Is Shohei Ohtani the greatest baseball player of all time? (2 Viewers)

[drummer]

When you surround him with a team that would break the bank of a small nation...

Edit: his post season was really *** except for game four, and Teooscar and Muncy came though, but tim doesn't watch sports, or know much about them, so you have this as a thread in the FFA.

The Dodger pitching is why they are back in the WS. If it weren't for Roberts tossing a bone to Clayton Chokeshaw in the post season, they could had posted a perfect win total despite Otahni's really poor post season stretch. He was *** this post season. The betting markets had Freeman the NLCS MVP until game four. Edman was the NLCS MVP last NLCS with Ohtani on the team. . Onve again. tim has no idea of what he is talking about.

I have no idea why you want to personally insult me.
Also, I never raised the subject of whether or not the Dodgers are a great team or if Ohtani is the reason they are a great team. So your entire response here is irrelevant.

I thought it was an interesting topic of conversation. I am certainly not the only one who has raised it. It’s all over sports talk. I thought it would be fun to get people to talk about it here. Judging by the responses I was right about that. If you disagree why bother posting?

Because you posted this after game 4 of the NLCS. A better argument would had been "Is Otahni the greatest Dodger of all time?". Because he's not the greatest baseball player of all time. He might not even be the best Dodger of all time.

And hey, you're not a victim here. You ask a question like that in any sports bar where there are fans of baseball and they would think you don't follow baseball and say it to your face.

 

[dgreen]

No chance they pitch to him in the ninth, right?

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

*Not coincidentally, to me Ohtani is the modern day Ruth.

People keep saying this but he really isn’t.

Ruth had a career as an elite pitcher (one of the best of his era but not quite hall of fame level) and then a second career as probably the greatest power hitter of all time. But the two careers don’t really coincide.

he also played in a segregated league.

And probably saw a 100mph fastball never in his career.

Gwynn is the mark ohtani needs to hit for his career numbers to be the goat. And i dont think anyone will ever come close to that. Ruth did it in a time that no one had ever seen that kind of power/pitching and half the time was facing 82mph fastballs. He was 1 of 1 in the 1920s.

Not to get into the intergenrational debate but what Gwynn did is, to me, far more unobtainable than anything ruth did.

Edit for context: Gwynn struck out only 188 times in the entire 1990s decade, while Ohtani struck out 189 times in his 2021 MVP season alone.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

As for the vest SINGLE post season game ever? Maybe. Reggie Jackson has an argument though.

 

[Ted Stickles]

*Not coincidentally, to me Ohtani is the modern day Ruth.

People keep saying this but he really isn’t.

Ruth had a career as an elite pitcher (one of the best of his era but not quite hall of fame level) and then a second career as probably the greatest power hitter of all time. But the two careers don’t really coincide.

he also played in a segregated league.

And probably saw a 100mph fastball never in his career.

Gwynn is the mark ohtani needs to hit for his career numbers to be the goat. And i dont think anyone will ever come close to that. Ruth did it in a time that no one had ever seen that kind of power/pitching and half the time was facing 82mph fastballs. He was 1 of 1 in the 1920s.

Not to get into the intergenrational debate but what Gwynn did is, to me, far more unobtainable than anything ruth did.

Edit for context: Gwynn struck out only 188 times in the entire 1990s decade, while Ohtani struck out 189 times in his 2021 MVP season alone.

How did Tony Gywnn #19 make into this conversation? Great batting average hitter but Gywnn was one of the top All-Star hitters during the 80's/90's but so was Ryne Sandberg and Wade Boggs.

 

[drummer]

In for tim's "Is Freddie Freeman the greatest Dodger of all time?".

tim is a reason why Twitter/X was created. Because it's not a safe space for tim like the FFA is.

 

[-fish-]

*Not coincidentally, to me Ohtani is the modern day Ruth.

People keep saying this but he really isn’t.

Ruth had a career as an elite pitcher (one of the best of his era but not quite hall of fame level) and then a second career as probably the greatest power hitter of all time. But the two careers don’t really coincide.

he also played in a segregated league.

And probably saw a 100mph fastball never in his career.

Gwynn is the mark ohtani needs to hit for his career numbers to be the goat. And i dont think anyone will ever come close to that. Ruth did it in a time that no one had ever seen that kind of power/pitching and half the time was facing 82mph fastballs. He was 1 of 1 in the 1920s.

Not to get into the intergenrational debate but what Gwynn did is, to me, far more unobtainable than anything ruth did.

Edit for context: Gwynn struck out only 188 times in the entire 1990s decade, while Ohtani struck out 189 times in his 2021 MVP season alone.

How did Tony Gywnn #19 make into this conversation? Great batting average hitter but Gywnn was one of the top All-Star hitters during the 80's/90's but so was Ryne Sandberg and Wade Boggs.

Tony Gwynn may be the most overrated player of all time.