who said anything about that?I dropped this guy after West got the head job. I am really regretting it now.
I really need to stop making dumb decisions.
If he is truly going to get all the carries then hes probably top 5 this season.
Crowell could potentially control the situation based on his next performance in a full time role.Im cautiously optimistic on what Crowell will do once Tate returns.
BumpLooks like somebody is on board
Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloom 10m
And now we are seeing some signs that #browns recognize what they have in him. May not take injuries for Crowell to climb that mountain.
Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloom 1m
@OrdioMongo CLE looks like they may have the best running game in the league and crowell's talent can create its own opportunity
Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloom 6m
with no remorse RT @Kripple1301 drop Gerhart for Crowell?
Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloom 9m
crowell over tate, yes RT @DcmRulz even over Ben Tate? (In a league where someone just cut him)
Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloom 12m
I don't know if events needed for Crowell to get lead role will unfold, but if they do, season-changer. FF RB1.
Sigmund Bloom @SigmundBloom 13m
If you're asking me Crowell or _____ on the WW this week, 99% answer is crowell. donald brown over him, that's about it.
I'm not certain MJD would fit that description since we have not yet seen what he is capable of this year.So I'll try to word this in a non-AC post kind of way.
If you have guys with a low ceiling but high floor on your bench that should only be needed in case of injuries or bye weeks, would you drop them for someone like Crowell?
Ps. I'm specifically referencing MJD but any guy that fits that mold is the broader question.
If you don't think your high floor/low ceiling guy is going to win you a championship he probably won't do it for someone else either. On the other hand, if this is a guy that is going to win you that *one* game because of bye weeks, injury, etc. I tend to like the safe choice.So I'll try to word this in a non-AC post kind of way.
If you have guys with a low ceiling but high floor on your bench that should only be needed in case of injuries or bye weeks, would you drop them for someone like Crowell?
Ps. I'm specifically referencing MJD but any guy that fits that mold is the broader question.
Yeah that's how I'm leaning. Just like the other guy said, SJax would be in the same boat. If you're starting him any more than a bye week fill in or injury fill in then you're in bad shape anyways. Crowell has the chance of being a difference maker. Yes the chance is probably not that high but if he does take the job then you're golden.If you don't think your high floor/low ceiling guy is going to win you a championship he probably won't do it for someone else either. On the other hand, if this is a guy that is going to win you that *one* game because of bye weeks, injury, etc. I tend to like the safe choice.So I'll try to word this in a non-AC post kind of way.
If you have guys with a low ceiling but high floor on your bench that should only be needed in case of injuries or bye weeks, would you drop them for someone like Crowell?
Ps. I'm specifically referencing MJD but any guy that fits that mold is the broader question.
Clear as mud, eh?
I think I'd drop MJD for Crowell personally, but it would depend who my starters are and where I am in the standings. Right now I could use a jolt on the team he's on.
I dropped Crowell for Moreno. Kicking myself after all the tweets we saw today, but I still think Moreno has less competition for carries when he comes back. Although miller finally looked good last week.So I'll try to word this in a non-AC post kind of way.
If you have guys with a low ceiling but high floor on your bench that should only be needed in case of injuries or bye weeks, would you drop them for someone like Crowell?
Ps. I'm specifically referencing MJD but any guy that fits that mold is the broader question.
it's the fantasy GMs who, in part , have had Tate on their rosters that can provide the feedback that Tate supporters don't want to hear: he was given a number of opportunities in Hou to take over for an injured Foster.he didnt just fail,he got hurt or just underwhelmed, or failed miserably..he is a bust of an NFL player. Even if he 'starts' West and Crowell will win over, and Tate will once again get hurt..please, take it from a former Tate apologist/supporter - he sucks.I honestly think people need to slow down with the shoveling of dirt onto Tate's grave. Ben Tate won this starting job coming out of the preseason, to the tune of being declared their 3 down workhorse. I know, the durability is and will continue to be a concern, but Tate was off to a fine start when he did get hurt. I can't see them just tossing Tate aside when he does return. Crowell, and to a lesser extent, West, have earned more touches... but I doubt Tate will be relegated to watching the other 2 on Sundays. I'm guessing we are heading for a muddy RBBC, where it'll be tough to pick a fantasy starter on any given week.
http://profootball.scout.com/story/1455105-coaches-confident-in-haden?s=127Will Tate Start?: RB Ben Tate (knee), OL John Greco, DL John Hughes and DL Calvin Barnett were on the stationary bikes during the part of practice open to the media.
Pettine mentioned that he wasn’t sure that Tate would be ready for when the team plays the Titans.
RB Isaiah Crowell took reps with the first team during the portion of practice open to the media. However, Pettine said RB Coach Wilbert Montgomery rotates the backs around and nothing should be read into it.
