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jtd13
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jurb26
Footballguy
No, some of us have said all along he looks ordinary.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Look at his highlights from last year and show me where he looks special. I don't see anything special at all.
duaneok66
Footballguy
RealReactions
Footballguy
Dude is riding the bench until he proves he deserves to be in my starting lineup. Took an L last week because i started him over sproles in ppr
purestrength
Footballguy
Caw caw!
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
We're live.
thecardiackid
Footballguy
nice, and mostly thanks to the browns defensive effort. not sure if he's going to break into the lineup just yet, but crow owners needed a game like this. and if you're not sold, maybe a decent time to move him.
I would like to see more than 15 carries, but I heard the entire offense only ran 45 plays.
I would like to see more than 15 carries, but I heard the entire offense only ran 45 plays.
Banger
Footballguy
that's a fair point...you'd certainly hope with that perfect game script...at home up 28-0 at the half and you end up with 15 carries...from the looks of it neither guy has distinguished themselves so far so it'll likely remain a timeshare/split.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
The 2nd half played out like this:
Crowell, 7 carries : 9, 8, -3, 15, 6, 2, 2 = 5.6ypc
Duke, 7 carries: -1, -1, 5, -2, 0, 3, 2 = 0.85ypc
Now... a very small sample size, but I've always said Crow is a guy who needs to run 20+ a game, esp late in the game when his bruising style takes it's toll on the opponent.
The way the game ended is pretty telling... Crow just looked miles better, and got a filthy, hard-earned score.
Crowell, 7 carries : 9, 8, -3, 15, 6, 2, 2 = 5.6ypc
Duke, 7 carries: -1, -1, 5, -2, 0, 3, 2 = 0.85ypc
Now... a very small sample size, but I've always said Crow is a guy who needs to run 20+ a game, esp late in the game when his bruising style takes it's toll on the opponent.
The way the game ended is pretty telling... Crow just looked miles better, and got a filthy, hard-earned score.
lod01
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lod01
Footballguy
He is. Not sure why people think he is going to be the guy there when history shows guys that size are not 3 down RBs anymore. I've been fooled twice (Gio & Freeman). Wasn't getting fooled this year.
Banger
Footballguy
what matters is what the coaches do and who they play...right now it's an even split after 2 games 26 snaps for Duke and 24 for Crow.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
The Benjamin explosion has to be good for the Crow and Duke right? Will anybody not put a safety over the top of Travis again this year?
Mr. Soup Nazi
Footballguy
TZMarkie
Footballguy
I told myself I wasn't getting sucked in to having any shares of this committee this year, after having West and Crowell last year in one league.
Then the preseason rolled along, I liked what I was hearing and it looked like Crowell would at least be good value where he went in drafts.
So I got him on 2 squads, and got Duke right with him in the last or next to last round too.
I will likely end up starting Crow some weeks, he looks like he is going to be a good spot play here and there.
But if he fumbles one more time at the wrong moment, I fear he will be benched again, at least temporarily.
I have to start him in one league this week for sure, where I have him, Alfred Morris, Lamar Miller and a few back up type guys.
This guy looks good in spots but is frustrating to own.... and I'm starting to think Pettine isn't doing any of us any favors either, or at least it doesn't seem that way.
TZM
Then the preseason rolled along, I liked what I was hearing and it looked like Crowell would at least be good value where he went in drafts.
So I got him on 2 squads, and got Duke right with him in the last or next to last round too.
I will likely end up starting Crow some weeks, he looks like he is going to be a good spot play here and there.
But if he fumbles one more time at the wrong moment, I fear he will be benched again, at least temporarily.
I have to start him in one league this week for sure, where I have him, Alfred Morris, Lamar Miller and a few back up type guys.
This guy looks good in spots but is frustrating to own.... and I'm starting to think Pettine isn't doing any of us any favors either, or at least it doesn't seem that way.
TZM
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Soulfly3
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Browns coach Mike Pettine expects to stick with a committee at running back going forward, though he acknowledges Isaiah Crowell "responded" in Sunday's win against the Titans after a rough Week 1.
Pettine was especially pleased with Crowell shedding a "bunch" of tackles after he was bottled up by the Jets in the opener. Crowell out-touched Duke Johnson just 15-12 on Sunday, but averaged 4.8 yards per carry to Johnson's 3.6. Although it hasn't happened yet, Johnson should develop as a passing-down complement to Crowell's early-down banging.
Pettine was especially pleased with Crowell shedding a "bunch" of tackles after he was bottled up by the Jets in the opener. Crowell out-touched Duke Johnson just 15-12 on Sunday, but averaged 4.8 yards per carry to Johnson's 3.6. Although it hasn't happened yet, Johnson should develop as a passing-down complement to Crowell's early-down banging.
