What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.

Is rock dead? (1 Viewer)

Herb said:
What's dead is "mainstream music." Every genre is fractured, especially rock. It's pretty hard to find new rock and roll options on terrestrial radio. Top 40-type stations are certainly not playing it. Streaming options are where it's at. Spotify, Iheartradio, Itunes radio are your friends. SiriusXM also has a ton of stations that play new rock of all stripes.

Mumford has gotten a lot of grief in here, but their last two albums have moved away from the banjo stuff and veered into solid rock territory.  Their Wilder Mind album was spectacular. Iron Maiden, Sleater Kinney, Kings of Leon, Social Distortion, Alice freakin' Cooper(!) et al have all put out kick ### records in the last couple years. The National, Japandroids, The Interrupters, Sheer Mag, Against Me!, Volbeat, St. Vincent, Nathaniel Rateliff and the Nightsweats, etc etc are all holding high the banner of rock and waving the #### out of it.

I'm in Love with rock n roll, it satisfy my soul, that's how it has to be, I won't get mad. I've got rock n roll, to save me from the cold, and if that's all there is, it ain't so bad. Rock n Roll!
Click to expand...
Lots of stuff to check out. Thank you.

 
feel like rock's never been better- been on a renaissance the last few years with a ton of great stuff out there these days, easily accessible via streaming media apps like spotify.

but that's not top-0-pops rock... like in the 70s and early 80s. or maybe it is? I don't pay attention to pop music. 

 
Seems like I wandered into the pro wrestling thread, with all the claims of "it was so much better and gosh-darn popular in the 80s" and "feels like it's in a Renaissance period."

 
The answer to your question, in my opinion, is that no, rock isn't dead. It just isn't what's popular. You may just need to look a little closer to find what satisfies you.

With the onset of an era in which we are connected to anything and everything, we choose to connect to only those things which interest us. Entertainment has splintered off into followings. Whatever happens to bubble to the top of mainstream attention these days is usually just following whatever formula was set out by the innovators. It will peter out and collect hangers-on into its own little following. The exception to this rule is the actual good stuff that just so happens to be too good to be coveted only by its following and it rises to the mainstream. And then it gets cannibalized by the formulas and the cycle repeats itself. (My god, can we just be done with most reality programming...) Maybe this will happen again for rock, but even if it doesn't really rise up it isn't dead.

So rock on. As for me, I'll watch speedruns and wrestling while listening to D&D podcasts. ;)

 
El Floppo said:
feel like rock's never been better- been on a renaissance the last few years with a ton of great stuff out there these days, easily accessible via streaming media apps like spotify.

but that's not top-0-pops rock... like in the 70s and early 80s. or maybe it is? I don't pay attention to pop music. 
Click to expand...


Fiddles said:
no dig deeper
Click to expand...
Yeah, and honestly, there are always threads going on here that are 90% new rock music (yes, it may have an indie,alt,folk,metal,pop hyphen before some of it) for people who care to check them out.  @kupcho1's yearly best albums of 20## are a good place to start. Here's this years.

 
Judge Smails said:
Foo Fighters is the last one I can think of.  Like others have posted I'm hoping for a resurgence.  Greta Van Fleet shows the most promise there and I think other young musicians will flock to it when they see the response.
Click to expand...
What about groups like Seether and Three Days Grace?

 
Is this where we come to whine that the mainstream pop doesn't appeal to us anymore?

My lawn: get off it

 
They say the heart of rock and roll is still beating
And from what I've seen I believe 'em
Now the old boy may be barely breathing
But the heart of rock and roll, heart of rock and roll is still beating

 
Last edited by a moderator:
The Man. Oh, you don't know the Man? He's everywhere. In the White House, down the hall... Ms. Mullins, she's the Man. And the Man ruined the ozone, and he's burning down the Amazon, and he kidnapped Shamu and put her in a chlorine tank! Okay? And there used to be a way to stick it to the Man, it was called rock 'n roll. But guess what? Oh no. The Man ruined that, too, with a little thing called MTV! So don't waste your time trying to make anything cool, or pure, or awesome, 'cause the Man is just gonna call you a fat washed up loser and crush your soul. So do yourselves a favor and just GIVE UP!

 
Rock isn't dead but very little new stuff makes it onto the airways.

Back in the 1960s & 70s the Top 40 was pretty varied.   Not so much anymore.  

