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Is Mike Nolan out of his mind? (1 Viewer)

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49ers: Team won't use franchise tag on Peterson The NewsCoach Mike Nolan indicated Tuesday that the 49ers won't use the franchise tag on linebacker Julian Peterson or any of their other pending free agents, reports the San Jose Mercury News. "Our philosophy is no one player is bigger than the team,' Nolan said. "That's not just from a disciplinarian standpoint but from a cap standpoint as well.' Our ViewOur philosophy is your team sucks and there's no way you should let Julian Peterson, who may we remind is one of your best defensive players, walk. Someone should tell Nolan that he won only four games last year, and by the time he gets the team turned around – if he ever gets the team turned around – he'll probably no longer have a job with the organization.
I got this from fanball.com.I'm not sure if Nolan is a genius or a complete idiot. Obviously fanball thinks he's an idiot. As a niners fan I really like the way he has approached his job and the rebuilding of the team. He reminds me of a classic, old school coach who will not tolerate prema dona's or egos. But on a team sorely lacking in talent how do you let one of your only good players walk when you can keep him on using the franchise tag? They have tons of cap room so that is not the issue. It is an issue of principal for Nolan.I guess this has lead me to wonder if the Franchise tag is good or bad for the NFL?Thoughts?
 
I wouldn't franchise him either. He wasn't as effective last year either coming off of his injuries and in the new base defense.

The only guy I'd consider franchising is Derek Smith. He fits Nolan's D very well. And he is determined to test out the free agent market as this will probably be his last contract. I know he isn't worth the average of the top 5 LB's in the league, but, I think it might be the only way they can keep him. Plus, the dude is everything you want in a player. Keeps his nose clean, good locker room guy, actually likes the 49ers, plays hurt.

 
Nobody on that team deserves the franchise tag, especially a OLB who will account for 1/8 of the cap next year if he did get that tag.

Nolan is smart enough to see that he can upgrade other spots with JP's cap room and still plug a player like Brandon Moore into JP's old spot and get like results.

JP has not been a difference maker since the injury.

Love to have him back, but not at the franchise- number nor what the Postons will ask for.

 
I think Nolan is smart. The 49ers have proven they can lose with Julian Peterson, why tagging him would be the right thing to do is beyond me. You have to be judicious with your tags. In most cases, using the tag is committing to overpaying someone for a year...that's fine if you feel that player is the difference between contending for a title or not [or if you feel retaining that person's services over many years is essential], but why any OLB much less one with a major knee injury and a very high cap $$$$ would warrant the tag is beyond me.

 
Actually Al Davis HAS lost his mind. ESPNRadio1000 in Chicago just reported he plans on franchise tagging Charles Woodson again?

Change your Depends Al, the stench is rotting what remains of your brain - and discoloring your white vinyl pants.

 
Actually Al Davis HAS lost his mind. ESPNRadio1000 in Chicago just reported he plans on franchise tagging Charles Woodson again?

Change your Depends Al, the stench is rotting what remains of your brain - and discoloring your white vinyl pants.
:eek: Woodson has made some serious fat cash being franchised two years in a row at the CB position.

It will be 10% greater than last year's amount....WOW!!! Thats like 10-15% of the whole team's cap himself.

 
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Actually Al Davis HAS lost his mind. ESPNRadio1000 in Chicago just reported he plans on franchise tagging Charles Woodson again?

Change your Depends Al, the stench is rotting what remains of your brain - and discoloring your white vinyl pants.
:eek: Woodson has made some serious fat cash being franchised two years in a row at the CB position.

It will be 10% greater than last year's amount....WOW!!! Thats like 10-15% of the whole team's cap himself.
I believe it's 20%. The salary has to be the greater of the average top 5 salaries and a 20% raise over the previous year.
 
Actually Al Davis HAS lost his mind. ESPNRadio1000 in Chicago just reported he plans on franchise tagging Charles Woodson again?

Change your Depends Al, the stench is rotting what remains of your brain - and discoloring your white vinyl pants.
:eek: Woodson has made some serious fat cash being franchised two years in a row at the CB position.

It will be 10% greater than last year's amount....WOW!!! Thats like 10-15% of the whole team's cap himself.
I believe it's 20%. The salary has to be the greater of the average top 5 salaries and a 20% raise over the previous year.
Or a 20% raise, whatever is greater.
 
Actually Al Davis HAS lost his mind. ESPNRadio1000 in Chicago just reported he plans on franchise tagging Charles Woodson again?

Change your Depends Al, the stench is rotting what remains of your brain - and discoloring your white vinyl pants.
:eek: Woodson has made some serious fat cash being franchised two years in a row at the CB position.