Right now it looks like Crow is really focusing on not fumbling. He's covering it up with both hands well before he hits the hole and well after he gets through the first line. Ball security is obviously on his mind.
Don't get me wrong I think he's running good now but IMO this is slowing him down getting through the holes. He's not fumbling, yes but he's also not hitting home runs either. Once he feels comfortable again holding on to the football I think we see him break some longer runs. Looking forward to watching him the rest of the year to see how he progresses.
It's a much better situation for him with Manziel at QB. He's not afraid to take the top off the D. McCown, I'm not so sure.
For fantasy purposes I'd rather have Crow because inside the 10 he's money but neither are very spectacular plays right now.
Don't get me wrong I think he's running good now but IMO this is slowing him down getting through the holes. He's not fumbling, yes but he's also not hitting home runs either. Once he feels comfortable again holding on to the football I think we see him break some longer runs. Looking forward to watching him the rest of the year to see how he progresses.
It's a much better situation for him with Manziel at QB. He's not afraid to take the top off the D. McCown, I'm not so sure.
For fantasy purposes I'd rather have Crow because inside the 10 he's money but neither are very spectacular plays right now.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
I've been on an NFL GamePass binge over the past couple of days and as you might guess Crow was one of the players I was most excited to see run from week 2. For the most part, he ran decisively. When a cut-back lane presented itself he'd burst through it and in to the second level. It was actually his 4-yard gains that were most impressive to me, as they encapsulate the decisiveness I spoke about above. His longer gains should largely be credited to the OL who opened up some massive holes for him late in the game. Lastly, on a handful of carries he showed the ability to get to the edge quickly, it may be a part of his game that is slightly underestimated.
I started him over Ivory last week, mostly because I'm a bush and will auto sit anyone who I think may be hampered by an injury. I also noticed something interesting leading up to week 2 to aid that decision and it was his home/away splits. Last year..
Home - 69/319/3 (4.6YPC)
Away - 79/288/5 (3.6YPC)
It could mean something or nothing entirely.
Now for the OAK match-up. First off, its at home (again, may mean nothing). Vegas has CLE favored by 4.5 with an O/U of 41.5 so game flow is predicted to be in his favor. I also ended up watching some film of Taliaferro who faced off against OAK last week, he had no problem gashing them on the few runs he was given (7/34/1). Forsett didn't do too bad himself (15/68/0) but I feel Taliaferro is a better comp. I think crow could have a very similar game to the one he had vs. TEN last week and I think it puts him squarely on RB2/flex radar. What I really want to see is him touch the ball 20 times a game but that just isn't going to happen with Duke around, even if Duke was much more ineffective last week.
I started him over Ivory last week, mostly because I'm a bush and will auto sit anyone who I think may be hampered by an injury. I also noticed something interesting leading up to week 2 to aid that decision and it was his home/away splits. Last year..
Home - 69/319/3 (4.6YPC)
Away - 79/288/5 (3.6YPC)
It could mean something or nothing entirely.
Now for the OAK match-up. First off, its at home (again, may mean nothing). Vegas has CLE favored by 4.5 with an O/U of 41.5 so game flow is predicted to be in his favor. I also ended up watching some film of Taliaferro who faced off against OAK last week, he had no problem gashing them on the few runs he was given (7/34/1). Forsett didn't do too bad himself (15/68/0) but I feel Taliaferro is a better comp. I think crow could have a very similar game to the one he had vs. TEN last week and I think it puts him squarely on RB2/flex radar. What I really want to see is him touch the ball 20 times a game but that just isn't going to happen with Duke around, even if Duke was much more ineffective last week.
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I don't need to watch him play to know he sucks (I own Duke).
Rimez
Footballguy
if there was ever a time to play him its this week. west coast team with a middling defense coming off a big win into playing an early game out east. im flexing crow with confidence for the first time in two seasons.
whats alarming is the lack of players helping him up, aside from 77 going out of his way a few times everyone else just walks away. i wonder how many teammates went to his birthday party...
amnesiac
beer is good
nice
thecardiackid
Footballguy
thx for that, especially for those of us w/o the ticket.
some observations.
the 4th qtr sweep to the left gives me some hope.
mack was getting tossed around like a rag doll on several plays
Thomas is a beast
surprised to see crow lined up at FB in a few sets
I liked the general LOS vs. TN
crow looks the part. now he just needs to break a couple long runs (Benjamin's downfield blocking is not good)
starting him at rb2 over d martin w/ woodhead at flex in a 14 teamer.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
:crowscreech:
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Coach3K
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thecardiackid
Footballguy
how does he have 20 yards in the half w/ that (almost great td) run of about 15?
unfortunate he couldn't convert from the 1.
unfortunate he couldn't convert from the 1.
saintfool
Dead sexy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I'm sure there will be plenty of valid excuses in the thread this week. There always are with Crowell.