 
VandyMan said:
They say the heart of rock and roll is still beating
And from what I've seen I believe 'em
Now the old boy may be barely breathing
But the heart of rock and roll, heart of rock and roll is still beating
Click to expand...
probably my least favorite hit song from that album

 
Rock will be back, but mainstream rock is currently dead.   

80s/90s bands dominate the concert scene because there are hardly any acts from the last 20 years worth seeing.  Millenials are listening to more old music than previous generations.

It's all kind of strange.

 
Rock's not dead. (Nor am I, Getzlaf15. Ah, that was clever.)

Modest Mouse, the former Walkmen, Spoon (!) all want a word with you. These are all huge festival bands from the past decade. 

I vehemently disagree that rock is dead. It's just in places where you have to look a little and pay a little attention to find it. But aside from dedicated rock stations, it's always been that way. Are the dedicated rock stations dying? Maybe, I can't tell. But I'm old enough to remember some at least recent history; and where I grew up the pop stations played pop, the rock stations played rock and rarely did the twain meet. Even in the eighties. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
rockaction said:
Rock's not dead. (Nor am I, Getzlaf15. Ah, that was clever.)

Modest Mouse, the former Walkmen, Spoon (!) all want a word with you. These are all huge festival bands from the past decade. 

I vehemently disagree that rock is dead. It's just in places where you have to look a little and pay a little attention to find it. But aside from dedicated rock stations, it's always been that way. Are the dedicated rock stations dying? Maybe, I can't tell. But I'm old enough to remember some at least recent history; and where I grew up the pop stations played pop, the rock stations played rock and rarely did the twain meet. Even in the eighties. 
Click to expand...
hahahahaha you're dead!

 
Herb said:
What's dead is "mainstream music." Every genre is fractured, especially rock. It's pretty hard to find new rock and roll options on terrestrial radio. Top 40-type stations are certainly not playing it. Streaming options are where it's at. Spotify, Iheartradio, Itunes radio are your friends. SiriusXM also has a ton of stations that play new rock of all stripes.

Mumford has gotten a lot of grief in here, but their last two albums have moved away from the banjo stuff and veered into solid rock territory.  Their Wilder Mind album was spectacular. Iron Maiden, Sleater Kinney, Kings of Leon, Social Distortion, Alice freakin' Cooper(!) et al have all put out kick ### records in the last couple years. The National, Japandroids, The Interrupters, Sheer Mag, Against Me!, Volbeat, St. Vincent, Nathaniel Rateliff and the Nightsweats, etc etc are all holding high the banner of rock and waving the #### out of it.

I'm in Love with rock n roll, it satisfy my soul, that's how it has to be, I won't get mad. I've got rock n roll, to save me from the cold, and if that's all there is, it ain't so bad. Rock n Roll!
Click to expand...
Beautifully said.  There’s plenty of good stuff out there, you just have to find it.  

 
shuke said:
Beautifully said.  There’s plenty of good stuff out there, you just have to find it.  
Click to expand...
But is it as good as Guns N Roses, Queen, Radiohead, U2, Fleetwood Mac etc. etc.

The answer is no, it's not.  Sure there is good rock music you have to search for, but we're far from where we were at...and I fear it may never return.

Mainstream Rock is currently dead and it sucks.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
TripItUp said:
But is it as good as Guns N Roses, Queen, Radiohead, U2, Fleetwood Mac etc. etc.

The answer is no, it's not.  Sure there is good rock music you have to search for, but we're far from where we were at...and I fear it may never return.

Mainstream Rock is currently dead and it sucks.
Click to expand...
Dude, Radiohead and U2 have both released albums in the past couple years.  

 
Some of the best rock music ever has been made the last 10-15 years, but most of it is under the radar.  

Rock is not dead, but as a mainstream force, it is definitely on life support.  The masses nowadays opt more for pop, hip hop and country (ick). 

 
TripItUp said:
But is it as good as Guns N Roses, Queen, Radiohead, U2, Fleetwood Mac etc. etc.

The answer is no, it's not.  Sure there is good rock music you have to search for, but we're far from where we were at...and I fear it may never return.

Mainstream Rock is currently dead and it sucks.
Click to expand...
Sure it is. Depends on your taste. I think Spoon, The Walkmen, and Modest Mouse belong in that pantheon of bands. If anything those bands show a sharper critical eye and play different sounding stuff. The Walkmen built their own studio and their records sound hauntingly beautiful. Vampire Weekend still kills it, also achingly beautiful. It's just that rock and its dissemination isn't as monolithic now as when those bands operated. 

Radiohead as an example along with Guns N' Roses and Queen? 

