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is there any good reason why the uprights arent 10 feet taller (1 Viewer)

Swaying might be an issue with higher goalposts. The taller they are, the more back and forth action they will have, while increasing the height will decrease the tensile strength, increasing the risk a goalpost breaking under stress.

 
Is there any reason why there isn't giant laser beams at the tops of the uprights? Engineers should be able to pull this off.

 
Have you seen the price of steel lately?

Maybe the NFL should subtract those costs out of their offer for the refs. Make those refs pay for it. It would make their jobs easier.

 
Is there any reason to believe the kicker actually missed the field goal? The ref with the best view said it was good, I believe him.

 
Is there any reason why there isn't giant laser beams at the tops of the uprights? Engineers should be able to pull this off.
this is the answer...it's not that hard...you put a chip in the ball and at the top of the goal posts and you can tell if it's inside or outside. If you watch tennis and see how accurate they can get that tennis ball and whether it's in or out travelling at 130 mph, they can certainly do it for a football.
 
Is there any reason why there isn't giant laser beams at the tops of the uprights? Engineers should be able to pull this off.
this is the answer...it's not that hard...you put a chip in the ball and at the top of the goal posts and you can tell if it's inside or outside. If you watch tennis and see how accurate they can get that tennis ball and whether it's in or out travelling at 130 mph, they can certainly do it for a football.
You really do not even need the chip. Cost wise this would be very easy to do. However I would have some concerns on the weather effecting it.
 
Is there any reason why there isn't giant laser beams at the tops of the uprights? Engineers should be able to pull this off.
this is the answer...it's not that hard...you put a chip in the ball and at the top of the goal posts and you can tell if it's inside or outside. If you watch tennis and see how accurate they can get that tennis ball and whether it's in or out travelling at 130 mph, they can certainly do it for a football.
You really do not even need the chip. Cost wise this would be very easy to do. However I would have some concerns on the weather effecting it.
I think your missing it.the chains create great TV drama, makes a more entertainnig TV product.
 
I would imagine it may obstruct the view for more fans. So you are probably the reason they are not higher. GG.
I don't think a higher goal post would be that obstructive since it would only affect people sitting higher up.I personally think they should put some type of explosive forcefield in between the goal posts. That way if the kick is good, the ball would just explode once it goes through the uprights. How exciting would that be?
 
Is there any reason why there isn't giant laser beams at the tops of the uprights? Engineers should be able to pull this off.
this is the answer...it's not that hard...you put a chip in the ball and at the top of the goal posts and you can tell if it's inside or outside. If you watch tennis and see how accurate they can get that tennis ball and whether it's in or out travelling at 130 mph, they can certainly do it for a football.
You really do not even need the chip. Cost wise this would be very easy to do. However I would have some concerns on the weather effecting it.
I think your missing it.the chains create great TV drama, makes a more entertainnig TV product.
Yes, but it would be cool to light up the field right where they need to get to for the 1st down.
 
I like the idea for laser rays coming vertically off the top of the goal posts. Make the rays strong enough to visibly see them from the stands on kicks. And also ought to have digital horizontal yellow stripes that paint the field and can be visibly seen from the stands too. And let's insert chips at the elbow pads and knee pads that detect the moment of contact to the millimeter of where the digital yellow line is while were at it. Digitize the goal lines and end zone with markings that dilineate the pylon markers. Go crazy with LED's I say.

 
I would imagine it may obstruct the view for more fans. So you are probably the reason they are not higher. GG.
I don't think a higher goal post would be that obstructive since it would only affect people sitting higher up.I personally think they should put some type of explosive forcefield in between the goal posts. That way if the kick is good, the ball would just explode once it goes through the uprights. How exciting would that be?
You have my vote for Commissioner
 
I would imagine it may obstruct the view for more fans. So you are probably the reason they are not higher. GG.
I don't think a higher goal post would be that obstructive since it would only affect people sitting higher up.I personally think they should put some type of explosive forcefield in between the goal posts. That way if the kick is good, the ball would just explode once it goes through the uprights. How exciting would that be?
You have my vote for Commissioner
+1
 
I have long thought they could do many things like this if they wanted to. Electronic eyes determining if a kick is good, tracking of the 10 yard markers, a chip inside the ball that would make a light go off when crossing the end zone to aid when did a ball cross the goal line, etc.