Montgomery was asked if Tate would be the starter when he returns.
“We brought him in to be the starting running back.”
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/05/former_alabama_state_rb_isaiah_1.htmlThis is probably covered earlier in this thread but what were the character issues with Crowell?
This article makes his "issues" basically sound like wrong place, wrong time.http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/05/former_alabama_state_rb_isaiah_1.htmlThis is probably covered earlier in this thread but what were the character issues with Crowell?
Ok this is more detailed:This article makes his "issues" basically sound like wrong place, wrong time.http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/05/former_alabama_state_rb_isaiah_1.htmlThis is probably covered earlier in this thread but what were the character issues with Crowell?
.I found the following article via another forum, and I'm not sure it's from a reputable reporter or site. But is it possible that Bloom/ Rotoworld are victims of confirmation bias, as the article states that the RB coach rotates the RBs during practice regularly and nothing should be inferred from Crowell going first.
I want to add Crowell, but I'm hesitant since I will have to drop a good player (Torrey Smith or Justin Hunter) to do so.
http://profootball.scout.com/story/1455105-coaches-confident-in-haden?s=127Will Tate Start?: RB Ben Tate (knee), OL John Greco, DL John Hughes and DL Calvin Barnett were on the stationary bikes during the part of practice open to the media.
Pettine mentioned that he wasn’t sure that Tate would be ready for when the team plays the Titans.
RB Isaiah Crowell took reps with the first team during the portion of practice open to the media. However, Pettine said RB Coach Wilbert Montgomery rotates the backs around and nothing should be read into it.
Montgomery was asked if Tate would be the starter when he returns.
“We brought him in to be the starting running back.”
Will Tate Start?: RB Ben Tate (knee), OL John Greco, DL John Hughes and DL Calvin Barnett were on the stationary bikes during the part of practice open to the media.
Pettine mentioned that he wasn’t sure that Tate would be ready for when the team plays the Titans
Drop West now and get "the Crow" ---ca-caw!Drafted Tate and West, and am seriously considering dropping West for Crowell this week. Can't drop anyone else due to bye issues.
He had 12 yards on 5 carries, then a 25 yard gain.1 9:52 0 - 3 1st-and-10 own 25 rushed for 2 yards 1 9:25 0 - 3 2nd-and-8 own 27 rushed for 7 yards 1 0:44 3 - 10 1st-and-10 own 14 rushed for -1 yards 2 9:36 3 - 17 2nd-and-10 own 9 rushed for 5 yards 2 7:40 3 - 24 1st-and-10 own 9 rushed for 3 yards 2 7:04 3 - 24 2nd-and-7 own 12 rushed for 25 yards (first down)
36 yards on 4 carries, 2 TDs, then a 4 yard loss.3 13:29 3 - 27 2nd-and-3 opp 3 rushed for 3 yards TOUCHDOWN 3 9:32 10 - 27 1st-and-10 opp 17 rushed for 2 yards 3 9:10 10 - 27 2nd-and-8 opp 15 rushed for 15 yards TOUCHDOWN 4 12:48 20 - 27 2nd-and-10 opp 38 rushed for 16 yards (first down) 4 12:18 20 - 27 1st-and-10 opp 22 rushed for -4 yards
Drop TATE now and get "the Crow" ---ca-caw!Drafted Tate and West, and am seriously considering dropping West for Crowell this week. Can't drop anyone else due to bye issues.
Only a matter of time. The only thing that stops 'The Crow' is 'The Crow' himself.SaintsInDome2006 said:Tate's carries vs PIT:
He had 12 yards on 5 carries, then a 25 yard gain.1 9:52 0 - 3 1st-and-10 own 25 rushed for 2 yards 1 9:25 0 - 3 2nd-and-8 own 27 rushed for 7 yards 1 0:44 3 - 10 1st-and-10 own 14 rushed for -1 yards 2 9:36 3 - 17 2nd-and-10 own 9 rushed for 5 yards 2 7:40 3 - 24 1st-and-10 own 9 rushed for 3 yards 2 7:04 3 - 24 2nd-and-7 own 12 rushed for 25 yards (first down)
Crowell's carries vs PIT
36 yards on 4 carries, 2 TDs, then a 4 yard loss.3 13:29 3 - 27 2nd-and-3 opp 3 rushed for 3 yards TOUCHDOWN 3 9:32 10 - 27 1st-and-10 opp 17 rushed for 2 yards 3 9:10 10 - 27 2nd-and-8 opp 15 rushed for 15 yards TOUCHDOWN 4 12:48 20 - 27 2nd-and-10 opp 38 rushed for 16 yards (first down) 4 12:18 20 - 27 1st-and-10 opp 22 rushed for -4 yards
Is that even possible? I thought he was on the "undroppable" list?Did you drop Sankey for him in redraft?Brewtown said:STUD!!!