Radiohead cut OK Computer in '97. I was twenty-four. As shuke points out, they just released a record and tour to sold-out arenas and festivals. 

Rock's not dead. They said that in 2002 and Franz Ferdinand wiped everybody off of the map. So did other bands in the dance punk revolution. 

 
TripItUp said:
But is it as good as Guns N Roses, Queen, Radiohead, U2, Fleetwood Mac etc. etc.

The answer is no, it's not.  Sure there is good rock music you have to search for, but we're far from where we were at...and I fear it may never return.

Mainstream Rock is currently dead and it sucks.
Click to expand...
Dooood. Maybe I'm weird but I get tired of most good songs after 20-30 listens. A great song after 50 or so. How many times have I heard every single track from Rumours, Appetite or Joshua Tree? Couple hundred, minimum? I'm over it.

You're comparing some of the greatest acts of all time (not Radiohead, they've always sucked and always will  :scared: ) that all peaked over 30 years ago and sold zillions of records to artists that can never hope to achieve those heights not because of a lack of quality but simply because the marketplace is so radically different.  It's apples and chihuahuas. 

It's harder to find the good stuff now, but I'm ok with it. It belongs to me now, not every single teeny bopper that turns on the radio.

 
rockaction said:
Sure it is. Depends on your taste. I think Spoon, The Walkmen, and Modest Mouse belong in that pantheon of bands. If anything those bands show a sharper critical eye and play different sounding stuff. The Walkmen built their own studio and their records sound hauntingly beautiful. Vampire Weekend still kills it, also achingly beautiful. It's just that rock and its dissemination isn't as monolithic now as when those bands operated. 

Radiohead as an example along with Guns N' Roses and Queen? 

Radiohead cut OK Computer in '97. I was twenty-four. As shuke points out, they just released a record and tour to sold-out arenas and festivals. 

Rock's not dead. They said that in 2002 and Franz Ferdinand wiped everybody off of the map. So did other bands in the dance punk revolution. 
Click to expand...
To each his own but I don't put Spoon, Walkmen, Modest Mouse or Ferdinand in the same stratosphere as a Nirvana or GnR.

:shrug:

 
TripItUp said:
To each his own but I don't put Spoon, Walkmen, Modest Mouse or Ferdinand in the same stratosphere as a Nirvana or GnR.

:shrug:
Click to expand...
Critics do. Often. Any best of list will have Spoon and Modest Mouse on it. Ask any critic about Franz Ferdinand's first one compared to Use Your Illusion I and II,  and you're in for quite the surprise. Sometimes a trained ear is better to trust than the masses.

I mean listen to these lyrics and see if I'm not making a point

Jacqueline was seventeen, working on a desk
When Ivor peered above a spectacle
Forgot that he had wrecked a girl
Sometimes these eyes forget the face they're peering from
When the face they peer upon
Well, you know that face as I do
And how in the return of the gaze
She can return you the face that you are staring from - Franz Ferdinand "Jacqueline"

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Why do you look at me when you hate me?
Why should I look at you when you make me hate you too?
I sense a smell of retribution in the air
I don't even understand why the #### you even care
And I don't need your jealousy yeah
Why drag me down in your misery  - Guns N' Roses "Get In The Ring"

So ask a critic or even someone literary which they prefer.

But I take your point. Those bands haven't seen the hagiographic reception that bands like G N' R, Nirvana, Queen, and Fleetwood did because those bands captured a lot of people's attention while bands like Spoon or the Walkmen or Modest Mouse (least of which, by the way) flew under the radar. 

But Herb's right -- the marketplace is just different now. It's largely DIY and self-made as opposed to major labels, A & R men, and radio, which allowed for a communality and the aforementioned mythology those bands created. It's not even just the marketplace, people are different. They don't trust top-down stuff anymore and instead of it making legends, the public turns it back, as far as rock is concerned, anyway. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I should say that I take your points and that I may be in the minority, I just simply disagree with most people even though I'd like to agree with them.

I just can't. And I just don't think rock is dead. 

 
I don't believe that it is dead--but music in general is facing some really large challenges.  I was listening to an interview with the members of "Muse" not super long ago--and they were talking about how the music industry is one of the industries that has been hit the hardest by the advancement of automation.  In the past a musician would have to spend years/decades mastering an instrument or craft to develop a sound. Vocalists would have to practice hard and hire coaches to get their voices to achieve sounds that they wanted to get to in certain songs.  Musicians would have to practice for endless hours in order to make sure that the music they produced sounded good when they were actually performing live.  Nowadays--you can have a teenager that has no idea how to play any musical instrument make music and market it to millions of people through their ipad.  Artists are filling arenas with basically ipads/tablets in front of them.  Don't get me wrong--there will always be musical purists that won't buy into this new wave of musical automation--but finding those real musician purists will require some effort and digging for.  