It will be 10% greater than last year's amount....WOW!!! Thats like 10-15% of the whole team's cap himself.
I believe it's 20%. The salary has to be the greater of the average top 5 salaries and a 20% raise over the previous year.
My bad...typo. I realize its 120%.He made 10.529 Million last year, so he will make 12.64 million this year. :eek: :eek:

 
Al Davis always has loved having Heisman Trophy winners on his Raiders roster. Cornerback Charles Woodson has one of those on his resume, and for eight seasons he worked that bit of leverage with the big man upstairs for all it was worth.

But at a price tag exceeding $12.6 million -- the cost of a third consecutive franchise tag for an oft-injured defensive back who hasn't played a full 16-game season since 2001 -- Woodson's value as a collector's item has expired.

And his days in a Raiders uniform are over.

The deadline for NFL teams to place franchise or transition tags on players is Thursday, and neither Bay Area team will use the designation on its roster.

So prepare to say goodbye to Woodson and, in all likelihood, 49ers linebacker Julian Peterson. Both are free-agents-to-be and 2005 franchise players who would command 20 percent raises over last year's salaries, thanks to a stipulation in the soon-to-expire collective bargaining agreement.

Woodson cost the Raiders $10.529 million in '05 and played in all of six games because of a fractured fibula. He accounted for more than one-eighth of the team's entire payroll. Once a team leader, he completely disappeared from the locker room after being injured in an Oct. 23 game against Buffalo.

"He's finally gone. There is no value in bringing him back, period,'' said an NFL source, confirming that the Raiders will not tag Woodson a third consecutive year.

Peterson, who remains an influential, stand-up player among his teammates, started 14 games in '05 -- admirable after returning from career-threatening Achilles surgery. But a hamstring injury limited him last season. And he would cost the team $8.6 million in '06, including the built-in raise.

Mike Nolan, the 49ers' coach, has been up-front about his reluctance to invest so much cash in a single player, especially on a team with so many pressing needs.

"No player will be bigger than the team,'' Nolan said Tuesday, putting it as plainly as he could. "I don't think there's someone on the roster right now who I think is bigger than the team.''

Of course, Nolan has used that reasoning as a disciplinary tool (re: Jamie Winborn).

"But it's also important from a (salary) cap standpoint,'' Nolan said. "If you put so much into one player, that player becomes more important than the team. When it comes to franchise tags, you have to be careful who you put it on. And when it comes to a first-time franchise player versus a second-time franchise player, the numbers just get out of whack.''

Add to this the uncertainty of the NFL's labor situation with its players, and the once-liberal use of the franchise tag becomes a bigger risk -- especially for teams such as the 49ers and Raiders without fancy new stadiums and huge revenue streams.

The current CBA between the NFL Players Association and the league will expire after the coming season. Both sides are working to strike a deal before March 3 to avoid postponement of the free-agency signing period and the prospect of an uncapped '07.

That would mean no spending limits for big-money franchises -- think of the Redskins' Dan Snyder becoming another George Steinbrenner -- and tough sledding for the Bay Area teams, which depend on the current CBA's revenue-sharing scheme and salary cap to stay remotely competitive.

"You have to watch how you spend your money right now,'' Nolan said.

All of this means a probable end to Peterson's career as a 49er unless management can hammer out a deal to keep him from becoming an unrestricted free agent when that period is scheduled to begin March 3.

Woodson, whom the Raiders franchised in 2004 and '05, already knows he's outta there. His representative, the elusive Carl Poston, has not contacted the Raiders' front office once this offseason.

The days of begging Davis for a long-term contract are over. Woodson and his agent know it.

When he likely ends up in Tampa Bay -- the traditional repository for discarded Raiders players -- the Raiders will get a huge chunk of the payroll back. And a clean break.

Both are long overdue.
 
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I think Mike Nolan is a smart man. Non of the 49er free agents are worth the franchise tag. When you look at the niner roster from top to bottom last year, talent wise, it was the worst in the league. I think Nolan wants personnel that he sees fitting into his schemes.

 
I think Mike Nolan is a smart man. Non of the 49er free agents are worth the franchise tag. When you look at the niner roster from top to bottom last year, talent wise, it was the worst in the league. I think Nolan wants personnel that he sees fitting into his schemes.
:goodposting: Who else has worse talent than SF right now? Only teams I see close are Cleveland, Green Bay, and the Jets.

 
I agree... the Niners aren't going anyplace, so why overpay for a veteran like Julian Peterson, who's lost his fastball.

If he doesn't want to relocate, he'll resign with the Niners at a more affordable price.

 

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