I'm afraid it might mean the need for less refs though and they might strike? :unsure:

 
Adam Carolla would not approve of Patriots-Ravens finish

September 24, 2012 (LA TIMES)

Baltimore Ravens kicker Justin Tucker booted a 27-yard field goal as time expired Sunday to beat the New England Patriots, 31-30.

Right?

The ball sailed over the right upright, leaving viewers to wonder if the kick was actually good — except for Ravens fans (it was totally good!) and Patriots fans (these replacement refs are horrible!).

One man has been preaching the solution to this problem for years, and I now consider myself a follower of his sermon.

Adam Carolla, radio host and founder of Carolla Digital, has suggested extending the uprights at least a half dozen times since I started tuning in regularly a couple of years back.

He now has exhibit A — or B, C, or D ... who knows?

Watch the clip below to hear Carolla's patented argument, while NFL.com's Dave Dameshek plays the role of an intransigent Bill Simmons, the editor-in-chief of Grantland.

With Simmons' beloved Patriots getting the short end of the stick last night, I wonder how the same conversation with the Sports Guy — real or fake — might sound like this morning.
 
I would imagine it may obstruct the view for more fans. So you are probably the reason they are not higher. GG.
I don't think a higher goal post would be that obstructive since it would only affect people sitting higher up.I personally think they should put some type of explosive forcefield in between the goal posts. That way if the kick is good, the ball would just explode once it goes through the uprights. How exciting would that be?
You have my vote for Commissioner
Agreed.
 
I would imagine it may obstruct the view for more fans. So you are probably the reason they are not higher. GG.
I don't think a higher goal post would be that obstructive since it would only affect people sitting higher up.I personally think they should put some type of explosive forcefield in between the goal posts. That way if the kick is good, the ball would just explode once it goes through the uprights. How exciting would that be?
This would also be awesome after touchdowns when players dunk the ball over the crossbar.
 
Swaying might be an issue with higher goalposts. The taller they are, the more back and forth action they will have, while increasing the height will decrease the tensile strength, increasing the risk a goalpost breaking under stress.
All of these concerns are easily avoided or fixed. The stiffness of the metal used could easily be increased which would avoid the potential sway. This would also increase the strain which would lower the tensile strength but that is a relatively absurd worry either way. A football striking a goal post at that high will not have nearly enough power/velocity to break the post.
 
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Problem with laser beam idea or camera idea is what if the ball passes directly over the goal post? When a ball hits an upright sometimes it fall in, sometimes out. There is no way to determine this without extending the uprights higher.

 
Problem with laser beam idea or camera idea is what if the ball passes directly over the goal post? When a ball hits an upright sometimes it fall in, sometimes out. There is no way to determine this without extending the uprights higher.
Pretty easy to fix that. If the ball touches the freaking laser beam, its good. If it doesn't, no good.
 
Laser beams won't work. Besides the alignment issues, everyone knows laser beams cut footballs right in half.

 
Problem with laser beam idea or camera idea is what if the ball passes directly over the goal post? When a ball hits an upright sometimes it fall in, sometimes out. There is no way to determine this without extending the uprights higher.
Pretty easy to fix that. If the ball touches the freaking laser beam, its good. If it doesn't, no good.
would you also change the rules to say that if the ball hits the upright its good? Same reasoning :shrug:
 
Problem with laser beam idea or camera idea is what if the ball passes directly over the goal post? When a ball hits an upright sometimes it fall in, sometimes out. There is no way to determine this without extending the uprights higher.
Pretty easy to fix that. If the ball touches the freaking laser beam, its good. If it doesn't, no good.
would you also change the rules to say that if the ball hits the upright its good? Same reasoning :shrug:
No. It isn't the same reasoning.
 
Problem with laser beam idea or camera idea is what if the ball passes directly over the goal post? When a ball hits an upright sometimes it fall in, sometimes out. There is no way to determine this without extending the uprights higher.
Pretty easy to fix that. If the ball touches the freaking laser beam, its good. If it doesn't, no good.
would you also change the rules to say that if the ball hits the upright its good? Same reasoning :shrug:
No. It isn't the same reasoning.
Oh ok, makes total sense now.
 