 
Juxtatarot said:
Modest Mouse lyric
Click to expand...
True to an extent. They do say "well," "####," and he even has a lisp, but most of their lyrics are ton better than gems like Nighttrain, or It's So Easy, or November Rain, or name it. 

And I know you're kidding because of your avatar, but in terms of literary quality, it's not close.  

eta* For those confused by the exchange, his avatar, I think, is a still from the video for "King Rat" a song off a Modest Mouse EP Called No One's First, And You're Next

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Rock Is Dead, Thank God

Rock Is Dead, Thank God

It’s time to face the reality that rock has been eclipsed by pop, hip-hop, and EDM, and accept that it might actually be a positive thing for the genre.

The phrase “rock is dead” makes people angry. Whisper it in seclusion at the top of the Himalayas and 30 people in CBGB shirts will materialize to drop some well, actuallys... on you. The subject is such trite internet bait that gallantly defending rock’s honor has become Rock Journalism 101. Most of the many, many Rock Ain’t Dead thinkpieces being published fall into a handful of predictable tropes. Sometimes they’re written by old guard writers—the guitar-worshipping hangers-on of rock’s bygone heyday—whose kneejerk reactions come off like the meme of Principal Skinner asking himself if he’s so out of touch with youth culture before determining that no, it’s the children who are wrong. Other times, more in-touch writers will point out that rock isn’t dead, it’s just finally evolving to become more inclusive of women and people of color, while cheerleading for a few of their favorite examples. And while that is true and good, it’s not what people mean when they say “rock is dead.” They mean that from an industry perspective, the genre has been eclipsed in all measures of popularity and profitability by pop, hip-hop, and EDM. And by those standards, yes, rock is dead.

It’s a hard pill to swallow, I know, especially for those who don’t often look outside the genre. How can rock be dead when your favorite band just played a sold-out show, or a groundbreaking new rock album got Best New Music at Pitchfork? The future looks promising on the surface, but these are but mere glimmers on ocean waves carrying off a floating corpse.

The writing has been on the wall for a while. For the last few years, the Billboard rock charts have been an abysmal slog of new pop artists that occasionally hold guitars like fashion accessories (as of writing this, Imagine Dragons hold the top three slots on the rock songs list), older acts who’ve grandfathered their way into the system like Godsmack and Arctic Monkeys, and decades-old rock albums that are suddenly relevant due to its creator dying or becoming newsworthy. I don’t know if there’s a more sobering indicator than the fact that The Guardians of the Galaxy 2 soundtrack dominated the rock charts for 22 weeks last year, even hitting number one.

Hip-hop has such a tight stranglehold on new music right now that Kanye West, who made national news by aligning himself with the ideological scum of the earth, farted out a joke single of poopity scoop jibberish that racked up over seven million streams and came within an inch of cracking into the Billboard Hot 100 chart, while his album went to number one. Not even taking a literal #### on a microphone while donning the official hat of xenophobia could derail hip-hop’s momentum.

So irrelevant is rock in the music industry at large that the Grammys didn’t even bother to air its rock category awards at this year’s ceremony. Avenged Sevenfold, seemingly through some sort of unfortunate clerical error, was nominated for a Grammy for “Best Rock Song” but had the good sense not to show up for the untelevised award presentation. (Foo Fighters took home the award anyway, though, since the Grammys were dangerously close to recognizing a band that’s been around for less than two decades.)

But beyond sales figures and streaming numbers, rock’s death knell can be heard on the ground. I’m not sure how much time the “rock ain’t dead!” defenders spend among teenage music fans, but I’d recommend they give it a whirl. Last weekend I walked across a bridge of vomiting teenagers to Governors Ball, an all-ages outdoor New York festival that encompasses a wide range of genres. And when presented with a variety of musical options, take a guess as to which the barf kids chose. That’s right, they picked Not Rock. Japandroids and The Menzingers, two reliable mid- to large club bands, played to half-empty fields while kids flocked to Halsey and Post Malone. Even The Gaslight Anthem, the rock darlings who came out of semi-retirement to play their entire fan-favorite album as the Saturday night headliner, looked out onto a sparsely filled field. Meanwhile, a couple hundred yards away, Travis Scott’s sea of barf teens was so massive that someone had to come on stage before his set to instruct the crowd to move back because the people up front were getting squished.