Guys with character concerns seem to also be the best football players.Tool said:This is probably covered earlier in this thread but what were the character issues with Crowell?
So spend 100% of my FAAB on Hernandez?Guys with character concerns seem to also be the best football players.Tool said:This is probably covered earlier in this thread but what were the character issues with Crowell?
Because they play angryGuys with character concerns seem to also be the best football players.Tool said:This is probably covered earlier in this thread but what were the character issues with Crowell?
Definitely has a short lease as far as off the field incidents. Of course, in the current state of the NFL, EVERYONE has a short leash now. See Peterson. Crowell however is way too talented to do anything but hold onto, especially in dynasty. So far he has shown me that he can carry the load.So spend 100% of my FAAB on Hernandez?Guys with character concerns seem to also be the best football players.Tool said:This is probably covered earlier in this thread but what were the character issues with Crowell?
But seriously, that's a really dumb statement. Sometimes guys with character concerns are ridiculously talented and that's why they get a chance in the NFL. If Crowell didn't have character concerns, he might have been a 1st round pick this year and would be the unquestioned starter. Now he has to fight his way to getting playing time. He could have been drafted like a Lacy or Bell and expected to be the starter right from the beginning. He'd have a long leash instead of a short one.
This is an interesting problem.johnnyboy8102 said:Have West and Crow and holding both to see how it plays out
Just ignore the AC nazi's. As if anyone is here mining for information and ideas for any purpose other than to help their specific fantasy lineups.steveski said:So I'll try to word this in a non-AC post kind of way.
If you have guys with a low ceiling but high floor on your bench that should only be needed in case of injuries or bye weeks, would you drop them for someone like Crowell?
Ps. I'm specifically referencing MJD but any guy that fits that mold is the broader question.
Sorry I should have been more clear. I meant more of a short leash as far as playing time goes. One fumble or one missed block that gets his QB sacked and he's on the bench until someone else screws up and he gets another opportunity.Definitely has a short lease as far as off the field incidents. Of course, in the current state of the NFL, EVERYONE has a short leash now. See Peterson. Crowell however is way too talented to do anything but hold onto, especially in dynasty. So far he has shown me that he can carry the load.So spend 100% of my FAAB on Hernandez?Guys with character concerns seem to also be the best football players.Tool said:This is probably covered earlier in this thread but what were the character issues with Crowell?
But seriously, that's a really dumb statement. Sometimes guys with character concerns are ridiculously talented and that's why they get a chance in the NFL. If Crowell didn't have character concerns, he might have been a 1st round pick this year and would be the unquestioned starter. Now he has to fight his way to getting playing time. He could have been drafted like a Lacy or Bell and expected to be the starter right from the beginning. He'd have a long leash instead of a short one.
That's exactly the way I see it. Right now, the winning ticket is the one who doesn't screw up next.Sorry I should have been more clear. I meant more of a short leash as far as playing time goes. One fumble or one missed block that gets his QB sacked and he's on the bench until someone else screws up and he gets another opportunity.Definitely has a short lease as far as off the field incidents. Of course, in the current state of the NFL, EVERYONE has a short leash now. See Peterson. Crowell however is way too talented to do anything but hold onto, especially in dynasty. So far he has shown me that he can carry the load.So spend 100% of my FAAB on Hernandez?Guys with character concerns seem to also be the best football players.Tool said:This is probably covered earlier in this thread but what were the character issues with Crowell?
But seriously, that's a really dumb statement. Sometimes guys with character concerns are ridiculously talented and that's why they get a chance in the NFL. If Crowell didn't have character concerns, he might have been a 1st round pick this year and would be the unquestioned starter. Now he has to fight his way to getting playing time. He could have been drafted like a Lacy or Bell and expected to be the starter right from the beginning. He'd have a long leash instead of a short one.
The increasing probability is that Tate is back and starting after the bye. Maybe if/when Tate gets hurt Crowell will have a bigger role then he had in games 2 & 3 but until then Tate is the starter. Let's not put the cart before the horse.PhantomJB said:I'm not certain MJD would fit that description since we have not yet seen what he is capable of this year.steveski said:So I'll try to word this in a non-AC post kind of way.
If you have guys with a low ceiling but high floor on your bench that should only be needed in case of injuries or bye weeks, would you drop them for someone like Crowell?
Ps. I'm specifically referencing MJD but any guy that fits that mold is the broader question.
But someone like Steven Jackson if he were just sitting on my bench yes I would drop for Crowell. The upside is just too great combined with increasing probability he'll take over as lead back. If I went zero RB and had SJax as my RB2 with a strong WR corps I'd think a little harder.
Worst case come bye week just pick up a plodder like Shonn Greene and he'll get 80% of a high floor guy like SJax would have gotten.