have really struggled in the red zone the last two weeks. When asked about it in today's post-game press conference, the first thing Norv Turner said was: "It sure will be nice to get #21 back in there."
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Not germane to the discussion, but it never happened to the two bolded running backs. Studs from the beginning to the end.
spider321
Footballguy
I was wondering when someone was going to point that out.
I never said Brown and Sanders played into their declining years.But yes, like you said, they both retired before they got to the point LT is at now.
I think we can all agree that Brown and Sanders could not play right now.
Therefore, no one last forever.
Ding Ding Ding!!! All the Sproles chatter sure has calmed down.
bonesman
Footballguy
I don't think I'd be starting him against the Steelers fresh off an ankle injury.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
So we are at this point: Tomlinson < Ced Benson? I still can not believe that CB pulled a 4.8 average and got a TD against the Steelers. I am pretty sure the world is about to implode.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Steelers D isn't the same without Troy.
But, being that the Chargers are left with an inept set of RB's without LT...............if he's ready to go they'll trot him out there.
sho nuff
Footballguy
The #@$ %&$@ Germans got nothin' to do with it.
Fresh off the injury shouldn't factor into the equation. Players wind up with the same PPG when they're injured as they do when they're not (actually, oddly enough, they wind up with veeeeeeeeeery slightly more when they're injured). Couch Potato did a study on it once, although I don't know what happened to it.If you'd start a healthy Tomlinson, then you should start a gimpy Tomlinson. Fantasy-wise, they should both be expected to produce about the same (provided gimpy Tomlinson actually plays).
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
shipped him out today for Sjax + Chris Long.. figure thats best I could get in return.
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fozzy fosbourne
Footballguy
According to Rotoworld, it was a full practice, too. I don't know what my thoughts are at this point, good .. bad. I just have sort of forgotten about LT since I've been too busy running around with my hair on fire trying to recover a season without my RB1 haha.
It's the opposite in all of my leagues. I've made trade offers for him in every league in which I don't already have him, including offering DeAngelo Williams for LT straight up, and nobody will bite.
Both Tomlinson and OG Vasquez participated fully in practice today.
Kevin Acee's tweet: "LT looks to be moving fine. They weren't going to rush him back, so I'm betting he plays."
Kevin Acee's tweet: "LT looks to be moving fine. They weren't going to rush him back, so I'm betting he plays."
Oh Yes!
Footballguy
im using my #1 waiver on him this week
zamboni
Footballguy
Good to hear he's practicing.
For those owning both LT and Sproles, it's a mixed outcome. On the negative side, it sure seems that Sproles can't fully step in and replace LT (at least in the key red zone area), but the good news is that the clear RBBC split may not happen if LT is healthy. LT may not be what he used to be, but his absence was clearly missed by the Chargers' offense.
For those owning both LT and Sproles, it's a mixed outcome. On the negative side, it sure seems that Sproles can't fully step in and replace LT (at least in the key red zone area), but the good news is that the clear RBBC split may not happen if LT is healthy. LT may not be what he used to be, but his absence was clearly missed by the Chargers' offense.
vnel8tn
Footballguy
Maurile? Is that you? I know it looks like your avatar, but the Maurile I know has consistently been a man who giggles
s at other folks' displaying faith. This seems like a faith based position if you asked me 
All kidding aside, I too have made offers for LT...awaiting a decision by his owner. 
It's evidence-based. Tomlinson was one of the more impressive players in training camp this season, looking like the quick, explosive version of himself, not the injury-slowed 2008 version. (Camp practices were closed to the public this year, so I'm basing that on quotes from players, coaches, and reporters; not personal observation.)
In the first game, he looked very good to me. I went back and watched each of his 13 runs several times. I know he averaged only 4.2 yards per carry, which isn't all-world (although it is much better than any of the other Chargers so far), but he got everything that was there. More importantly, he made several cuts he couldn't have made last year.
The evidence I'm aware of leads me to think that Tomlinson will play well as long as he's healthy. (And I think predicting future injuries is a matter of faith.)
In the first game, he looked very good to me. I went back and watched each of his 13 runs several times. I know he averaged only 4.2 yards per carry, which isn't all-world (although it is much better than any of the other Chargers so far), but he got everything that was there. More importantly, he made several cuts he couldn't have made last year.
The evidence I'm aware of leads me to think that Tomlinson will play well as long as he's healthy. (And I think predicting future injuries is a matter of faith.)
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RamMan
Footballguy
Vasquez is on your waiver wire?
Clifton
Footballguy
Crazy, this league has over $4000 in winnings. Not exactly noobs. No one is interested. He was drafted at the end of the 2nd round. The very end. No one was interested on draft day either so this isn't an overreaction to the ankle. I find it funny no one has even tried to lowball me. At this point I hope they rest him this week so he's fresh for week 6. Just crazy....this is an active league when it comes to trading as well. Hopefully he shows us something in a couple weeks. If I was offered Deangelo I'd take it at this point. I think. I'd also consider Slaton.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I for one would rather have LT back. Sproles is gonna share carries with someone (LT or bennett) I for one would rather have the defense soften up, or even get both guys in the same backfield. That could be pretty lethal.Ding Ding Ding!!! All the Sproles chatter sure has calmed down.
vnel8tn
Footballguy
See, this is why it pays to have an inside source...that as close as it getst to straight insider information if you asked me.But just to show I still got a little 'argue' left in me, I will ask if that is truly "evidence" (scientific) because it appears merely anecdotal?
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
As a Benson owner I wouldn't trade him for LT. I can't believe I just typed that.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Really? Please tell it's a redraft at least. I think this is homerism. I would jump at that if I owned LT.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Interesting. I think I could get him on the cheap, might as well try.