Even as a longtime Gaslight fan I could concede to being outmatched. While the New Jersey band’s set was an intimate affair backdropped by a simple banner, Travis Scott’s set looked like Tokyo on Ecstasy—a multi-media party where the stage was decked out in flashing TV screens, fog machines, and lasers, while the shirtless Scott bounced off the monitors. To a generation raised on Snapchat filters and vape tricks, of course this seemed like the more attractive option.

Even Galantis, who played on the same stage as Gaslight a few hours prior, drew a more substantial crowd, despite being, as far as I could tell, the Hoobastank of EDM. Their act was two identical, but not biologically related, men with presumably functional microphones hyping the crowd up for 45 minutes while 12-foot high flames shot out of the ground. I don’t care what kind of music you listen to or how old you are, flamethrowers are just ####### cool. But beyond their engaging visual aspect, it’s not hard to figure out why Galantis was popular at an all-ages music festival. Their music, even if you’ve never heard it, sounds familiar. It sounds like a commercial for a cool product.

The coveted youth demo is currently being advertised to more than ever before. Ads are ####### everywhere, and pop music is no exception. Product placements are a staple of the modern music video, with Miley Cyrus applying EOS lip balm in “We Can’t Stop,” Migos prominently displaying (and singing about) 19 brands like Chanel and Segway in “Bad and Boujee,” and just about everyone shilling for Beats by Dre. One of the most celebrated music videos this year—Spike Jonze's trippy collaboration with FKA twigs—was actually a four-minute commercial for Apple’s HomePod speaker. Companies are marketing so aggressively to younger listeners that branding and its feel-good lifestyle pitches seem omnipresent, which explains why popular music, objectively speaking, sucks ###. To borrow a joke from John Mulaney, every song is about how tonight is the night and we only have tonight. So it’s no wonder festival kids want to listen to songs that sound like commercials. Kids want familiarity. Kids want music to dance and take drugs to. Kids want Galantis.

But even though things look grim for rock, here’s the bright side: The genre has always best served as the underdog. In fact, whenever rock has gotten a shot at the mainstream, it’s almost always #### the bed. While it’s tempting to look back on rock’s grunge boom in the 90s as the genre’s recent glory days, it’s easy to forget that boom periods typically only benefit a small number of people and leave the rest on the curb. While Nirvana, the Smashing Pumpkins, and Soundgarden get remembered fondly, a thousand other acts get forgotten—one-hit wonders at best. For every Green Day, and their breakout megaseller Dookie, there are a hundred Jawbreakers whose Dear Yous disappointed the major labels who swept them under the rug of history. It’s been said that a rising tide raises all boats, but no one talks about the castaways who drown.

Another thing that always gets glossed over when remembering genre boom periods is their embarrassing aftermaths. Whenever a truly innovative artist defines a new sound, it gets carbon copied for at least a decade until what’s left is an embarrassing abomination bearing almost no resemblance to the spirit of the original. Pearl Jam’s Ten spawned a new wave of scruff-rock in 1991, and nearly 30 years later we’re still stuck with Chad Kroeger doing his fifth-rate Eddie Vedder impression in Nickelback. It’s happened in every genre, when the talentless clones copy and paste a formula to create something devoid of any soul and eventually kill it off. In metal, it was Winger. In pop punk, it was SR-71. In hardcore, it was every band that came after Minor Threat.

So what will happen to rock in the future? A commercial resurgence anytime soon seems unlikely, but then again, The Strokes and a whole slew of bands reaped surprise mainstream success at the turn of the century without reinventing much of anything. Maybe all rock needs is some charismatic wunderkind—the next Joe Strummer or Joan Jett—to come along and blow the door open for a flood of new rock bands. But given how many excellent rock bands are currently enjoying mid-tier status, it seems like that would have already happened by now.

Maybe rock will gradually start to appear more appealing by comparison as its hip-hop and EDM counterparts grow older and bloated with their own SR-71s and Wingers. Or maybe rock as we know it will never cycle back in vogue. It could very well get smaller and smaller as its last dinosaurs like Metallica and U2 die off and the genre will exist on the fringes as a mere touchstone that popular artists pay homage to, like when a rapper samples an old jazz song or when Jack White pretends to play the blues.