Problem with laser beam idea or camera idea is what if the ball passes directly over the goal post? When a ball hits an upright sometimes it fall in, sometimes out. There is no way to determine this without extending the uprights higher.
Pretty easy to fix that. If the ball touches the freaking laser beam, its good. If it doesn't, no good.
would you also change the rules to say that if the ball hits the upright its good? Same reasoning :shrug:
No. It isn't the same reasoning.
It is odd that the football has to go through the uprights but once above that it only has to cross a portion of it. Really weird that the target expands at the top like that. No way that kick is good if the posts are there.
 
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Problem with laser beam idea or camera idea is what if the ball passes directly over the goal post? When a ball hits an upright sometimes it fall in, sometimes out. There is no way to determine this without extending the uprights higher.
Pretty easy to fix that. If the ball touches the freaking laser beam, its good. If it doesn't, no good.
would you also change the rules to say that if the ball hits the upright its good? Same reasoning :shrug:
No. It isn't the same reasoning.
It is odd that the football has to go through the uprights but once above that it only has to cross a portion of it. Really weird that the target expands at the top like that. No way that kick is good if the posts are there.
Eh, it's a pretty marginal difference. I'd probably make the target shrink above the goalposts (if any part of the ball hits the laser beam, it's no good), just to discourage kickers from aiming high. But I don't think it matters much, and either way would be better than the current situation.
 
Why don't they just put a ref directly beneath the goal post and have him make a pretty simple judgment call by looking up during FG's and PAT's, oh wait...

Am I missing something? Other than an irate lineman running towards the end zone, ripping off his helmet, and freaking out... Is there a real question as to whether or not the kick was good?

Looked good at the time. Looked good in replay. Looked "close", but still looked good. :shrug:

 
Is there any reason why there isn't giant laser beams at the tops of the uprights? Engineers should be able to pull this off.
this is the answer...it's not that hard...you put a chip in the ball and at the top of the goal posts and you can tell if it's inside or outside. If you watch tennis and see how accurate they can get that tennis ball and whether it's in or out travelling at 130 mph, they can certainly do it for a football.
In tennis this is actually done with a system of cameras.http://www.hawkeyeinnovations.co.uk/page/sports-officiating/tennis

 
Why don't they just put a ref directly beneath the goal post and have him make a pretty simple judgment call by looking up during FG's and PAT's, oh wait...Am I missing something? Other than an irate lineman running towards the end zone, ripping off his helmet, and freaking out... Is there a real question as to whether or not the kick was good?Looked good at the time. Looked good in replay. Looked "close", but still looked good. :shrug:
:goodposting: Of all the tough calls refs have, this really isnt one of them.
 
If a kicker can kick high enough to get over the uprights - it should be good as long as it goes right over the imaginary extension. What's the big deal?

 
Has there ever been a time where a goal post was ripped down by angry/excited fans like in college games? That could be bad if the uprights were 10 feet taller.

 
Just go to the old fashioned H goal posts...then you can extend them as high as you want. Or better yet, make them look like the foul pole in baseball or indoor football. Only problem would be one more obstacle for the players to avoid running into and vision issues for the fans. But it would solve the did it go through or not issue. No lasers, no judgement calls...it either goes through or it doesn't.

 
If you have lasers you can start to make targets inside the goalosts. Like you could have a 5X5 imaginary box marked and monitered by lasers dead center of the goalposts that makes a field goal try worth 4 points if you make it through that box. Or better yet it's location could be randomly determined and then the kicker would have to try and hit it.

 
Sharks with friggin laser beams attached to their heads!!!

Seriously who gives a rats ###? It hasn't mattered until now and probably won't going forward. The replacement ref thing should be more worried about than this.

 
Problem with laser beam idea or camera idea is what if the ball passes directly over the goal post? When a ball hits an upright sometimes it fall in, sometimes out. There is no way to determine this without extending the uprights higher.
Pretty easy to fix that. If the ball touches the freaking laser beam, its good. If it doesn't, no good.
would you also change the rules to say that if the ball hits the upright its good? Same reasoning :shrug:
No. It isn't the same reasoning.
It is odd that the football has to go through the uprights but once above that it only has to cross a portion of it. Really weird that the target expands at the top like that. No way that kick is good if the posts are there.
Eh, it's a pretty marginal difference. I'd probably make the target shrink above the goalposts (if any part of the ball hits the laser beam, it's no good), just to discourage kickers from aiming high. But I don't think it matters much, and either way would be better than the current situation.
The laser beam will cut the ball in half. If the bigger half goes through, its good.
 

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