Regardless of what happens to rock in the future, though, it’s actually in a great spot right now, with too many worthwhile acts and splintered subgenres to possibly mention here. While rock may be getting nudged out of the top, its middle is expanding. The more its popularity shrinks, the more it attracts freaks and weirdos—those with something to prove and nothing to gain. The more the traditional rock star career path crumbles, the more it draws in the true, inimitable visionaries making groundbreaking work for the sake of art and not money. Hopeful thinking? Sure. But the alternative is to accept that guitars are playing the siren song of a floating corpse.
Click to expand...

 
Wait, he spends all article saying rock is dead but really isn't because now it's underground? 

I mean, he's a good writer, but his point is convoluted.  

I don't get his point.

eta* Thanks for posting. Great read.  

 
Last edited by a moderator:
rockaction said:
Wait, he spends all article saying rock is dead but really isn't because now it's underground? 

I mean, he's a good writer, but his point is convoluted.  

I don't get his point.
Click to expand...
He says right at the top that it might actually be a positive thing for the genre.

 
jamny said:
He says right at the top that it might actually be a positive thing for the genre.
Click to expand...
Right, I caught that, but then how is it dead? That's an odd paradoxical way to look it at.

It's weird to have my moniker and take the side of rock. (Duh.) It's just that I see so many good bands every day the genre is just much better off than it was in the seventies and eighties, which is what everyone here seems to be arguing (seventies aside from punk that is).

Anyway, I see plenty of kids into rock. See this:

https://youtu.be/JX4Q2ydSvzg?t=19 

or this scene

https://youtu.be/JX4Q2ydSvzg?t=143

 
Last edited by a moderator:
TripItUp said:
yk

IMHO neither has put out an album worth listening to in over 10 years.

Rock is dead.
Click to expand...
I'm not the hippest guy when it comes to new music, but just thinking off the top of my head, how much have you listened to any of the following:

Tame Impala
Spoon
Carseat Headrest
Drive By Truckers
Silversun Pickups
Cage the Elephant
Modest Mouse
 

These are bands that have a sound you may be looking for.  I could list dozens more that I like but may not fit in the sub-genre you're looking for.

 
Rock is not dead. Jazz is not dead. Classical is not dead. Hell, ragtime might not even be dead.

But Rock no longer abides, dude.

 
If you think rock is dead and your logic is it isn't played on top 40 radio anymore...  let's just say not only has rock music passed you by, but how entertainment is consumed these days has also passed you by.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Northern Voice said:
If you think rock is dead and your logic is it isn't played on top 40 radio anymore...  let's just say not only has rock music passed you by, but how entertainment is consumed these days has also passed you by.
Click to expand...
The market and industry forces are really strange.  Pink can sell out a place for $250 a ticket on up to 1000s of dollars up front.  Ancient rock acts are asking 2x that and get it within seconds of the tickets opening up.

Front line upcoming rock acts are lucky to get 50 a head to a small venue and the venue and tickemaster eats most of that.  So you barely get the promotion content and awareness.  

Live Nation and Ticketmaster really hurt as much, if not more than Spotify.  If you can't sell albums because albums are dead, you can't make beer money touring, and spotify pays you 10 cents every 10k impressions you probably just join a 80s cover band and do weddings.  

 
The comments about rock music not being accessible anymore because it's not being played on mainstream Top 40 radio is kind of funny to me.  Much of the best rock music of the 70s and 80s wasn't easily accessible on the radio either.

 
Juxtatarot said:
The comments about rock music not being accessible anymore because it's not being played on mainstream Top 40 radio is kind of funny to me.  Much of the best rock music of the 70s and 80s wasn't easily accessible on the radio either.
Click to expand...
I also don't understand how they're quantifying rock as dead either. Because festival crowds don't choose to see the Gaslight Anthem? Hell, I'd choose most hip hop over the Gaslight Anthem. People have diverse tastes these days. That's what choice qua choice wrought. They've been writing rock's death knell since its existence and it just keeps trucking, an inexorable force, signifying nothing.  

 
Last edited by a moderator:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

bigbottom
2024 Edition - Please help bigbottom win a Battle of the Bands and support Chance for Hope as a Bonus! Just a $10 donation makes a difference
Replies
26
Views
410
Mr.Pack
Mr.Pack
timschochet
Taking requests for another music list countdown
Replies
35
Views
716
krista4
krista4
Anarchy99
Top 250 Best Selling Rock Albums (1967 - 1981)
12 13 14
Replies
675
Views
16K
zamboni
zamboni

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Top